Thursday, November 23, 2017

Jayhawks pick up commitment from juco CB on Thanksgiving

Kansas University football recruiting

Kansas University football recruiting


Thanksgiving in the Kansas football offices became a little happier when the coaching staff received a verbal commitment from a junior college prospect the coaches hope can help out the Jayhawks’ secondary.

Elmore Hempstead, rated a three-star juco corner by Rivals, told Jon Kirby of Jayhawk Slant he reached out to the KU staff Thursday morning to share his decision.

A 6-foot, 185-pound corner originally from Smackover, Ark., Hempstead played his sophomore season at Fort Scott Community College for head coach Kale Pick, a former KU receiver and quarterback.

Hempstead made two interceptions and broke up five pass for Fort Scott this season.

According to Rivals, Hempstead also received offers from Iowa State, Arizona State, Central Florida and other programs, but went with Kansas after hitting it off with head coach David Beaty and defensive coordinator Clint Bowen when attending KU’s junior college combine this past summer.

“I didn’t care about the record,” Hempstead told Jayhawk Slant, referring to KU’s 1-10 mark this season, with one game left to play. “I want to go in and play and contribute to the team and help them win games. I liked the fan base and the family culture. They kept telling me to come to Kansas and it will be a great place for me. Coach Bowen and Coach Beaty have told me the truth about everything.”

The addition of Hempstead brings the current list of KU commitments for the Class of 2018 to 11. He’s the eighth three-star prospect of the group, which has long been headlined by New Orleans prep teammates Devonta Jason, a five-star receiver, and Corione Harris, a four-star corner.

Landry-Walker High teammates Jason and Harris, as well as three-star running back Anthony Williams, from Boutte, La., and three-star defensive end Cartez Crook-Jones, from Grandview, Mo., have been committed to Kansas since February.


John Fitzgerald 4 years, 7 months ago

Tom Keegan said at one point a huge risk with giving Beaty another year is that he could end up bringing in a bunch of JUCO recruits to get results faster since it’s his last chance to keep his job. The problem with this strategy is it doesn’t fix the scholarship issue in the long run and is merely a bandaid. Also, our luck with JUCO and transfer recruits is not good at all as they either don’t stick around or hardly play. I do hope he proves me and the stats wrong.

Andy Tweedy 4 years, 7 months ago

That's all true, but this is just one and it's at a position of need, so I'm not sure it's worth fretting yet.

Jim Stauffer 4 years, 7 months ago

John, Your statement may be true over the past regimes, but the one thing Beaty has done well is select juice players. His success rate is pretty high overall.

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 7 months ago

You’re right my bad. He’s won 3 games in three years. He has to be doing something right.

Micky Baker 4 years, 7 months ago

Time for you to grow up a little. You think this is just black and white. You take the best players that are available and who have the character that the program is looking for, no matter if they're from high school or JUCO. This is not what Weis did. Beaty's lack of scholarship players is the fault of Weis. Passing the buck to another coach in just 3 years is insane. Be patient. It's not a bad thing.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 7 months ago

If Girod does the right thing and spares this university another season of coaching ineptitude, I've come to the conclusion that, of all the candidates out there, Willie Fritz is my favorite.

-He has Kansas ties. -He recruited KC, MO and KS -He recruited Texas -He's currently recruiting Louisiana, he'd keep Hull, and probably increase our chances of keeping the Louisiana commitments we have now

-He's a proven rebuilder. He's moved Tulane forward in two seasons (yes, that is possible) -He's a proven head coach, through years of leading programs

-He has a system that can take advantage of mid-range recruiting. A must at Kansas.

I really think this is the guy for us. Girod needs to make the move on Sunday, have Fritz in place by Wednesday and have Hull and Fritz down to Louisiana the second recruiting rules allow.

This guy could take us to a competitive level, building it the right way.

Beaty has now offered his second consecutive JUCO QB, after recruiting Stanley even though he already had Willis. Now, a JUCO CB. He's doing it the wrong way. Let's get a guy in here who knows how to coach.

Kerby Rice 4 years, 7 months ago

Really like Fritz, his experience with results, and Kansas connection. Would likely be my first choice Sunday as well. A name to keep an eye on would also be Seth Litrell at North Texas. 1-11 in 2015 before he came, 8-3 this year. Not as much experience as Fritz however. GA at KU to start his career in early 2000's, would have Texas recruiting ties being a HC in the state. I've read places he would be the front runner if Tech pulled the trigger on Kingsbury. If there is a move would love to keep Hull somehow. Also with the situation at Arkansas would love Reggie Mitchell back in some capacity. Hull and Mitchell would be 2 great recruiters.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 7 months ago

Litrell would definitely bring a lot to the table. Definitely a high-quality candidate and I agree that keeping Hull may be a must.

Your idea on keeping Hull and adding back Reggie is very creative. Add a strong recruiter to a strong recruiter. This might be a way for us to make consistent strides in recruiting.

Bryson Stricker 4 years, 7 months ago

"Beaty has now offered his second consecutive JUCO QB, after recruiting Stanley even though he already had Willis. Now, a JUCO CB. He's doing it the wrong way. Let's get a guy in here who knows how to coach."

From this point forward I will never take anything you say serious. Carter Stanley was fresh out of high school in Vero Beach, FL. I watched him play. Before Kansas even offered him and was very excited when they did.

Y'all out here complaining about us getting a 3* corner that has two years of playing experience at a position we need NOW instead of trying to play someone way too early. You have NO idea how CFB works, at all. CB is the number one position to get a Juco player from and this was a smart move by beaty.

Side note: your fritz suggestion isn't a bad idea. Still better options though.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 7 months ago

You may have forgotten what was going on when Stanley was recruited. Willis had already committed, Super-Recruiter Beaty came in, tried to recruit over him and ended up redshirting his chosen one because Willis was clearly better. Willis didn't back down, endured a season-long beating, and then Beaty punted on him because Willis wasn't goody-two-shoes enough for Mr. Positive.

Beaty's mismanagement of the QB's and the scholarships at that position aren't even up for debate. He's basically botched it every step of the way, and is doing so again by wasting the scholarship on Bender (which I said at the time was a wasted scholarship if Bender wasn't a two-year starter), and trying to fix that mistake with another JUCO QB offer.

Beaty simply doesn't know what he's doing when it comes to the most important position on the team. That alone, among many, many other things should have had him fired last season, mid-season this year and this Sunday. Maybe the third time is a charm?

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 7 months ago

Proving me wrong again. Beaty is doing a great job. 3-32.

Micky Baker 4 years, 7 months ago

You're not helping your case. The win-loss record isn't how you're going to win a debate. Trust me, you don't want to challenge people who are smarter than you about this sport. You'll lose, and it's not a promise. It's a given.

David Kemp 4 years, 7 months ago

Ok, if we don’t debate progress in wins and losses( which Beaty himself was quoted as saying how you measure year three) then let’s use lowest productive offense of all power 5 schools and highest points allowed of all power five schools and a few historical stats for the wrong reasons. Please tell me what smart people out there can argue for something positive.

Dyrk Dugan 4 years, 7 months ago

Not happening, Beaty is the coach; and will be the coach next year. The recruiting class is good, no need to upset the apple cart now; and this young man continues it. Let’s play hard Saturday, end the year strong, and get ready for the spring. Go Jayhawks!

David Kemp 4 years, 7 months ago

Until the signature is on the paper we have 0 recruits right now

Bryson Stricker 4 years, 7 months ago

Yeah so we are tied for 1st in the country with 0 recruits signed. What significant progress by David Beaty.

John Brazelton 4 years, 7 months ago

If KU is going to take advantage of 20+ seniors next season, we need immediate depth at CB. If we're going to start winning, it will be with a senior-led team and that will be next season. We can't have another season with 34 injuries and very little depth at critical positions. If you want to recruit highly ranked high schools players, it much easier with a winning record.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 7 months ago

This is exactly the wrong strategy. Beaty went for it this year, with 7 home games, wasted a scholarship on Bender, another on Baldwin and another on Charlot. Exactly when our scholarships were extremely valuable, and limited. And we'll be 1-11 Saturday at around 3pm.

Beaty's team this year is older than Baylor's and is barely younger than Texas, KSU and OU. That's right, the OU who currently sits in first place in the conference, with the 6th-youngest two deep in the conference.

We do need a coach who can take advantage of a more mature team next year. A coach who won't panic to try and save his job, who will build his roster correctly, bring a seasoned, stable staff with him and get this program moving forward.

Without a new hire announcement early next week, KU will have the worst attendance in the modern history of the football program. We're minus-20,000 a game this year to our next lowest competitor, and next year it will be minus-30,000 because season-ticket sales will plummet. If Girod doesn't understand that this thing is on fire, then it's clear he doesn't care about football.

Bryson Stricker 4 years, 7 months ago

A scholarship on Baldwin and Charlot is not wasted. Charlot still practiced on offense for a majority of the season, thus making everyone on Defense better. I still hope and pray someone gets their head out of their @$$ and he gets on the field.

Charles helped significantly in his time active on the team with the progression of Dorance. It is my understanding that Charles will be back next year.

"wasted a scholarship on Bender". Since Carter Stanley got jumped outside the Bull for standing up for his girlfriend. Who would you have liked to see lead us into the first 6 games of the year? There was nothing about Bender's film that implied he couldn't complete passes. All they get to see is film, him at juco and him at practice. It's not hard to complete passes when you can't be sacked. As well as, if you knew anything about cfb, you would know every coach tries to recruit someone to replace their current players because that is how you build great culture and push your player's to their limits.

Micky Baker 4 years, 7 months ago

Refresing Bryson. I respect everyone's views, but when they stick to their limited knowledge and never actually learn anything, it get's annoying. They want results now in terms of wins, and it just isn't going to happen. Weis left the program decimated and then Brett tries to compare us to other teams like it really matters. Our youngest guys are the best players on defense save for a one or two. In fact, one of them leads the nation in solo tackles, THE NATION. He's not d-back either. It's going to take time to get all the pieces in place and some just don't have the patience, but it's their problem. They're stressing themselves out over it.

Ron Smeltzer 4 years, 7 months ago

As much as I think Beaty needs to go I think those who say it won’t happen are probably right. He will be just as clueless, and the team just a fundamentally weak, next year as this year, but if it makes the the Administration feel better....When KU falls out of the Power 5 they’ll have nobody to blame but themselves.

I’ll bet this is the first Smackover Buckaroo to play for KU ( assuming he actually does ), but I think the Hempstead’s are from Norphlet.

I hope he actually shows up and plays. I’d have something to look forward to, at least.

[''] 4 years, 7 months ago

CB Stephan Robinson was a juco CB 2 years ago. He had 2 INTs in thre spring game then quit 8 weeks later. We're about 25% success rate with non-freshmen transfers.

Jack Hoff 4 years, 7 months ago

Right now Kansas has 8 guys coming out of high school and 3 juco guys. That’s pretty good balance so far. I’ve yet to see anything that suggests Beaty is starting to take any short cuts. Every college in America gets a handful of juco’s in every class so anybody who sees us signing a 3* player in a position of immediate need is just at the point of no return in their hate for Beaty and his staff. This is great news! Rock chalk!

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 7 months ago

27% of our current recruits are JUCO players. That’s not the average. That’s well above it. At our current state we should be at 10-15% meaning 2 (3 max) out of 20 recruits.

Bryson Stricker 4 years, 7 months ago

Your college degree should be revoked.

Do you even follow KUFB Recruiting or do you just sit back and wait till someone informs you about it? Go look at who we have offered scholarships to. We are below 10% JUCO you dumb POS.

Aaron Paisley 4 years, 7 months ago

3 of 11 committed players are JuCo. Anything under 33% is fine for a place like KU where there is minimal instate talent at the HS level, but a great network of JuCo's in state to pick and choose from.

Dillon Davis 4 years, 7 months ago

Idk how Girod doesn't see what the majority of us see. If he doesn't fire him this weekend or Monday, then he will get fired 5 or so games into next season and then the whole season will be wasted. As opposed to getting rid of him after this season, starting fresh next year with a solid group of upperclassmen (Lee, Wise, Armstrong, Dineen, Herbert, Sims), and building for the future.

Praying that Girod makes the tough but correct move on Sunday or Monday.

Edward Daub 4 years, 7 months ago

Welcome Elmore to the "Close Knit" Jayhawk Family! This is Great News! Take that ISU and UCF!

Jack Hoff 4 years, 7 months ago

Considering the other schools who were on his list, that bodes well for him at least appealing to other coaches at successful programs. Glad he picked Kansas! Rock chalk!

Mallory Briggans 4 years, 7 months ago

Alabama....Ohio State.....Oklahoma... Nebraska....Michigan......Southern Cal Notre Dame...Clemson......just a few Power 5 programs that have had great success.... Name 1 program that would keep a coach with a 3 - 32 record .......They have a winning culture..losing is not expected or accepted......with kansas thats not the least 5 coaches will be fired in the SEC alone .....none would have survived a 3 -32 start ......and given 2 years to get it turned around ... 5 -55 .....thats a possibility.

Micky Baker 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm going to say this, and it is a matter of coaching, but not Beaty's lack of coaching. When we run screens and the pass is behind the line of scrimmage, the other receivers and O-linemen can get out in front and make the blocks before the pass is completed. Our receivers just stand there and don't make the blocks leading to a lot of losses on 1st and 2nd down. Get out and make the block, not just lollygag out there. You get up on the defenders and keep contact for just 5 seconds. In addition, our O-line is very lazy and they don't work hard in pass protection. It carried over to run blocking as well, just pathetic guys on the O-line. The O-line and WR's lack of blocking on screens is a big reason why we don't score points. At times they looked better, but 1 out of 6 or 7 drives isn't enough. Make it 5 out of 7 drives and we'll start winning. Get out and make the block and score TDs. It isn't that hard. If the opponent stacks the side with an extra guy, then change the play.

David Kemp 4 years, 7 months ago

This is all about coaching. We haven’t learned how to block for 3 years now and goes back further to Mangino. Don’t see how some metamorphosis will happen by next year, same kids same coach. Dline also bad at fighting off blocks. Fundamentally this team is just bad. See no improvement in players one year to next. If Beaty is going to stay be prepared to sit thru another dismal season.

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