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Did Bill Self overreact to Brannen Greene's dunk vs. K-State?

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Kansas guard Brannen Greene (14) comes down from a breakaway dunk with seconds remaining in the the Jayhawks' 77-59 win over Kansas State, Wednesday, Feb. 3, 2016 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Brannen Greene (14) comes down from a breakaway dunk with seconds remaining in the the Jayhawks' 77-59 win over Kansas State, Wednesday, Feb. 3, 2016 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

Did Bill Self overreact to Brannen Greene’s meaningless and unnecessary dunk in the final seconds of Wednesday’s blowout victory over Kansas State?

The thought had not even crossed my mind until I was flipping channels Thursday morning looking for a little Super Bowl coverage to kick-start my day.

There, on FOX Sports 1, was radio personality Colin Cowherd talking live from San Francisco about, what I assumed would be, Super Bowl 50. And it was. For the most part. But tossed in between his discussion of the Broncos and Panthers was a mini-rant about college basketball coaches operating as dictators and then a more specific rant about Bill Self’s reaction to Greene’s dunk on Wednesday night.

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Self, as you surely know by now, called it a punk move — although he used slightly different terminology — and said it was totally classless and apologized to K-State.

To me, it seemed like the right thing for Self to do and, judging by the reaction on Twitter, it looked as if most KU fans agreed.

But then Cowherd started going off on Self and I began to question it a little. Was Cowherd right? Was Self using this as an opportunity to make himself look good because Greene made HIM look bad, as Cowherd suggests? Was it really a completely meaningless act in a college basketball game that no one should get too worked up about because it had nothing to do with the outcome and didn’t hurt a soul?

Maybe.

And I get where Cowherd is coming from. But here’s the thing Cowherd doesn’t get. And, worse, what he probably did not take the time to try to get.

This is not the first time Brannen Greene has pulled some type of shenanigans during his career at Kansas. He leads the team in suspensions, has been a thorn in Self’s side just about every year he’s been here and has proven on far too many occasions that he believes he, in whatever small way, is bigger or at least more important than the Kansas program and college basketball in general. And it's too bad too because Greene is a heck of a talent and has always been one of my favorite KU basketball players to interview because he always seems genuine and real.

Kansas head coach Bill Self reacts to a stretch filled with turnovers by the Jayhawks before Kansas guard Brannen Greene (14) during the first half, Monday, Jan. 25, 2016 at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa.

Kansas head coach Bill Self reacts to a stretch filled with turnovers by the Jayhawks before Kansas guard Brannen Greene (14) during the first half, Monday, Jan. 25, 2016 at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa. by Nick Krug

I posted this on Twitter Wednesday night and I think it’s probably the most important thing to remember in the Great Greene Dunk Controversy of 2016: If this had been any other player, if Wayne Selden or Jamari Traylor or literally any other player on the KU roster had pulled what Greene pulled, I don’t think it would’ve been as big of a deal to Self.

Don’t get me wrong, I still don’t think he would’ve liked it and I’m sure he would’ve said something about it. But I’m not sure his scolding would’ve come as publicly as his comments about Greene did. And that’s on Greene. He earned that by pushing Self’s buttons too many times before.

Heck, if this had been a freshman who simply did not know better, that would’ve been one thing. But you can’t tell me for one second that Greene did not know that Self would hate the dunk the minute he threw it down. Now, maybe he didn’t think about it while he was doing. (Let’s hope that’s the case). But you know he’s been around long enough to know better.

And that brings me back to Cowherd. On the surface, sure, this was a silly play that could very, very, very easily have been overlooked. But to those people familiar with Kansas basketball — the fans, the media, KU employees and even those who are a part of this KU team — this was not just a silly play. This was stupid, a dumb move by a player who has proven time and again that he’s not afraid to make these types of mistakes.

Because of that, Self was absolutely justified in calling Greene out. Who cares if Self did so because it made him look bad. It made Kansas look bad. Maybe not to people in all four corners of the world and certainly not to people outside of college athletics. But in the realm in which the KU program matters most, college sports and college basketball, this move was a very un-Kansas like thing to do, and as the leader of the program it is Self’s job — an absolute requirement behind all of that fame, notoriety and money he makes — to make sure that his players represent the school, the state and college basketball in a way that paints KU in a positive light.

He won’t be able to bat 1.000 in that department. But when he reacts to such stupidity the way he did last night, it sure increases his chances of getting close.

I won't argue with the people who say Self overreacted, but, at least in my opinion, Cowherd did, as well.

Comments

Jay Scott 6 years, 10 months ago

There are very few things clearer to even the casual fan than how end of game blowout situations are to be handled. Greene violated this. It shows disrespect to everyone. KState, Coach Self and the rest of the team.

I so wish Greene could get himself sorted out. He has a gift. It would be a shame for him to squander it.

Rick Meyer 6 years, 10 months ago

Sure.....Greene can be a problem child and has proven as much. He's a kid. Immature, yes. But I think in this situation it's a smoke screen to the fact that Bill Self just has a problem motivating the team to play. I don't see scrappy play very often any more. Haven't since Dooley and Manning left the program. Why is one of the coach's a dope smoker? That in itself teaches the kids that there are no consequences. If I was Greene......and Mickelson for that matter, I'd run down the road and play with Frankamp at Wichita State.

Mike Tackett 6 years, 10 months ago

Matt, you got it. Perfect summation. Cowherd is an ass, the only time anyone listens to him is when he says something totally off the wall. Can't believe that guys makes a living talking about sports, something he knows nothing about.

Bryce Landon 6 years, 10 months ago

Colin Cowherd used to be on KTOP-AM 1490 here in Topeka until the station switched its affiliation from ESPN Radio to CBS Sports Radio. It was a good move by station management, as most of the ESPN Radio personalities were pretty bland. The CBS guys are more interesting, especially Jim Rome.

Cora Smith 6 years, 10 months ago

How is it that Bill Snyder runs up the score on KU every year and is loved and revered? Talk about classless. Brannen Greene doesn't know how to get out of the doghouse because he doesn't know how he got into it. Frankly, other than the fact he is not a point guard and should not be dribbling down court, I think he should be getting more minutes. He guards on defense and runs the floor well. I wish he and Coach Self had a better relationship because I think he could be a major player if he wasn't looking over his shoulder all the time.

Michael Leiker 6 years, 9 months ago

Thank god somebody mentioned this. Great post

Pius Waldman 6 years, 10 months ago

Matt ole buddy: Any topic worth discussing has both sides to consider. To say that Greene shouldn't have dunked at the end is accurate. My point is how Self reacted. He handled the situation by creating a national reaction to his comments. Why not in the dressing room say thats not how we do it and maybe have Greene apologize to the Wildcats. Greene has to live with the reaction and that will haunt him for a long time. I just think a coach should remember his players are going to make mistakes and guide them to mature and become better persons. Greene has had problems but remember the 6 game suspension was rather harsh for simply wanting to get more playing time. He accepted that and now many are jumping all over him for dunking at the end of the game. Think about this why didn't Self put in the walkons with the big lead he had.

Kent Noble 6 years, 10 months ago

Was Brannen Greene's dunk disrespectful sure it was. But at that time I don't think he realized what he just did til the aftermath. Yes he's been there long enough to know better and I'm sure it won't happen again! If i'm Bill Self that dunk doesn't bother me so much as the way his team is playing right now. Coach Self has hell of alot bigger fish to fry than worry about a game ending dunk. This team has no chemistry what so ever, they look dead to the water. There's was absolutely nobody showing any emotions last night and your playing your in State rival. KU'S Big 12 run will definitley come to an end. These kids show no heart and I agree Rick Meyer there has not been any scrappy play at all. March Maddness is definitely wide open to any team this year. If these kids don't get it to gether it will most likely be an early out. Sad especially with a bench full of talent.

Lee Henry 6 years, 9 months ago

I agree with Kent...this team is not on key...are we missing something here?....why wasn't the walkons given some minutes if he was worried about running up the score?

Shouldn't have done it right, but with his playing time probably frustratio setting in...

Mason and Ellis both should take this team and show a litle leadership on the floor with some emotion....

Matt Dimeo 6 years, 10 months ago

I would have said the same thing if I was Bill. Kids do stupid things. Move on.

Kristen Downing 6 years, 10 months ago

I'm sure Self regrets using the word dick in the heat of the moment....when did that become a curse word? Anyway, I think it was definitely a culmination of Greeneisms and how mad he was at most of the team's play. Did you see him with Selden a couple times? Greene just picked a bad time for his ADD to kick in. Not great the press attention as they just love sound bites, not the whole story. Hopefully, it will pass soon.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 10 months ago

Yes Bill Self overreacted. Calling it a d*** move and throwing Greene under the bus was because Self lost his cool in the moment. Yes, the move was unnecessary and Self apologizing isn't an issue and I don't think I've seen anybody dispute that aspect of the situation. Whether or not you enjoyed seeing Greene show up KSU or not is a personal matter (I enjoyed it personally but I don't blame others for feeling differently), but the reality is Self lost control last night night when discussing Brannen Greene and that doesn't reflect well on himself and I hope Self will at least apologize to Greene for doing that last night.

Scott Smetana 6 years, 10 months ago

I think Self mad for many other reasons. He really threw Seldon under the bus to the media for the way he played. I'm also thinking he had to cover for Greene. Hopefully, he throttled way back behind closed doors. Greene should release some kind of apology on twitter or something then we should all move on.

Bryce Landon 6 years, 10 months ago

I think Self was already upset about the team's lackadaisical play despite the victory, and what Greene did sent him over the edge, hence the use of the word "d***" in his postgame interview with Greg Gurley.

Bruce Bertsch 6 years, 10 months ago

Two words, one name...Elijah Johnson. Remember the end of a game at Iowa State when EJ did the same thing? Is it any worse to do it at home? If Bill Self is going to be consistent, Greene will get the same fate as EJ. At least Greene shows emotion and enthusiasm which has been lacking from this team.

Al Martin 6 years, 9 months ago

I was going to mention EJ and that game as well. But I think it proves Matt's point. Self had EJ come out and apologize in the postgame presser, and that was it.

Self is not being inconsistent here; he reacted differently this time because Brannen Greene is a pain in his (Self's) neck.

Ted Collins 6 years, 10 months ago

First issue is whether Greene even knew the game clock had not yet expired. There was a long delay with the ball, even by Greene himself. The dunk appeared to be an afterthought, not an intentional insult. Of course, whether he did or did not, he should issue an apology and an explanation.

Also, it is a fact that, for whatever reason(s), Greene has been in Self's doghouse and hasn't been given much of a chance since he arrived in Lawrence. Greene makes one game mistake and he's on the bench. Some others can make many that go unpunished. That is a fact.

Our coach won't win any awards this year. When you resort to taking 4 players aside and asking them who they "trust" as teammates, you are desperate , especially when some of those chosen 4 are so inconsistent. And absent some miracle turnaround, the streak is over, unfortunately.

Dennis Privat 6 years, 9 months ago

Maybe it was a response for nearly getting trampled last year in Manhattan? Don't think the players don't remember those things....

Dirk Medema 6 years, 9 months ago

A response from Greene or Coach Self?

I can see the latter more than the former. Coach Self knows we need to go back to doomsville, and play like last night could easily come up short in that setting.

Jared Reeves 6 years, 9 months ago

Ted, you make a great point--did Greene even know the game clock hadn't expired? It wasn't like we were on the opponents floor and he was trying to make a statement.

I re-watched the video. I think it is very possible that Greene was just celebrating the victory and didn't know the game wasn't over since everyone stopped playing and the coaches were shaking hands.

Pius Waldman 6 years, 9 months ago

We all are big fans and want the team to be successful. Just maybe if this is handled properly the team and coach will work together and at least be a contender for conference and Big Dance games. Just being critical and never or hardly ever positive can cause players to try and not make mistakes rather than being aggressive. Should the coach and other players put Greene on an island by himself that might not be the best. The 4 horsemen need to accept everyone and play that crappy zone defense if asked. Many of use have opinions about who should play and how many minutes. But the coach decides that answer and we will have to live with his decisions. The Big 12 championship will not be easy to gain so hopefully we as fans and the coach and players will put forth the best effort and accept the results.

Jared Reeves 6 years, 9 months ago

Greene was wrong (assuming it was intentional, of which I am not completely convinced). Self's overreaction is the bigger story. There are plenty of things that get me more upset about this team than Greene's immaturity.

Is Self trying to make this such a big deal to hide the fact that this team has regressed as the season has progressed (and as the coach, he is responsible)?

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

I tend to agree. This is February. The team should have rounded into form by now. Especially considering the head start we got on the season by winning the gold. Especially considering the veteran nature of this team. Especially considering the talent level.

We're just not there.

Greene seems to be the whipping boy. Too bad cause this kind of reaction will probably hurt more than help a player who we be relied upon come tournament time. Some reaction was necessary, I suppose. But such colorful public language?

Dirk Medema 6 years, 9 months ago

His ripping of Selden in the same presser sort of affirms his general demeanor.

You can't take the comment out of context.

What did happen with EJ in Hilton? I just remember them yelling about it. (?and EJ apologizing?)

Travis Betz 6 years, 9 months ago

If he wanted to dunk the ball so darn bad he had an opportunity during the game when Svi passed the ball to him and he made a layup...dunk it when it means something

Dirk Medema 6 years, 9 months ago

Just watched the replay on E---. Judging from BG's demeanor as he walked to the line, his dunk was hardly different than when players flip the ball at the basket while people are headed for FT's on a dead ball. There was no attempt at showing anyone up. It was still dumb, but really just a couple seconds from being irrelevant, and most people are way overreacting.

Jared Reeves 6 years, 9 months ago

Dirk, I saw the same thing. This is a non-issue that Self overreacted to.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

19 .With all respect to dissenting opinions, it's more than just self-gratuitous to call someone "classless" while using classless language. I love Coach Self. No question. But he's wrong here. Not in thinking that Greene's dunk was unnecessary, but in the level of reaction. Again, publicly calling his dunk a "d*ck move" doesn't exemplify the kind of class he regrets Brannen did not have.

Michael Lorraine 6 years, 9 months ago

He's guilty of the same thing Brannen did which is doing something spur of the moment without thinking it through. Coach should have reprimanded Brannen in private and a apologized in public.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Exactly Michael. If youre Bill Self youre not just a sounding board expressing disapproval with Brannen Greene. Youre the COACH and you have to consider how your remarks affect not only Brannen, but the TEAM...which Brannen is a part of. As coach you have to decide which course of action is going to bring him back into the fold. I just think more distance was created than anything. I dont take away from Matt's point at all, that Brannen has been pushing buttons. But you are a seasoned adult who has dealt with the frustrations of players attitudes before. Somehow you have to find a way to manage the headache, preserve morale, and at the same time say publicly that it wrong. You cant just vent cause youre unhappy (and let's be clear: Coach has a RIGHT to be, but even so....). The comments to the press show the same kind of lack of judgment that Brannen showed on the court.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

And to the point about Brannen pushing buttons, I've been watching Kansas basketball longer than some here have been alive. Forty years now. I guarantee you that nothing is sacred to Kansas Staters, and they have pushed Kansas' buttons more than Missouri has. Bill Snyder has been, for the most part, a great ambassador for their program. But the AD over there had a great opportunity to redress the travesty that played out on Synder's field. He didn't do it. An extra bucket is but an eyelash in the eye against the spitting in the face that Kansas endured during K States pornographic half time show. Half of me knows Greene was wrong. The other half wants to buy the guy a beer.

John Pritchett 6 years, 9 months ago

I watched the replay and I agree with others that Greene probably thought the game had ended. That ending didn't feel like most endings, even when it is a foregone conclusion. When I was watching it in real-time, I saw the dunk but didn't think anything of it until the final score didn't match the announced score and I realized that the basket counted. Obviously players should always be aware of time and score, but at the end of a game like this, when you're walking off the court and suddenly find the ball in your hands (he didn't ask for it, it was handed to him), it's just a habit for a shooter like Greene.

But beyond that, I think Coach Self was reacting to what he was told and not what he saw. It's possible he watched a replay of it before the press conference, but I really doubt it. And when I watched the replay, I was looking for Coach Self's reaction and as far as I could tell he didn't see it happen. My guess is he was told it happened and he assumed the worst, because of Greene's history, and that's not fair. If I was Coach Self and I reacted to what I assumed Greene had done rather than what I knew he had done, I'd have a talk with him and apologize for jumping to conclusions about his motivation, but also make it clear that he's representing this program on national TV and he needs to always be aware of his actions and how they will be perceived, right or wrong. And then I'd pat him on the back and tell him it's time to move on.

But I do think Coach Self overreacted, and I suspect his reaction would have been different had he actually seen the dunk in real-time.

Also, Cowherd's rant was a d*ck move.

Colby Hebert 6 years, 9 months ago

If Self wants to take the team back he should start Vick, Svi, Ellis, Bragg, Diallo to send a message.

Armen Kurdian 6 years, 9 months ago

I once remember a game, can't remember who we were playing, but I think it was a conference game, Roy took out the entire starting five and put in the bottom five, including TJ Whatley, the bottom walk-on. There were out there for at least a couple of minutes.

John Myers 6 years, 9 months ago

IMHO, Cowherd is easily one of the worst sports media personalities in the business, so his thoughts don't mean a lot to me.

I think Coach Self overreacted a bit, but I'm fine with it. Greene has not shown any ability to maintain a consistent level of responsibility and maturity - it's really tiring.

Vernon Riggs 6 years, 9 months ago

What Brannen did was wrong. However the worse was the timing of the wrong. Coach Self was in a pretty foul mood before the dunk and a even worse one after the dunk. He over-reacted on the post-game radio show and post-game press conference. The apology should be very public and details of how the depth of Coach's feelings should have been private. This can all go away very quickly if the next time Coach is asked about it, he responds 'I have spoken to Brannen. he understands what I expect from him.' Brannen replies "I have spoken to Coach Self. I understand what I did was wrong and have a complete understanding of what is expected of me in the future." End of story. Win games. Go to the third weekend of the NCAA Tournament.

Jack Hoff 6 years, 9 months ago

I hate to say this but if any of you guys have ever been around Brannen Greene, I think you'd understand. The guy is a complete tool and cocky a**hole. I love my Jayhawks and I love all the players, but there is no sugar coating it... Brannen is the type of kid that acts better than everyone and snubs at people because he's a KU bball player. Seen it first hand at the KU basketball camp, football games and just in the Lawrence community. Lets not forget when he threw a basketball into the stands at the Kstate game in Manhattan last year. I even remember this Summer at Bill Selfs basketball camp, he was rehabbing his hip still and he was supposed to be helping out the kids during drills. He proceeds to start jacking up long range shots and one gets away from him and rolls a kids ankle. My personal opinion on the dunk is that it was classless and uncalled for. Every player knows how their coach will react to something like that and he knew doing it would be a risk. Its not that hard to just dribble out the clock. This is also completely different that Elijah Johnson a few years back because it's one thing to play really well and steal a victory on the road then rub it in with a dunk as opposed to playing crappy as hell at home and trying to rub it in when everyone else is just pissed off by the lackadasical play. Just my thoughts though. Agree or disagree as you please.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

As you wish. I disagree. I was at Late Night this year and I always position myself by a corridor where the players come out to peek at the show for a few minutes. Everyone was there except Ellis. As the players turned to leave, some fans asked to take some pictures on their cell phones. Brandon stayed twice as long for the fans as anyone else. All the other guys had long disappeared. He knew he had to go, but he simply would NOT deny a fan a photo opportunity. Everyone within 30 feet was gushing about how nice it was that he stayed for the fans, and we all knew he'd probably gotten in trouble for staying for us.

Brannen is a maverick, to be sure. But he does not mean anyone--fans, his team, his coach--any harm. He's just cut from a different piece of cloth. I TOTALLY get how he can lead to frustration for a coach. The situation I described above may not have ingratiated him with Self; but we thought it was very thoughtful of him. The guy has a heart of gold. He just doesn't know how to play by the rules very well. You can't give up on those kind of guys. Every player has some kind of issues--Brannen just has a different type of issue. He's gotta be coached through it.

Jared Reeves 6 years, 9 months ago

On a team filled with players who lack emotion, Greene seems to be the whipping boy because he has personality. Greene isn't perfect, but he isn't a bad kid either.

Michael Lorraine 6 years, 9 months ago

I also disagree. Even though Brannen has been universally condemned his actions don't amount to a drop in the bucket compared to what so many amateur and professional athletes have done. I did way worse stuff when I was his age. He's been the poster child for poor behavior for the last sports news cycle and it was for dunking a basketball.

Terry Harris 6 years, 9 months ago

Giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, who knows what was said in the locker room. I'm sure Coach Self was ticked at BG for the dunk. But you just have to wonder what went on in the locker room after the game that may, or may not, have set Coach off. I'm sure it can be very frustrating working with guys that don't always listen. We've seen it before and I'm sure we will see it again down the road.

Andy Hess 6 years, 9 months ago

Most fans agreed? Not this fan. It was a dunk, and it didn't matter. No one actually cared until Coach Self publicly shamed a player for it, and used a word that would likely get this comment deleted if i used it. I don't remember this level of anger when Elijah did the same thing against Iowa State, or when McLemore did it in Stillwater. He needs to focus on getting out of the first weekend of the tournament instead of this ongoing vendetta he has with Brannen Greene.

Kent Richardson 6 years, 9 months ago

Self over reacted, so what. Get over it, move on.

What is more likely? We tighten up our belts and grind into a tie for the conference crown or finish 5th?

What is more likely? We get to the finals of the conference tourney and get to the sweet 16 or win one game in the conference tourney and one game in the NCAA's?

This team has talent all through the roster. We have the soul of a turd.

The players only meeting was not about changing into a dynamic motivated team. It was I don't like who I am playing with. Losers deflecting blame.

Self is about to erupt I think and I hope. Everyone gets a new ass handed to them. The veteran players had their say and way and the results are in. Time for accountability. Display the hook with a newbie when they screw up? How about when a starter takes a half dozen possessions off?

This is the moment. We go up or down. What's it gonna be? Commitment or f-you?

Anyone else see it this way?

I am gonna go take my meds. Go Jayhawks, rise from the ashes, or let the bird dog retrieve the feathered friend.

Jeffrey Nichols 6 years, 9 months ago

Tait is correct - it is because Brannen has forever thought he is bigger than the program. There is no need to recount the numerous times he has upset Self, in large measure, because he Greene has made it all about himself. If you want to know where Greene's heart and loyalty lie, I say you look no further than this photo from this very website.

Matt Tait 6 years, 9 months ago

Wow. I don't remember seeing that photo, but that is pretty telling. Good find.

Jeffrey Nichols 6 years, 9 months ago

I genuinely want to like Greene. I find him to be an extremely talented kid. He is well spoken. I 100% believe the stories told by others on this thread. I wear the same crimson and blue blinders of so many others - my family's consecutive season ticket string dates back to games played in Hoch. But I will not excuse any player who doesn't buy into the program just because they are a KU basketball player. There is only one person out of a thousand in that photo who isn't genuinely excited and happy, I think for the three Selden hit from the corner with just under a minute to go. I've already typed too much, but the maxim "A picture speaks a thousand words" comes to mind.

Ryan Zimmerman 6 years, 9 months ago

All in all, it comes down to the fact that we need Greene on this team. He is by far the best pure shooter on the court. Not to discount Selden by any means, but Selden can dunk, drive, hit short jumpers too. When he hits threes, it's awesome but he's not as one dimensional on the offensive end as Greene. If Greene isn't on the FT line or beyond the arc, he's not bringing much... HOWEVER, he is a huge asset to have on the floor because he helps our inside game as much as the outside game. He keeps defenders honest, especially a zone. When you have a guy that is good as he is from 3, it detracts some defense away from Perry and the others underneath. I was hoping Svi would be that guy, but he isn't. Wayne is the closest we have to that, but Selden does so much other stuff out there, it helps to have another threat.

Nick Kramer 6 years, 9 months ago

Here's a slightly different take. I think the protocol of standing around doing nothing when the clock winds out to show your sportsmanship is roughly 20 years old. I prefer putting in the walk-ons and other subs and letting them play it out. I liked that Roy made a special point of taking out the starters so they could receive an ovation and letting the Lane Czaplinkski's get their 60 seconds in front of the crowd as a reward for their dedication in practice. I don't regard it as disrespectful to have Clay, Tyler, or Evan attempt a trey in the closing seconds. I would feel the same if we were on the other end of the score.

Cedric Spire 6 years, 9 months ago

Self gets paid 6 million dollars a year it was a rediclous overblown reaction. Bill's words did more harm to KU and the program than BG's meaningless dunk. If it was a heated game and he did it to run it in would be one thing butt no one reacted like it was a big deal. This is more about Bill'so ego than anything. He has no idea how to motivate this team and BG is his whipping boy. If I was BG'so parents I would be irate. Who wants their kid to be called out on National TV is this manner. Self is no angle dropping f bombs on the side line and making. I couldn't say that to one of my employees or eye would get suspended.

Mike Nicco 6 years, 9 months ago

What a weird season so far! Even if it's not playing to our expectations, I've never witnessed from a Coach Self team what I'm seeing this year. Has he lost this team?
The OU game solidified my opinion the Coach Self treasures Big 12 titles more than making a deep run in the NCAA. He likes to play the percentages. And as long as he gets to play in Allen Fieldhouse, they are in his favor during the conference season.
I thought more people might pick up on the fact he said (I think it was during the 94 Feet with Jay Bilas interview) he would love to coach Kawhi Leonard...

Paul Jefferson 6 years, 9 months ago

I am a Jayhawk; I've worn the colors on the fields, courts, tracks and courses. The imbroglio involving B. Greene is ..almost less than nothing. I've never liked the 'running out the clock strategy, in any sport, and I think KU should always 'play to the end'. 'Class' is what KU has in spades, so it's not that that I disagree with. But particularly when KU has developed a habit of sloughing off, running hot and cold, I think we should play hard for 40 minutes. Other teams do it. ..Why not Practice last second sets --run the weave --throw bounce passes or chest passes back and forth (if the other team will let you) --they would certainly try to score if they get their hands on the ball, right? Just vbe active to the very end! ...Long way to get to this. If I was Brannen Greene, and was intentionally indicted by my coach for an unintentional act, and he was trying to 'throw me under the bus, I would simply pack my things, tell the coach, with all due respect, that I didn't want to cause him further embarrassment, and gracefulyy leave the team and teammates to find something better. The relationship has soured, irreparably, and it's simply time to move on...and for ever RockChalk Jayhawk for what might have been.

Jim Stauffer 6 years, 9 months ago

Well, Matt. Seems like your twitter responses are quite different than the ones on here. It is definite that most on here believe Self went overboard.

Cowherd used the term dictator. Seems he may have been right. Where is the report from the Journal's journalist who interviewed Brannen to get his thoughts?

Yeah, I know. The dictator says we can't do that. It might put some things in perspective.

Let's be real. Coach has had a bad year. Maybe it was the pressure of trying for No. 12, I don't know, but this team was playing lights out until we got to conference play. Running the court, hitting threes at a record pace because they were on the move constantly and keeping the floor open. They came to conference play and suddenly Coach seems to think something is wrong and begins to sell the idea that every time down the court the ball needs to go to Perry inside. Doesn't matter if the guy guarding him is taller and intimidates his shot, that became our offense. If that didn't work then it was time for Frank to drive headlong into a 7 footer and try to shoot over him.

What Self doesn't like about this team is they play best when they run and gun. But I fear that makes him think of Roy's teams and he doesn't like that so we slow it down and play half court all the time.

He is frustrated because he has taken a team considered to be one of a Final Four category and turned them into middle of the pack in the Big 12.

Janet Olin 6 years, 9 months ago

Agree. It's totally on Coach that the team isn't running and pushing the ball hard like they did earlier in the season. For whatever reason, slowing the offense isn't working and Coach needs to go back to the exciting offense they played earlier.

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