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Friday, June 22, 2012

Chalmers 2nd Jayhawk with NCAA, NBA titles

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Former Kansas University guard Mario Chalmers of the Miami Heat joined Clyde Lovellette Thursday in becoming only the second Jayhawk to win an NCAA championship and an NBA title.

Lovellette, who won an NCAA title in 1952 with KU, won NBA titles with the Minneapolis Lakers in 1954 and the Boston Celtics in 1963 and 1964. Chalmers won an NCAA title with KU in 2008 to go with the Miami Heat crown.

Chalmers becomes the 10th Jayhawk to win an NBA title. Others: Lovellette; Wayne Simien, Miami, 2006; Maurice King, Boston, 1960; Wilt Chamberlain, 1967, Philadelphia and 1972, Lakers; Jo Jo White, 1974, 1976 Boston; Bill Bridges, 1975, Golden State; Jacque Vaughn, 2007, San Antonio; Paul Pierce, 2008, Boston; Scot Pollard, 2008, Boston.

Comments

Steve Quatrocky 10 years, 1 month ago

There is a rings display at AFH that already includes a Miami Heat NBA Championship ring, donated by Simien. And the many Big 12 Champ rings are incredibly impressive given that Max Falkenstein donated his and he was with the program longer than anyone.

kellerman411 10 years, 1 month ago

Mario is so explosive and talented. I really don't think the Heat could have done it without him. Some of the things he does out on the court make you want to pull your hair out but he's worth having out there. He's the fourth best player on that team.

What worries me is that Miami may see good potential trade value in Mario if Norris Cole can play his position and it's looking like he can. After the game 4 performance, I think he cemented his place on that team but you never know. It would be really cool if the Heat took Tyshawn like Yahoo projects them to.

JHawk06 10 years, 1 month ago

I'm not sure if it would be his choice or not. Chalmers will most likely be looking for a decent payout with another team since he is so underpaid currently. (have to pay those 3 stars so much) That along with the attitude some players are giving him makes me think a trade is 95% going to happen.

Scott Murphy 10 years, 1 month ago

I sure hope that mario gets traded this off season, I hate the Heat and hate the fact that Mario has to play alongside those Arrogant Pompeous A_Holes.!! He could be a star on many other teams in the league. I also hope that Tyshawn does not get drafted by the heat, this would not be a good situation for him at all!!

kcn18 10 years, 1 month ago

Don't get me wrong I like Mario but he seems to be the most Arrogant one out there

HawkKlaw 10 years, 1 month ago

Mario already is a star on the Heat. There's just 3 other stars that are brighter than him on the team right now. Don't get me wrong, Chalmers is one of my all-time favorite Jayhawks. But to compare his talent level to that of Wade or LeBron is foolish. Those guys are future hall of famers. Mario will always be a "good NBA player", but he won't be one of the most elite players to ever play in the NBA like D. Wade or LeBron. I get that you think they're egotistical a-holes (I do too), but really if you play in the NBA and don't believe that you're the best you will never be the best. D. Wade and LeBron definitely have egos, but to be on their level in the NBA you have to think pretty highly of your skills.

Spencer Goff 10 years, 1 month ago

Garnett actually commended Pollard for playing him tough during practice, which I thought was pretty cool on KG's part.

jaygirl193 10 years, 1 month ago

If you consider coaches to be Jayhawks too, you must include Larry Brown.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 1 month ago

That list is not very long....

Larry Brown... No other coaches have completed that feat.

connhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

Man, LeBron gave half his career to Cleveland and the Cavs never managed to give him solid teammates. Remember when he carried the Cavs to the NBA finals by himself? The rest of the starting lineup: Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Drew Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic, and Larry Hughes. I know we love Gooden here, but that is just not a championship-caliber team. Is he supposed to just waste his whole career being a one-man team for the Cavs? MJ never had this problem because he had Pippen (and Rodman) and a cast of solid role players. Magic never had this problem. Bird never had this problem. Shaq didn't have this problem.

The Cavs wouldn't/couldn't build a decent team for him, so he decided to just make one himself.

Scott Murphy 10 years, 1 month ago

They would have eventually brought in the pieces and were always trying, Lebron just didn't have the Balls to do the right thing and stick it out. Instead he runs like a coward to Wade and Bosh, this is why he will never be one of the greats!! This along with his Arrogance makes him completely unlikeable. I always hope that he will tear an ACL some day so that it might humble him a bit although I don't know that this is possible.

justanotherfan 10 years, 1 month ago

You don't have to like Lebron or support what he did when he left Cleveland. You can trash the Decision and the Heat welcome party and all of that stuff.

However, if you watched these playoffs and saw the level at which Lebron played, particularly from the middle of the Indiana series on, and you don't think he's one of the greats you are letting your bias affect your basketball watching.

I never rooted for Jordan's Bulls, but those teams were great. Never rooted for Bird's Celtics, but those teams were great. Was never a Shaq fan, but he was as dominant from 97-04 as anyone has ever been. You don't have to be a fan of a player to recognize their greatness, but if you aren't able to see the greatness, you aren't really a fan of the game.

royals85 10 years, 1 month ago

Haters be Hatin. How can you not like LeBron, one of the funnest guys in the NBA. He is alreay one of the greats and this is coming from a Lakers fan. Take your hater shades off and enjoy watching him play, just dominate.

Hoping a guy tears his ACL is real classy, you sure you are Jayhawk fan?

jayhawk92 10 years, 1 month ago

I agreed with you until you said "I always hope that he will tear an ACL." Seriously?

RockChalk1225 10 years, 1 month ago

Run like a coward to Wade and Bosh? Did you watch a game in this series? Wade was awful, Bosh was above average but not great by any means. Cleveland would have eventually brought in the pieces? No. Hope he tears an ACL? Classy. No one blames Jordan for having a top 50 all time player on his team and role players much better than anything Lebron has had.
Congrates Mario!

Freedman Moor 10 years, 1 month ago

Lebron James chose common sense. Name one champion with the Cavaliers organization. Miami had Pat Riley, Wade, Haslem, and Chalmers.

Vow? Substantiate your claim with any sort of evidence. What did James "vow" to Cleveland and when did he do it? If James blew out his knee and became average, would Cleveland show loyalty to James if a better player were available or would they make a business decision?

Would you be willing to become the NBA's Marino during the age of social media, where any self-proclaimed expert can broadcast their a-hole worldwide?

And certainly, you are man enough to call Lebron a bitch to his face. Right? Sure you are.

Sam Constance 10 years, 1 month ago

I have a hard time buying the "that's not a championship-caliber team" line, because it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy and depends so much on what the non-stars end up doing.

Just look at Miami's team this year--if Shane Battier doesn't go unconscious from three during the Playoffs, it's likely that Miami isn't celebrating their title win today. Contrast that to the Cavs team you referenced--Larry Hughes is at LEAST on par with Battier in terms of skill--but since that team didn't win the championship, we look back in hindsight and say things like "that's not championship-caliber team".

Any team that makes it to the NBA Finals is a championship caliber team. Any team that finishes with the best record in the NBA in consecutive seasons is a championship caliber team.

The point is really that The Cavs were active (perhaps overly so) in trying to put a good team around Lebron. They were making trades, FA signings, and doing whatever they could to get him help. At what point does the responsibility for leading those roleplayers to be solid fall on the team leader?

Plus, the point can be made that the Cavs team that reached the Finals wasn't even really READY to be there. They got there a year early. And in the next season, the management made a huge trade at the deadline to get Lebron some help.

And I think the point here is that Lebron gave up. Rather than doing it organically, like 90% of players before him, he and his best buds decided they would just form their own team. They circumvented the rules of the NBA that are designed to encourage competitiveness and parity. They were well within their rights to do so, but I have a hard time respecting the a player with James' ability taking the "easy" route.

Tack on the WAY he did it, and it was just bush-league. No courtesy call to the Cavs. No humility. No respect to the fans of Cleveland. Everyone forgets that Ilgauskas left Cleveland the same season Lebron did, but he didn't have a ridiculous PR even. He didn't participate in a team introduction that looked like a freaking Championship Parade, talking about 5-6 titles in a row. And he took out a full-page ad in the Cleveland paper thanking the fans.

I was a huge fan of Lebron over the first half of his career. HE changed that by showing that he doesn't give a crap about the fans that make him more than just an athletic dude who can put a ball in a hoop. He's all about his "global image".

Freedman Moor 10 years, 1 month ago

"I have a hard time buying the 'that's not a championship-caliber team...Any team that makes it to the NBA Finals is a championship caliber team. Any team that finishes with the best record in the NBA in consecutive seasons is a championship caliber team.'"

The Cleveland Cavaliers, minus Lebron James, nearly set an NBA record for futility the season following James' departure.

"The point is really that The Cavs were active (perhaps overly so) in trying to put a good team around Lebron. They were making trades, FA signings, and doing whatever they could to get him help"

In the summer of 2010, the Cavs signed Joey Graham. Here is a list of some notable 2010 UFAs:

Steve Blake, Carlos Boozer, Chris Bosh, Tyson Chandler, Channing Frye, Al Harrington, Chuck Hayes, Grant Hill, Richard Jefferson, Anthony Johnson, Joe Johnson, Kyle Korver, Jamaal Magloire, Kenyon Martin, Brad Miller, Flip Murray, Rasho Nesterivic, Dirk Nowitzki, Joel Pryzbilla, Theo Ratliff, Michael Redd, Luke Ridnour, Deshawn Stevenson, Kurt Thomas, Tim Thomas, Dwyane Wade, Earl Watson, Chris Wilcox, Peja Stojakovic, Sheldon Williams

There are half a dozen playrs on this list that could have put the Cavs over the top. Any one of these players could have helped the Cavs more than Joey Graham.

"Rather than doing it organically, like 90% of players before him..."

I challenge you to substantiate this claim with actual facts.

"They circumvented the rules of the NBA that are designed to encourage competitiveness and parity."

"They", James, Wade, and Bosh were all unrestricted free agents. They didn't circumvent the rules. They abided by them. If the three of them forced trades after signing deals, then they would have been circumventing the rules.

Matt Bowers 10 years, 1 month ago

Congratulations Mario, for being an awesome player and teammate. Like Jay, I like you but not your team. It really pissed me off to see the guys on that team treat him like a hack on such a large stage and he just took it. There was no love or appreciation on that team for Mario and that is wrong.

Rock Chalk

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 1 month ago

If Chalmers was on the OKC team, they would have kicked Miami's butt. So, they should be glad he's on their team!

Jeremy Wilhelm 10 years, 1 month ago

I disagree with your assessment - I'm no heat fan, but it looked to me like the ribbing he was getting was akin to the type of ribbing a big brother doles out to his kid brother... there were plenty of chest bumps, high fives, and nods of approval going around this post-season, and Mario had enough big plays to command some respect, IMO.

Sam Constance 10 years, 1 month ago

I must respectfully disagree with this assessment. The way Bosh was yelling at him was completely uncalled for. I would feel differently if I had ever seen any of the "big" three yell at each other in that same way.

Mario Chalmers is a FOURTH YEAR player. He should be past the role as whipping boy for a group of guys who know absolutely nothing about good leadership.

Undressing a teammate on the court, in front of national TV and thousands of fans, is not a show of "respect".

JHawk06 10 years, 1 month ago

Seriously. Happy for Chalmers but thinking he will move on (see above)

connhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

Everybody was really complimentary after that game. Look how happy D-Wade was for him after the game (warning: language): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiL8Hz4znIE

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 1 month ago

Two other Jayhawks on teams in this year's NBA playoffs/finals should have the "two ring" distinction. Paul Pierce and Nick Collison certainly deserved the honor. Pierce is halfway there. Collison should have had his NCAA ring and could have had his NBA ring. Of course, if Nick had his NCAA and his NBA, then Cole would have both as well, since he's half way there with the NCAA.

justinryman 10 years, 1 month ago

Jacque Vaughn got a ring with the Spurs and is an assistant with them now and was in the NBA Conf. Finals.

With the Final four in the NBA this year a Jayhawk was getting an NBA title ring.

justinryman 10 years, 1 month ago

NOw if he can just catch on with the Olympic team for a Gold!!!

Brian Mensch 10 years, 1 month ago

4 years later, I still can't believe Giddens was drafted over Chalmers in 08! I'm happy for Super Mario and all of his success!

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 1 month ago

I was hoping it would be Collison celebrating a championship.
Nothing against Mario, one of my all-time favorite players, but not a big fan of Miami. Collison still does so many things that don't show up on the stat book... And he seems to be appreciated by his teammates for his hard work.

I don't really follow the NBA as much as I follow Jayhawks playing in the NBA. Couldn't help but notice that three of the final four teams had Jayhawks on their roster.

Freedman Moor 10 years, 1 month ago

I'm not even a Lebron James fan, but I'm very puzzled by the Lebron hating. Did Lebron force a trade? Did Lebron demand more money? Did Lebron railroad his coach? Did Lebron give any ultimatums? No, no, no, and no. Why is it that if a player gets traded, forced to take a pay cut, or released from a team he doesn't want to leave, its all about business. But if a player wants more money or leaves a team that wants to keep him, he's a traitor? Why aren't the Cavs held accountable for blatantly tanking their '02 season to get Lebron in the first place? I was waiting for cries of “poetic justice” but apparently organizations are held to a lower standard than players. Wow!

Here is a list of some notable 2010 UFAs:

Steve Blake, Carlos Boozer, Chris Bosh, Tyson Chandler, Channing Frye, Al Harrington, Chuck Hayes, Grant Hill, Richard Jefferson, Anthony Johnson, Joe Johnson, Kyle Korver, Jamaal Magloire, Kenyon Martin, Brad Miller, Flip Murray, Rasho Nesterivic, Dirk Nowitzki, Joel Pryzbilla, Theo Ratliff, Michael Redd, Luke Ridnour, Deshawn Stevenson, Kurt Thomas, Tim Thomas, Dwyane Wade, Earl Watson, Chris Wilcox, Peja Stojakovic, Sheldon Williams

If Cleveland was serious about keeping Lebron, everything they needed to win a championship was available that summer—youth, athleticism, scoring, defense, rebounding, experience. Who did the Cavs sign? Joey Graham. Joey Graham. I'm sure the squad full of bums already signed to long-term deals—who, minus only one notable player, would nearly set a record for NBA futility the following year—had something to do with it. Either way, if you were Lebron, how much confidence would you have in the future? How long would you be willing to wait? Remember the choke artist label Elway had to live with prior to the arrival of Shanahan and Terrell Davis? Would you have faith that your organization could or was capable of pulling the same type of turnaround?

Lebron left $30 million on the table for the chance to win a championship. He made a business decision. He made a life decision. He made the right decision! No one can say for sure that Cleveland will NEVER win an NBA championship, but it was obvious that it wasn't going to happen anytime soon. Free agents neither wanted to play for the Cavs nor sign live in Cleveland.

Yet despite the fact that Lebron James, who's rap sheet includes no criminal indictments or investigations, remains one of the most hated athletes (even by people who didn't give a [Mizzou] about the Cavs) while guys like Ben Rothlisbeger escape the public's rath despite being accused of sexual assault tow or three times. Lebron James is one of the most hated athletes while Chris "Birdman" Anderson is is being investigated for clild porn. Child porn. For those of you who missed the first 2,782 characters of my diatribe, I said “child porn”. Where's the out rage? Maybe there's something else at play here. Only the haters know for sure.

Freedman Moor 10 years, 1 month ago

One thing that I found out after the fact was "The Decision" was actually for charity. That whole setup was for the benefit of the Boys and Girls Club...and it was ESPN's idea, not his. its kinda like all those investors suing Facebook for the bungled IPO when it was actually Nasdaq's fault.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 1 month ago

I thought this was about Mario. And since when did liking or not liking a certain player become linked with child porn? Flawed logic - wrong forum.

KJRFC 10 years, 1 month ago

Not sure if this has been answered yet (I didn't see it in any posts), but how many players have won both NCAA and NBA titles? I know Larry Brown is the only coach to do it.

texashawk10 10 years, 1 month ago

It was in the Q&A with Tait yesterday and I believe the answer is 40 players. Mario and Shane Battier both joined the club last night.

Dyrk Dugan 10 years, 1 month ago

congrats to Mario....he really earned it, and kudos to Pat Riley for sticking his neck out for him last year...and early on in the process as well. 2nd round picks aren't likely to play this big of a role for a team....so great job by the org. and Mr. Chalmers.

this team could win several more titles...i'm sure Mario would like to stay right where he's at. would you rather win and get your tail chewed a bit? or go 30-52 every year, rack up the minutes, be the glory hound and maybe, maybe the All star games. i'd pick the former.

Plus, he'll get paid...quite handsomely in just a few years when his deal is up. Go Jayhawks!

bjejayhawk69 10 years, 1 month ago

I thought Wade looked like a bigger ego maniac after the finals. Standing on the table saying Look at ME look at me. Lebron at least went around to each Thunder player and shook hands or hugged them. Also Wade gave Mario little credit for saving their *ss in game 4. Wade is the now the biggest cry baby of them all after every call he wines to the ref.

Happy for Mario though

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