Thursday, November 24, 2011

Despite stakes, KU won’t empty football playbook

Kansas quarterback Jordan Webb throws during warmups prior to kickoff against Iowa State on Saturday, Nov. 5, 2011 at Jack Trice Stadium in Ames, Iowa.

Kansas quarterback Jordan Webb throws during warmups prior to kickoff against Iowa State on Saturday, Nov. 5, 2011 at Jack Trice Stadium in Ames, Iowa.


With so much and, yet, nothing at all at stake during this weekend’s Border War battle between the Kansas University and Missouri football teams, it would be easy to expect the match-up to feature a wide range of wild and crazy plays from both sides.

That won’t be the case for Kansas University, according to KU coach Turner Gill, who said earlier this week that the Jayhawks (2-9 overall, 0-8 Big 12) would take the same approach to Saturday’s contest as they had taken to the other 11 games that came before it. No gimmick offense. No forced trick plays. Heck, not even an extra shot of adrenaline from wearing a new uniform or helmet.

“We are going to do what we need to do to give us the best chance to win the game,” Gill said. “Every game we have ‘special plays,’ if you want to call it that. If you decide to run them, you run them. If you don’t, you don’t. But we are going to do whatever gives us the best chance to win. The bottom line is execution.”

With six wins already, Missouri (6-5, 4-4) basically has assured itself of a bowl invitation in the coming weeks. Because of that, getting win No. 7 won’t do much for the Tigers’ postseason prospects. What it would do, however, is give MU the kind of bragging rights that might be tough for Kansas to get back. Most years, they talk about this game being for a year’s worth of bragging rights. On Saturday, the outcome could last a lifetime.

No matter where you look, the all-time series between these two programs is as close as it can get. KU and the NCAA have the Border War series deadlocked at 55-55-9. The Tigers claim a 56-54-9 advantage because KU’s 23-7 victory in 1960 over then-top-ranked MU included ineligible players and was later forfeited.

With the Tigers leaving the Big 12 for the SEC and the future of the rivalry in serious jeopardy, Saturday’s game has a winner-take-all feel to it.

“It adds to the magnitude of the game,” sophomore quarterback Jordan Webb said. “We know it’s for all the marbles and bragging rights for however many years to come. We’re definitely going to take it to heart and come out and play inspired on Saturday.”

If it is, in fact, the final game in series history, Gill admitted a bit of added significance.

“I think it is going to be a game that is well remembered, just because of that,” Gill said. “As a legacy, people are always going to talk about the last game played, so I think that is what brings about a little more significance to this game. It is the last opportunity to play in this type of situation, so it is very, very meaningful and is definitely going to leave a good legacy with whoever wins this football game.”

It also has significance for this year’s team, which has lost eight straight after starting the season 2-0.

“This is pretty much our championship,” KU red-shirt freshman tight end Jimmay Mundine said. “We don’t have a bowl game to go to, so this weekend is our championship game.”

Ticket sales slow going

As of Wednesday afternoon, ticket sales the Border War were moving slowly on the Kansas side of the state line.

According to KU associate athletic director Jim Marchiony, Arrowhead Stadium officials said that 47,000 tickets had been sold for the KU-MU game. Arrowhead’s capacity is listed around 76,400.

The majority of those sales seem to be going to Mizzou fans. Sources have said that only about 7,000 tickets have been sold to KU supporters, and one report indicated that KU had sold only around 250 of its allotment of 4,000 student tickets.

New KU billboards in KC

KU’s attempt to claim Kansas City as a Jayhawk town in the wake of Missouri’s upcoming departure from the Big 12 appears to be in full swing.

The KU marketing department has scooped up 10 billboard spaces throughout Kansas City, with the message “We are KANSAS City” the focal point of each.

The ads include three football boards, which feature a photo of Todd Reesing’s touchdown pass to Kerry Meier that beat Mizzou in 2008; three Big 12 champion men’s basketball boards, which feature a photo of the Jayhawks hoisting Big 12 signs after winning a recent Big 12 tournament title at Sprint Center; two 1988 national championship boards, which feature a photo of Danny Manning, Chris Piper and Milt Newton celebrating their ’88 title on the Kemper Arena floor; and two digital boards.

Johnson up for Burlsworth Trophy

KU linebacker Steven Johnson has been named a semifinalist for the 2011 Burlsworth Trophy, which honors the top player in college football who began his career as a walk-on.

Johnson is one of 10 finalists for the award, which will be announced on Dec. 9 at a banquet in Springdale, Ark. The senior who hails from Media, Pa., leads the Jayhawks and Big 12 Conference in tackles, with 83 in conference play, and ranks 16th nationally, with 110 total.

Fans can vote for Johnson by visiting:

Mecham honored by Big 12

Back-up quarterback Quinn Mecham, a senior from Provo, Utah, was one of 10 Big 12 athletes named a Community of Champions honoree Wednesday.

Mecham, who was named Academic All-Big 12 earlier this fall, has been active in Student Athlete Advisory Committee and regularly participates in community-service opportunities through Big Brothers Big Sisters, a local shelter and Special Olympics. Mecham is one of five football players to earn the honor, which is given annually to athletes who excel in areas of academics, community service and sportsmanship.

Laptad joins Bears full-time

Former KU defensive end Jake Laptad, a 2010 KU graduate and three-time honorable mention All-Big 12 honoree, has been signed to the 53-man roster of the Chicago Bears as a long snapper.

Laptad was invited to the Bears’ training camp last summer and, after being cut, was welcomed back as a part of the team’s practice squad a few weeks ago.

Laptad, originally from Tulsa, Okla., ranks second on KU’s all-time sacks list, with 21. He played at Kansas from 2007-10.


ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 6 months ago

Ah man! I thought TG would get a little crazy and actually run a passing play out of the wildcat formation.

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

That is crazy talk mister. You better settle yourself down and execute

johnnyhrdwd 10 years, 6 months ago

That 250 might represent the tickets for the marching band.

Code_2008 10 years, 6 months ago

Actually we have more than that. The number is closer to 300.

Kenny Terry 10 years, 6 months ago

Were going to approach this game like the previous 11? Really? In other words Jayhawk nation prepare for another lopsided defeat and mindless drivel on postgame. Turner Gill is a joke for a coach and many more lopsided defeats will happen if he is brought back

sevenyearhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

yeah ... that comment by Turner was particularly disturbing.


John Strayer 10 years, 6 months ago

Isn't that the definition of insanity...doing the samething over and over expecting different results?

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

Insanity is gill being aggressive. I say first play of the first possession we get just punt it that way we cut out the middle man.

Jeffery Barrett 10 years, 6 months ago

All you Mangino lovers just need to let it go.

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

why do you have an account to a KU website if you aren't a KU fan. get a life

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

get of this website when mizzou is actually gone will you keep a KU website account? just wondering.

Mizzoufan 10 years, 6 months ago

I will. I enjoy keeping up with other teams we compete(d) with.

Mizzoufan 10 years, 6 months ago

Same reason I do, to keep up with what's happening in Jayhawk territory. Only difference is I don't come on here to trash KU.

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

2/1 odds Pinkel is drunk by halftime! Is he driving the team bus?

SCJayhawker 10 years, 6 months ago

Of course nobody is buying tickets. Who wants to go watch KU get humiliated again. We have watched it for far too long. With the current brain trust running (ruining) the program it will be the same thing next year but the ticket sales will be way down for our home games. Memorial stadium will be just as empty as will Arrowhead.

Sad thing is Gill STILL just dosen't seem to get it. "we will approach this game like the previous". Ahhhhh Coach, It hasn't been working in the previous. Maybe its time for a change? What do you think?

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

no the KU athletic department can afford to go anymore in debt than they already are right now. 58 million dollars if they fire gill they will be 62 million dollars in debt

Jeff Hargate 10 years, 6 months ago

$6 mil will be a drop in the bucket compared to the money KUAC will lose if he is retained. No tickets sales plus declining donations will dwarf the buyout.

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

well i have sat through seasons where ku was worse than they are now and people didn't whine as much as they are now mangino was bad in the beginning but then he spoiled other KU football "fans" with a 12-1 season KU was doing about as bad as they are now.

Ryan Gerstner 10 years, 6 months ago

You realize KU brings in $75 million per year right? And furthermore, the debt service is only $2.5 million per year. More than likely, you're paying a significantly higher percentage of your income toward your own debt service.

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

well they obviously didn't bring in enough money in last year

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

we are all entitled to our own opinions i just feel the leaders of the University wont find it beneficial to fire him so yes maybe we will have to put up with a few bad years but things can only get better from next year on no matter what they choose to do

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

My fears he gets one more year because of his contract, but if and that is a big if he stays there better be an over haul of the staff

squintseugene1 10 years, 5 months ago

people who are true fans will go to a game and stay even if they get beaten bad you may not be but I for one would go

troutsee 10 years, 6 months ago

My family of 12 will be least for the kickoff of the first half. It is a toss-up at this point as to whether or not we will be around for the second half kick off. Based on the humiliation experienced in 7 of the previous games, the odds are against us being around for the 2nd half kickoff. This game shapes up to be another blow out loss.

sevenyearhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

I have a ride to the game with a friend who'll be running the instant replay on the video board ... but I'm still looking for a ticket.

I've attended Border Wars from 2004 to 2009, guess I should try to attend the Last One, even if Turner the Derp is still on the sideline.

Gary Wirsig 10 years, 6 months ago

I always enjoyed your posts during the Mangino era, and frankly haven't liked your posts lately. However, I admire your faithfulness to the Jayhawks.

Ryan Gerstner 10 years, 6 months ago

Tickets are $15 through KU. Gotta buy it before Saturday though.

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Memorial Stadium was built in 1920 funded by students, faculty, and fans. Originally the stadium had only east and west bleachers, which were expanded southward in 1925. The north bowl seating section was added in 1927 to give the stadium its horseshoe shape which it retains today. The west bleachers were expanded significantly upwards in 1963, with similar additions to the east side in 1965.

Today in KU - MU History –1921. November 24, 1921 was Thursday, Thanksgiving Day, and it was the first KU - MU game in Memorial Stadium.
Source: Lawrence Journal-World – November 25, 1921 Headline: First Clash on Stadium Goes to Kansas, 15 to 9. Big Crowd Saw Game. Selected excerpts from the Lawrence front page: …..the first Kansas-Missouri game in the new stadium yesterday…..Between periods the rooters of both sides broke out with spectacular displays. Ku Klux Klan paraded the field with signs of welcome for the Missourians. The Missouri Razzers staged a boxing match in the center of the field in which the Tiger and the Jayhawk were allowed to battle to a finish. The former was counted out…..Later the annual Thanksgiving classic passed into history and a wild cheer arose from the Kansas stands, acclaming the Kansas victory, 15 to 9. The stimulus attaching to homecoming games at Kansas is a driving force in football. ….the 21,000 fans who packed both sides of the stadium and overflowed the temporary bleachers on the ends and in the cinder track around the gridiron…

s6u6r6f 10 years, 6 months ago

Nice research, Funhawk. The klan and a sanctioned mascot fight. Hope the slavers enjoy their more fitting home in the SEC: encephalitic banjo picking clanks from the near future. Good riddance.

Rock chalk.

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

KU History – this date in 1921. Thanksgiving and the first KU - MU game in Memorial Stadium. Source: Lawrence Journal-World – November 25, 1921. More excerpts from the front page: None could ask for a more perfect day for a great football game. The sun broke through a canopy of clouds in the middle of the morning and revealed a world in which an air of gaiety had not been stifled by the overhanging mist….The proteges of George “Potsy” Clark were playing their first big game in the memorial stadium and they did not forget that a new tradition was in the making; Kansas must never lose a football game in the stadium….Sheriff Will Johns was well pleased with the arrangements made for taking care of the crowd that came to Lawrence yesterday. “We found no difficulty in handling the crowd. There was some liquor here, but we only saw one or two men who had gone too far, and they were taken care of by friends.” No local people indicated that they had seen anything more than water as a beverage during the day.

Headline: The Chancellor Is Pleased. “It was a great day for the University and for Lawrence,” said Chancellor E. H. Lindley this morning. “Under the direction of ‘Potsy’ Clark wonders have been wrought with a young team.”

Note: George “Potsy” Clark was KU’s head football coach in 1921. Coach Potsy was twenty-seven years old. He later became an NFL coach and subsequently the athletic director of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

The alcohol laws of Kansas have been among the strictest in the U. S., in sharp contrast to Missouri’s. Kansas had statewide prohibition from 1881 to 1948, longer than any other state. Regardless, Kansans mastered the art of concealment.

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

KU History – this date in 1921. The first KU - MU game in Memorial Stadium.
Phog gives the paper his post-game poem. Source: Lawrence Journal-World – November 25, 1921. Article copied from Page 1 as follows: “Phog” Allen’s Tone Poem Forrest C. Allen, director of athletics: “Art and nature combined painted a great picture on stadium field yesterday. We reveled for an hour and a half in an orgy of coloring. “Everything was perfect. The team showed superior coaching, splendid conditioning, master strategy and traditional Kansas fight. They could not and would not lose on their new stadium field. The home-coming Kansas throng felt the same way. They had given generously of their time, effort and money to help to produce this splendid spectacle.
They were with us heart and soul, many thousand strong. “Kansas conquered. A Kansas team is yet to be defeated on the stadium memorial field. “Long live Kansas!”

Comment about Forrest C. Allen and Missouri. Jamesport in northwest Missouri is a fun day trip. It’s in Tiger country. Buses unload dozens of smiling tourists, proudly wearing their black and gold, Tiger stamped attire. Long before the Pennsylvanian Amish immigrated to Jamesport, before this Missouri town of 500 became an Amish tourist spot, a Mr. William Allen was the Jamesport town clerk, collector, and constable. His son, Forrest, was born here in one of these little Jamesport houses, but you won’t read it here:

okchawks24 10 years, 6 months ago

i just cant excited for the annual ku mizzou game we all no kansas is going to get rolled it will be the same old thing give up 55 points and watch are offense look like the kc chiefs offense with no rythum and coach turner gill excuses after excuses my pred mizzou 55 kansas 10

Kenny Terry 10 years, 6 months ago

You are probably right on Missouri 55 but I'm not so sure we will score 10 points.

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

how can you people call yourself true fans i never think that my teams are going to get wiped out give turner gill a break. Mark Mangino went 2-10 his first year turner gill won 1 more game than him.

Ryan Gerstner 10 years, 6 months ago

Are you a KU fan? KU has gotten annihilated in the majority of our games this year. Literally set records for futility in a school that has had a mediocre history. Mangino won 4 more games in year 2 and went to a bowl game. The progress was obvious. KU has regressed in year 2 under Gill. Fortunately, Gill is done after Saturday, but if not, you would be sitting there with 10 of your friends because no one else would be watching this joke of a program. It's bad enough that we've sold a pathetic 7,000 tickets in the last game against our biggest rival when the all time series is tied.

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

ya i am a KU fan i just don't need to fake a fanship by making my name hawkfan, i am also a KU student who is probably more of a fan than most. I'm just wondering if most people on here are? and yes mangino may have had a much better record in his second year but he probably also had more fan suppot put in him in year 2 than gill is getting buy FAKE KU fans

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

Forget the comparisons please. I watched mango of and he is gone so just stop. His second season the team was showing progress so it was easier to see why he was staying. This current teams getting worse.

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

the offense for KU got much better in gills second year atleast throughout some of the games this season

Ibajayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

How can you possibly say the offense has gotten better when we,ve got a qb who hasn't even got a sniff of the goal line after the first quater and an offense that is so predictable that most pee wee league coaches could defend it. oh yeah have you changed your name again to protect tg.

squintseugene1 10 years, 5 months ago

well for 1 throughout the first 5 games Jordan Webb was near the top of QB rating and James Sims ran for 100 yards in the first few games and last year our team wouldn't have even come close to beating NIU. lastly I'm actually a new user (you may not want to jump to conclusions before you know people) but yes i do support turner gill but mainly i support the decisions of my schools administration whether to keep HCTG or not i will feel ok with whatever. turner gill has had one true recruiting class this team is just to young darrien miller and tony pierson will make the running game much better. i do agree however that the offense is to predictable i will not argue that with you

Ibajayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

As the old saying goes ' what have you done for me lately'. I remember you saying that the offense had improved this year. Isn't lately part of this year?

Ibajayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

How can you possibly say the offense has gotten better when we,ve got a qb who hasn't even got a sniff of the goal line after the first quater and an offense that is so predictable that most pee wee league coaches could defend it. oh yeah have you changed your name again to protect tg.

hawkshot 10 years, 6 months ago

The KU playbook has been empty for the whole season!

texashawk10 10 years, 6 months ago

But worth infinitely more than one from Columbia. How many Zs are in Missouri again?

squintseugene1 10 years, 6 months ago

why are you gere abandon KU just like your team has decided to do

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

"Remember Osceola!" was what Quantrill's gang were yelling on the streets of Lawrence, the August morning they burned down the town. Its been said Quantrill would never have invaded Lawrence that day if Kansas senator Jim Lane had not previously burned down Osceola. Osceola was one of the largest towns in southwest Missouri at the time. Lawrence recovered and Osceola was rebuilt, but a fraction of its original size. Jim Lane committed suicide one year after the war, and a Kansas county, town, former college, and numerous Kansas streets are named after him. What a screen name!

Steve Brown 10 years, 5 months ago

If we don't empty the playbook what are we saving it for?

I can't stomach losing to KState but it is nothing compared to Mizzou.

Into the valley of death rode the 600.

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