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Thursday, March 24, 2016

Larry Brown helped mold ‘Turg,’ Self

Maryland head coach Mark Turgeon laughs with Kansas radio broadcaster Bob Davis during practice on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at KFC Yum! Center in Louisville, Kentucky.

Maryland head coach Mark Turgeon laughs with Kansas radio broadcaster Bob Davis during practice on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at KFC Yum! Center in Louisville, Kentucky.

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— Wisdom often is passed down from elders to youngsters, experienced veterans to wide-eyed rookies.

And Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self and Maryland coach Mark Turgeon — whose teams will face off at KFC Yum! Center tonight in the Sweet 16 — both had the opportunity to tap into this concept early in their coaching careers while working under the legendary Larry Brown.

Turgeon, a Topeka native who also played for Brown at Kansas from 1983-87, worked for the former Kansas head coach for two seasons after graduation. And Self, who played at Oklahoma State from 1982-85, started his career as a graduate assistant on Brown’s KU staff and wore a suit and tie during one of Turgeon’s final seasons in a Kansas uniform.

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As time has gone by, both have ascended to the top of their profession, along with other Brown disciples such as John Calipari, Gregg Popovich, Kevin Ollie and others. And Self said Wednesday that the opportunity to see basketball through Brown’s eyes did wonders for his development and that of other young coaches like him.

“The fact that you can be around a guy like him early in your career, he can influence you the rest of your life,” Self said of Brown. “You can learn 70 percent of what you’re going to learn in that first year or two just because you don’t know anything, and he’s a wealth of knowledge.”

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Self added that Brown always was willing to share that knowledge with anyone who would listen. He and Turgeon often were at the front of the line for these impromptu tutoring sessions, and both continue to incorporate the things they learned from Brown into their coaching styles today.

“He didn’t hide it from us,” Self said. “He shared it. I guarantee Turg still does the same drills he did with coach back in the day. And I don’t know if there’s more of a sign of respect that a coach could give another coach than actually believing in things that he learned 30 years ago.”

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Heck, Turgeon, whose Terrapins (27-8) advanced to today’s South Regional semifinal with a win over Hawaii on Sunday, even used an old, “really bad” Brown joke during a timeout in that victory. Which one? That he wouldn’t divulge. But he said he shared a laugh about it with Brown afterward.

Turgeon, now 51 and 0-6 all-time against his alma mater, remembers his days as a standout at Topeka’s Hayden High like yesterday.

“Time goes fast,” he said. “I grew up with (former KU broadcaster) Max Falkenstien. Max taught me a few curse words I never knew before.”

He also easily and humbly recalls how he ended up at Kansas.

“I was down on my knees begging coach Brown to take me,” he said. “That’s what it came down to. I got very lucky. There was a coaching change. The coach happened to be 5-11 like me. And thank God they had 15 scholarships back then.”

Turgeon continued: “And it was a one-year deal. It’s like, ‘Hey, you got one shot. If (it) doesn’t work out, you won’t be here next year.’ So it worked out. It just changed my life, obviously, for the better.”

Maryland’s players said their fifth-year head coach does not bring up Kansas or his time with the Jayhawks often. But they are aware of Turgeon’s ties to KU, and a few said the topic comes up a couple of times a year.

“The main thing he told us about was his Final Four experience,” sophomore Jared Nickens said of KU’s 1986 season that ended in the national semifinals. “He was just trying to stress to us how fun it is to be in a moment like this.”

Added junior forward Damonte Dodd: “Someone just showed me a video of him playing, and it was actually hilarious. Everything he talks about as a coach that he wants us to do, especially defensively, that’s what he was doing.”

This week, of course, the focus has been more on the present than the past. And though Turgeon admitted earlier in the week that he would rather not face his alma mater in this tournament, he said playing the Jayhawks has become much easier to stomach than it was back in 2008, when he faced the Jayhawks for the first time during his initial season at Texas A&M.;

“The Kansas thing is not that weird to me anymore,” he said. “It was a little bit that way the first time we played, but you get used to it. ... I’d rather play them in a national championship game than a Sweet 16 game, but here we are, so we’ll play it.”






Comments

Town Thomas 6 years, 2 months ago

Turg is the winner now. He's happy no matter what result comes out today.

Harlan Hobbs 6 years, 1 month ago

My recollection is that he told Larry Brown that he was as good as any of the guards KU had at the time, when he "begged" for a scholarship offer. Am sure that Coach Brown liked his spunk and drive. Obviously, it has worked well for him and his family. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 1 month ago

Harlan.. Not doubting your info but I am curious as to where and how you are able to get some of these golden nuggets inside the basketball team.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 1 month ago

I really like Turg but it looks like HCBS was able to pick up just a little bit more info from Larry Brown.

Harlan Hobbs 6 years, 1 month ago

Marius, maybe I have just been around a little longer, but that clearly was a story line back when Larry Brown ended up recruiting "Turg". It was reported in the Topeka Capital Journal and I would imagine the Lawrence Journal World at the time. My guess is that it was said somewhat jokingly by Coach Brown after Mark played his heart out for KU. The bottom line is that Mark clearly earned his way at KU, and he may actually have been better than the guards that Coach Brown inherited when he took the KU job. I know that it wasn't intended to indicate any cockiness at all on the part of Mark. He is as humble as they come, as his post game comments tonight showed.

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