Thursday, March 26, 2015

KU hits road wooing prep Diallo

Kansas University basketball recruiting.

Kansas University basketball recruiting.


The recruiting battle for elite basketball big man Cheick Diallo is heating up as the spring signing period (April 15-May 20) approaches.

Kansas University coach Bill Self and assistant Norm Roberts reportedly visited the 6-foot-9, 220-pound senior power forward from Our Savior New American High in Centereach, New York, on Wednesday, with Iowa State coach Fred Hoiberg and assistant Matt Abdelmissah apparently headed to New York today.

Pitt coaches were in town to check in on’s No. 7-rated player Monday, with St. John’s expected to visit before week’s end. Kentucky is also on Diallo’s final list.

“Overall, he just keeps improving his game,” Our Savior New American coach Ron Stelzer told, referring to Diallo, who averaged 17.6 points, 10.5 rebounds and 2.5 blocks a game this season for the 22-12 Pioneers.

“He’s been in the United States for only three or four years as of now, and he came over from one of the countries of West Africa (Mali). Because of that, his skill level is not as nifty or refined as some kids that have been going to basketball camps since they were in third grade. But he’s very effective, very talented and is athletic. He runs well, jumps well and shoots well — all of the stuff you like to see.”

Diallo was recently named New York Gatorade Player of the Year for the second straight year. He has been picked to play in the McDonald’s All America Game, Jordan Brand Classic and Nike Hoop Summit.

“Diallo is an outstanding basketball player who does a lot of things well,” Neil Jenkins, head coach at Upper Room Christian School, told USA Today. “He scores, rebounds, blocks, defends. His ability to get up and down the floor is incredible, and he’s got a non-stop motor; you can’t tire him out.”

Transfer on radar?: KU, Arizona, West Virginia, Baylor and several ACC schools have expressed interest in UNC Charlotte junior Mike Thorne Jr., the Fayetteville Observer reports.

Thorne, 6-11, 270 from Fayetteville, has announced plans to transfer and has received his release. Thorne plans to graduate in May, thus will be eligible at his transfer destination immediately.

Thorne averaged 10.1 points and 7.3 rebounds in 26.1 minutes a game this past season. He hit 53.4 percent of his shots and had 29 blocks in 32 games.

“He had a great four years at Charlotte and will graduate. He has improved so much, and that is a credit to Mike and the 49er staff,” Heath Vandevender, Thorne’s high school coach at Fayetteville’s Trinity Christian School, told the Fayetteville Observer.

It is not known if Thorne will change his mind now that the 49ers have hired NBA Charlotte Hornets assistant Mark Price as head coach.

Haase rewarded: Former KU guard Jerod Haase, 40, has agreed to a new, six-year contract at UAB in response to his team reaching the NCAA Round of 32 this season.

Haase, who just completed his third season, will net total compensation of $1 million per year and will be eligible for “incentives tied to the team’s accomplishments on the court and in the classroom,” according to the school website. This past season, Haase’s total compensation reached $625,000, including incentives.

UAB also announced plans to create a new practice facility and upgrade the basketball offices.

“Long-term stability for me and my staff is crucial and represents an important step in moving the program forward,” Haase said. “Our recruits and their families can rest assured that I will be at UAB for the long-term future. Today’s commitment by the administration is a strong statement that UAB wants to be great in basketball. Planned future upgrades in travel, facilities and budgets will be an integral part of sustaining UAB basketball at an elite level.”

The agreement also calls “for an increase in the basketball program’s operating resources, provides for raises for assistant coaches, and pledges an annual contribution to a strategic-investment fund to support the program’s long-term goals.”

“I am thrilled and enthusiastic to now execute the vision we have in place for UAB Basketball in the coming years. I am looking forward to working together with our entire athletic department, our university community and UAB supporters to achieve excellence in the future. I am proud to be a UAB Blazer!” Haase said in a statement.


Suzi Marshall 7 years, 6 months ago

We heard the same motor BS about Alexander. In addition to athleticism, I hope the coaching staff puts a high value on basketball IQ. I agree with Lucas about the mental problems this team had. We don't need or want anymore mentally challenged players on the court running around not having a clue.

John Pritchett 7 years, 6 months ago

I can remember when freshmen were allowed to be freshmen. I remember when Jacque Vaughn, as a freshman, hit a game-winning three. What a delight that was. Nobody expected that much from a freshman. Now we expect them to lead the team, and if they end up being young, inexperienced kids, we run them down. It's a shame.

I wish guys like Alexander had time to mature into the college game before being drafted into the NBA based entirely on potential rather than actual ability and skill, but that's not the reality today.

Suzi Marshall 7 years, 6 months ago

It's not that John. Alexander never seemed to give a damm about playing for Kansas. Numerous times he would barely get above the rim for lobs, several lob passes he let sail over him. He never gave an effort to screen offensively or defend when screened. He never learned the most basic plays and was continuously running his own offense. He as a major disaster bust from start to finish.

John Kelley 7 years, 6 months ago

Other major programs have one and done players giving more than major effort game after game to win. That doesn't seem to be the case as much at KU. Why?

Christopher Giordano 7 years, 6 months ago

A KU team hasn't "cared" since the 2012 Runner-Up Team. Self needs to stop accepting the fact that he takes the blame "it's my fault for not having my team prepared". He said that too much this year. When is he going to start hold the players accountable by sitting them on the bench? Let's start getting back some urgency when they are on the floor.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 6 months ago

Suzi, I understand the frustration, but my take is WE are simply wrong to expect every McD to be like Okafor (who clearly is a OAD). Soooo, so easy to point to Self's past McDAAs who stayed & blossomed into reliable contributors in their 2nd seasons. Perfect examples include Sherron, Chalmers. Darrell Arthur, Cole Aldrich, Brandon Rush. Look at Oubre, he will be better in Yr2 than he is in Yr1, wasnt even able to play the first half of the season.

And, truly regrettably, for someone with your level of understanding of KU's program, but I think you are being too hard on 18-19 yr old kid, Cliff Alexander: Picture this scenario: Self gets a letter from the NCAA, calls Cliff into his office --> and the bombshell goes off not just close-to-home, but actually inside Cliff's own home as the letter outlines suspicion of something Cliff's own mom may have done! Folks, that's MAJOR. You wonder a few games before the announcement why Cliff sufferred a drop off? Yes, he has the facial features of a 30-yr old, some of us have joked, but in all seriousness, he is a kid--> and his whole future is cloudy, and it wasnt even his fault.

Let us hope the best for Cliff Alexander, who cannot just be a kid anymore, being caught up in a very grown-up dilemma. You CANNOT say if none of this had happened, that where his game could have evolved to another 5-6 games down the line...could have used an athletic, 6'8, 240lb dude vs. WSU. Even a statline like 8pts/6rbs/2blocks, and putting a couple of fouls on opposing WSU bigs --> gotta believe such a hypothetical statline could have helped. This hurt KU just like Embiid's situation hurt KU last year down the stretch. KU kids are close, who's additionally to say this wasnt a bit of a downer for the team psyche, even if Self left Cliff in Lawrence (even that fact gets noticed by the team).

We can always be bitter (F'd again by the ncaa or Cliff's mom?), but at least we should be supportive of Cliff Alexander personally, imho. He picked KU. He wants to shine at KU. And if he eventually shines at KU, everything he (& his mom) wants becomes possible...Peace & RCJH.

Suzi Marshall 7 years, 6 months ago

I don't buy the story it was just Cliff's mom. The biggest thing was the lack of effort we saw out of him on the court. Look at his stats his last 6 or 8 games. Review those last 6-8 games and watch only Alexander...pathetic. Why do you think his NBA stock dropped like a rock through February!

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

I have been thinking the same thing about Hoiberg. All he needs is a top 10 recruit to get on the national recruiting map and Iowa State is on its way to taking the next step as far as being a national contender with Hoiberg at the helm. I have to say I respect him a lot.

Billy Derringer 7 years, 6 months ago

Don't think another 6'9 foward is the answer we already have Bragg, we need a damm center.

Robert Brock 7 years, 6 months ago

Bragg is a skilled PF with an excellent ability to score. Not a banger or defender.

Diallo, on the other hand, is remarkable at defending either big position, is a shot-altering, rim protector. He has great lateral quickness for a big dude; all he needs is to be coached. Self would love to be that coach.

As for Zimmerman and Maker - they are 7-footers, but they like to drift out to the perimeter and play small.

Rob Bedford III 7 years, 6 months ago

At this point KU better hope Bragg actually signs with KU.

Glen Miller 7 years, 6 months ago

We do need a center, you are correct..... but outside of Zimmerman (which sounds like he's leaning towards UNLV) we are not after any recruits over 6'-9". Diallo is better defensively than offensively and is said to be a pretty good rim protector. I can handle that, if 6'-9" is all we have left in our pool of recruits. What we want and what we can get, might just be 2 different things for this recruiting class.

Benz Junque 7 years, 6 months ago

Aren't Ivan Rabb and Thon Maker both over 6'9"?

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

Bring us a big man who can play the post, period. We need rebounders who can be nasty around the rim because we don't currently have any on the roster.

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

People wishing for a "5" should at least state who this magical player is because I haven't seen him listed on most of the recruiting sites. You can't just wish the perfect near 7footer to appear if he isn't even in the class.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

Thon Maker and Steven Zimmerman have been bantered about concerning KU, but Thon may end up going over seas while Zimmerman is deciding between KU, UNLV and Arizona, but if Alexander stays we won't get him because he doesn't see how he gets playing time, which I heard from someone who knows Zimmerman. If Alexander leaves our odds of getting Zimmerman increase exponentially.

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

Yes, but as Kenobi might say, "These are not the near 7 footers you are looking for". Both Zimmerman and Maker are not "bangers/back to the basket" type players. Yes, they are tall. But, they are not the type of player this year's team was missing. That's not their skill set. Don't get me wrong, it would be great to have them. But they are not the missing piece to the classic Self "hi-lo" set of which we had a string of up and until Embiid. That type player, at least at the high 4 to 5 star variety is not out there.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

Zimmerman is the most skilled big man in his class both in the low post and from the high post. Inside he demonstrates an extremely soft touch with a high release point that is hard to block. At the high post he can be deadly due to his passing acumen and shooting touch from the elbow. Ideal for any ball screen offense to pick and roll or pop out for a jumper, and any high/low concepts. Because of his mobility he will face-up defenses in the low and mid-post and score. His rebounding has been steady and he is an active shot blocker but must be careful not to take himself out of the play and still play positional defense. He runs as well as any big man in the class.

What part of this would we not want to bring in? A shot blocker who can play to any "hi-lo" set as you mentioned. From footage I have seen, he can post up, and be a rim protector, which we had neither this year. If you are Kenobi, then Yoda chuckles and says, "Bring him in we must.

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

If you noticed in my post, I said I would love to have him in. If you would quit cherry picking his scouting report, you would know he tends to drift to the perimeter and prefers not to bang down low. Maybe you can get that mentality to change, but can you do it in one year? Do you have the patience to see it change? Does he even desire to change it? High school recruits are great because you can project them into anything you want them to be and then fans get all pissy when the actuality doesn't measure up to their fantasy.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

I have a fantasy, but it does not include basketball, but with some imagination I could make it sports related.. Not sure I can share that here though lol. We never truly know how a kid will measure up until they get here, but I want a post player. Now, back to my fantasy....

Ben Simonett 7 years, 6 months ago

Jeff Withey was definitely not a banger and possed little back to the basket skills. but you dont need either of those abilities to be a great rim protector. that simply requires height and athleticism ala withey

Shane Johnston 7 years, 6 months ago

That's unfortunate if Zimmerman sees himself competing with Cliff for playing time. They would fit really well playing alongside one another. If nothing else, wouldn't he share time with Landon?

In a perfect world, Cliff stays, Zimmerman commits and we recruit another point guard. Frank and Devonte would be able to share the court together. Zimmerman splits time with Landon at the five. Cliff logs major minutes at the four and Perry splits time between the four and three. If we got that lucky, I think we'd have to start as preseason number 1.

Unfortunately, I don't see Zimmerman coming to KU. From an outsider's perspective, he seems incredibly close to his mom. Staying close to home seems more important for him than it might for others.

Rob Bedford III 7 years, 6 months ago

KU needs another shooting guard more than they need another PG. Selden needs to come off the bench behind some one who can actually score when it counts.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

That is why I am a big fan of Malik Newman coming here. He is a 2 guard who can handle the rock.

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

And by the way, most "basketball IQ" is a product developed after a couple years in a college program. Very few high school players come to college with an already "high basketball IQ" and most of those that do are point guards. Think back to the Morris Twins. As Freshman people were lambasting them for their "poor basketball IQ" and by the time they were juniors people marveled at the same aspect. Either you guys want to see top athletes at KU, or you want to see the notch below that will stay 3-4 years. Usually you can't have both. This team this year is a prime example of a team that given time, will be a tough experienced team because most of the players are going to stick around, but many of you weren't content to allow that maturation process to happen. Most kids are not "shake and bake" products, even the really talented ones. It usually takes most of them their third year to really "get it". I think everyone's name ought to have a sub handle to it that identifies them as a "best athlete" or "team builder" poster. That way it would be easier to call them out when they flip flop between the two positions. So, instead of pontificating, why not just say, "I'm a KU basketball fan, I don't like to lose, losing sucks, when we lose I'll find the most ready way to bash the most current incarnation as if I really know what the magic formula is, because, you know, losing sucks."

Doug Cramer 7 years, 6 months ago

If he is a one and done...let someone else have him.

Let's go after some bigs that will be greatful for playing at KU...and focus on developing their skill set for 4 years before making the leap to the NBA.

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

I think that's an unfair false equivalency. Just because a one and done player is here for only one year does not mean they weren't grateful for that opportunity. Are you suggesting Embiid wasn't appreciative and grateful? Have you not noticed? This fan base is not interested in a great team every 2 or 3 years. Not every development player is going to achieve beyond his projection. Or, perhaps, you're actually a huge Traylor/Lucas fan and want to see more of that? I like those players, but chances are you're not going to win more with them, even as juniors and seniors. They're great supplement parts, but they are not the superior athlete that most teams need in order to win the whole tournament. Sure, it might get you past the first weekend, but to the Final Four? To actually win it?

Aaron Paisley 7 years, 6 months ago

Joel Embiid is the worst example of OAD you can use because he did not come to KU as a OAD candidate. He developed so much quicker than anybody anticipated that he played himself into a OAD player.

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, but that is what he ended up as. Sorry that the fact he was a one and done doesn't fit your one and done criteria. We haven't had a lot of one and done bigs, so the pool isn't very large to draw from, now is it? Enlighten us then, if we expand the pool of KU one and domes to all, name all such players you don't think were grateful for their time here.

Walter Bridges 7 years, 6 months ago

Aawrong rarely backs up his illogical replies with FACTS.

Walter Bridges 7 years, 6 months ago

Can I just start calling you Aawrong? What difference does it make as to intentions which never once did he say he was staying at KU multiple years? He WAS an OAD. That is a simple fact just as it is with Selden returning though thought of as an OAD when he first arrived at KU.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

We might as well stop recruiting to 50 guys then if you don't want one and dones because you don't always know who is a one and done player. Yes, the McDonald's All Americans these days are often one and dones, but that is not a guarantee either. The majority of the 2013 Mickey D's players came back for a sophomore season. I bet at least half of them come back for their junior year.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 6 months ago

2 FACTS: 1) Jalil Okafor, 7ft, 270lbs, and with near-ready NBA game, able to dominate college from Day 1 are scarce as can be...

2) Self goes after OADs, because just like on his 08champ team with 5 McDs, most of them do not pan out to be true OADs. In fact, the quickest departure was Shady, who left after his soph season, and since he fell out of the lotto, should have come back for Yr3 to improve his stock (and $). The only frosh McD on that 08 team was Cole, and he barely played (other than famously vs UNC), and was very little factor in the 33 wins prior to the Final 4. THAT is the classic developmental timeline, even with Self MickeyDs.

Oh, but here we are, looking to frosh to be the saviors...we are not KY "West", with our playstyle and system.

Self will continue to go after top recruits, knowing that most of them will not be true OADs, but 2 or 3 year guys. Selden could explode next season, and is a perfect example, as are all 5 of the 08 team's MickeyDs.

Benz Junque 7 years, 6 months ago

Embiid was a OAD and seemed to be VERY grateful to play at Kansas. Let's let our snobbery over OAD go away. These kids have all wanted to play and have played hard for Kansas.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 6 months ago

Good of you to say. Got no problem with Embiid, Wiggins, etc, great kids personally...but the point is about executing Bill's stuff on both ends of the floor. Its not "snobbery", but realizing the best thing about frosh is that they gained experience and are simply better in Yr2 than that same kid was in Yr 1. Look at Wiggins, for example.

But, one can also point to an 'OAD' like Josh Selby. If he'd "used" the free publicity and ESPN exposure that KU gets (in a Yr2), no telling how much $$$ he'd be making right about now. Regarding KU...well, we could have used a healthy Selby against KY in the '12 NC game, seeing as we had no bench other than Teahan and KYoung.

Gerry Butler 7 years, 6 months ago

guess I have to update. yes Glen we ARE recruiting the other big other then Diallo., he is 7 ft and re-classified to the class of 2015. Travis, the Magical player that a lot of people are wishing for has been listed multiple times, and is on several recruiting sites not quite sure which ones your looking at maybe you need to change sites. his name is Thon Maker, he is 7 ft very gifted player he is listed as the nu 7 players in rivals since he re-classified and 11th by zagsblog. you can find updates on him a lot off zagsblog plus they have us leading for him at this point but of course a lot of talk about him going to Kentucky. so there you go, there is the name very legit. I would have no problem with cheick like another poster said YES is only 6 ft 9 BUT is very good rim protector and relentless on the boards we are going to have like 3 scholarships available that is if Kelly goes and then of course Cliff we had 1 left over from last year I read soo ok, we had Frankamps but that was taken by Bragg, then we have the one left over, plus Cliff and Kelly so that's 3 would really be nice to get Diallo and maker both but we will be fine how ever it turns out

Jesse Johnson 7 years, 6 months ago

I would almost say we need rebounding more than rim protecting. I can't remember another year where KU was embarrassed so many times on the boards. If Diallo is a nasty rebounder then I hope KU is all in for him.

Another player we are recruiting is Ivan Rabb. I noticed that ESPN has him listed at 6'11", but Rivals has him listed as 6'9". Anyone have an update on this recruit. Could be another great get.

We should still have at least a one or two more schollies. I would like to see us recruit one more elite post player to go alongside Bragg then recruit one or two 3-4 year players (i.e. Darnell Jackson/Sasha Kaun/Russell Robinson).

Travis Clementsmith 7 years, 6 months ago

We're really not going to know about these top big men until after the UK juggernaut announces who is leaving and who is staying. If there is a mass defection of big men from UK, our chances go down significantly to land these top big men.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

From what I heard, if Cliff can't come back or leaves, we get a center because the logjam of minutes clears up. I hate to say it, but I would be okay if Mickelson left to because he has one year left and he hasn't done a lot to impress me. As a redshirt senior next year I don't see him doing much more to be impressive.

Jesse Johnson 7 years, 6 months ago

He would have to graduate to be able to transfer. Same thing with Traylor I think. To be brutally honest, I wouldn't mind if either of these guys were able to transfer to free up spots for players with higher ceilings that we can start to develop.

Yes I know Traylor provided solid minutes at times this season, but it is pretty obvious he has a very low ceiling.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 6 months ago

A part of me agrees with you, but we have invested too much in Traylor for him to leave next year, but Mickelson is another story. I have no idea about his graduating or not, which I have wondered about because he just doesn't fit, especially if we get another post player.

Shane Johnston 7 years, 6 months ago

The effect of a Kentucky exodus could be overstated. The top centers still available know WCS and Townes will be gone and that, based on this year, Calipari would be willing to give them minutes in a crowded frontcourt even if everyone else stays. If Kentucky wins the title, then next year's class will face the pressure of following an undefeated championship season. I can't see top recruits being excited to do that. Chasing a title at KU next year has got to be more exciting than doing it at Kentucky.

Cliff's decision really shouldn't move the needle for Zimmerman at KU. If he's worried about competing with Cliff that tells me KU is out of the running and that he's hypersensitive about playing time. If UNLV was his top choice he would have committed already. It seems more likely to me he's waiting to see who leaves from Arizona. Maybe Kentucky is in play if Lyles and Johnson also go.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 6 months ago

Man, this is a tough crowd! :) Hunter Mickelson, clearly has a bit different toolkit than Landen Lucas, and he isnt afraid to try to use it. I remain perplexed why Self wont play him more, other than the fact he's had rebounds ripped away from him, which of course rubs Self's fur the wrong way. You see the things Hunter tries to do, and he'd be a double-figure scorer, with face-up jumper game for most schools. Him trying a nasty tomahawk jam in the lane recently showed me pretty much his aggressive mindset. I honestly think Hunter is more versatile than Jeff Withey. He's more mobile, same weight, why not play him? We keep complaining about "length", and Hunter is 6'10. He's no anchor, but could prove a valuable piece, if used or allowed to get comfortable.

Michael Bennett 7 years, 6 months ago

If Zimmerman, Maker, and Rabb all fall through (very possible), Diallo would be a good consolation get. Not all 6' 9" guys are the same, and his skillset appears to complement Carlton Bragg's (one's strengths are the other's weaknesses). Maker is a stick in the spokes waiting to happen, IMO. Diallo is a raw, defensive-minded athlete who needs offensive polish before he goes pro, so I think he's 2 years at least. Could be an Embiid Lite who can stay healthy.

Shane Johnston 7 years, 6 months ago

Why would KU express interest in Mike Thorne, the graduate transfer?

Aaron Paisley 7 years, 6 months ago

Why did KU show interest in Tarik Black? Thorne is a big body who can clog the lane and is a more polished low post player than anyone else on the roster. So, why would KU have any interest in someone who could potentially fill one of the biggest needs on the roster.

Ron Prichard 7 years, 6 months ago

Because he's 6'11", 270 lbs and averaged 10 pts and 7 rebs for a D1 school. That is one big dude. I don't know anything about him other than that, but how much would a solid big man camping in the middle have changed this year's team?

Shane Johnston 7 years, 6 months ago

I think both Landen and Hunter could have averaged the same things if given his minutes at Charlotte

Michael Bennett 7 years, 6 months ago

He's got the size we need, he has three years of D1 experience, and he wouldn't affect 2016 recruiting at all. Tarik Black 2.0, plus a couple inches. It's possible he'd help the team more next year than Zimmerman would as a freshman center. And since Zimmerman would probably be done after freshman year anyway, why not take Thorne.

Shane Johnston 7 years, 6 months ago

Getting the transfer decreases the odds of landing one of the remaining five-star centers. While the transfer is a definite OAD, a five-star center is not.

Unless he's clearly an upgrade over Landen and Hunter, why risk unnecessarily alienating those two? I think there are also a lot of fans who are excited to see Hunter play next year, much more excited than they would be to watch a graduate transfer. That counts for something a year after Conner's transfer and after a season with two of the most deflating losses in recent memory.

Another Tarik is the best graduate transfer we could hope for. We lucked out with him. There is no such thing as Tarik Black 2.0.

Michael Bennett 7 years, 6 months ago

I just meant the eligibility/transfer situation is Black 2.0.

Justin Daniel 7 years, 6 months ago

Maker has been rumored to have some eligibility concerns. Zimmerman has three other schools ranked ahead of us on his list. Rabb has Kentucky and California ahead of us. Diallo is our only realistic chance, if Thorne can do anything close to what McKay from ISU did he would be a fantastic.

Mike Riches 7 years, 6 months ago

I like the size of Mike Thorne. It would seem that a free trip to Korea would be pretty attractive to someone like that who's probably not going to make huge money playing professionally.

Carolyn Hunzicker 7 years, 6 months ago

You have a 7 footer.........apparently no one is developing him,,,why did they take him

Ben Simonett 7 years, 6 months ago

I dont understand most of the people on these boards. you all claim you dont want the one and done player yet at the same time you all are asking for a freshman that can come right in next season and fix the front court problems? guess what, the only recruits that would have a realistic chance of making that immediate impact are most likely one and done talents

Vernon Riggs 7 years, 6 months ago

We did fairly well when we played the Morris brothers; they were not true #5's. We did okay when Perry played with TRob. No #5's there. We won a national championship with Kaun and Arthur, neither were true #5. HCBS high/low offense doesn't need a true #5, it uses two interchangeable #4's. If we recruit 6'8"-6'9" power forwards who will play defense and learn HCBS offense, we will be okay. Diallo, Thorne, Lucas, Traylor, Mickelson, Ellis and Bragg can be good if they work hard. Whose name is not included in that sentence?

Then that leaves one more scholarship to pick up another wing or guard.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 6 months ago

Perry Ellis came after Thomas Robinson had already left. They never played together. In fact, the joking around last season was "somebody tell Perry he is manning the Thomas Robinson-position (4man)". Ellis was playing a ton better in Feb'15 prior to hurting his knee. Got high hopes for Ellis next season, but he needs help in the post.

The 2008 starting bigs were Arthur and Jackson. Kaun came off bench, as did Cole Aldrich occasionally as well.

Reggie Flenory 7 years, 6 months ago

don't get your hopes up about Ivan Rabb I have a good friend out here in LA who's from Oakland and went to the same prep school that he goes to and he was telling me that it's near impossible or very rare that you get East Oakland kids who leave the west coast kind of like Marshawn Lynch who went to Cal the word is if he doesn't go to cal he will more than likely end up at Arizona

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