Sunday, October 7, 2018

Decommitment from Wichita TE leaves KU with 1 recruit in 2019 class

Kansas University football recruiting

Kansas University football recruiting


And then there was one.

Just one commitment remains in place for the Kansas football program’s 2019 recruiting class as of Sunday evening.

That’s when Clay Cundiff, rated a three-star tight end by Rivals, announced he decided to back out of his non-binding verbal pledge to KU in order to commit to Wisconsin.

A 6-foot-4, 240-pound senior at Wichita’s Bishop Carroll High, Cundiff took an official visit to Madison, Wis., this weekend.

The would-be KU signee announced his change of heart on Twitter, in a note accompanying photos of his trip to Wisconsin.

“I want to thank the University of Kansas, Coach (David) Beaty and the entire staff for giving me the opportunity to play at the next level. After much thought and consideration, I feel that there is a better fit for me to further my academic and athletic career elsewhere,” Cundiff wrote. “I have decided to flip my commitment to the University of Wisconsin.”

Cundiff committed to KU in late June, at the time becoming the second member of the Jayhawks’ 2019 class. Since then New Orleans quarterback Lance LeGendre and Cundiff have both backed off their initial decisions.

The tight end from Wichita notified KU coaches of his visit to Wisconsin beforehand, he told Scott Chasen of

For now the only 2019 recruit tied to KU is Cole Mueller, a two-star running back from Wentzville, Mo.

Every Big 12 team except KU and Kansas State has at least 16 commitments for 2019 lined up. K-State currently has eight.

As one might expect due to the current state of its class, KU is not ranked anywhere within Rivals’ top 100 for team rankings.

None by Clay Cundiff


Dillon Davis 4 years, 2 months ago

He can't even recruit the state of Texas which is what he was brought here to do...of the 21 commits from the 2018 class only 3 were from Texas. Tony Hull is the reason we have some of the guys that we do (and credit Beaty for hiring him) but Hull is someone we need to try and retain no matter who the next coach is. My guess is he goes back to Louisiana or joins an SEC staff though...especially after seeing all the success Pooka and other RBs have had over the past couple of years.

Brian Wilson 4 years, 2 months ago

Hence.....maybe a good reason to let Beaty go and promote Hull to interim Head Coach.. I know this isn't high school but Hull was a successful High School coach so why not see what he can do. We have already seen Bowen, and IMO, we dont need to see Meachem. So why not? What do we have to lose?

Gerry Butler 4 years, 2 months ago

I agree with you. - What I have said is and only because there are some that seem Les Miles would be interested in coming here - - I am one that thinks not - -BUT IF he did --what I would like to see is Sign Les to like a 5 yr deal- -and have him take Tony under his wings for those 5 yrs then when Les moved on Tony would have 5 yrs of gaining experience- -retain Tony if possible at all costs has the in to the Boot we need to keep that door open

Randy Bombardier 4 years, 2 months ago

That's a crazy idea. I like it. Recruiting would soar if we did that. Art Briles was just a high school coach and he did okay until he got greedy.

Jayson Hawk 4 years, 2 months ago

We have no future with this coach. "Every Big 12 team has at least 16 commits other than KSU with Eight" What and absolute disaster!!! Cant wait to hear the Beaty defenders find excuse for this.

Micky Baker 4 years, 2 months ago

Here's one big reason, they come to visit, we play a team at home, the fans aren't there creating an atmosphere beneficial to the players. That's one reason, bad fans.

Jayson Hawk 4 years, 2 months ago

HAHAHA!! Here it is the horrible excuse. Its the fans fault for not showing up, not the 5-37 record or the fact that we get blown out every game and are a national punchline. If you are still advocating for Beaty to move forward as coach you arent a real fan, you are an enabler. Most of the on campus visits happen during the off season anyway, that is why you see football recruits at basketball games. The coaches arent putting a product on the field worth peoples time. He inst 5-37, getting blown out with only one commit because fans have stopped showing up, fans have stopped showing up and he only has one commit because hes 5-37 and getting blown out! "Bad Fans" what a sorry excuse.

David Kemp 4 years, 2 months ago

Yes surely 9 years of losing badly can’t be why fans don’t show up. Fans go to games with the hope your team can win. That isn’t happening here and the coaching seems content as somebody posted with losing not as bad.

Len Shaffer 4 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, you're right, Micky, those are some terrible fans. They should not only put up their hard-earned cash to suffer through another humiliating KU loss, but afterwards they should pay for the privilege of having their fingernails and toenails pulled out one by one ...

Sam Meyer 4 years, 2 months ago

A recruiting class that's this pathetic should be the only necessary criteria to warrant terminating David Beaty. Couple it with his disappointing W-L record and there isn't a good reason to keep him. He's unable to recruit anymore, and he can't put a gameplan together that prevents us from going down 14-0 immediately. KU football needs to move on sooner rather than later. The only reason to keep Beaty is if you're happy with maxing out at 3-9 with average attendance around 15k.

Doug Cramer 4 years, 2 months ago

Bring Back Mangino !

He tweeted the other day that he's ready to get back on the sidelines.

Keep Sawin Wood

Joe Black 4 years, 2 months ago

Quit dreaming. He is not coming back. He was as abusive to local establishments as he was players. He was known to often walk out of restaurants without paying because he was a division one coach and was entitled. Don't get me wrong, the program was a lot more fun when he was the coach but he let it all go to his head which is what started all his problems.

Doug Cramer 4 years, 2 months ago

You can't handle Mangino ? You're a wuss.

By the way, walking out of restaurants without paying is illegal, Mangino didn't do that.

Brian Wilson 4 years, 2 months ago

LOL... And once again, Alumni that can't help but attack the FAT MAN. Which IMO is the reason he was fired. Mangino doesn't look the part or kiss the *** of Alumni, press, or University Officials. And if you think he was abusive you should have met my Junior High coach.

I doubt we ever travel down that road again. But IMO KU needs to apologize publicly to the man.

Randy Bombardier 4 years, 2 months ago

I'm with you. He and Mason were not schmoozers. It was a group of pc types who did not retain Mason and drove off the big guy.

Gerry Butler 4 years, 2 months ago

Doug isn't dreaming any worse then these fools that think Les Miles will come here I'd love to have Mangino back - - but your right he isn't coming back - -he might of been born at night - -but he wasn't born last night. - -After the way he was treated here he is probably laughing his butt off at the thought -- -Can't blame him

Gerry Butler 4 years, 2 months ago

And we sure wouldn't want him to abuse those poor little golden spooned sensitive ears would we roflmao

Brett McCabe 4 years, 2 months ago

Look on the bright side, Beaty is making progress by having far fewer players renege on their verbals than ever before. See? He's doing it the right way.

Steven Haag 4 years, 2 months ago

With the hateful posts and the fan base stirring up the pot, it’s a wonder we even have one recruit. NOBODY wants to commit to a coach when their position is up in the air. Not saying we keep Beaty.....I agree that he needs to go, he’s in year four and I have no doubt that other coaches could have done more with this group of kids. With that said, WE aren’t in charge of firing him. All of your screaming????? Has that made Long fire him? Nope. Maybe it at least makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside😂😂. How about posts like, we will get a good coach and there will be immediate playing time. We love our university and we will support our football players. Wow, that was hard.....NOT

Kevin Robert Fest 4 years, 2 months ago

Do you need a tissue Steven? My god the post about how the negative reactions from fans affects the recruits decision. Oh l don't know maybe he decomitted because Wisconsin is a power and we are not. Better program. Stop crying Steve you sound like Bryson.

Andy Tweedy 4 years, 2 months ago

This means the new coach should have a full allotment of available recruits next year, right? Gotta try to stay positive!

Jeff Coffman 4 years, 2 months ago

Not exactly...Beaty used Blue Shirts, reducing the available scholarship list down. I've heard to 19 instead of 25, but the exact number I do not know.

Andy Tweedy 4 years, 2 months ago

Right! But I'm thinking that if we sign literally nobody this year, we should get a full slate in 2020, surely that's right? God, this whole thing is so depressing!!!

Brian Wilson 4 years, 2 months ago

Well having 19 is not that big a deal. You can only have 85 scholarship players and that's only an average of 21 per year. So having 19 is a pretty a fairly common number to recruit. The incoming coach will just need to recruit 19 2-3 rated potentials. Our Junior class is large at 37 players and some will be able to red shirt and add to our 20 Sophomores. We are at a time when we can red shirt and hold back some players. KU is not nearly as bad off as when Beaty got here other than the fact we have no current recruiting class.

Thomas Wagner 4 years, 2 months ago

Don't you remember last week when Beatty said there was no one that would be redshirted. No matter if it is Beatty or a new coach - there will still be a major imbalance of numbers per class.

Brian Wilson 4 years, 2 months ago

Thomas, Please. I didn't mention reshirting any Seniors to hold them back a year. I'm not talking about this year's redshirts, I'm talking about next year's, 2019 redshirts. Next year we can redshirt some of the Juniors and hold them back into the Sophomore class and so and so forth. The new incoming coach will have the opportunity to do that. Beaty had absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing to work with. He had like 11 Seniors and 10 Juniors and that was it.

Brett Hathaway 4 years, 2 months ago

Hey, but we won "back to back games, which we haven't done in awhile". Those are some pretty lofty goals… Hopefully the pressure cooker is really getting hot and ready to blow!

Jeff Coffman 4 years, 2 months ago

I've been saying it for a while, Beaty has lowered our expectations below low expectations. We are measuring success now by not wins and losses, but by reducing our margin of defeat. The expectation is to lose, it's now less than 40 points is considered a good day.

Micky Baker 4 years, 2 months ago

Did you really expect to be winning 6 games with what Beatty took over? Most people didn't then, but now they do. Keep the goal post in the same place.

Jayson Hawk 4 years, 2 months ago

HA! So we should keep the goal posts the same and our target wins in year 4 should be the same as year one? absurd!

Steven Haag 4 years, 2 months ago

Andy, I get your sarcasm. It is a valid point. We all stand by and can do nothing. Baylor was in that boat a couple of years ago. When they finally hired a coach, he ran out and got a bunch of 3 stars. They are playing pretty good now in year two, so there is hope. Depends on who we get. But all along, the Baylor fan base tried......tried to stay positive. Wish our fan base was the same

Andy Tweedy 4 years, 2 months ago

It's really hard, isn't it? Just seems like there's so little to be positive about!!! We have the local newspaper doing a top 10 interim hires bit, loss after loss after loss, 1 recruit in mid October, etc etc. I spent quite a bit of my youth in Omaha (back here now, in fact), so I grew up around winning football. And it just sucks that no matter what we do, we always seem to end up right back here.

Chris Condren 4 years, 2 months ago

No big deal as Beaty and staff really do not use the TE position for anything at all. Sternberger figured that out and left. This misery will be over soon enough when Baty and his staff are dismissed by season's end. Only then can the program begin to rebuild. The new Coach will have to start building from the ground up.

Craig Carson 4 years, 2 months ago

Recruiting is all about atmosphere..making a kid WANT to be apart of the program..I think recruits know Beaty is on his way out and they dont want to commit to a coach they know wont be around when they show up at first practice..this KU FB program has nothing exciting about it....a culture change is needed..even if Beaty guides KU to 4-5 wins, he needs to go regardless

Steven Haag 4 years, 2 months ago

Yes it is hard to be excited. It’s hard to stay positive. Unless you transform your thinking. I can say one thing that 99.9% of you will agree with (except Kevin, that dude lives in a perpetual black hole). Here’s the one thing: all of the blasting does ZERO good. Not one iota. It hasn’t made Long fire Beaty. I’ve yet to hear one recruit say, “I came to Kansas because of all the negative posts made about the football program. That drew me right in.” And yes, in the social media age, recruits read blogs and posts. I’m excited because sometime in the next 50-60 days we will hear something outta Long. Maybe I can look forward to some positive posts then.

Craig Carson 4 years, 2 months ago

what has Beaty done to make KU fans say anything positive? 3-36 is his think KU fans ARENT suppose to say anything about that? or are we suppose to be positive no matter how big of a dumpster fire we are ? HELL NO...we gave him 3 years and have seen no sorry, but we have a right to be upset and we WILL post on social media about it UNTIL we have a REASON to be positive

Sarah Reagan 4 years, 2 months ago

People this is a fan blog!! Blogs are for opinions, good and bad. We are not communist China where we should expect everyone to log on and say something positive to try to entice a recruit. These kids aren’t stupid and don’t need fake positive encouragement. If anything, they smell right through it and reject it because it doesn’t feel like the real truth.

The recruits that will come to the school now do so because they prioritize things over any fan opinion (I.e. scholarship education, coaching relationship, playing time, only offer to play power 5). The good ones will want to start coming in when we win. If any recruit is soft enough to read the cold hard truth on this message board and change their decision, we don’t want them anyways. We need Mangino toughness back in the program!

Eric Eakins 4 years, 2 months ago

Sarah, common sense will not be tolerated here. Take that take somewhere else. /s

Every school message board looks and sounds the same. Bama was complaining the other day that fans weren't showing up to see their blowouts. LOL. I watched the 4th quarter of the KSU / Baylor game in Waco, very competitive yet when they came back from TV timeout I thought the game was over when they panned the crowd (or lack thereof). Whenever Baylor (4-2) did something good they did a very tight shot of 50 students in the endzone section because that is all that was there. Are Baylor recruits not seeing this and wondering why they are committing to Baylor?

I'm sure KU has more kids interested then one but there is no need to commit verbally until they know what the situation is next year. Some will come if Beaty stays. Others will come if he goes. The rest will come either way. But why not keep options open in uncertain world. With that said, I hope Long makes some really good decisions soon.

Steven Haag 4 years, 2 months ago

Sarah, just because it’s truth doesn’t make worthy of posting. I know quite a few people who are ugly, fat, etc. I don’t go out on media sites and blast them for being ugly, fat, dumb, etc.......because it isn’t right.

Brian Skelly 4 years, 2 months ago

When and if we get to 2-7 (3 more losses in a row),  Beaty will simply be relieved of his duty as head coach.

ONE PLAYER COMMITTED to KU for next year at this point?!?!?!?    INEXCUSABLE.

It'd be one thing if he was winning.   But he isnt.    And KU's football program is a decade old dumpster fire that no one seems to know how to put out.

Lets hope Jeff Long does, because that's why he's here.

Jayson Hawk 4 years, 2 months ago

Inexcusable is the perfect term. Can you imagine President with this type of "progress" in year 4? what do you think their chances for re-election would be? And you know they would be blaming it on the guy who was there before them.

Clarence Haynes 4 years, 2 months ago

I hear the «  sucking sound » that is sucking top Kansas HS players out of Kansas!

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