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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Five freshmen could forego red shirts

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Of the 26 true freshmen listed on the Jayhawks' preseason roster, at least five could forego a red-shirt season, Kansas football coach Mark Mangino said Monday.

In addition to Daymond Patterson, Mangino mentioned Corrigan Powell (listed No. 2 at the right cornerback spot behind Chris Harris), Darius Parish (No. 2 at right defensive tackle) and tight end Tim Biere as true freshmen who have the potential to play immediately this season.

The coach reserved his highest praise, however, for Ben Lueken, a 6-foot-6, 300-pound offensive lineman out of St. Louis' Chaminade High.

"We haven't decided exactly (what to do with him yet)," said Mangino. "If we have a need to play Ben, we'll play him. If not, we'll red-shirt him. But what he's done in training camp is hard to overlook, and he may be ready to contribute now."

Comments

Dirk Medema 11 years, 6 months ago

"If there is a need" a 4th yr Sr going to the NFL sounds better than a 4th yr Jr leaving early (ala AC).

jayhawk1996 11 years, 6 months ago

One freshman = "freshman"More than one freshman, as in "Five freshman could forego red shirts," = freshmenYour copy editing bill is in the mail, boys.

hometownhawk 11 years, 6 months ago

He means assuming the other 2 freshmen redshirt, there would only be one remaining TE not redshirting (2-1=1), if Dedeaux or Steward gets injured. I'm sure that if there are no injuries and the 2 "upperclassmen" perform, they will keep the redshirt on, but you can always take it off if necessary.

KU 11 years, 6 months ago

Not sure what you mean when you say we'd be down to 1 tight end if Biere redshirts. If you will recall, KU stole him out of Nebraska's backyard even though we had a Kansas kid--Tanner Hawkinson--who was highly regarded already signed. Then you also have another freshman in Nick Plato.

okjhok 11 years, 6 months ago

With Dedeaux and Steward, why would we need Biere to do anything this year?

justanotherfan 11 years, 6 months ago

Don't we use a three tight set on some goalline formations? Or have we done away with that since going to the spread? If we have a three tight formation, I could see Biere getting some time, since we don't have many other TE's. Also, if anything happens to either Dedeaux or Steward, we would be down to only 1 TE if we redshirt Biere.I am glad to see that we have at least a handful of recruits talented enough to come in and contribute immediately. That's a testament to the upgrade in recruiting that we have experienced.

justanotherfan 11 years, 6 months ago

I understand the wait and see approach, but I'd hate to burn a redshirt because of midseason injuries (and only get half a season out of a guy) when you could just play him from the start if he has the ability, giving him the full season of game action to develop.Besides, I'd rather have a true freshman's first action be at home in a blowout against Florida International than on the road in a tight game against Oklahoma due to injuries.

rhino11 11 years, 6 months ago

Don't we use a three tight set on some goalline formations? Or have we done away with that since going to the spread? If we have a three tight formation, I could see Biere getting some time, since we don't have many other TE's. Also, if anything happens to either Dedeaux or Steward, we would be down to only 1 TE if we redshirt Biere.I am glad to see that we have at least a handful of recruits talented enough to come in and contribute immediately. That's a testament to the upgrade in recruiting that we have experienced.-------We use three tackles, not three tight ends. Most teams go with three TEs though. I think they'll play wait and see, same with Leuken. If a TE or OT goes down, expect the redshirt to be burned.

Billy Derringer 11 years, 6 months ago

save him whats better 1st year freshman or 5th year senior ?

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