Tar Heels fast, but KU in ’90 more ‘efficient’

Posted Wednesday, April 2, 2008

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In at least one way, North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams continues to pursue one of his earliest teams.

The Tar Heels, especially with Williams in charge the last five years, have featured a ridiculously fast-paced offense that has proven overwhelming to many opponents.

Yet Williams was quick to point out at his Tuesday news conference that he’s still chasing a mark he established early in his career.

“The team that was the highest-scoring team I ever coached was the 1990 Kansas team that averaged 92 a game my second year,” Williams said. “That team didn’t play as fast as we play right now. But that team was unbelievably efficient.”

This year’s North Carolina team averages 89.2 points per game heading into Saturday’s highly anticipated Final Four showdown against Kansas. It’s the highest-scoring team Williams has had at UNC, but still falls below his Kansas squads in 1989-90 (92.1) and 2001-02 (90.9).

Expect Williams to continue gunning for those marks as long as he’s coaching. An epiphany may have came in 2002, when his backcourt of Aaron Miles, Kirk Hinrich and Jeff Boschee helped the Jayhawks to the Final Four.

“Three point guards in the starting lineup,” Williams said. “It evolved to, ‘Hey, this is the way I really like to coach. This is the way I like to see my teams play.’”

North Carolina (36-2) now runs faster than ever, thanks largely to the blurring speed of sophomore point guard Ty Lawson. A 5-foot-10 sophomore out of Clinton, Md., Lawson orchestrates the madness and has put up 12.8 points and 5.3 assists per game in 31 contests. He missed seven games with an ankle injury.

Lawson is exactly the type of floor general Williams seeks now. It wasn’t always that way.

“When I recruited Adonis Jordan, my first recruit, it wasn’t me saying, ‘Boy he’s going to be great at running up somebody’s back.’” Williams said. “When I recruited Ty Lawson, that’s what I said: ‘This guy is going to be miserable for some defense because he’s going to run up their back.’

“… It evolved over that time. There is a more concerted effort now from myself, me and my staff both.”

Remarkably, Williams’ latest teams still chase the 1990 edition led by Kevin Pritchard that beat Kentucky, 150-95, and Iowa State, 118-75. Six players from that team averaged more than 8.5 points per game.

“What we had with that team was guys who could run,” Williams said, “but we didn’t run at the pace that we ran later in our time at Kansas or now (at UNC).”

Out of patience: Williams was asked again Tuesday about the drama of playing Kansas, the school he coached from 1988-2003.

Specifically, is he worried it will be a distraction leading into Saturday’s game?

“I don’t think my team will get distracted from it, and I’m getting very close to putting an end to it right now,” Williams said. “It’s not the story. The story is Kansas and their great program and their great team in 2008, and North Carolina and their great program and their team in 2008.”

North Carolina standout Tyler Hansbrough confirmed what some have concluded: The storyline is between Williams, the KU fans and the media.

“For me as a player, it’s not much more than just a big-time game,” Hansbrough said. “I have no connection to Kansas.”

Williams addressed a few questions about it during Tuesday’s news conference. He can expect many more as the week progresses, whether he likes it or not.

“It’s taking up a lot of time right now, but you guys got to touch all the bases,” Williams said. “Some people want to hear about that more than I think they should.”

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Posted by yates33333 (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ever wonder if the Chapel Hill newspaper, or whatever newspaper is close to UNC, includes information about Bill Self in its columns now that the Heels are playing KU? I suspect they are reporting about OSU replacing Sutton and maybe speculating about Self. Don't you think OSU acted too fast on Sutton? He seemed like a pretty good coach who got a lot out of some very ordinary players.

Hopefully after this year we can forget about the Heels' heel.

Posted by KU (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Efficiency on offense is far more important than points per game, in my mind. Efficiency has to do with points per possession; points per game depends instead on the pace of the game and having a higher number of possessions.

If you're highly efficient, you can win at any pace.

For most of the season, KU was ranked #1 in offensive AND defensive efficiency. Over the last several games, UNC has become the most efficient team offensively and KU is ranked #2. If not for the pathetic offensive effort against Davidson, we'd probably still be ahead of UNC.

On the defensive end, KU is still #1 in efficiency. UNC spent most of the year in the 30s, but they have really turned up the defense in the tournament and they are now #19. They can play defense when they want to.

They say "defense wins championships". I guess we'll find out what happens when UNC's unstoppable offensive force meets KU's brick wall defense Saturday.

Rock Chalk!

Posted by KU (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me correct my last post. KU is now #3 in defensive efficiency after being #1 most of the year. UCLA is #2 and Memphis is #5.

As for pace (primarily possessions per game), UNC is #9, Memphis #83, KU #133, and UCLA #223.

Posted by caddie733 (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yates33333...why would UNC care to write about Self being at KU? He has no ties to UNC. LJW writes about Roy because he has ties to KU. I don't think UNC cares about Self and the OSU job, why would they? It doesn't affect them at all.

We can agree, however, that the timing of the whole OSU situation sucks. I don't think it will be any distraction, as Self has already diffused it. I think he could possibly leave later on (when his coaching career is almost over or things become stagnant here and he needs a change), but not now, not after 5 years and just getting HIS players and HIS program here.

Posted by BannerforKirk (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KU - I think the point for Roy and the article was that the '90 team didn't play as fast, presumably then not getting as many possessions, but they still scored 92 a game. I'm guessing they were pretty efficient if they're scoring that high with fewer possessions.

Posted by kushaw (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yates: Actually, I live in Charlotte, NC and that's really all that's been said on the radio this morning. Most of the local sports radio people are kind of mocking and laughing at KU because of the timing of the "Firing", I mean resignation of Coach Sutton. I love living in the Carolinas, but the one thing I hate about this region is the ACC, UNC, Duke, bias media, and the fans of the UNC tarsmells. It's down right annoying listenening to the all the crap, but it makes even want more to have bragging rights over my neighbors. What a sweet victory it would be!

Posted by kushaw (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

caddie: Just to let you know that there are two articles today in the Charlotte Observer about "Self". One is titled "Questions on future find Self in denial." and the other one is ,"Self alone as Final Four rooke." Obviously Carolina is mesmorized by "Self".

Posted by PhogFan4 (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

are we going to lose self?? ya i heard his reaction to the situation, but we all remember hearing that before.. why would u leave prestige for mediocracy...boone pickens needs to leave self the hell alone, old bastard

Posted by leikness (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hansborough has a connection to Kansas...He's from Misery. Does anybody else dislike (trying to avoid the word hate lately) him as much as I do? I am so sick of him drawing fouls because he's so damm awkward that it just looks like he's constantly getting murdered.

Posted by caddie733 (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wouldn't consider 2 articles as mesmerized, especially since one is about Self being a Final Four rookie. Only 1 article on Self and OSU does not exactly invoke "mesmerized" to me, it sounds like they are simply reporting news like all national media outlets. The point I was making is that there are many Roy articles on here because of his obvious connection to KU whereas Self has no connection to UNC.

Posted by kbacs (anonymous) on April 2, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We KU fans are pretty paranoid/pathetic. We are still obsession about being wronged by Roy and now we can worry our heads off about Bill "abandoning" us.

I went out to see what the OK newspapers might be saying about this, and amazingly enough, they don't even mention Bill Self. They mention Mark Few ?, Rick Majerous, P J Carlisimo, but not Bill.

The Edmond paper even goes as far as this -

"Before the resurgence, the conventional wisdom was, how can you get rid of a guy after two seasons, even against all of this? But it has since become, why would you get rid of a guy after two seasons when he’s handled the worst kind of adversity so well?

Eddie Sutton said OSU isn’t one of the top jobs, not in the country, but even the conference.

It doesn’t have a huge fan base beyond the 13,600 that tend to show up for the games. It doesn’t have the tradition everybody believes it has because only two coaches, two of the best the game has ever seen — Henry Iba and Eddie Sutton — have ever won there.

It is, in fact, the exact kind of place that will find its greatest and most long-term success with a coach who wants to be there forever, just like Sean Sutton, who if he hadn’t yet proven he could be the guy long term, certainly hadn’t proven he couldn’t.

Indeed, as hard as it may be for Holder to make the kind of splash with a hire that gets everybody to forget the messiness of Tuesday’s resignation, it might be even harder to find 10 smart people who would choose Mike Gundy’s future ahead of Sutton’s."

I wonder how Eddie Sutton will counsel Bill if he even asks?

I'm not too worried!!!!

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