Bringing perspective to Beaty's big weekend


Newly named Kansas University football coach David Beaty made up for lost time in the recruiting grind last weekend by not only getting 11 members of the Class of 2015 to visit campus and but also by picking up seven oral commitments since Saturday night.

The first future Jayhawk to commit came Saturday evening, four more prospects joined him on Sunday and the latest to pledge their services to Kansas delivered the good news bright and early Monday morning and again early Monday afternoon.

The news of these commitments spread like wildfire on KU message boards and Twitter and added even more shine to Beaty's reputation as a solid recruiter.

But it's not necessarily the players who Beaty picked up that made his weekend haul impressive. It was the fact that he was able to pull it all together so quickly in the first place and without much of his coaching staff on board that caught my eye.

Beaty had prior relationships with a couple of the guys who committed, but he had had no contact whatsoever with a couple of the others. The fact that those guys were not only willing to visit Kansas, but, in some cases, also visited despite already having committed elsewhere speaks to the strength of Beaty's relationships in Texas.

At least a couple of these prospects said the bond between Beaty and their high school coach carried enough weight for them to give KU a look. After that, the ball was in Beaty's court, and, Beaty, like so many coaches who came before him in his current job, has said he believed KU's chances of landing a guy increase dramatically if he can just get guys to visit campus.

That proved to be true with half a dozen guys in the past few days, and, although they might not all pan out, they seem to be the kinds of players KU needs to sign to get the rebuilding project off the ground.

Most of them are good athletes with impressive resumes, and many of them were overlooked by the “big schools” because those places fill their commitment lists with four- and five-star guys each year, not the two- and three-star guys who came to campus last weekend.

If nothing else, that idea should offer a little perspective for the furious weekend of recruiting that was. These guys all appear to be worthy prospects. And a couple of them have some impressive size, skills and stats. But they're far from a guarantee and they still need to be coached and developed and put through the grind of college football before we really have any idea what kind of players they can be — especially in the Big 12 Conference.

Beaty knows that. And he's willing to put the time in to make it happen. He's also planning to hire a coaching staff that thinks the same way.

Recruiting is a contagious business. Year after year, with program after program, fans often get caught up in the hype and promise of what a prospect looks like on paper or what his high school statistics might lead them to dream he could become in college. It's understandable. But at a place like KU, it's important to remember both sides of the coin. Given the fact that so many recent recruits have failed to pan out, that should not be too hard to remember for Jayhawk football fans.

That's not to diminish what Beaty and company accomplished this weekend, though. What they did was impressive. And it's important mostly because it shows — with actions rather than words — what Beaty is all about when it comes to recruiting. Substance over style.

See, two years ago at this time, the Kansas football program was in the middle of building what was dubbed the #DreamTeam2013. It was made up mostly of highly ranked junior-college prospects and featured some incredibly outgoing personalities, many of whom now appear to have something to fall back on in terms of a marketing and promotions career since the whole big-time football thing did not work out.

To be fair, a few of the guys in that “Dream Team” class did make a significant impact on the KU program. Dexter McDonald and Cassius Sendish were two-year starters in the secondary, Ngalu Fusimalohi and Mike Smithburg started both of their seasons on the O-Line and Trevor Pardula single-handedly fixed KU's punting woes.

But those were not the guys who were talking the most during the recruiting period. Guys like Marquel Combs, Marcus Jenkins-Moore, Chris Martin and others were the names that wowed people — as much for their excitement and enthusiasm as their rankings — but those guys never played a down for the Jayhawks. And their failure to pan out and eventual departures from the program left a hole in KU's roster that Beaty is now trying to fill.

He'll have to be creative to do it, and he'll have to work twice as hard as he would at an established program. But, again, he appears to be ready and willing to do just that and what he got done last weekend was definitely a good start.


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Bville Hawk 7 years, 12 months ago

"It's more about the Jimmies and the Joes than the X's and the O's," Barry Switzer, I think.

Anxious now to see who Beaty hires to fill out his staff.

Aaron Paisley 7 years, 12 months ago

At OU, yes because they can bring in superior talent. At a place like KU that doesn't bring in superior talent, it is all about the X's and O's to beat other programs. Superior X's and O's is how Bill Snyder has kept KSU going because they definitely don't have superior talent.

Bville Hawk 7 years, 11 months ago

Bill Snyder doesn't have superior talent? Than who? Snyder is just exceptionally good at recognizing talent potential. Look at the players he has placed in the NFL over his tenure for proof. He maybe doesn't have the top to bottom highly rated players that UT has most years, but I think Bill Snyder would be the first to admit (as most successful coaches will) that good players make good coaches and great players make great coaches.

All that being said, I've always wondered how many fewer games Bill Snyder would have won over his career if he hadn't struck the "Lockett motherlode" back with Tyler's dad (Kevin?), then Uncle Aaron (I think). Were there any others?

Lucas Town 7 years, 11 months ago

Tyler Lockett just became a 4 time all-American. Snyder gets great players as do other schools across the country. He just knows what to do with them when he gets them. If Snyder had James Sims, he would have been an all-American. That is a great system for backs, Sims was better than that John Hubert. K-State won a ton of games those 4 years and they had a passing attack. No doubt Sims would have been an all-American had he played the same amount of time he did at KU.

Lance Cheney 7 years, 12 months ago

I've seen people post this saying about a dozen times since the coaching search began, and now I've seen it both ways. Is it about the X's and O's or the Jimmies and Joes? Because I think somebody's got it backwards...

Robert Brown 7 years, 12 months ago

It is still going to come down to coaching and player development and I am optimistic what I have seen so far. Of course there is always a honey moon period with a new coach. Weis made a splash early with high profile transfers which to me always looked like an attempted short cut.

This coaching staff seems to be willing to roll up their sleeves and do the hard work necessary to build a program. I never got that feeling from the previous two coaching staffs.

Kevin Robert Fest 7 years, 12 months ago

if Beaty works this hard to recruit and has the enthusiasm and belief in the program as Bowen. If he can hire like minded coaches I'm hopeful as to where he can take this. Lots of 2s and 3s but so does KSU so I'm anxious to see how he starts coachin em up. Iim more hopeful after only a week with Beaty then I ever was when Gil or Weis was running things. Remember most of these kids are freshman not all will be like Avery. Want to see the new offense and defense.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 11 months ago

61% (11) of 18 current recruits ( are HS players.

Technically, that is most of the class, but 7 JC's (and counting) is still a big number, because we are still trying to dig ourselves out of the roster hole caused by the former coaching changes. Well, that and having half of the "dream team" (nightmare?) never find the field.

The 39% will need to step in right away (~ to McDonald, Sendish, Johnson, ...) It helps that almost all of the second half of the 2 deep does return. It would be nice if a few of the redshirts were able to start contributing next year as well.

Steve Corder 7 years, 12 months ago

Since little to nothing has been said about the staff, can we assume the coaches on Beaty's short list might be coaching in upcoming bowl games?

What's up with the other KU coaches? Any cleaned out their desk yet, or are they in a coaching limbo?

Dirk Medema 7 years, 11 months ago

All but Reggie and Bowen are gone.

There is a month long recruiting (players) dead period, so my guess is that Beaty+2 made this player blitz leading up to today. He'll likely focus the next week, 2 weeks max, on getting an OC and position coaches, so they can have a couple weeks to get ready for the final recruiting blitz before Feb signing day.

Lucas Town 7 years, 12 months ago

Don't we always beat KSU in the recruiting game? I am not reading into recruiting standings yet. We have 19 recruits and they have 14. Probably the difference in the standings for the moment. But we seem to have all sorts of momentum since the hiring Coach Beaty. RCJH!

Aaron Paisley 7 years, 12 months ago

And if Beaty can't bring in coaches capable of developing that talent, it doesn't mean a thing.

Ashwin Rao 7 years, 12 months ago

How do some schools have >25 recruits? I thought 25 was the ceiling?

Dirk Medema 7 years, 11 months ago

Over-recruiting is common, especially in the SEC. Sometimes it is allowed because a December commit can count towards a lesser number from the previous year. Sometimes, it is planning ahead for a "Wrench" getting thrown in the wheels so that you end up with a full class when it is all said and done.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 11 months ago

In 18 hrs and 13 minutes, things changed significantly.

KSU, with 3 less recruits is 1 place higher (61), and mizzoo, with 5 less recruits, is one place lower (63).

Unfortunately, we are currently tied with ISU for last in the Big 12 in pts / recruit at 55 (calculated), not posted. IMO, this is a more meaningful stat, since it removes the class size variable from the equation, and also provides more gradation than just avg stars, since puts factors in whether the recruit is a high 2, 3, ...

School, Recruits, Pts, Avg

OU 16 1542 96.4

UT 20 1732 86.6

TT 12 1026 85.5

BU 13 1065 81.9

OSU 16 1155 72.2

TCU 21 1509 71.9

WVU 23 1584 68.9

KSU 15 998 66.5

KU 18 990 55.0

ISU 15 825 55.0

Jim Stauffer 7 years, 11 months ago

We will probably end up 9th or 10th in recruiting rankings. That should be the case since we have 3 guys essentially finishing out our class when all the other schools have a full staff and continuity.

As has been said, development is the key. Snyder never has the highest rankings but look where he finishes in the standings. Development.

Lucas Town 7 years, 11 months ago

KU and ISU are 11.5 points/recruit out of 8th in recruiting. KSU is 8th and is only 5.7 points/recruit out of 5th in the Big 12.

How significant are these gaps? Or are things closer than they look? Should we be concerned that we still aren't getting the recruits we need to turn this thing around?

Kevin Robert Fest 7 years, 11 months ago

Is anyone aware if Trayhvon Wrench will be coming to KU since he had to spend a yr at JC because of his grades?

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