Monday, January 7, 2013

KU athletic director presses case for Rock Chalk Park

Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger listens as new football coach Charlie Weis takes questions during a news conference on Friday, Dec. 9, 2011 at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger listens as new football coach Charlie Weis takes questions during a news conference on Friday, Dec. 9, 2011 at the Anderson Family Football Complex.


If all goes well during tonight’s vote by the Lawrence City Commission regarding land usage and zoning specifications — as is expected — the Kansas University athletic department could begin construction on what has come to be known as “Rock Chalk Park” within weeks.

Speaking publicly for the first time about the potential new complex that would be located in northwest Lawrence, KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger on Monday shared with the Journal-World the many reasons behind the university’s eagerness to begin construction on a $50 million project that will deliver a new home for KU’s soccer, softball and track and field programs.

Those reasons include everything from financial and competitive advantages to important aesthetic and long-range visions for the department. Most critical, however, is the benefit such a move figures to have on KU’s status within college athletics.

“Kansas Athletics, for over a decade, has been searching for a way to address the needs of track and field, soccer and softball,” Zenger said. “Without this opportunity, we would spend the next five to seven, and maybe 10 years, trying to raise $50 million to build these three structures, all the while putting the completion of the renovations to Allen Fieldhouse on hold and, even further, putting on hold the renovations to Memorial Stadium. In light of what we’ve witnessed with BCS-conference realignment over the past several years, that would be the most foolish action that we could ever take.”

Cost advantage

Perhaps the best part, at least through the eyes of the university, is that the $50 million project will cost just $39 million, thanks to the Bliss Sports Foundation, headed by Lawrence developer Thomas Fritzel, which has offered to take the project at a cost of $39 million spread over 30 years.

“We’ve had no one else approach us with that kind of offer,” said Zenger, who added that, as a parent and member of the Lawrence community, he would love nothing more than to see the city’s plans for a rec center at the same location become a part of this project. The two concepts, however, remain completely separate and will be governed by each party.

“They invited us to walk alongside their project about a year ago, so when we found land that fit our needs, we simply invited them to walk alongside us should they so choose,” Zenger said. “From where we sit, we believe that all of these facilities being in one location makes it a more vibrant entity and, more importantly for the city of Lawrence, a bigger economic engine.”

As far as the “Rock Chalk Park” aspect goes, KU Endowment will own the land, Bliss Sports will own the facilities and lease them to KU for 30 years, and, at the end of the contract, all three facilities will belong to KU. Zenger said such a setup is mutually beneficial and the $11 million savings would allow KU to turn its attention to men’s basketball and football, which are the financial lifeblood of most athletic departments across the country.

“As we continue to watch BCS realignment unfold, there is nothing more critical for our future in that equation than addressing the needs of Memorial Stadium,” said Zenger, who added that none of KU’s early blueprints regarding Memorial Stadium renovations included a track around the football field. “Let me make it really clear: This project, whatever we want to call it, allows us to open the door to address the needs of Allen Fieldhouse and Memorial Stadium immediately.”

There also exists the issue of Title IX compliance. Zenger said the mere start of such a project would put KU in good standing in that area, but emphasized that getting a gold star in the annual review of equality between men’s and women’s sports was not the motivation behind the project.

“These young women deserve competition facilities that are equal to their peers in the Big 12 Conference,” Zenger said. “And even if there were no such thing as Title IX they’d still deserve this.”

Would KU still be going forward with the project?

“Absolutely,” he added. “If we’re gonna have a sport and it’s worth having, it’s worth doing well.”

Staying on track

Although upgrades at both Allen Fieldhouse and Memorial Stadium offer tremendous revenue potential, Zenger was careful to point out that putting track, soccer and softball first was not simply a get-this-out-of-the-way-so-we-can-get-to-that scenario.

As it stands now, KU is not eligible to host any conference, regional or national track meets because the existing track at Memorial Stadium is not a true 400-meter track. If and when the new track is built, it will be a state-of-the-art IAAF track, of which there are only a handful in the country. Zenger said would return the luster to KU’s historic track programs.

“This will allow the Kansas Relays to become once again what they used to be,” Zenger said.

Moving forward with the current setup is the equivalent of the men’s basketball program playing its home games at the Horejsi Family Athletics Center.

“So many people think that we need and want to get that track out of Memorial Stadium because of football,” Zenger said. “And they are absolutely correct; we need it out of there. But first and foremost we need it out of there for track and field. It’s been too long, and, when it comes to competition sites, this project is our greatest undertaking since the building of Allen Fieldhouse, preceded by the building of Memorial Stadium.”


Laurence Cooley 9 years, 8 months ago

i am all for this project getting started. it helps the olympic sports and the athletkc department as a whole.

p 9 years, 8 months ago

It's fantastic news. This significantly benefits KU's AD, the school at large, the city and will undoubtedly lead to increased revenue and standing in the long-term for all three. Outstanding job by Sheahon Zenger. RCJH

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 8 months ago

Spending 39 million on three sports that nobody cares about?!?!

9 years, 8 months ago

nobody > aspersioncastingexperience

KGphoto 9 years, 8 months ago

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world. It's just you and a handful of other Blutarsky wannabes that don't care.

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 8 months ago

That's like saying rice is the worlds best food.

KGphoto 9 years, 8 months ago

Probably the worlds most "popular" food. I didn't qualify soccer as "best". Being the worlds most popular food means a lot of people buy it. Even in Lawrence.

Stephen Johnson 9 years, 8 months ago

If soccer = rice. Give me more rice please. :-)

741hawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Has to . . . so we can finally get the GD track out of Memorial Stadium..

Ben Kliewer 9 years, 8 months ago

Simply saying "nobody cares" isn't really the point. Sure, soccer, softball and track aren't the big revenue sports, especially at Kansas, but they can bring in a lot of athletes and overall sport attention (corporately) that the university can utilize in supporting the bigger revenue sports. There are things to think about like Title IX, and overall sport performance of a school (as opposed to only football and men's basketball) that directly affect an institution's ability to field competitive teams and facilities in the big revenue sports. We're not going to get the track out of Memorial, build a successful football program, and compete with the rest of the BCS conference schools without spending money on stuff like soccer and softball. That's the rub.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

You missed the part "about eligible to host any conference, regional or national track meets".

Every business person in Lawrence and the surrounding area should care a lot about it, because in addition to the week of the Relays, those post-season events are a week long also. That's a week of rooms and meals and fans and entertainment. It may not be 8 home games worth of 50K+ fans, or 20+ x 16,300, but you bet it is significant to a LOT of people.

John Mueller 9 years, 8 months ago

At the risk of catching serious flak for missing an entire paragraph or two.....

Did I miss where this facility would be located? What kind of amenities would exist from a fan experience, facilities for athletes, etc.???

I love me some Matt Tait, but this story seems like a rough draft without the critical information about the actual facility and, frankly, some insight as to what is in store for both Memorial Stadium and AFH in terms of upgrades and timing....

Tim Orel 9 years, 8 months ago

You didn't miss it in this story, but there was something a few months back, IIRC. I think it was to be out west of town towards the exit off I-70 exit for the Clinton Parkway. A long ways off campus, but with lots of room for facilities. I think Free State HS was also going to have a benefit from it, too.

B0B 9 years, 8 months ago

You should try reading more than the sports page. this story has been going for months.

B0B 9 years, 8 months ago

I'm too lazy to do your research. I was just pointing out that there have been dozens of writeups on this thing. There was something just yesterday. My point being that it isn't fair to call out Tait for not rehashing what has been posted on this site time and time again for months.

Matt Tait 9 years, 8 months ago

The location should've been in there. I'll add it now. It's in northwest Lawrence out near Free State High but has no connection to Free State.

As for the specifics on the new facility or the potential upgrades to Memorial Stadium and AFH, those plans have not been finalized yet. Zenger said that would/could be for another article down the road. One step at a time, ya know?

Code_2008 9 years, 8 months ago

Wait, is it west of that Wal-Mart up there? They've been flattening and moving lots of ground right by it. Right now, it's just one giant 15 acres of dirt and mud it seems.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

Take BOB' s advice and go read old articles on this matter because there is plenty of info out for those who are willing to take a few minutes to do so.

hawkfansa 9 years, 8 months ago

Matt, I'm an old Missouri State grad and adopted KU fan living in San Antonio. My son graduated from KU several years ago and my daughter loved the school so much she's currently in her junior year there. My point here is that I'm heavily invested in KU and would like to give my .05 cents of opinion. If the new facilities for soccer are the first step in attaining renovations for memorial stadium, run to this deal don't walk.
By the way, my son being an industrial design graduate had a cool suggestion for the stadium. Along with added suites how about an exterior elevation resembling the Bejing bird nest stadium with a huge menacing Jayhawk at the east end of the stadium.

johnnyphoton 9 years, 8 months ago

And when KU loses a game the huge, menacing bird lays an egg? Awesome!

Eric TheCapn 9 years, 8 months ago

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with one-twentieth of a cent? You need to start valuing your own opinion a little more, buddy!

And that's my two-cents worth.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

The stadium has N & S ends, with E& W sides.

Sort of like end zones and sidelines.

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 8 months ago

Let me do the math

$39,000,000... those 3 sports make a profit of X a year... carry the 1= -infinity years until those sports pay off their facility.

bigjaybabyjay 9 years, 8 months ago

KU Relays + Big 12 Championships + NCAA Events/Championships + US Olympic Trials. Yes, it is possible to recoup expenses.

John Beck 9 years, 8 months ago

apherse, I generally get your responses as ridicule or simply offering an opposing view. Here you have completely whiffed on the big picture. Minor sports and title IX are not going away anytime soon, like never, so this not only works but is truly a best case scenario as designed and funded. That is all.

flyingfinn 9 years, 8 months ago

Totally agree!!!! 1. Title IX sports are part of the college environment of every notable campus in the country and should be. 2. Track and Field are part of the proud tradition of KU that includes many Olympians and world record holders of their time. 3. The track does need to be removed from Memorial stadium to upgrade that facility properly.

My only concern is the location that far from campus. We have attended many woman's soccer games and while parents and family of players will always be there, how many students will get in a car to attend versus the ability to walk there from closely located dorms? Same would hold true for the other sports moving.

Tad Shurtz 9 years, 8 months ago

UCLA students have to drive 25 miles from campus to watch their football team play. I realize it's all relative, but it's really not that far.

KGphoto 9 years, 8 months ago

OMG! Imagine how empty Memorial would be if it were 25 miles from campus?

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

Mbe students would stay for more than half the game.

Reuben_J_Cogburn 9 years, 8 months ago

How did you come up with half a billion dollars to upgrade Memorial? Did you get that info somewhere?

Stephen Johnson 9 years, 8 months ago

yep. and I'm all in. Great job AD Zenger!!!

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

In what world does cost half a billion dollars to give the stadium an adequate facelift? Baylor's new stadium costs half that and is in the same ballpark for seating numbers as KU. The expensive part of Memorial renovations will be the removal of the track and any reconfiguration to the seating in the bowl. All exterior upgrades can be done for $10-20 million if that. Guaranteed renovations to Memorial Stadium itself do not cost more than $75 million.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

In what world does your idea cost half a billion dollars? Demolition work is much cheaper than new construction and Baylor's new stadium is the benchmark price for stadiums in the 50,000 seat neighborhood.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

No need to expand the footprint. Infact, bring the sides in and make them steeper = smaller footprint.

Carter Patterson 9 years, 8 months ago

Why is anybody arguing with their "ahole"perse.? He's just ruffling feathers....With his logic, no money should be spent on anything other than Men's Football and Basketball since nothing else pays for itself. He has no understanding of the macro economics at play here. Title IX is here and we will live with it. Since we are going to live with it and compete in a conference to attract students nationwide, let's be good at it.

johnnyphoton 9 years, 8 months ago

ah....: KU should pay whatever amount it takes to get that freaking track away from the football field.

WCKU82 9 years, 8 months ago

It's the cost of doing business. You can't have men's football and basketball without title IX sports. So attribute this cost to football/basketball and get over it.

Kyle Rohde 9 years, 8 months ago the new softball complex built less than ten years ago was a waste of money apparently but this does sound like a great plan.

My question on location though - why does it have to be way out by Free State when the University has such a huge swath of land between Iowa & Kasold/23rd & Bob Billings Parkway? The number of students attending track meets, soccer or softball games will be minimal with a location so far away, I would think.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

The ground out there is flat. The west campus property would have to be leveled out which is time and money.

Ryan Gerstner 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't think the current facility is a waste of money. They can use it for practice if want. But who knows, maybe they have another use for the old soccer and softball field? I'm guessing practice, but maybe they have something else in mind. I don't think student attendance will be impacted that much. How many actually go? I can tell you I went to a grand total of 0 during my 4 years, but a 10 minute car ride isn't much of a deterrent.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

Actually it is nobody doesn't attend track meets, soccer or softball games, as in you (nobody). Get a conference or national event, and there will be lots of peple attending. Maybe not 300 to 400k (BB & FB), but there will be plenty.

But if you actually read and comprehended the article you would see Dr. Z commenting that if you are going to do something/sport, it is worth doing right. What we have now is not right, so it needs to be fixed, regardless of whether you attend or not.

Left_of_Lawrence 9 years, 8 months ago

I believe the land for the site, which is north of 6th street and west of George Williams Way, was donated by a KU alum.

The development plans are Big. It should help KU and help the community, kind of like how the Lawrence Indoor Aquatics Center helps Free State and the whole community, but bigger. I'm looking forward to running or riding the trails along the creek at the north end of the development.

The bottom line of KU Athletics fans is do you want to compete in Division 1, or just be a member of Division 1.

Let them get started on the development. Go KU! Go Lawrence!

Steve Hillyer 9 years, 8 months ago

I found it interesting how Zenger mentioned realignment more than once in this article. Also, wasn't there suppose to be a small indoor arena as a part of this project? I am hoping an ice rink can be a part of it.

Reuben_J_Cogburn 9 years, 8 months ago

Do it.

We've voiced our opinions till we've turned blue in the face. Everyone is in agreement. The track in Memorial needs to go. At first, my opinion was we need to win first before renovations, but my vision has been skewed.

Now I'm leaning more towards a "build it, and they will come" point of view.

LSD 9 years, 8 months ago

Build it fine, but the track and other facilities better be open to the public. If public tax dollars are going for a facility it needs to be open and not some protected part of the K.U. athletics kingdom.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

Doesn't sound like public money is being used for this project based on this article.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

maybe the part that is alongside the KU facilities.

Are the tracks an stadiums at the local schools open to the public? Go use your tax dollars.

Dave Coen 9 years, 8 months ago

I care about Track & Field and remember, K.U. has great Track & Field tradition:

Indoor Track & Field National Champions: 1966, 1969, 1970 Indoor Track & Field Runner-up: 1973, 1975 Women's Indoor Track & Field Runner-up: 2012

Outdoor Track & Field National Champions: 1959, 1960, 1970 Outdoor Track & Field National Runner-up: 1956, 1958, 1969

Tony Bandle 9 years, 8 months ago

I think I understand ahperse's frustration but these facilities are part of the necessary landscape of a top-rated college campus.

If I might offer a parallet comparision, ADA Accessibilty requirements cost 100's of millions of dollars in construction every year while being used by a very small precentage of the population. HOWEVER, these amenities are being used and are dictated by law, thus justifying the expense.

One must consider the price of these non-revenue facilities as " the cost of doing business" as a college campus as dictated by national policy.

Regarding the track, 35 plus years of architectural practice tells me that this "little undertaking" won't get done in the nine month time frame between football seasons, so there is the whole question of where we play unless we bunch a whole schedule of away games at the beginning of the season. Little details like this need to be worked out, so building the facilities now will buy some "design" time, for sure.

Reuben_J_Cogburn 9 years, 8 months ago

Bottom line: These facilities are the crucial first step toward renovations to Memorial Stadium.... deal with it, ahperse.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

Build it in thirds.

Shift the whole field 10-20 yards west to start yr 1, and rebuild the east stands. Rebuild the north endzone in year 2. Rebuild the west stands in year 3.

Yes, the transitions and interfaces for 2 seasons could be tricky, but still very doable.

Hurinfan 9 years, 8 months ago

Is there anyway that this would hurt the Kansas relays in any way? It's nice having a facility for it but I always enjoyed having the relays in the heart of campus and in the center of town. I though it gave it a certain flair.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

If anything, it'll help the event. I don't know what the capacity will be for the running events because those designs haven't been made public yet, but it'll be smaller grandstands than Memorial obviously. Having an up to date track that meets current standards should help attract more wlite runners to Lawrence and it sounds like the new facilities will be good enough for Lawrence to be in the running to host the NCAA outdoor championships and possibly olympic trials which would be a huge deal. The only con I can really think of will be seating capacity will be lower, and everything else should prove to be positive over time.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

The setting in the stadium is the best, so it hurts moving it in that regard, but that in no way compares to the hurt of having sub-standard facility. This is a huge positive for the Relays, Lawrence, and mid-western running.

Chad Dexter 9 years, 8 months ago

This sounds great. A step in the right direction for removing the track from Memorial Stadium is a good thing, IMO.

I see that this article is dated yesterday. Any word on whether the vote passed for this park?

Matt Tait 9 years, 8 months ago

It posted yesterday (last night, actually) but the vote is tonight (Tuesday)... Check later this evening for Chad Lawhorn's story from the meeting.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

It was approved, and the Relays will be there by 2014.

That might mean that renovations to Memorial could begin that summer as well.

Brandon Deines 9 years, 8 months ago

Has a construction timeline been discussed? If they break ground in the next few weeks, can they compete in the facility in spring 2014?

Matt Tait 9 years, 8 months ago

18-24 months from the start of construction, I believe...

mahkmood 9 years, 8 months ago

I thought Matt's article a few weeks ago suggested the Big12's GOR made the conference rock solid, and that adding new teams probably wouldn't make financial sense. So why is Zenger mentioning conference realignment so much? The B1G rumor is that Delaney wants to get to 16 or 18 soon, so that the new B1G tv network deal can be made. If KU is not interested in leaving the B12 for a better home, which could only be the B1G or SEC at this point in time, why would Zenger even mention realignment? Why not just say, "This will allow us to improve the basketball and football facilities"? Either he's using the realignment issue to blow political smoke to get the deal approved, or KU is improving its CV for someone bigger and better.

Reuben_J_Cogburn 9 years, 8 months ago

I doubt he would be so transparent about it if conference realignment was imminent. We shouldn't read too much into his statement. I believe the point he was trying to make is that it's important to have the proper facilities in place in case something like that were to surface again...along with the obvious benefits these additions and renovations can bring to university.

But he wasn't implying that any change will be happening in the near future.

Marcia Parsons 9 years, 8 months ago

I thought all he was saying was that the realignment process had shown everyone how important football is to conferences, and it would be foolish not to make our facilities top notch.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

Big 12 expansion isn't totally dead yet. Pending the Maryland lawsuit, Florida St. and Clemson reenter the picture for the Big 12 because those two teams legitimately add value to the conference. If those two schools are not options, then the Big 12 is safe for a decade until the GOR becomes less of a hurdle for teams wanting to leave the Big 12.

jayhawkarmy 9 years, 8 months ago

Why don't we use the money to fix the football stadium!?

Ben Kliewer 9 years, 8 months ago

Because we can't get the track out of Memorial Stadium until we build another track and we can't build another track without building another track.

mojayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Read between the lines. This is a stepping stone, a precursor to upgrading Memorial Stadium. Long overdue.

dynamitehawk 9 years, 8 months ago

I wonder if they will sell commemorative chunks of track... If they do I'm going to buy a bunch and in the spirit of Memorial Stadium, and build a tiny track around something and make people a confessional or something.

mahkmood 9 years, 8 months ago

Zenger should use this project's budget to get some home gym equipment

John Mueller 9 years, 8 months ago

Now, I'm sorry but that there is funny!!!

I saw the old fart at AFH the other day.

Kind of shocked that he's welcome.

I would like to audit his Williams Fund contributions, though...

And, Dear Bob,

Sorry but I read the LJW for sports, if I want to read a real paper, I read the WSJ.

Sorry I was not up on Lawrence community news, but this here thing is the Internet and if you write a story about a KU sports breakthrough and don't even bother to talk about the details, why write the story?

And, if the story has already been written, then why write a bad story about the old story????

Now, is the Kid from Hawaii gonna commit or not?

Or is that also in the community section?

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 8 months ago

The kid from Hawaii said he was going to wait and see and discuss with family.

I think it will be a while before we know.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 8 months ago

Matt, my apologies for straying way off topic but what is the status of the new construction for the Naismith's Rules?

Are there preliminary plans or even schematics? Any idea on construction start? Just askin'...thanks.

Matt Kenton 9 years, 8 months ago

AWESOME news! Zenger just showed he is an AD that truly "gets it." The fact that he has been working behind the scenes on this and found a way to get it done affordably and quickly just earned him a huge amount of trust from me.

Greg Ledom 9 years, 8 months ago

Dr. Zenger took a fair amount of crap for not being a big/quality/experienced enough hire when he came on board. All he's done is kill it since then. RCJH Dr. Zenger!

Chris1955 9 years, 8 months ago

I not guaranteeing that the B1G is going to extend an invitation to KU to join; however, if a prospective invite was in the future, what would KU need to do to ensure an invitation?

Would KU have been told to turn the football program around ASAP? Would you necessarily hire Charlie Weiss as HC if you didn’t need to get a quick fix? Would you be handing out scholarships to so many JuCo's if you didn’t need a quick fix? Would you be upgrading Memorial Stadium, by removing the track, and sprucing it up if you weren't trying to meet a timetable?

Yes, you can make an argument that these events do not mean there is an ulterior motive for them. I understand that we're also tightening our admission standards as well.

We know the B1G seems to be following some "rules" regarding new members. These "rules" seem to be adding contiguous members, adding new TV markets, and adding AAU universities. KU meets these minimal conditions.

I can see KU becoming the 15th member of the B1G, and believe it or not, Mizzou comes along as the 16th! Yes, I'm probably hallucinating.

hawkfansa 9 years, 8 months ago

My son a graduate of the industrial design department had a cool suggestion. Whenever the improvements to memorial stadium come into the discussion, why not design the exterior like the Bejing bird nest stadium. Additionally, a large menacing Jayhawk atop the seats in the east end of the stadium would be fun. Possibly add in some sound effects when KU scores.

JayHok 9 years, 8 months ago

Is this the first we've heard about track removal? The track team must be excited they will be able to finally host real meets.

Very happy the administration has their eye on the ball and is sharing this with the Jayhawk fanbase, alumni etc. What a breath of fresh air.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

No, old news really, tho never this imminent.

danmoore 9 years, 8 months ago

Is there no place on campus this could be built? It really diminishes the appeal when you have to drive there as opposed to walking from a dorm.

JayHok 9 years, 8 months ago

Down the line how great would it be for the new exterior on the filled in side to match the campus. Think the natural history museum.

JayHok 9 years, 8 months ago

Over/Under. The track will be removed in time for 2015 football season.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

Under. The Relays will be held at the new track in 2014 - confirmation article.

Lanny Welch 9 years, 8 months ago

Hope the complex is started tomorrow and the upgrades to the football stadium start next week.

Brandon Pope 9 years, 8 months ago

From Jayhawk Slant via Twitter

Lawrence City Commission passes 20 acres, 90 acres, and special use permit.

kranny 9 years, 8 months ago

It ain't about the money. To be honest, few universities actually make a profit from the athletics program as a whole. Out of the 119 fbs schools only about 19 make a little profit. The main reason for numerous athletics is prestige which vicariously results in large donations to the universities. The only sports that typically generate a profit are football and basketball. The rest fall in the red. Read the following:

kranny 9 years, 8 months ago

Point being, go ahead and build it because it will look cool and we keep up with the Neighbors.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

40 years, since the last T&F championship, and the conversion to meters/international standards.

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