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Originally published October 25, 2008 at 08:00a.m., updated October 25, 2008 at 05:22p.m.

FINAL: Texas Tech racks up 559 yards of offense in 63-21 victory

Kansas defensive lineman Darius Parish swipes for Texas Tech's Shannon Woods on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2008 at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas defensive lineman Darius Parish swipes for Texas Tech's Shannon Woods on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2008 at Memorial Stadium.

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KU falls to Red Raiders, 63-21

The Jayhawks were one-point favorites going into Saturday's game against Texas Tech, but that certainly wasn't the case by the end.

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2008 KU-Texas Tech football

Reader poll

After KU's loss to Texas Tech, how would you describe your level of concern for next week's game against Kansas State?

  • Extremely concerned 40% 621 votes
  • Somewhat concerned 32% 498 votes
  • Not Sure 6% 107 votes
  • Somewhat confident 12% 198 votes
  • Extremely confident 6% 105 votes

1529 total votes.

Reader poll

Will KU defeat Texas Tech on Saturday?

  • Yes 70% 273 votes
  • No 29% 114 votes

387 total votes.

5:20 p.m.

Some notes from Tech's 63-21 victory over KU.

¢ Texas Tech has won 10 conference games in a row dating back to last season. That's a Big 12 record.

¢ Tech is now 10-1 all-time against KU.

¢ Kansas had its 13-game home winning streak snapped. The streak was the fourth-longest home winning streak coming into today.

¢ KU rushed for 162 yards, its highest total all season.

¢ Reesing threw three interceptions for only the second time in his career. He also had three picks last year against Kansas State.

¢ Reesing only had 154 yards passing, breaking a streak of 12 consecutive games with at least 200 yards passing.

¢ Jocques Crawford rushed for 44 yards on 10 carries, his highest rushing output of the season.

¢ James Holt matched a season-high with 13 tackles.

¢ KU lost back-to-back games for the first time since October of 2006.

¢ On his first pass of the game, Graham Harrell moved into fourth place on the NCAA's career passing yards list. He moved past N.C. State's Philip Rivers, who had 13,484 passing yards in his career.

3:53 p.m.

The postgame audio has been posted on the left side of this page. Included in there is Mangino's most telling quote: "Here's the reality of it: We got a good, old-fashioned butt-whooping today, and we know that."

FINAL: Texas Tech wins 63-21.

Texas Tech scored touchdowns on eight of its first nine possessions to take control in a 63-21 victory over Kansas on Saturday at Memorial Stadium.

Graham Harrell finished 34 of 42 for 386 yards and five touchdowns. He also added a rushing touchdown as Tech's offense overpowered KU's defense.

Michael Crabtree added nine catches for 70 yards with two touchdowns, as the Red Raiders improved to 8-0, 4-0 in the Big 12.

Tech led 35-14 at half, and at one point scored 49 straight points.

Todd Reesing had one of his worst games as a Jayhawk, completing 16 of 26 passes for 154 yards with three interceptions. He also threw two TD passes.

Jake Sharp led KU's rushers, carrying the ball 13 times for 80 yards.

KU (5-3, 2-2 Big 12) will play host to Kansas State next week.

FINAL: Texas Tech wins 63-21.

Daymond Patterson fumbles a punt, and Texas Tech recovers. Luckily for KU, Russell Brorsen recovered a Tech fumble on the ensuing possession to keep the Red Raiders under 70 points.

3:52 left in fourth quarter, Texas Tech leads 63-21.

Jocques Crawford tacks on a 1-yard TD run. Texas Tech had scored the previous 49 points.

11:12 left in fourth quarter, Texas Tech leads 63-14.

Backup quarterback Taylor Potts picks up where Harrell left off, taking Tech down the field 45 yards in five plays. He tacks on a 10-yard touchdown pass to Adam James, and, suddenly, the Red Raiders are tantalizingly close to 70 points.

14:55 left in fourth quarter, Texas Tech leads 56-14.

Leach elects for the field goal, and Donnie Carona pushes the 43-yard attempt wide left. Finally, a legitimate stop for KU's defense.

End of third quarter, Texas Tech leads 56-14.

A positive for KU: Jamal Greene and James Holt both pick up sacks for KU's defense. Harrell, before that, had been sacked just once all year. The Red Raiders will face a fourth-and-20 from the KU 26, and knowing coach Mike Leach, I bet they go for it.

2:00 left in third quarter, Texas Tech leads 56-14.

McBath gets his third interception of the game, picking off Reesing deep in KU territory. The Jayhawks' offense won't have much ground to stand on after this game, either.

2:42 left in third quarter, Texas Tech leads 56-14.

Woods scores again from one yard out. Tech has eight TDs in nine possessions, and the one time the Red Raiders didn't score, they only had 31 seconds left to work with in the first half.

4:17 left in third quarter, Texas Tech leads 49-14.

McBath picks off another pass from Reesing. This one might just get uglier.

5:05 left in third quarter, Texas Tech leads 49-14.

One play sums up the whole day for KU's defense. On a third-and-goal from the 16-yard-line, Tech opts for a screen pass to Crabtree. He proceeds to break at least four tackles over the middle, racing into the end zone for the seventh Tech TD. The boos start to stream down from the fans with more than 20 minutes left in this game.

8:23 left in third quarter, Texas Tech leads 42-14.

Reesing throws an interception on KU's first play, as Darcel McBath steps in front of a pass to give the Red Raiders the ball at the KU 43.

8:23 left in third quarter, Texas Tech leads 42-14.

No halftime adjustments here. Tech makes it look easy once again on its first possession of the second half, going 80 yards on 13 plays for the score. Harrell sneaks in from one yard out for the TD, and some fans are starting to make their way to the exits.

HALFTIME STATISTICS

Kansas

Passing

Todd Reesing 13-for-16, 136 yards, 2 TDs

Rushing

Jake Sharp 10 carries, 62 yards

Receiving

Dezmon Briscoe 6 catches, 42 yards, TD

Kerry Meier 5 catches, 65 yards, TD

Texas Tech

Passing

Graham Harrell 22-for-26, 247 yards, 4 TDs

Rushing

Baron Batch 4 carries, 37 yards

Shannon Woods 5 carries, 35 yards, TD

Receiving

Eric Morris 6 catches, 38 yards, 2 TDs

Detron Lewis 4 catches, 31 yards

Michael Crabtree 4 catches, 23 yards, TD

Baron Batch 3 carries, 71 yards

Halftime, Texas Tech leads 35-14.

KU has to punt after a costly chop block penalty. With just 31 seconds left, Tech stays conservative after a 15-yard penalty of its own. The Jayhawks go into the locker room down three touchdowns.

2:15 left in second quarter, Texas Tech leads 35-14.

That didn't take long. In five plays, Tech goes 38 yards, capped by a 10-yard touchdown reception by Eric Morris. This has to be one of the worst first-half defensive performances in KU's history.

4:40 left in second quarter, Texas Tech leads 28-14.

Disaster for the KU offense, as a Brandon Williams' sack forces a Reesing fumble. McKinner Dixon recovers, and KU is on the verge of getting taken out of this game in the first half.

5:55 left in second quarter, Texas Tech leads 28-14.

Slowly but surely, Texas Tech put together its fourth touchdown drive in four possessions, as Shannon Woods ran in the touchdown from three yards out. KU has been blitzing nearly every down, but Harrell has consistently found his open receiver to avoid the sack and pick up positive yardage. At least KU forced three third downs on the drive. I guess that's a start.

11:48 left in second quarter, Texas Tech leads 21-14.

KU abandons the running game and pays a dear price. After two incompletions, Reesing is sacked by McKinner Dixon, and the Jayhawks are forced to punt. Seems strange to not run it at least once, at least to give the defense a little rest. Instead, a fatigued KU defense will go back on the field against a Tech offense it hasn't even been able to slow down.

12:58 left in second quarter, Texas Tech leads 21-14.

The game is starting to resemble that video game you used to play where every receiver was wide open, no matter where you threw it. Harrell continues to move the Tech offense at ease, going 69 yards and ending the drive with a 7-yard TD pass to Eric Morris.

The key play came on a third-and-7 early, as Corrigan Powell was whistled for pass interference. Perhaps a freshman mistake for Powell, who could have waited for the receiver to make the catch and still made a sure tackle to keep him short of the first down. Instead, the penalty resulted in an automatic first down, and the Red Raiders rolled from there.

End of first quarter, game tied 14-14.

Quick chant update: The new "Kayyyyyy Youuuuuuu!" chant has been loud, but quite a few rebels have continued the controversial "Rip his head off" chant. I'm sure this battle will continue the rest of the season.

1:09 left in first quarter, game tied 14-14.

The Jayhawks are answering the Red Raiders blow for blow. Reesing takes KU 72 yards on nine plays, completing the drive with a 10-yard touchdown strike to Dezmon Briscoe.

Perhaps most importantly, KU's offensive line has played well so far. Sharp has had big holes both in the middle and on the right side. Center Ryan Cantrell, right guard Chet Hartley and right tackle Jeff Spikes are having perhaps their best game run blocking, and we've only played 14 minutes.

5:54 left in first quarter, Texas Tech leads 14-7.

KU gambled on a third-down blitz, and Texas Tech's offensive line showed why it's one of the best in the conference. The unit gave Harrell plenty of time, and he found Michael Crabtree over the middle for a four-yard touchdown. Fan-turned-kicker Matt Williams knocked through the extra point for the Red Raiders.

6:08 left in first quarter, game tied 7-7.

It's early, and already we are seeing some crazy switches from Mangino with his defense.

Chris Harris has moved from corner to safety, and Justin Thornton has switched from safety to corner. Also, Daymond Patterson has been playing some at corner.

It hasn't helped so far. Tech carves up KU's defense, getting four 10-plus yard plays to move the ball quickly inside the KU 5.

8:58 left in first quarter, game tied 7-7.

KU sees exactly how much the offense opens up with a strong rushing game. Because of Jake Sharp's early success, a play-action pass works beautifully, and Todd Reesing finds a wide-open Kerry Meier for a 33-yard touchdown. Jacob Branstetter's point-after ties it up.

10:06 left in first quarter, Texas Tech leads 7-0

Does it seem to anyone else like KU's offense always plays better when it gets down? After falling behind, the Jayhawks' offense looks much more in sync, moving the ball into Texas Tech territory at the 44.

12:46 left in first quarter, Texas Tech leads 7-0

Just like that, Texas Tech is up a touchdown. On the second play from scrimmage, Graham Harrell finds Edward Britton deep down the middle for a 55-yard score. This Red Raiders' passing offense has been as good as any in the nation, and they've shown it here already. Meanwhile, KU still is having major issues in the secondary.

13:27 left in first quarter, game tied 0-0

A quick three-and-out for KU's offense to start. As good as the Jayhawks' offense has been, they have had a high number three-and-outs this year.

10:54 a.m.

Just had a flyover after the National Anthem, and we're about ready to go here at Memorial Stadium.

Let's set the scene at Memorial. Still quite a few open spaces, as the early start time has meant quite a few are still straggling in from the parking lots.

Texas Tech has about two sections of fan representation on my extreme right, but other than that, the bowl is a sea of blue.

We have sunny skies here, and it's starting to warm up. Now, it's 51 degrees, with winds out of the west-southwest at 7 miles per hour. It was a bit chilly earlier, but once again, the weather shouldn't play much of a role here today.

10:24 a.m.

Kansas has come out in its red uniforms for this ESPN game. Mark Mangino's teams are 6-0 in red.

8:00 a.m.

Greetings, and welcome to the before dawn version of The Newell Post Live.

Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan and I will be doing our second "Spodcasters: Live" at 8:30 a.m., this time at The Eleventh and Mississippi (TEAM) tailgate, so make sure to check back online for that to be posted. Those interested in hosting a live podcast at their tailgate can shoot me an e-mail at jnewell@ljworld.com.

This podcast also is where you can listen for the first mystery player in our ticket giveaway. For more details, click on the link.

Let's get right into our weekly true-false, fill-in-the-blank questions. Post your score predictions below.

True or false: Graham Harrell will throw for 400 yards against KU.

True. Consider this: If Graham Harrell throws for 400 yards against KU today, it would only be his fifth-best passing performance of the year (in eight games). I still don't understand why this guy isn't getting more Heisman consideration. Yes, he runs a wide-open, pass-happy offense. But Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford do as well. Harrell will get his chance to shine over the next four weeks against KU, Texas, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma. I predicted 400 passing yards last week for Sam Bradford, and Harrell should make it two weeks in a row. There are no magic fixes for the Jayhawks' struggles on defensive line and in the secondary, and they should be exposed once again by Harrell.

True or false: Dezmon Briscoe and Kerry Meier will both have 100 yards receiving.

True. After his team's loss to Oklahoma, Kansas coach Mark Mangino talked about how, after his team fell behind, he felt the need to play catch-up and throw the ball often. I think the coach knows from the outset of this one, he's going to have to win a shootout to beat the Red Raiders. Tech has had problems in the secondary, and Dezmon Briscoe broke out with the nation's best receiving day (12 catches, 269 yards) last week against Oklahoma. Call it a gut feeling, but I think Kerry Meier also will bounce back to have a big game. The Jayhawks need him healthy and producing to hang with the big guns in the Big 12.

True or false: Kansas will get one sack or more against Texas Tech.

False. Graham Harrell has been sacked a whopping one time this year. That's it. His offensive line has been nearly flawless this, and those guys have some great nicknames like "Fat Albert," "Kool-Aid" and "Superhero Indian" to boot. The Jayhawks did not record a sack in 97 plays last week against OU, and I expect their struggles on the defensive line will continue.

If KU wins, it will be because :

its defense finds a way to force turnovers . Texas Tech's offense is better than Oklahoma's, and that should be a scary thought for KU. The Red Raiders did not punt until the fourth quarter last week, and really, it's hard to stop them from getting 10 yards on three consecutive plays (the aggressive Mike Leach also isn't afraid to go for it on fourth down). Tech also was 10-for-12 on third-down conversions against Texas A&M. The Red Raiders' weakness, though, has been turnovers and penalties. When Harrell is pressured, he tends to make bad decisions, but then again he's not hurried often. An early turnover would do wonders for the confidence of KU's defense after being picked apart last week.

If Texas Tech wins, it will be because :

it forces KU's offense into three-and-outs. The Jayhawks offense has been good this year, but it has also been streaky. KU tends to either score quickly or give up the ball quickly, and that hasn't been a good formula for the Jayhawks' exhausted defensive players. If the Red Raiders can get a few three-and-outs, it's a good bet that their high-powered offense will be able to convert that into touchdowns on the ensuing possessions. Call it transition offense for Texas Tech. A couple of those would probably be more than KU could overcome.

Prediction: Texas Tech 49, Kansas 41

Here's why the Red Raiders are more dangerous this year than in years past: They can score quickly or they can take their time scoring and control the clock (running back Baron Batch is averaging 7.6 yards per carry). Though their points have been down the last two games, it's only because they've been holding onto the ball longer. Their offense has still been stellar, and unfortunately for Mangino, there's no pixie dust that will magically make his pass defense better in one week. Expect Tech's offense to be too much in this one, and though the Memorial Stadium crowd will help, it won't be enough to keep Harrell from yet another big passing day.

Comments

stupidmichael (anonymous) says...

I agree with you on all of your predictions except the prediction.Kansas will find a way to win this game. Guarantee.I need some coffee...

October 25, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Teapot9 (anonymous) says...

Kansas 35Texas Tech 21Bet the mortgage on the Jayhawks (-1)!!!

October 25, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

1. False2. False3. TrueKU 44TT 38btw - Red unis today...

October 25, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Additional prediction:The team with more rusing yards will win this game.

October 25, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

nnelson (Nick Nelson) says...

Kirk Herbstreet, Lee Corso and Lebron James (yes, Lebron James) all just picked Texas Tech...it's go time.

October 25, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Well, our poor coverage eliminates the need for any missed tackles -7-0 Tech

October 25, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

adamjhwkfan (anonymous) says...

jesus crist stay back safetieshow many times do you have go get beat!

October 25, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

um, well, that sucked....2nd play of the game and our secondary already exposed.

October 25, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Did KU come to play today? Lousy.

October 25, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

KGphoto (anonymous) says...

I'll tell you what you can do with that swing pass!!

October 25, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

Kerry Meier for a TD! Love that kid...

October 25, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

That timeout was worth it - 7-7

October 25, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

adamjhwkfan (anonymous) says...

We need a new Def Coord.

October 25, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

nnelson (Nick Nelson) says...

Mike Rivera = POW right in the kisser.

October 25, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

adamjhwkfan (anonymous) says...

Check the receivers at the line.. what is this HS defense?

October 25, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Fire Bowen. Now.

October 25, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Aqib Talib, where are you?

October 25, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Big 12 referees - a tradition of excellence since .....well, never.

October 25, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

mariochalmersfan15 (anonymous) says...

game tied 14-14!!!! go hawks

October 25, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Teapot9 (anonymous) says...

no more red jerseys

October 25, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

adamjhwkfan (anonymous) says...

no more defense

October 25, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cshjhawk (anonymous) says...

is harper playing?

October 25, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Fire Bowen. NOW!!!!!!

October 25, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

DueFan (anonymous) says...

We have a sorry D. With Sorry Ds you can't win big games.

October 25, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

no doubt adam - almost 700 yards given up last week and dare I say (gasp) even more possible this week? 300 yards given up in the 1st frickin quarter alone.a little karma for the officials perhaps?

October 25, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

estaboy (anonymous) says...

Wow. I mean I know their offensive is good, but still, is our D really this bad? What a joke.

October 25, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

FlaHawk (anonymous) says...

Coach Bowen has them where he wants them. Less then 20 minutes into game and Harrell hasgot over 200 yards passing and 3 TDs.KU defense is giving up 15 yards per play and the tackling in the secondary is fundamental unsound. Coach Bowen does not have a clue.

October 25, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

I hope the ankle injury doesn't affect the official's day job as a Walmart greeter....

October 25, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

estaboy (anonymous) says...

How did the ref overrule that call? He wasnt in position to see it, was he?

October 25, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mariochalmersfan15 (anonymous) says...

our d needs to step up their game!!!!!

October 25, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DueFan (anonymous) says...

They are running all over our defense like kids playing in the park. T-Tech's QB is overrated. It's all in his great and tough O-line, if you are able to take that much time in throwing your ball and studying your wide outs, you will make good throws.

October 25, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Fire Bowen. The KU defense couldn't stop Tabor or Baker U, and I seriously doubt they could stop a team of 90 year old invalids, especially if the invalids were in a spread offense!

October 25, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

We need to max blitz every play, and overload one side of the line. With the spread of their OL, we ought to be able to get some hits on Harrell, maybe knock him out.

October 25, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mariochalmersfan15 (anonymous) says...

Now It Is 28-14!! You Have To Step Up Your Game Before It's Too Late!!!!!

October 25, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

FlaHawk (anonymous) says...

It is n is not getting it done. Harrell it is not the problem for KU. Te KU defense makes almost anyone a 400-500 yards a game . Coach Bowen has no answers. I wonder what Coach Young would have done?

October 25, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Teapot9 (anonymous) says...

Tech's offense isnt going to make any mistakes. This game is OVER!

October 25, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

This reminds me of the KU - Nebraska game last year...only this year we're on the receiving end of the onslaught. This is getting ugly.

October 25, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

KU football is done! they aren't playing aggressively, the fans aren't into the game, its over! Lame excuse for home field advantage! Forget it,its over!

October 25, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

poor play calling by both Offensive and Defensive coordinators. KU is done, its over. we might win 7, I thought so much better of the KU fans! THey are sucking it up today! bad! national tv! bad! You should be ashamed of yourselves!

October 25, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

its homecoming dammit!

October 25, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

apeoples410 (anonymous) says...

absolutely brutal. 5 possessions/5 TDs

October 25, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Fire Bowen.Hey, the old band uniforms look good.

October 25, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

FlaHawk (anonymous) says...

KU D is stepping it up! TTech is down to 9.1 yards a play. and qo far TTech has only 300+ yards. Bowen is reacting :-)!OH it is 14-35 do I sme;; 28-70 game or more?

October 25, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

With this "defense" under Bowen, KU should cancel the NU, KSU, Texas, and MU games and schedule instead Tabor U, Baker U, St. Mary's of the Plains College, and McPherson College if KU wants to win any further games this year.

October 25, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

These fans should be ashamed, Not even out the gates were they into the game. Just embarrassing as a fan that isn't there! I've been there, and you can do 10000000000000000000x better than this!

October 25, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

irish2255 (anonymous) says...

Sadly, I would almost guarantee TT scores in these 31 seconds

October 25, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

this isn't TT playing well, its our Defense sucking real bad!

October 25, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Teapot9 (anonymous) says...

texas tech was stopped......by the clock....

October 25, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

Kansas should be embarrassed. Bad play, bad support by the fans! Bad all around! get your crap together!

October 25, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

I'm really mad as a fan at the fans at this game! you suck!

October 25, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

jayhawkintx73 - we get your point. settle down now...

October 25, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

This is the worst performance I've seen by a sell out crowd in history! You have to get LOUD and you have to get real loud! Not just the student section, but the fans on the other side of the stadium too!

October 25, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Hey, all, shall we take bets as to how many minutes before the end of this game the stadium begins to empty, with the faithful heading home, convinced they just witnessed the worst NCAA Div 1 defense on the planet? If I was Bowen, I would not go to the KU locker room, but to the football offices and begin packing. The ESPN pundits are trying to keep from laughing when discussing KU "football" at halftime. Mark May is having a field day at KU's expense - and regrettably it's deserved.

October 25, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cffighter86 (anonymous) says...

this is ugly...i miss our Defensive Coordinator from last year, the defense was alot more intense and fired up, this year they just look uninspired like they dont give a crap. Jayhawkintx..sorry to burst your bubble but Tech's offense is freaken awesome...calling all the fans a joke and an embarassment and calling the team an embarassment...no my friend you are the embarassment if you really consider yourself a fan

October 25, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

Ok, you get my point, now get mad along with me! We're all Jayhawks! and You should be mad too! If you're not, then maybe the Mizzou fans that saw we are fair weather fans are right!

October 25, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

I am a fan, and I've been to the games in Lawrence before. YOu can't sit around and wait for you offense to score. You have to make it harder for theirs to score! get loud! What is the point of home field advantage if you sit on your laurels waiting for Todd Reesing to throw a TD pass! It doesn't help win the game!

October 25, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DalTXJayhawk (anonymous) says...

OU 28 -- KSU 21 Now even ksu scares me

October 25, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

nnelson (Nick Nelson) says...

jayhawkin - Are you at the game?

October 25, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

Also, see that "Suggest Removal" button up there? If you don't like me telling it how it is, see if they will remove my posts! Because I'm not being inappropriate!

October 25, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

No, I'm not at the game today, see the tx in my user name? What do you think that means? TEXAS! I call it how it is. You don't have to like it.

October 25, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Is 73 your birth year or IQ?

October 25, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

Nice, real mature statement there!

October 25, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Teapot9 (anonymous) says...

Ladies ladies, lets stop all this bickering!

October 25, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

nnelson (Nick Nelson) says...

Thought you might be there on a cell phone or something. Wasn't sure how you came to the conclusion that the fans are lackluster.

October 25, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

listen to those fans Scream!

October 25, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

KGphoto (anonymous) says...

I was wrong before. A former KU player told me he thought Bowen was weak. He played with him, he should know.He was right, I was wrong. Bowen must go. When you return almost all of the talent and produce a shadow of last year's defense, the coaching change is the only suspect. Sorry Clint. You're the weak link.No stops, no turnovers, no pressure. It looks like we're handing it to them. Show some backbone man! Blitz or something! Seriously, we're the only defense in the league without a single strong point. We need to start blitzing on every single play, damn the long threat.It looks like our defense is playing flag football.

October 25, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

the Texas Tech fans have drowned our sell out crowd out since the opening kick off!

October 25, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

Colt McCoy has an 81% completion percentage. We'll be down by 50 at the half against them!

October 25, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Fire Bowen.

October 25, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Can't remember if I said it or not: Fire Bowen.

October 25, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

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October 25, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. ( | )

lama (anonymous) says...

Bowen needs to go. He's overmatched.

October 25, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

still wondering why we totally abandoned the running game in the 2nd Q. Sharp was having some success and plus it gives the D a chance to rest. same thing last week in Norman. I just dont get it.

October 25, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

capnwacky (anonymous) says...

This is just awful.

October 25, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

The fans showed up for the game but the team forgot to...Texas Tech is a joke, maybe they should try to play real football instead of this dumb.... Arena League offense. I think these two announcers are dating Harrell and Crabtree as well.

October 25, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

nice tackling...

October 25, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ibrown3 (anonymous) says...

Goodbye KU football. 7-5 at best. Anyone who ever thought KU would go 9-3 or better at any point in this season was absolutely nuts. I'm ready for some KU basketball. Last years KU football team was a fluke. It's a wonder what an easy schedule does for a team. But anyway. As I said--time to concentrate on another exciting KU basketball team.

October 25, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

Crabtree broke like 5 tackles in a matter of 10 yards. brutal...

October 25, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mariochalmersfan15 (anonymous) says...

its 49-14 i don't think were going to pull this one out

October 25, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

Last year was not a fluke and KU football is still good but we aren't USC, LSU or Ohio State we can't expect every year to be like last year but we certainly can and should expect more consistency.

October 25, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

KanFan27 (anonymous) says...

Is anyone else laughing their A** off when they see that ranking by KU's name. I crack up every time I see it. This team is terrible. Its not even our players either. We have good players we proved it last year but this year something changed with our play calling. Mangino is not the worlds greatest coach is is not even a great coach period he is a decent hard working coach with some sub par athletes and this is and I could see actually being a 5-7 team. Last year was a flash in the pan miracle that probably wont happen again for a long long time if ever. We dont have vocal leaders or good inspiring coaches. Our defense is gone after this year and I dont know, with how bad they are it might be good to try some other people but for the most part I see this team as being a god awful team and we are only going to get worse next year, and say good bye to the good recruiting that we have seen. That will die down, and say hello to traditional bad KU football as everyone now turns and says... "Well how is the basketball team looking this year"

October 25, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

It looks like a sheer lack of effort by KU. I'm stupified. Amazing. Bowen looks totally confused. I thought for some time KU is a 7-5 team. Now I must say it looks like 6-6, maybe even 5-6. I don't see KU even in the game with Texas or MU, and I don't necessarily seeing them beating NU, and maybe not even KSU. The KSU game could well determine if the Jayhawks go to a bowl.

October 25, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

TaCityHawkFan (anonymous) says...

This is terrible... where is our defense... hell where is our offense. TT is not this good! And THAT makes us look bad! I knew they would score points but we are making them look like they have the best defense in the nation along with an offense that would torch the Cheifs (I know they are horrible... but they are professionals... well some of them).We cannot slip up against KState or Neb... and have got to pull something off against MU or Texas

October 25, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DalTXJayhawk (anonymous) says...

They are not trying to go deep. Having too much success with the 5-15 yd passes. Must get out of that zone. With 4-6 seconds to pass, even I could complete those passes

October 25, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DalTXJayhawk (anonymous) says...

Now they are rubbing it in. Crabtree laughing at us on the sideline, going for it on 4th down...

October 25, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DalTXJayhawk (anonymous) says...

Get away from the exits -- you will be trampled....

October 25, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

KanFan27 your an idiot if you don't think Mark Mangino is a good coach. The football program doesn't need fair weather fans like you who only show up and cheer when we win and pretend you don't care about anything but basketball when we lose.

October 25, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rockchalk_dpu (anonymous) says...

This is embarrassing for our team, offense and defense. We look like we don't know what we are doing out there.On top of that, I cannot believe that 1) Leech left Harrell in the game and 2) that he is still taking shots down field and scoring. The margin of victory was removed from the BCS rankings, so you can't make the argument that they are trying to "look pretty" for the computer. I am not one to advocate intentionally hitting players, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some KU players take shots at Harrell if this continues.Fire Bowen and bring in someone who can manage a defense and bring pressure on quarterbacks. This is 2 straight weeks where we have given a team 4-5 seconds to find receivers and make plays. Absolutely embarrassing.RCJ

October 25, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

flouis (anonymous) says...

I'm sorry, but Clint Bowen's job should be on the hot seat. He has not been able to prepare his defense for ONE decent opponent this year. They need to re-evaluate the defensive cordinator's position. Guys don't even have the fundamentals down.

October 25, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Bowen must go. Call U-Haul on his behalf.

October 25, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

New Flash: Bowen is not the one playing!

October 25, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DalTXJayhawk (anonymous) says...

UGLY --- Now showing how the fb team outscored the TT basketball team against kansas

October 25, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

DalTXJayhawk (anonymous) says...

Now ESPN is making fun of our fans. They just interviewed people that left early.

October 25, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

flouis (anonymous) says...

Treidy, he isn't playing, but it is his job to prepare the kids that are playing. He's getting paid six figures to teach and instruct these kids. Yes, the kids may not be as athletic as other programs, but being prepared and having the proper schemes can help level the playing grounds. Last year was a great example. Look at the Orange Bowl. I was there, VaTech had better athletes, but we were prepared.

October 25, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ibrown3 (anonymous) says...

treidy, you're an idiot if you think this group of guys standing on the football field wearing crimson and blue is a good football team. Good football teams don't get demolished by over 40 points on their home field. Sure, there are some good players and athletes on this team, but I'll be damned if I'm giong to sit here and say this is a "good" football team. I'm not a fair weather fan, i'm a realistic fan. As a few of my fellow bloggers have noted, this team could very well go 5-6 or 6-6. This season is over. I'm ready to see what Tyshawn Taylor, Travis Releford, the Twins, our Juco transfers, and the "Vets" Sherron Collins and Cole Aldrich can put together on the basketball court.

October 25, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rockchalk_dpu (anonymous) says...

This is embarrassing. They got their lackey roaming the stands to go down The Hill and interview people leaving. The hicks that he interviewed said, "Basketball season can't start soon enough." Good to know that we have a lot of support from our fans. Go support KSUck if you are act this sort of way.

October 25, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

flouis (anonymous) says...

The fans should keep their mouths shut about basketball season. It makes us look like a bunch of a**holes. Just keep your mouth shut and say, "No Comment."

October 25, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Whatever happened to Angus?

October 25, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

I am not an idiot nor am I a fair weather fan like most people on this board. I realize that we are under talented and that it is Bowen's job to get the players ready for the game but I am also realistic unlike most delusional KU fan's who think that because we had an awesome year last year we were entitled to it again this year. Furthermore, I am not like most KU fans who find it cute when our football team sucks and just laugh it off and say "when does basketball start." I support our football program no matter what and I support our basketball program no matter what but guess what: it is still football season and even if we are being embarrassed today and aren't playing well and being out coached, I am not going to start pissing and moaning and whining when does basketball season and start calling for peoples heads. Grow up and support the Jayhawks in all sports, no matter what!

October 25, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

I hope we come back strong against KState or we may not be bowling this year.

October 25, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

flouis (anonymous) says...

I agree that we should support the football team. I am an avid supporter as I am sure most of the people on this message board are, their posting because their upset/care. However, I am going to have to disagree with you on the coaching. You have to remember that this is their job. Do you think the owner of your company would allow you to come into work if you consistently did not produce or couldn't handle presentations, no. You get paid because you do a good job and help your company succeed.

October 25, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

FlaHawk (anonymous) says...

Getting whipped by OU and TTech is not a good recrruiting tool. Can you image what UT will do especially after remembering Mangino's referee outburst in 2005. Could UT get 50 in first period?

October 25, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

This tool walking the sidelines is just making a mockery out of us- I bet KU basketball fans don't mind though-interviewing people leaving, talking about TT players taunting our fans, sitting in those stupid "luxury" seats, promoting the bowling crap he is doing tomorrow.....

October 25, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

flouis, I agree with you on the coaching situation but at the same time what good would it do to can a guy now? Look at Auburn and their Offensive Coordinator or Clemson and Bowden. Firing a guy mid-season or even only after one season does not help the situation because the program and the players do need some consistency. I do also understand it is a job and they also have goals they are expected to meet. It is a shame that Mangino and Perkins didn't do enough to keep Young here because it is going to hurt us for a long time. During the bad years under Mangino the one consistent thing was our smash mouth D.

October 25, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

irish2255 (anonymous) says...

Happy Homecoming!! That was BRUTAL

October 25, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

The fat rears in the luxury seats at the south end of the stadium were some of the first to exit. Guess they ran out of wine and cheese. Why have these absurd fat cat seats in the stadium anyway? Who cares to watch a bunch of airheads with fat wallets and fatter egos show off their bloated heads?The old band uniforms look great.Bowen must go. Worst looking defense in Div 1.

October 25, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

King_Kaun (anonymous) says...

Good news everyone!! If you take the KU score times three then the game would be tied!!!

October 25, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

FlaHawk (anonymous) says...

The problem with KU football is last year. KU deserved to have posted a 9-4 record. Everything went right, KU did not play TTech, OU or UT.This year team underperformed, coaches got big raises and the team (coaches and players) got SOFT. Only Meier is having a better season than last.We forget that KU football was a fluke last year. The defensive lapses remind one of 2005 and 2006. KU is a solid 7-5 team if you give them 3 NCAA I-A teams a year.7-5 is bowl eligible. KU will be eating a lot of humble pie. In reality, KU football was an illusion and 7-5 is much better than the old 3-8 off yesterday.

October 25, 2008 at 2:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

flouis (anonymous) says...

Treidy, I like your analysis and do not want him canned now but I do want there to be some discussion so he can understand the implications of his actions. Bowen needs to feel the pressure and re-evaluate the situation and possibly take a different approach.On the other comment, I wish someone would have made fun of the sideline announcer. Just to shut him up, he was being extremely insulting to KU. Some one should have made a statement discussing the fact he was going to be covering the PBA and that he must be big time. He's an a**hole.

October 25, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

treidy (anonymous) says...

Flouis I was thinking the same think about the bowling. Time to regroup everyone (players, coaches and fans). We have lowly KState coming to town next week and we really can't afford any mistakes this point forward.

October 25, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

FlaHawk...I don't think this year's team has underperformed one bit. At the beginning of the season I had them pegged to go 6-6, 7-5 at best.Like you said, if you throw out last season with the weak schedule, this is just like most other years...struggling to get to a bowl game.Most everyone was so hyped from last season that unreasonable expectations were put on the team by the fans.

October 25, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

milwaukeeJAYHAWK (anonymous) says...

i agree, kc_wildfire. i thought we'd be about 7-5, myself. i'm just glad we've made improvements from the terry allen 2-10 era. and yeah, we can't expect to be 12-1 every year, that was just one of those years. i think we can reasonably expect a bowl game each year, and maybe after a few years of bowls we can build our program to a better level. ain't gonna happen overnight.....

October 25, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

yankeevet (anonymous) says...

KU Football had an easy schedule last year; and now this year they are playing real teams; however todays game was just awful.. Where was the defense at; Reese and Briscoe cannot do it all by theirselves. Whoever is the KU Defense coach he should leave; this was really bad. KU was surrounded by Texans and eliminated thus so.

October 25, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

FlaHawk,Excellent commentary. Spot on. KU football is a very average Div 1 program, even after the improvement under Mangino; and a lower 1/3 Big 12 program, whether we like it or not. I fully expect NU to return to a Big 12 power, and CU to be more of a force than the past recent years. That does not bide well for KU. Plus, let's admit it, our fans are 'fair weather' and borderline delusional - they will flee in droves when realizing KU's football bubble has burst. Too bad, really. Sad.

October 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jhwkfan162515 (anonymous) says...

All I can say is, I'm glad that all I heard of the game was the first quarter. I was at a wedding for the rest of the time. Good thing I didn't miss anything...

October 25, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

HowMuchRice (anonymous) says...

Fire Clint Bowen after 8 games. You guys never cease to amaze me.Of course, if we would have listened to the KUSports comments section, we would've fired Mangino after the opening drive of last year's K-State game (look it up, someone called for his head after Reesing was picked.) This constant knee-jerk reaction is the reason why every one of you are a joke and can't be taken seriously.Open your eyes: The Big 12 offenses are way, way, way ahead of the Big 12 defenses. All 12 defensive coordinators in this conference should be fired by your guys' idiotic logic.

October 25, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

yates33333 (anonymous) says...

Relax. Basketball starts soon. When KU becomes a consistent football power pigs will fly. Note: consistent.

October 25, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

oceanvger55 (anonymous) says...

Excuse me, whose letting these losers on heard to hack at us, JW u should be ashamed! One bad game like this is just an awakening to a avg D, KU will be back their a good team. Lost some great players from last year, but soon these guys will get better. JW u need to check these trashmouths bums (IDs) who say their KU fans obviously you've been had. rock chalk jayhawks kill the kitties!

October 25, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

biggunz (anonymous) says...

I hate to say it but basketball season this year isn't gonna bring a whole lot of relief. We got a young, young, team.

October 25, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

eastland (anonymous) says...

It's not about bashing the squad. I've had season tix for 9 years now, so I've been through some bad seasons. The fact is, we are a mediocre team. If we make it to the MU game with 7 wins and somehow pull of that upset to finish 8-4, I will be ecstatic. We could just as easily go 6-6 and I wouldn't be surprised.

October 25, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

oceaanvger55, our defense sucks and it is because we try to rush 4 to get pressure on the QB while playing a zone defense, and that is clint bowen's failure! Not the Players failure. They have to play what they are told to play. THese guys aren't being allowed to use their strengths. We're supposed to have a top notch LInebacker Core. If you don't use them to put pressure on the QB, and use them to cover WRs and Runningbacks? this is not high school football any more! Wake up! Kansas wants to be in the top 15 or 20 every year, you can't lose to TExas Tech by 42 at your own home coming. And the Fans were pathetic today as well. Flat out spoiled thinking they only need to cheer when Todd Reesing gets a Number One play on ESPN!

October 25, 2008 at 5 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

oceanvger55 (anonymous) says...

DOnt be foolish kintx, we know about all the injuries we know we have a first year coord, no one saying its just the players, but the embrassment is good for them not bad. and why the f__ are u talking to me, your anguish has nothing to do with me so keep your finger pointed in your face, u missed the ones who were talking smack didnt u.

October 25, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

oceanvger55 (anonymous) says...

Hope they now mix it up better, need the next two for sure!

October 25, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

thiknthinhawk (anonymous) says...

A lot of talk about last years schedule....forgetting we beat a real good VaTech team handily in the Orange Bowl. Now, let the talk about last year's schedule continue.....

October 25, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rasta_meta (anonymous) says...

I have been saying it all year, that Bowen is not a good D-coordinator and that his schemes are very similar to Bob Fello's who was also terrible. I also said that I hoped he matured into the position, but that if he didn't do it soon the players would lose confidence in him. That is because they had success under Young and now all of a sudden they all suck? A lot of them are trying to over compensate for the schemes and that is why there are a lot of missed tackles and blown coverages. These players simply don't trust what the coaches are calling anymore. Bowen needs to go or they need to bring in a co-defensive coordinator to assist him.

October 25, 2008 at 5:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

oceanvger55 (anonymous) says...

ic, intx, Im in colorado unlike u n tx but I dont get so upset when my college kids lose, guess I am always a winner dont need u or any team to make me a winner.These Jayhawks will be fine and in a bowl game, there are alot of young ones here, they'll get it and I estimate a bigger then mis sour team next year toooo.!

October 25, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

KU beat VA Tech 24-21...hardly handily by anyone's definition.Last year's easy schedule led to an amazing year for the Hawks. That amazing year led a large majority of unobjective fans to assume it would be followed up by another year of similar results. It wasn't going to happen due to having a tougher schedule and losing two key players (Collins & Talib) early to the NFL. Blame can go around to a lot of coaches, players and factors but anyone who thought another 12-1, 10-2 season was within reach was severly misguided.

October 25, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hawkish4bigM (anonymous) says...

I don't buy the idea that the spread can't be stopped. Idon't care if Bowen stays or not, but we need to scour the country looking for someone immediately who is having success in defending it. I can see now why Coach M was so concerned about our running game. We need to be able to rest our defense. I didn't see the game so I don't know what transpired but I believe that we have a level of talent that does not justify this disparity. We have a coaching problem in the defense. We have seen that all year.

October 25, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

oceanvger55,You don't get upset if your team loses by 42 on Homecoming? Then maybe to you its that when they lose, its no big deal, but when they win you're all over it. I've been supporting the KU Jayhawks ever since I was in High School in Kansas. Through the good and the bad. And I care. Those kids are mad, you could see it on the field they were mad! So, I'm mad. at clint bowen and the poor excuse of a Sell Out Crowd that should have created a clear Home Field Advantage for us! I know it was an 11am game. But cmon, the NFL starts at Noon. And I've heard Memorial Stadium way louder than this! way louder! So you want to be complacent, I won't be, I hope they take what I say as a challenge and I hope they prove me wrong! Thats what I want them to do. prove me wrong!

October 25, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

Mangino needs to completely take over the reigns of the defense this week. Bowen's schemes (and mostly lack of inspirational "believe in yourself coaching) are killing us. The only weak link is our defense. Mangino can change it himself. If he doesn't, our D is going to get stomped the next 4 games. This is now Mangino's job.

October 25, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fihsch (anonymous) says...

sigh.....I'd much prefer a team with a strong D than a fancy offense. This reminds me of the Chiefs 5 years ago that couldn't force a punt out of the Colts in the playoff game.

October 25, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

Note to Mangino: a cornerback can legally bump a wide receiver as hard as he/ she wants after the snap of the ball. Letting a wide receiver run free without this bump (or smash) is akin to giving a team like TT free points, every possession. Take a look at the film. There's no set up. They just flat out -- out run our cornerbacks in a full on sprint (and safeties), unimpeded. There is no attempt by any KU player to slow this down. If you slow it down (at least), the quarterback is forced into making a more dangerous play (or get sacked). Take charge, Coach Mangino. This is embarrassing.

October 25, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ku_tailg8 (anonymous) says...

Don't blame the fans for this...They were there. I was there. Are you kidding me? If the players can't buy into what we are doing then why should the fans when we are down by 6 touchdowns? Get a grip on your life buddy. Our schedule is obviously harder than last year so take your lumps. I hate losing, especially losing by 5 touchdowns. After next year we won't have to play tt, ou and ut. Its a cycle and we have to learn to deal with it.

October 25, 2008 at 6:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hawkish4bigM (anonymous) says...

I don't care what anyone else thinks but I agree with you 100 that interrupting the route is the best defense. It throws off the timing and the route. During the Snyder years KSU's defense intimidate receivers by smacking them around and making them earn their catches. KU is not doing this. Smacking receivers coming over the middle is something else that needs to happen. Heck, you might as well through in a few shots. Even if they end in penalties so what. You're not stopping them anyway. What are the officials going to do, through you out of the game because you are playing too rough?

October 25, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

I was there too. Please spare me the apathetic crowd bit. The crowd was very much into the game when the game was competitive. But when the other team scores on every possession, it's a real turn off. No, this one is not on the crowd. This one is right on the defensive coaching staff and not on the players. I saw Bill Young get a very slow defense fired up 4 years ago and play #1 Texas off its feet. Last year, Mike Leach fired his defensive co-ordinator mid-season. We need to do the same thing. Hells-bells, Sam Houston State passed for 350 yards against us. That should have brought out a big red flag.This coaching staff has taken the strength of our defense, our experienced line backers, and have neutralized them. Nine of eleven starters returning on defense, and we get this crap!

October 25, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jhawkdan42 (anonymous) says...

This was a very embarrising display by our Hawks but it is what it is. We are a good team going up against some great offensive teams. We have a very young and inexperienced defensive line. Without pressure any QB will pick apart the secondary let alone the kind of QB's we are facing every week. We need to keep supporting our Hawks and remember what football aruond here use to be like! We still have a realistic shot at being 7 and 5 or maybe 8-3 if we play over our heads against Mizzu! Lets stop the bashing and support our hawks! rcjh!!!!

October 25, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jhawkdan42 (anonymous) says...

By the way, I absolutely cant stand Leach! I wish we would have smacked Harrel at the end of the game and ruined their season(I know it's not very sporting to think that way) but maybe getting Harrel hurt there at the end would have knocked that s@@t eating grin off his face, Leach is a classless jerk!

October 25, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jtsmith012 (anonymous) says...

i'm stunned that after the first quarter our offense and defense seemed like they quit. Reesing struggled and had no time and it seemed like our defense couldn't get off the field. Oh well it'll all come down to the border war ku vs. mu for the big 12 title game!Let's move on to K-State

October 25, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Mr_Sandman (anonymous) says...

KU's defense= Vomit inducing. Can we at least slow down a good offense. We had better not lose to the fricken grapeheads next week or I am going to be pissed. I did not pay the $80 for the ticket and however much for the tanks of gas to watch an uninspired joke of a game like this last one. There is no reason to be this bad on D.... I know the teams we are playing lately have great offenses but come on, try something new whether it is new schemes or new personnel because our D sucks out loud right now! I love the Hawks but if I go to Lawrence next week and they lose to the kitties, it is officially BB season for me.

October 25, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jhwkfan162515 (anonymous) says...

There's no way we lose to K-State. No way. It won't happen.

October 25, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Code_2008 (anonymous) says...

We have two win against at least KSU and NU to confirm it to be a Big 12 North Title game against MU, jtsmith012.I must say that was the worst performance I've ever seen by the jayhawks this season. The question isn't IF we'll make it to a bowl game, the question is SHOULD we even get to go bowling after that performance?I'm sorry, but when our team is down by SEVEN touchdowns, its hard for the fans (and the band) to get hyped up.I too look forward to basketball, but I still will enjoy the final month of football too!

October 25, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

LAJayhawk5 (anonymous) says...

we miss you, bill young. wtf?

October 25, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

omari1911 (anonymous) says...

I'm with JayhawkDan. This was a horrible game for us, but let's take inventory of things here. Yes, this was a huge disappointment and a setback for a developing program, but it wasn't all that long ago, in the greater scheme of things, that we were hoping to see a few good wins in a season. And now, it's been two years since we lost back-to-back games. The current problems with the team are well-documented and roundly bemoaned, but to all these so-called fans that have turned on the program and are preaching doom for an ever tortured KU program: Get a grip. Gripe about the lack of defense. Complain about the play calling. But save the hyperbole when about how last year's Coach of the Year is horrible or how we might as well go back to the days when we just tried to make it through to basketball season. The truth is that the season isn't over. There are still wins to be had and a the first KU consecutive bowl trip in some time. Yes, the defense was made fools of by what might be the best offense in college football. That sucks, no doubt. But the difference between building a first-tier, real program and where KU is now are fair weather fans like these that turn to doomsayers after a solid butt kicking. I know many of us may be inexperienced at this football team backing thing, but guess what... this is sometimes an unfortunate step in the process.

October 25, 2008 at 9:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

omari1911 (anonymous) says...

...But get another Def. Coordinator. LOL

October 25, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

JBurtin (anonymous) says...

Wow, the meltdown on this board is ten times more embarrassing than the one on the field. I know everyone is just venting out of frustration, but many of you are representing the fanbase in the worst possible way I can imagine.You know what I was doing when we were down 63 to 14? Laughing about the fact that some days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed, and making noise in support of my team.Am I going to give up on them now? Of course not. This is not the first terrible loss that KU has ever suffered, and it certainly won't be the last, but you'll never hear me badmouth my own team the way you people do.Man up and realize, it's just a game and it didn't go our way. Not that big of a deal.

October 25, 2008 at 9:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

flipborder02 (anonymous) says...

Went to the K-state game with a really good friend of mine and K-states can score the ball. They scored 3 TD on OU in 6min so I think its going to be a shootout. I think are hawks win by a touchdown.

October 25, 2008 at 9:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

JBurtin (anonymous) says...

My take is that our defense certainly got their butts kicked early in the game, but they didn't play 63 points worth of terrible.The D wasn't making any stops, so Reesing (being the miracle maker that he is) tried to do way too much. He kept trying to make the big play instead of just making a play.Our offense went out on 3 consecutive drives and threw a pick within 2 plays, giving Tech short fields. I know our defense wasn't playing well, but as soon as we got down by 14 points Reesing started to panic and throw interceptions like they were going out of style.I'm not saying it was some kind of awesome defensive performance, but Reesing went out of his way to add insult to injury. Take those three interceptions and turn them into sustained scoring drives and this could have still been a game at the end. Tech's defense would have been the one looking tired late in the game, and a good offensive performance could have made all the difference in pumping up the D to get a couple of stops.To those who think that last year was just a fluke I will ask a simple question.If you added Marcus Henry, Anthony Collins, Cesar Rodriguez, Brandon McAnderson, Derek Fine, James McClinton, and Aqib Talib to this year's roster, would this game have gotten ugly the way it did today?Of course KU benefitted from an easier schedule last year, but this year's team doesn't hold a candle to last year's. Most of the names on that list were Seniors and important team leaders that have now been replaced by freshmen. We lost our best pass rusher (McClinton), our biggest playmaker (Talib), our best receiver (Henry), a stud tight end that blocked like a beast and could catch anything (Fine), an All-American tackle and energy source for the team (Collins), a four year starter at RT (Rodriguez), and a runningback that ran like a miniature Jerome Bettis and blocked even better than he ran (McAnderson). We've still got a ton of talent on this team, but many of them are just too young to fill the shoes of the giants that just left.If we finish strong we can still land a bowl game this year, and that would be just fine with me. We still have a slew of talented young recruits that will need some time to grow into their breeches, and if we can pull a couple of good Juco players for the D Line to add a pass rush, we will probably fair pretty well next year as well.Mangino: "If you're going through hell, keep going."

October 25, 2008 at 9:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

The fact is the KU defense has been suspect all year. Look at the ISU game. I'm sorry. I am the eternal optimist but this year's defense just ain't the same and we are going to have a tough time getting a win in the next four games. I keep thinking we are going to get better with each game. But, I just don't see any improvement. If we can't get some 3 and outs, it just puts too much pressure on the offense. I am completely flabbergasted. Before the season, I thought the defense was going to be the strength of this team.

October 25, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kutodd (anonymous) says...

When I was at KU we didnt win 12 games in 4 years. I went to Miami and watched them win the Orange bowl last year. If KU wins 6, 7, 8 games a year with the once in a while miracle season then KU fans should be thrilled. I watch every single game and like many of you get very frustrated. A few things to remember...KU is not a traditional powerhouse football program and the fact that our fans are getting so upset is great. It means that our expectations, while too high, are at least that we expect to win every game! I used to watch KU football and wonder how bad we would lose.

October 25, 2008 at 10:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

railer1122 (anonymous) says...

Yeah guys whats up with the its basketball season soon. Our football team is still 5-3, top of the Big XII North, got a terrible D coming into town in K-State. I can't stand all you fair-weather fans. KU is still in position for a bowl game. Remember Mangino's first year here, 2-10, we have come a long way. Everyone needs to relax a bit, it was just one of those days where nothing went right for KU and everything went right for Tech.

October 25, 2008 at 11:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhwk5288 (anonymous) says...

rough day fansdont lose faith in themthey are a good football team that had a rough dayrock chalk!

October 26, 2008 at 12:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hawkish4bigM (anonymous) says...

I say that KU students need to put together their best team and scrimmage the KU Defense. Like overtime, the students get the ball at the 25 and have to score. If the intramural squad scores, Bowen goes!

October 26, 2008 at 1:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

rockchalkblock (anonymous) says...

fire bowen!!! fire bowen!!! fire bowen!!! fire bowen!!! fire bowen!!!!

October 26, 2008 at 1:44 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

rockchalkblock (anonymous) says...

Anyone looking to cover Bowens back are DeDeDes!! How does KU's D go from a pride in the confrence to a JOKE and in the year that Young leaves...hmmmmmm ODD.. Bowen doesnt know what D1 football is about and someone has to tell him that he is horriable he couldnt coach his way out of a paper bag if he TRIED.. im sick of seeing a tallented corners sit on the bench!! little alone the first down marker , did he not learn his lesson at ISU ??

October 26, 2008 at 1:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

mace221 (anonymous) says...

They should have fired Bowen at halftime...What bugs me the most about this game was they KU wasn't even competitive. The times we have lost at home in the last 5-6 years were almost always close losses where we usually blew a big lead...but at least we were in the game. This was the most embarassing display of defense play calling and execution I have ever seen as a KU football fan (but keep in mind I wasn't around for the 2002 season of that 64-0 smacking placed on us by KSU). Anyways, I think we will win next week against KSU regardless of what has transpired the past 2 weeks. There just isnt any way Todd will have a day like he did today. This loss may have finally drubbed some sense into the team, and it will show next week. They will be ready to go and win a shoot out with K-State. I just hope we can salvage a bowl game out of this season so at least we can claim to be a school that has gone to consecutive bowl games.

October 26, 2008 at 1:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Hawkish4bigM (anonymous) says...

Don't count on it, Mace. No bowl game this year. Not at 6-6. Bowen should have been fired after the FSU game.

October 26, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )