Preseason projection says KU's 2013 football schedule loaded with bowl teams once again


According to Jerry Palm of, the 2013 season will be another rough one for the Kansas University football team.

It's not that Palm projected the Jayhawks to win just one or two games — he may, but that's not what's in the news today — but rather that Palm projected that 9 of the 12 teams on KU's schedule for the upcoming season will qualify for bowl games when everything is said and done.

That projection includes two of the three non-conference opponents KU will face this season, as Palm has Rice (Sept. 14) slated to play in the Hawaii Bowl and Louisiana Tech (Sept. 21) slotted into the New Orleans Bowl.

The only members of KU's schedule not picked by Palm for the postseason are South Dakota (Sept. 7), Texas Tech (Oct. 5) and West Virginia (Nov. 16).

Both Tech and WVU made bowl appearances in 2012, when 11 of the 12 teams KU faced wound up in bowl games.

Such is life in the Big 12 Conference, where powerhouse programs like Texas, Oklahoma and, lately, Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Baylor, pop up on the schedule week in and week out. There are no down weeks in conference play, particularly for a team like KU, which is still in the middle of a rebuilding project, and that fact makes the road to respectability even tougher to travel for KU coach Charlie Weis and company.

I guess, in a way, the 2013 schedule might actually set up better for KU than last year's slate. Time will tell. But the good news — if you're looking for it — is that KU will face two of Palm's three projected non-bowl opponents during the first four games of the season.

It's been said before, and even proven to be true around here, but getting off to a good start drastically can change the way a season unfolds.

The fun begins in less than four months.


Tony Bandle 9 years, 7 months ago


Based on this article, the measure of KU's football program progress this upcoming season may possibly not be measured in a significant increase in the number of victories but rather a manifestation of a higher degree of competiveness across the board.

I have great respect for your opinion and expertise. Do you feel Charlie's program is beginning to gain traction toward a future of good football?

Joe Ross 9 years, 7 months ago

No! Last season was only disappointing if your measuring stick for progress was wins and losses. The product on the field was much more entertaining than the year prior, and that's true despite the frustration with the passing game and special teams. All facets of the game should be improved this year: passing, receiving, running, special teams and defense. If you accept the fact that Kansas is in a rebuilding mode, you can find entertainment in watching the team be competitive and, at the very least, not getting mopped up by other teams. If you put your enjoyment in progress rather than wins and losses, you won't be disappointed.

clevelandjayhawker 9 years, 7 months ago

The only disappointment I had was us not having a kicker that could make a 45 yarder and kick 50% of the kickoff through the endzone. I think this would have changed the out come of 2-3 games. By the 3rd week you knew we were going to run a fake or go for on 4th down, even if we were on the 20, it just killed the momentum.

I hope by the end of next year teams fear playing us. A team that will run it down your throat with a stable of good backs, then hit you for big yards when you try and stop the they have the best D in the conference. (I think Campo is that good and will have the depth to show it this year)

Tony Bandle 9 years, 7 months ago

AzHawk..I tend to agree with your assessment, although I am hoping the upgrade at QB and Kicker will make a significant difference.[at both positions, the only direction is up, don't you agree?].

Somehow, I thought there was a remote chance we'd get to 6-6 last season. If these two positions had been strong, we darn near might have made it!!

2008KUGrad 9 years, 7 months ago

I agree with Oakville. If we had a good pass-catch unit & good kicker, the record would have been different. You all are forgetting the games against Rice, NIU, TCU, OSU, UT, & on the road vs TTU were all close & could have swung our way if we had the right pieces.

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Agree with " Receivers couldn't catch ". Would like to add " Passers couldn't pass " and " Kickers couldn't kick ". I think we had some blockers that blocked and some rushers that rushed, but i hope we make vast improvements in some of those other areas.

Matt Tait 9 years, 7 months ago

In my opinion, there's no question that good football is in the future. It's going to be tough to reach that level of being considered "really good" just because of the historical challenges at KU and the fact that the Jayhawks play in the Big 12, but I think good is on its way.

It starts with overhauling the mental side of things, which Weis — through the help of dismissals and graduation — has already done. Then you have to get better talent, which he is working on and then you have to prove it on the field in a consistent manner.

As long as you continue to view this thing as a process that will take time and enjoy the small steps forward that come, I think you'll enjoy the end product in the next few years.

As I said above, time will tell. But as someone who covers this stuff day in and day out, it's a lot more fun to do today than it was two years ago.

Steve Corder 9 years, 7 months ago

Regardless, I am looking forward to this season.

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Me too. I'm already burned out on baseball.

Micky Baker 9 years, 7 months ago

I'm not. Kansas has a chance to put pressure on both K-State and Oklahoma if KU wins 2 of 3 against K-State or even sweeps this weekend. K-State and Oklahoma play each other for 3 next week. Kansas could move into second and force K-State to win 2 of 3 which would mean Kansas would still be in second place.

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Sorry I didn't clarify, I meant MLB. I played baseball / softball probably half my life and I love playing and the sights, smells and sounds of being at the ball park. I just can't stand to watch the pros on TV.

jgkojak 9 years, 7 months ago

I recall 3 near-misses last season against quality teams - N Illinois Rice Texas

all of which KU would have won if we had ANY kicker

and a couple TCU Oklahoma State

that having a kicker would have made darn close -

I see us winning a couple of those next season

texashawk10 9 years, 7 months ago

You left off the double-OT loss to Texas Tech.

Clarence Haynes 9 years, 7 months ago

I am always skeptical of these so called pundits. I get the sense that they make superficial evaluations purely based on reputation. For example, virtually every year, they say that Texas is going to win it all and obviously they have blown it. We came very close to defeating 4 or 5 teams last year and if we win those games, it would be interesting what they might say about this year. Rock Chalk!

clevelandjayhawker 9 years, 7 months ago

If the ref would have called the hold, we had caught the int, or there would be some sort of penalty for faking an injury to get a timeout we beat texas. Made me mad, but not nearly as mad as i was in 2005 when we got screwed over...we will beat them as long as mack brown isnt fired in the next 2-3 years.

TalkSense 9 years, 7 months ago

"Both Tech and WVU made bowl appearances in 2012, when 11 of the 12 teams KU faced wound up in bowl games."

KU's 12th opponent, and the only team we beat - South Dakota State - made it into the FCS post-season, beating Eastern Illinois before losing to North Dakota State, the eventual FCS champion. In a sense, all 12 of KU's opponents made it into bowl games last year.

Bear86 9 years, 7 months ago

Last Year KU should have won the following games: Rice, N.Illinois, TX & TT. I'm optimistic KU can win at least 2-3 games this coming season but there is no doubt this will be another painful year of Jayhawk Football.

Jack Jones 9 years, 7 months ago

Yes, it could well be ''painfuL" , if one focuses on only the W-L's ~ the reality of the quality of football in the Big 12 virtually assures that could be the case. That's why any collegiate sports program ~ or any program, for that matter ~ must realistically be evaluated over a longer, rather than short time frame. It seems that we have become infected with this short term - what have you done for me lately? - instant gratification mentality ~ not only limited to sports, but in business, politics, and even in interpersonal relationships ~ to the detriment of our interaction in most anything and everything.

While last season was a disappointment insofar as W-L's, the improvement in the quality of play ~ and the fact that we were so close to winning several games in which we were, on paper, the decidedly underdog ~ was a significantly encouraging sign.

I believe our lives would be immeasurably improved, once we stepped back ~ took several deep breaths ~ relaxed ~ and laughed and smiled more.

And, thus ended today's combo Sociology/Psychology/KU Football class.



And thus ended today's combo Sociology/Psychology/KU football lesson.

pepper_bar 9 years, 7 months ago

KU future schedules:

2014 SE MO St / @ Duke / Central Michigan

2015 Memphis / @ Rutgers / [TBD]

2016 Ohio / @ Memphis / [TBD]

2017 Central Michigan / @ Ohio / [TBD]

2018 @ Central Michigan / Rutgers / [TBD]

Not too terribly daunting.

pepper_bar 9 years, 7 months ago

You can rest assured the TBDs will end up being D-II cupcakes most or all years.

CougIsLJW 9 years, 7 months ago

We're not allowed to play D-II teams.

Michael Leiker 9 years, 7 months ago

In other words let's all take it easy on the 6 win predictions and just let next year play itself out. I've enjoyed the improvement I've seen over the last year. Footballers have been ballin at the rec last month or so and you can see the differences.

Jim Stauffer 9 years, 7 months ago

The only objection I have to the predictions for us is the conference has much more parity in it than 6 to 7 years ago. There is not much difference in UT, OU, KSU, OSU, TCU and Baylor. The next grouping of ISU, TT and WVU are not that far behind about 1 out of 3 years. Then comes KU ready to join the second group.

This makes us competitive with the first group 1 out of 3 years. I think we will be the equal of the second group this year.

It remains to be seen if we can ever join the first group. Many say no, I say yes.

qringer 9 years, 7 months ago

With the low bar set for bowl qualification of 6 wins, the fact that 11 out of the 12 opponents made bowl games last year does NOT speak to the fact that 11 out of the 12 opponents were quality football programs. Most teams schedule patsies for their non-con.

Quit making excuses for the past, and quit making excuses for the future. We CAN compete this year and we can WIN games this year. A little self-confidence can go a long way toward some wins.

machinegun 9 years, 7 months ago

We will have to wait and see how Heaps handles adversity especially during this stretch: TCU (away), Oklahoma and Baylor (home), Texas and Oklahoma State (away). Based on what happened at Brigham Young, he cracked up when he was benched, i.e., "BYU: The Jake Heaps Conundrum". I expect more mental toughness than that from a big time QB, win or lose, rain or shine.

Bob Bailey 9 years, 6 months ago

Didn't any of you see the Spring Game?

They can't tackle. They can't 'cover'. And the Defensive Scheme is worthless without those two!

The problem is NOT talent.

The problem is they have not been taught those skills!

Weis is a great coach and a great Jayhawk. He should stay on at KU. But coaches everywhere seem to have lost track of Defense! Weis was fired at ND because his Offense could not make up for the points his Defense gave away. If you look at last year's scores, the same is true over again! Defense wins games. If someone doesn't intervene, we can wind up Wins - 0; Losses - 12.

With some good Defensive Coaching, the team could contend for the League Championship.

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