Thursday, February 16, 2017

2017 PG Trae Young picks Oklahoma

Norman (Okla.) North High senior Trae Young, who committed to Oklahoma over Kansas and others on Thursday, Feb. 16, 2017.

Norman (Okla.) North High senior Trae Young, who committed to Oklahoma over Kansas and others on Thursday, Feb. 16, 2017.


In the end, Trae Young just could not leave home.

Young, one of the Kansas basketball program’s top remaining targets in the 2017 recruiting class, announced shortly after noon on Thursday that he would attend the University of Oklahoma, picking the hometown Sooners over Kansas and Oklahoma State.

A 6-foot-2, 170-pound, five-star prospect from Norman, Oklahoma, Young revealed his choice at a ceremony attended by friends and family at Norman North High.

"This has been a long process for me and (had) a lot of ups and downs," Young said during Thursday's announcement. "In the end, I came to a place of peace and everything came together for me. And that place of peace, for me in the Fall of 2017, will be the University of Oklahoma."

With that, Young slapped on a red OU hat and basked in the roar of his friends and family members that filled the room.


Screen grab from the live stream of Trae Young's announcement Thursday, Feb. 16 in Norman, Oklahoma, courtesy of The Oklahoman.

Thursday’s announcement ended one of KU’s longest recent recruitments, as Bill Self and company had been targeting’s No. 14-ranked player in the 2017 class for years. Young attended KU camps as a freshman in high school and kept in close touch with Self and his assistants throughout his prep career.

Self personally spent a lot of time traveling south to Norman to watch Young play and the Jayhawks rolled out the red carpet for Young on his official visit back in October.

Although the gestures and attention landed Kansas in Young’s final two and made the decision to pick OU very difficult, it was not enough to pry him away from the opportunity to become the face of the Oklahoma program. In Jason Jordan’s recent USA Today article on Young’s recruitment, he quoted Young as saying that Oklahoma coach Lon Kruger “said he’d turn over the keys to the program to me.”

That status not only figures to make Young a big deal at OU, but it also could make him one of the area’s biggest stars and gives his family an easy opportunity to watch him play on a regular basis.

With Young’s future now clear, the Jayhawks are likely to turn their full attention to fellow five-star point guard Trevon Duval, a 6-3, 189-pound IMG Academy point guard who is ranked No. 3 overall and the No. 1 point guard in the 2017 class, according to Rivals. Assistant coach Norm Roberts was in Florida on Thursday to watch Duval, who visited KU for Late Night back in the fall and also has been at the top of the Jayhawks’ wish list in the Class of 2017.

Duval’s Late Night trip was of the unofficial variety, which meant he still had an opportunity to take an official visit any time before he signed. He took that opportunity a couple of weeks ago and attended KU’s home game against Baylor on Feb. 1.

After the visit, Shay Wildeboor of caught up with Duval’s father, who had nothing but good things to say about his son’s experience.

“It was just a great visit,” Trevor Duval told Wildeboor. “The great thing about Kansas was they made us feel like family. We felt like we belonged during the entire visit.... It really couldn’t have gone any better.”

Although Duval and Young are slightly different players from a physical standpoint, the talent level is equal. Both are elite point guards with big time play-making ability who would make an immediate impact wherever they land.

With Kansas slated to lose Frank Mason III to graduation and potentially losing junior Devonte’ Graham to the NBA, the importance of finding a point guard to slide into the lead guard spot for the 2017-18 season is high.

However, sources close to the program indicated throughout the process that the Jayhawks absolutely loved both Young and Duval and would’ve been thrilled to land either.

That fact keeps KU in good shape so long as it can continue its pursuit of Duval, who lists Arizona, Baylor, Duke and Seton Hall next to Kansas on his list of finalists.

Matt Scott, of, told The Journal-World Duval’s recent trip to Lawrence made Duval to Kansas a real possibility.

“The official visit to Kansas very much put KU in the mix for Duval,” Scott said. “Heading into that visit, the popular belief was that Trae Young would ultimately be a Jayhawk. After the visit, though, I think Duval certainly felt that Kansas would love to add him to their 2017 class as much as any player they’ve recruited.”

Duval was slated to make an official visit to Duke for the Duke-North Carolina game last week and also has pegged Feb. 25 as his visit date for Arizona.

The next NCAA signing period runs from April 12 through May 17 so Duval still has plenty of time to weigh his choices and make up his mind.

KU’s 2017 class, which ranks 10th overall according to, is currently made up of four-star combo guard Marcus Garrett (6-5, 180, of Dallas, No. 37 overall) and five-star forward Billy Preston (6-9, 220, of Oak Hill Academy, No. 8 overall).

Both Garrett and Preston signed national letters of intent during the early signing period last November.


Daniel Kennamore 5 years, 6 months ago

Well that's disappointing, but best of luck Trae.

Self is in danger of having his first sup top 20 recruiting class in over a decade now though.

Jay Scott 5 years, 6 months ago

With the potential of a 2017 lineup including Graham, Newman, Vick, Garrett, Cunliffe, Svi, Dok, Bragg, Preston, Coleby and Lightfoot..what other top recruit would hope to get playing time?

Young would have had to battle for minutes. Hopefully he sees how good Graham is this fall.

Jason Brinker 5 years, 6 months ago

Agreed...Self could sign nobody else and that's already a potent lineup for next season. With the possibility of someone like Bragg transferring, one more post player might not be a bad addition. That seems like more of a potential need than a PG.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 6 months ago

Along with Ayton, that makes two of Self's major recruiting targets where we came in second.

As for the guards, we shouldn't forget about Marcus Garrett. His HS,Skyline, is 29-1 and No. 1 in the 6A Dallas area and 3rd in TX rankings. Garrett plays defense as well as anyone. Garrett, a 6'5" PG is averaging 16.3 points, 10.3 rebounds and 8.2 assists per game.

It Graham returns Young would have had a lot of competition to get on the floor, especially in conference play. At OU, Young will be in the staring lineup with no realistic competion, playing for a great coach at home in front of all his family and friends.

Young probably made a good choice for collegiate PT. I'm not so sure he did the best for himself if he wants to develop his potential in NBA quality, quickly...i.e. two years.

Jay Scott 5 years, 6 months ago

Ayton isn't better than Dok. Ayton knew that.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 6 months ago

True...and Preston is a far better athlete for the 4. However, both would have been good for our depth. However, neither wanted to be 'depth'. They wanted to be 'the man.'

Dirk Medema 5 years, 6 months ago

Young won't have trouble developing with Krueger.

Dee Shaw 5 years, 6 months ago

This never seems to be an issue for Kentucky when they sign 5 or 6 five star recruits year after year.

Jay Scott 5 years, 6 months ago

Dee.....they all leave UK. Are you new to all this?

Barry Weiss 5 years, 6 months ago

well, we all saw what a KU veteran team did to a Kentucky one and done team, on the opponents home court.

RJ King 5 years, 6 months ago

Yes, but we also saw what a veteran KU team could NOT do to a Kentucky OAD/2AD team in 2012. It works both ways.

Gerry Butler 5 years, 6 months ago

oh buddy, your smoking some good stuff you thinking Devonte is coming back, you got any extra lmao? SVI 100% gone, if nothing else he going to play ball in Europe, he has said from the beginning THREE years tops. - -really surprised you not all over that. 50/50 chance of Bragg being back. With al the disruptions off the court, lack of playing time would not shock at all if he went somewhere got a fresh start. guess it doesn't hurt to be the eternal optimist good luck with that, then maybe wake up - -back away from the pipe and smell reality

Jay Scott 5 years, 6 months ago

It's so good to have someone with a clear vision of the future......

It's also possible you'll be hit by a car tonight. But who knows...

Craig Alexander 5 years, 6 months ago

Svi said 3 years ago he would only be here three years. That was with the idea of him getting lots of time in year 1 and year 2. I won't count Svi or Devonte out yet. If neither are guaranteed first round, I think they could be 50/50 coming back. Things change over the course of three years if over those three years his plans haven't come to fruition as he originally thought.

Jay Scott 5 years, 6 months ago

Neither are in round one of any mock draft and Graham isn't mentioned at all in most.

Gerry is just a moron troll who likes making drug references.

Barry Weiss 5 years, 6 months ago

no way Svi or Graham go this year. They both know they need another year to develop. Heck, can Svi even buy a beer yet? Good grief, he is staying.

Mike Greer 5 years, 6 months ago

Devonté and Svi are having a good season, but neither has set the world on fire so far. Given what we saw from last year's Jayhawks that entered the NBA draft, I really don't see either one of them leaving, short of some spectacular play yet to be seen. Devonté has played well but he's been very inconsistent from behind the arc and really hasn't taken that many shots in some games. The same for Svi, he's had good games, but in the WVU game, his 4 points and mediocre defense demonstrate he's not yet consistent with either offence or defense. Svi is still very young so he has no reason to rush and skip his senior year and could easily improve his draft status by staying. Devonté would have another shot at having that spectacular season, that I think he'll need to impress the NBA. Do you think Buddy Heald would have been drafted highly without his senior season? It will be Devonté's team.

Tom Jones 5 years, 6 months ago

It's not like Coleby or Lightfoot are legitimate hurdles for a top big man to overcome to get playing time, and there's a good possiblity that Graham and Svi will not be around this fall. Unfortunately, Trae wanted to know for sure that Devonte would be gone and of course we couldn't promise that.

His loss, but he will be THE MAN at OU in a way he would not have been here, regardless of who else is on the 17-18 squad. And play at home.

Craig Alexander 5 years, 6 months ago

I would not sell those two short just yet. One thing that sticks out a lot about Lightfoot is how active he is and how he blocks a decent number of shots for as few minutes as he plays. Once Lightfoot has one solid offseason of weight room and experience, he has the traits that Self likes on the floor.

Teddy Fields 5 years, 6 months ago

Graham should, and will, chase the money this upcoming year. He is deserving of it. That being said, I more than partially agree with your assessment. Newman, Vick, Garett and Cunliffe will be starters. We will get Duvall. Bill would start him and his background QUIETLY suggests KU.... Even though he is "projected to stay east".

Glen Miller 5 years, 6 months ago

At some point we all need to stop worrying about our recruiting ranking so much. If any of you remember Graham and Mason neither one were a top 100 kid. I'm quite certain that none of us have a gripe about landing those two guys. Self will regroup and do what he needs to do, but our cupboards won't be bare next season even if we don't land another player at all..... especially in the back court.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 6 months ago

Mason and Graham were both 4 stars in the final rankings if my failing memory is correct but I agree w/your point. Having plays stick around 3 - 4 years makes a huge difference.

Gerry Butler 5 years, 6 months ago

What?- - did you just not see where we are ranked 10th in the Nation with our recruiting class? - anymore recruits.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 6 months ago

That 10th in the nation is based on landing only 2 recruits. If the rankings included transfers Sam Cunliffe and Malik Newman, it would be a lot higher.

I still think we will get one more BIG although he may be a 'project' type player.

Andy Tweedy 5 years, 6 months ago

I never get too disappointed when potential one and dones go somewhere else. I love having them play for my 'Hawks, but you never really get to know them. Good luck Trae!

Ray Buckingham 5 years, 6 months ago

Not surprised at all. Not so sure it was about staying home. It was much more about that he wanted "the keys to the program" at OU. That was clear from the video earlier this year. He wants the spotlight, not unlike most 18 year olds these days. At KU, nobody gets "the keys to the program." I, for one, am glad to see that when kids come here, they first must understand they are "one part of the program", not the key to it. I have a hunch KU will be just fine.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 6 months ago

As expected. And I also have a feeling KU will be just fine.

Kimberly Wilmoth 5 years, 6 months ago

KU will be fine, but ask Coach Self if he'd rather have Young. So many of these fans, as is typical, no longer sing praise because he's going somewhere else. #1....Graham is GONE. Period. #2....OU has struggled to finish games this year, but go on thinking they have no talent which seems to be a common theme on here. #3....OU will be much better next year, with or without Young. ..So try and emulate your coach and have some class. Joe Baker has ZERO class. Acts like a child who didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. My feelings have nothing to do with how many games he helps OU win next has to do with the fact he's a hometown kid who stayed home for once.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 6 months ago

"OU has struggled to finish games this year, but go on thinking they have no talent which seems to be a common theme on here"

Don't recall seeing that posted anywhere unless the factual statement that he will start at OU and fight for minutes at KU pinched your panties.

"Graham is GONE"

Maybe, but if it were a sure thing, Young would have likely picked Kansas. Unfortunately, I lack your prescience abilities.

"show some class"

Take your own advice.

Janet Olin 5 years, 6 months ago

This clarifies two things for us regarding Trae: 1) if mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy; 2) he wants to be the whole show, center of attention, not part of a team. I wish him well, but KU and fans won't miss him.

Joe Baker 5 years, 6 months ago

I thought he liked to win? Guess not. He will be the man on a team at the bottom of the B12 bball conference.

Big 12 Standings


Kansas 11-2 23-3 ***Trae- this is where winners belong, but you have to compete

Baylor 9-4 22-4

West Virginia 8-5 20-6

Iowa State 8-5 16-9

Oklahoma State 6-7 17-9

TCU 6-7 17-9

Texas Tech 5-8 17-9

Kansas State 5-8 16-10

Texas 4-9 10-16

Oklahoma 3-10 9-16 ***You don't have to compete at all. Just show up.

Enjoy being "the man" on a team at the bottom of the conference. He will need to develop and likely be Hield 2.0 with little to no support in other positions. I will be curious to see how he develops at the D1 level.

Jay Scott 5 years, 6 months ago

Joe. Young will actually start playing at OU next season, not next week.

The Sooners return a ton of Frosh and Soph talent.

Kimberly Wilmoth 5 years, 6 months ago

Joe Baker...That reply is pure sour grapes. If you think for a moment that OU will lose this many games next year, you're a typically deluded fan who is burning inside because he chose OU over mighty Kansas. Your post is uninformed and RIDICULOUS. OU has plenty of young talent, dummy. I wonder, are you an expert at developing DI talent? Or is it just that entitled KU hysteria? Your post is a joke and I'm sure many of your fellow KU fans would disagree with most of it.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 6 months ago

"a typically deluded fan who is burning inside because he chose OU over mighty Kansas"

Feel my blood enraged It's just the thought of losing Trae

A decision made My heart will never mend

And I've been putting out fire with gasoline...

Layne Pierce 5 years, 6 months ago

We might still get Duval, but if we don't we will be fine, it is only a problem, if Graham leaves next year. We only have 2 point guards this year, and next year, either Newman, or Garrett can play pg if they have to. We also might go for someone who is not highly recruited, but can be developed, such as Darrien Jackson from Blue Valley.

Young will move OU up to middle of pack, and then go pro. He wanted a guarantee, and we would not give him one, that was probably the biggest issue.

Kent Richardson 5 years, 6 months ago

Guards are easier to find than quality big men. Young isn't Lonzo Ball but more like the little brother who scored 92 as a gimmick. Scored and then went to half court and waited for the next offensive opportunity. The more I read about him the less I liked his overall game. OU has a lot of young talent coming back so he may win more than we think there. We currently have JJack and may very likely look back on his year here as the best or most impactful one and done we've had. I hope Preston is the real deal power forward we have been wanting for the last four or five seasons. This was Dok's year to move from project to experienced. Having him and Preston in the same learning curve will slow things down. Coleby can be a nice factor the rest of this year and a beast next year to help out. Please stay DeVonte.

Jj Lawrence 5 years, 6 months ago

I'm not sure why, but that whole "keys to the program" comment makes me cringe a bit.

Henry Joseph Hofmeister 5 years, 6 months ago

It makes it sound like the coach is saying 18yr old Trae will be making the decisions over coaches and any other player. That isn't development, it's just playing for a year stopover.

Barry Weiss 5 years, 6 months ago

I know, I wonder if Kruger really said that. I know these one and done's expect to start right out of the gate, but that analogy sort of gives away too much. Oh well.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 6 months ago

Kruger is too good of a coach to ever say that.

Adam Bengtson 5 years, 6 months ago

I love this when kids pick same conference against Kansas. Watching guys like Miles Turner, Jarrett Allen, Trae Young, etc pick the other school, then play against Kansas and lose while their teams have mediocre years.

Andy Godwin 5 years, 6 months ago

It will be good for Oklahoma if he is not a one-and-done player. "Turning the keys over to the program" to kid out of high school for one year does not always help establish a program long term. Look at LSU last year. "Me first type" of players like a Ben Simmons who failed to mesh with his teammates can actually hurt a team (and get a coach fired). Wiggins, Embiid, and Jackson were/are all great one-and-done talents but they were still part of a team. Oklahoma was in the final four last year based on experience and the having the player of the year. If Young stays a few years and develops with their core nucleus of young talent, then Lon Kruger could have another contender in a few years. Further, if Self and staff put this much effort and miles into recruiting Young, then it is likely he will be a team player and ultimately elevate Oklahoma's program next year. Kudos to Self and staff for their effort. I am sure he is disappointed. The least fun part of being a college head coach has to be recruiting 16, 17, 18 year old kids.

Rae Bricil 5 years, 6 months ago

the "Turning the keys over to the program" comment really struck me as well. We are really fortunate at KU that we haven't been in a position where we are handing over the keys to our program to a single incoming freshman. Granted we have had some serious freshman talent come through but don't recall a single freshman being handed the keys which i think says a lot about the year over year consistency and stability of the program--which is obviously evidenced by the current streak.

John Myers 5 years, 6 months ago

Honestly couldn't care less about this. I'm confident in Self to win with whomever we get/have.The attention and hoopla about hoops recruits is tiresome.

Steve Corder 5 years, 6 months ago

Agree. However, is it not a little ironic that David Beaty is throwing the same pitch to top recruits?

John Myers 5 years, 6 months ago

I don't really mind the pitches made by coaches and the recruiting they do. I just don't give a crap when 5 star Bobby Diva cuts his final 17 teams to his final 6 and then his big announcement day is coming up in two weeks and then it's the big day and he has a freaking televised press conference to announce. Far as I'm concerned just sign some kids and I'll see em when they hit the court.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 6 months ago

No KU FB player is getting the keys to the program. EarnIt is still the mantra.

They do see the opportunity to make an impact (Charlot).

Jonathan Allison 5 years, 6 months ago

Just makes for more drama in the race for 14 straight.

Beat Baylor!

Tony Bandle 5 years, 6 months ago

As I posted earlier...Ma Ma always wins. Now we will probably be stuck with a four year player with extensive point guard experience and legit NBA potential. Damn, we have all the bad luck. [oops, better stop...the sarcasm font is overheating].

Trae, you thought Allen was loud, wait till you get here next year. :). All kidding aside, I wish him well and hope he reaches all of his personal goals [except beating KU].

Rae Bricil 5 years, 6 months ago

Also, on a side note i find the KenPom rankings really strange this year. I get they are based on statistical equations that take into account a myriad of factors but the overall ranking seems strange to me. KU is 9th with 3 losses and a SOS of 4. Where as Virginia is 3rd with 7 losses (!) and a SOS of 7. not that any of this really matters but i feel like whatever algorithm is being used must place a lot of weight on margin of victory.

Additionally, i don't believe that Gonz is the number 1 team in the nation. KU will most likely be a 1 seed but barring location and just for arguments sake i would rather KU be a 2 seed in Gonzaga's bracket as number 1 than i would be a 1 seed with Duke (or a few other teams) as a 2,3 or 4.

Jabez Harlan 5 years, 6 months ago's rating system is based on the margin between offensive and defensive efficiency, not wins/losses or strength of schedule. It is an indicator of a team's future success more than a rating system of past success.

Jabez Harlan 5 years, 6 months ago

Good Luck Trae,

This kid has Connor Frankamp and Phil Forte written all over him. 170 lbs? He won't be making an elite contribution to any team immediately. Don't misunderstand, he's good and yes I have watched his mixtapes.

Duval is the better target and he is much more athletically built. I liked how half of the Trae Young article was actually focused on Trevon Duval.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 6 months ago

I could see Graham in particular doing that, and revel in it in a subtle Selfian way.

RJ King 5 years, 6 months ago

What KU team had two walk on starters?

Chad Smith 5 years, 6 months ago

It makes for a fun storyline when the two teams play, but other than that it's not the end of the world. I trust the coaching staff and how they recruit. KU will be in a good position to contend no matter what. Thats how we operate.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 6 months ago

Welp, we'd better hope Devonte chooses to come back for his senior year...

BTW, I live in southeastern Iowa now, so it's gonna be a little harder for me to be a Jayhawk going forward.

RJ King 5 years, 6 months ago

Yes. And . . .

Huh? Jayhawk Nation is world-wide.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 6 months ago

Harder for me to watch the games since I can't afford cable or satellite.

RJ King 5 years, 6 months ago

You'll always be a Jayhawk Bryce. As far as watching the games . . . surely there's a bar or restaurant in SE Iowa with multiple TV sets, where - for the price of a soda or beer - you could sit and watch the game. Good luck to you.

Michael Mulvihill 5 years, 6 months ago

I have lived all over the world and that never stopped me from being a Hawk.

Guam, Italy, Germany, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, and now Minnesota.

Chris DeWeese 5 years, 6 months ago

If he is focused on putting in his time just to get ready for the NBA, then OU might be a better fit for him. Sure, Kruger will allow him to run the show and launch as many shots as he sees fit, but OU will likely not contend for any titles even with the talent they have returning. A trade off for Trae I guess.

David Robinett 5 years, 6 months ago

Geez, I guess we'll take number three over number 14.

Robert Brock 5 years, 6 months ago

Duval is choosing between Duke and Seton Hall. Better recruit Devonte Graham. Save him from the D League!

Dirk Medema 5 years, 6 months ago

Duke needs Duval badly. All the hype over Duke was shattered when the rest of the world realized that they had no real PG. I don't think they have anyone else in this class to date either.

I'm not incredibly confident in Graham or Svi coming back at this point mostly because we have so much of the season to go, and the most important part. If either Graham or Svi goes off in March/April, their draft prospects will increase significantly. That's not a prediction that they will, but it most certainly is a possibility.

What I am very confident in is Coach finding the necessary recruits to form a championship team next year. How many starters have been summer commits, and several weren't even on the radar before Coach revealed their commitment.

Joseph Bullock 5 years, 6 months ago

First of all, an elite PG, having the keys to the program given to him, doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants. Lon is a great Coach and he is gonna run things, but Trae will have a lot of freedom in his system. And Tony Bandle is absolutely correct about basically saying his mom wanted him to go to OU, so she could see him play, all home games! I know this for a fact! And he is a good kid, and his dad is a good guy! However, getting Duval would be fantastic! He can flat out play, and is super athletic! As far as Graham is concerned, I was pretty sure he would be back, until he showed off his great range and athleticism in the WV game, and let the Scouts know that he was simply deferring to Frank! But if he doesn't end up projecting to Round One, he is probably 60/40 to come back! I don't care what Svi said as a Frwshman, he isn't going anywhere without drastically improving his defense and his Basketball IQ! If will be totally surprised if he doesn't come back! Just my opinion on things-not here to argue! Rock Chalk!

Michael Sillman 5 years, 6 months ago

If Duval doesn't pick KU, let's hope that Self has another Towson type commit to flip to the Jayhawks.

Danny Hernandez 5 years, 6 months ago

I've waited almost 24 hours to post because I didn't want to seem like a rejected lover spurned BUT in reality, when I read Trae's comments about Kruger giving him the keys and not at the start of practice but now, I cringed. I never want a student-athlete that falls for that. I don't want Coach Self ever giving the keys to our program to an untested player. Kansas is a team and Trae appears to value being the "man" over winning and a contributing to a legacy.

How many conference titles did Smart at Okie light win? OU couldn't defeat Kansas last year.

I'm not worried because we're always better than ok. Heck, look at Josh this year, he's a team player and he's thriving because he came to Kansas to be pushed, taught and be part of a winning culture.

That's the kind of player I want.

Mike Greer 5 years, 6 months ago

I have to agree. What was the title of the one article, ' I'd like to see Self get Young play as part of a Team' or something to that effect. I live in Oklahoma and get all the Oklahoma sports TV coverage and I'm reasonably sure Young made the right choice for him. 1) he wants to be close to home where his fan base is, 2) he, like so many youth, wants and needs immediate gratification, so he can be the man right out of the gate, 3) he's more interested in him being on display than his teammates and although OU has some good young talent, Young is not interested in sharing the spotlight. Those are difficult spots to change, especially in a year.

I don't know how this effects other potential recruits, but this may work out better for both parties. OU needs the offensive talent and KU has enough other pieces they don't need a one man show.

Ryan Zimmerman 5 years, 6 months ago

$100 says he doesn't lead OU in assists... It's the Trae Young show in this kid's mind. May be a blessing in disguise

Dale Koch 5 years, 6 months ago

Something just not right about high school kids critiquing hall of fame coaches. What do they honestly think they know? OU can have him.

Jay Hawkinson 5 years, 6 months ago

Can't fault a guy for wanting to stay close to home, and it was far from guaranteed that he would start here if Graham comes back. But some of the comments in the USA Today article are annoying. "What point guards has Self put in the NBA?" "Deron Williams and Mario Chalmers." "Yeah but who else?"

  1. I believe that is 2 more than Kruger has (he's had a couple great SGs, but not PGs). This would be a fair argument for picking Kentucky or Duke, but OU, not so much.

  2. If you don't know much about it, the Selby fiasco does look bad. Self played Tyrel Reed and Brady Morningstar ahead of a top 5 recruit, who then slid to the late 2nd round. But look closer and you'll notice that Selby missed the 1st 1/3 of the season (including practice, IIRC) due to an eligibility problem of his own making, and battled a foot injury for another 1/3 of the season. He also turned out not to have a position in the NBA - he couldn't dribble well enough to be a full time PG, and was undersized for SG. Self could've given him a longer leash so he'd have better opportunities to get some rhythm in games, but most of his issues were beyond Self's control.

  3. Sherron was never quite as explosive after the knee injury sophomore year. With his lack of size, that seriously damaged his NBA stock. And I love the guy, but he didn't do himself any favors after he left KU. Struggled to keep the weight off, and had a contract canceled for missing a flight.

  4. If there's one guy whose development could be criticized, I think it's probably Elijah Johnson. He was a very athletic former 5 star recruit. If Self had given him more PG duties prior to his senior year, I wonder if he might've had a shot at the NBA.

  5. I'd say every other PG Self has had lived up to their potential. In some cases (Tyshawn, Frank) they've done more than that.

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