Saturday, November 2, 2019


Matt Tait: Next time, the matchup with K-State has to mean more

Kansas head coach Les Miles congratulates Kansas State head coach Chris Klieman following the Wildcats' 38-10 win over the Jayhawks on Saturday, Nov. 2, 2019 at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas head coach Les Miles congratulates Kansas State head coach Chris Klieman following the Wildcats' 38-10 win over the Jayhawks on Saturday, Nov. 2, 2019 at Memorial Stadium.


Not yet, KU fans.

Despite all kinds of momentum suggesting it might be, and a fun and flashy new offense to play with, Kansas football under Les Miles is not quite ready to beat Kansas State, even with a new coach leading the Wildcats.

Instead of snapping a 10-game losing skid and partying like it was 2008 — or even just threatening to do either — the Jayhawks on Saturday fell flat in every aspect, losing 38-10 in front of a capacity crowd of 47,233 at David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium.

While a win Saturday without question would have been the most significant KU football victory in 3,959 days — Kansas beat Minnesota on the last day of 2008 to win the Insight Bowl — the latest clash with K-State was not a total loss, despite what the final score says.

Five days after comparing the Sunflower Showdown rivalry to Bedlam in Oklahoma, the Michigan-Ohio State battle in the Big Ten and even the old classic pro clash between the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins, Miles now knows exactly what this one is about.

And it’s not one you can treat just like any other game.

The Wildcats, even under first-year coach Chris Klieman, clearly didn’t. And that was the norm for years under former K-State coach Bill Snyder, who made it his personal mission year after year to make sure his teams gave their absolute best to Kansas.

No one’s blaming Miles for not making every day of Year 1 of a massive rebuild about Kansas State.

You don’t build anything of substance and sustainability by doing it that way, no matter how much a win over your in-state rival would please the fans and donors. And you certainly can’t take any day for granted.

“Every victory right now, at this point in time, is awfully important,” Miles said after Saturday’s loss. “Including the one we just walked off the field and did not get. So, yeah, I’m kind of looking at each game kind of balanced.”

But next year, with the Miles culture and clear expectations in place from the jump, KU’s new coach can and should do more to make sure KU fans in 2020 aren’t watching a replay of what they saw Saturday.

The old story about Snyder’s preparation for Kansas is legendary. Snyder asked, the story goes, that every one of his assistant coaches spent time preparing for Kansas every day of the year. But it went deeper than that.

When the Wildcats coaching staff divided their upcoming schedule in half to break down opponents in the spring, the group of six always included Kansas.

When they did it again during the summer months, often grabbing the other half of the schedule and preparing a loose game plan for those opponents, they never excluded Kansas. Ever.

The KU game was circled on the schedule. It was talked about or thought about in some manner every single day. And it was crystal clear to everyone in the facility that that game meant more.

Now it’s Miles and KU’s turn to match that.

Doing so will not guarantee the results that Jayhawk fans want. But it will give Kansas a better chance, and it should reignite the rivalry that has become oh so lopsided to the tune of an average K-State victory of 40-14 over the last 11 years.

Miles has seen that firsthand now. And he knows rivalries. So it can be done.

“I think it’s exactly the style of rivalry that I’m used to seeing,” he said of his first taste of the Sunflower Showdown. “Close proximity, they know us, we know them and it was a hard-fought game.”

After another bye this week, KU (3-6 overall, 1-5 Big 12) still has three games to play before any real evaluation of Miles’ first year at Kansas can begin. But it’s not too soon for the K-State clock to start ticking.


Dane Pratt 3 years, 1 month ago

This has never been a rivalry. Up until about 1990 we owned them and for the last three decades they have owned us. Within the next decade we'll be playing Missouri again in football and that will be the real rivalry.

Dane Pratt 3 years, 1 month ago

But it should become THE rivalry. They hate us and circle the game on their calendar. Time to reciprocate in football and basketball.

Robert Brock 3 years, 1 month ago

One of the teams on the gridiron dressed like middle schoolers and looked dreadfully bad.

Chris Condren 3 years, 1 month ago

Positives.....a great crowd and tremendous atmosphere.

Negatives....a complete beatdown showing the the program has a ways to go before the team is able the compete in the Big 12.

John Strayer 3 years, 1 month ago

Great crowd??? Where the hell were you sitting? I was surrounded by a bunch of drunk obnoxious KSU a-holes. Absolutely intolerable. I guess good for KU in the end that we're able to get $80 times 13,000 tickets from them plus a ton of $8 beers.

Brett McCabe 3 years, 1 month ago

Great column Matt. I think that Miles is going to understand the importance of this game going forward. He must.

Get this roster built up. Review the DC. Get focused for next year, because KSU clearly hired the right guy.

Patrick Bryant 3 years, 1 month ago

Very disappointed in the season ticket holders that did not show up and either gave or sold their tickets to KSU fans. Had to sit through the 1st half with a jack wagon a couple rows up and a mild JW across the isle. That doesn't happen at football schools. Everyone is responsible from KU, football operations, alumni and fans if this thing is going to turn around. Like to see some tradition also - blue uniforms @ home, all red for KSU game and whites for the road. All these uniform changes are too gimmicky. Leave that to Oregon.

Dane Pratt 3 years, 1 month ago

During this decade we may have passed Oregon as owners of the most clownish uniforms in college and yesterday was not the worst.

Dane Pratt 3 years, 1 month ago

K-State is the benchmark we should be using for the level of football we eventually want to reach. We are 6-24 in the last three decades and during that time K-State has won two conference titles and this year will be their 21st bowl game. Our only bragging rights are an 18 game all time advantage. BFD! And now with Klieman in charge I can see no reason why this trend will not continue. We will never be an Oklahoma or Texas but there is no reason we can’t compete with our cross state rivals. We have a lot of catching up to do.

John Strayer 3 years, 1 month ago

The added problem is that for younger fans this games history beyond 10 years is meaningless...all they remember is the 11 straight losses now.

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