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Coaching Search 2011: Day 10, 4:16 p.m. - More on June Jones, Auburn and Wisconsin OC Paul Chryst; Plus, is Zenger now targeting NFL guys?

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4:16 p.m. Update:

More on the talks between June Jones and Arizona State breaking down... At this point, it'd be crazy not wonder if Jones could re-emerge as a candidate at KU. At this point, anything's possible.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/DouglasHaller/150269

One thing we should all have learned from the June Jones situation is that anything is possible. Remember, two days ago, there were credible reports of him saying he was happy at SMU and wasn't going anywhere. Then, he got to the freakin' board room at ASU with a contract in front of him and negotiations broke off.

So now what? He's either happy again or going somewhere else. You just never know.

Stay tuned...

3:56 p.m. Update:

With Gus Malzahn's name being linked to KU with such force lately, it inspired me to look into what's going on at Auburn. It looks like there could be trouble.

Auburn defensive coordinator Ted Roof recently announced that he was leaving Auburn to take the same position at Central Florida.

That might make a little more sense if Roof were leaving to become UCF's head coach. But defensive coordinator? Odd. Roof's the second guy to leave Gene Chizik's staff at Auburn since 2009. If Malzahn should leave, that would make three.

Definitely worth noting.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/12/report_defensive_coordinator_t.html

Stay tuned...

2:28 p.m. Update:

I'm seeing posts on message boards throughout the Internet saying that radio stations in and around Kansas City are reporting that Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn has been hired by KU. Evidently, that's not correct.

A quick call to an official who works at the university said the following:

"I can tell you right now there isn't anybody yet. They're reaching."

I figured as much, but worth checking on.

Stay tuned...

2:09 p.m. Update:

With reports surfacing that Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst has interviewed with Kansas University officials for KU’s open head coaching job, the race to find out more information about Chryst began.

Chryst, who also is rumored to have had discussions with Illinois about its vacancy, has become one of the hottest assistants in college football.

This year alone, his offense yielded one Heisman Trophy finalist in tailback Montee Ball and was just a few votes away from making it two in the form of quarterback Russel Wilson.

Although it’s not yet known how serious Chryst’s candidacy at KU has become or will become, the Badgers OC already has a connection to the program.

Former KU offensive lineman Brad Thorson played two seasons for Chryst at Wisconsin (2006 and 2007) before transfering to KU. I caught up with Thorson on Wednesday to hear his thoughts about Chryst, a man he admires greatly.

Here’s what he had to say:

“He comes off as very laid back, but when you start to spend time around the football program, you quickly learn that he was putting in a lot more time than the rest of the coaching staff. Not to prove anything, that’s just what he loved to do.”

“He was never really tempted by running the spread.”

“The two stats that he was most concerned about are time of possession and turnovers. That was something that was always expressed to us.”

“His concept of playing football is he’s still fine with three yards and a cloud of dust and believes that that’s going to turn into the 10-, 20- and 30-yard runs.”

“We’ve got great backs here, but we don’t play power football necessarily. He’s built that offense based on the fact that they don’t have a lot of receivers and they’ve got giant linemen from the state of Wisconsin and a big fullback and some good backs behind ’em.”

“He’s a very honest guy and his players have always really liked that.”

We’ll do some more digging to find out if Chryst is a finalist or an also ran.

Stay tuned...

1:27 p.m. Update:

Tom Keegan just filed a column with information from a source that says Zenger's focus is on NFL guys. Here's the link. Good stuff in here.

12:11 p.m. Update:

Just came across a story from a Wisconsin paper that says Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst met with KU officials about the football job, according to a source close to Chryst.

Not much more than that in the article regarding KU.

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/football/bowl/uw-football-chryst-met-with-kansas-about-vacant-head-coaching/article_96729448-2067-11e1-9655-0019bb2963f4.html

The way this is written makes it sound like Chryst isn't going anywhere. But he's definitely a guy worth keeping an eye on now that it's been reported that he actually met with KU.

I think he'd be a long shot, but I also didn't get to interview him.

Stay tuned...

11:16 a.m. Update:

Some of the SMU folks have gathered info from the Arizona State Rivals guys and posted it to their message boards. They're saying June Jones is headed to Arizona State. Here's the link.

http://www.ponyfans.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58591&sid=3fa5d9d93fc7dc9d1d2cce1aa136f24d

If true, that would seem to indicate that KU's final options look something like this:

Troy Calhoun, Air Force Dirk Koetter, Jacksonville Jags (by way of Boise State and Arizona State) Gus Malzahn, Auburn OC Mystery Candidate, Take your best guess

Stay tuned...

11:08 a.m. Update:

All right, so the Fedora to UNC stuff looks completely legit now. Figured it was, just didn't want to take him off the board in case there was something crazy going down.

Joe Schad of ESPN.com has Tweeted and written a report that Fedora has accepted the job.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7324963/north-carolina-tar-heels-offer-larry-fedora-southern-miss-golden-eagles-job-source-says

Diving into some more info and updates on June Jones and Troy Calhoun at the moment. Jones has said he's happy at SMU and Calhoun appears to be a top candidate for Texas A&M, but I'm not willing to count either guy out at KU yet.

Stay tuned...

10:21 a.m. Update:

Been making some more calls trying to find out where we're at with this thing and I've got some pretty concrete info on several candidates you've been wondering about. Still don't know for sure who the finalists are but I am hearing that Malzahn and Koetter are both likely in the mix for the job.

Here we go with some quick-hitters:

• Phil Fulmer's out. Was interested but won't be a candidate. Sounds like there were just too many roadblocks on both sides of this thing to make Fulmer a serious candidate.

• Doesn't look like Dave Christensen of Wyoming made the final list either. I've been told by two sources that he's discussing a contract extension at Wyoming.

• Houston Nutt is out and was never seriously considered. He was very interested in the job, though.

• Dave Doeren (Northern Illinois) is out and has not been contacted. It's also probably safe to say that Mark Stoops is out of the mix. Same for OU assistant Brent Venables.

• Names to keep an eye on: Troy Calhoun (Air Force), June Jones (SMU), Sonny Dykes (La. Tech)...

• I know it sounds crazy, but until there's rock solid confirmation that Larry Fedora's in at UNC, we can't let him slip our minds. I've heard that his interview with A&M was underwhelming for both parties and, if for some reason he decides against UNC or that falls apart, him coming to Kansas could become a reality. Highly doubting it's him, but until it's official at UNC, it seems like the possibility still exists, however slim it may be.

• As for Boise's Chris Petersen, Tuesday has come and gone so I'm doubting it's him. It's pretty quiet on that front, though, so I'm not giving up entirely. Less than 1% chance, I'd say. Talked to a former athletic department staffer from Boise who knows him well and he said "not in a million years." He also said he thought Koetter would do a great job here and that he thinks Koetter wants a chance to redeem himself for the way he was fired from Arizona State.

I've got in an in with the Jacksonville Jaguars coaching staff and I'm trying to go through him to get some info on if Koetter's been talking about the job at all, perhaps to the point of even asking my guy to come to KU with him. As I said yesterday, I put in a call to Koetter and left him a message but haven't heard back. Wouldn't read too much into that either way.

For what it's worth, I'm feeling stronger and stronger about Koetter by the minute...

At this point, it's just a waiting game. I'll keep pounding the phones, but these coaches aren't answering or calling back and the agents have gone quiet, too.

I do think we're getting close. Multiple people are telling me that and I have other reasons to believe that's the case.

Stay tuned...

8:49 a.m. Update:

Maybe they were just Internet rumors spit out by people (is that the right word?) who have no clue what they’re talking about.

Maybe they have merit.

Either way, talk on Twitter of the Kansas University football program’s search for a new head coach heated up like crazy late Tuesday night.

First, rumors ran wild about Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter being KU’s likely target. No one said anything outlandish, more just the usual stuff, such as, “I’m hearing it’s going to be Koetter.” OK. Sure. Sounds good. But, hey, it made sense. Koetter’s name has been linked to KU’s list for several days now, and the guy has college head coaching experience at two fairly big-time programs.

Just when the Koetter chatter started sinking in, Twitter blew up with rumors of a deal between Gus Malzahn being complete. Naturally, I immediately started making calls and searching the web for any kind of substantiated story about the Auburn offensive coordinator becoming KU’s next head coach. Nothing.

I’m not saying it can’t happen. I’m not even saying it won’t happen. But everyone I talked to Tuesday night thought the same thing — it just didn’t add up.

That’s Twitter for ya. Love it or hate it, use it or abuse it, this is the world we now live in.

All right, so as KU’s search enters Day 10 — and, by the way, all signs are pointing to this thing coming to an end real soon — I figured why not at least entertain the idea that Malzahn and Koetter have emerged as KU’s top two targets and pit them against each other in a little Tale of the Tape exercise. After all, this is Tale of the Tait.

Here goes:

Category-----Malzahn-----Koetter
Age-----46-----52
Birthplace----Irving, Tex.-----Pocatello, Id.
HC exp.------None-----9 years (Boise State and Arizona State)
HS exp.-----15 years-----2 years
NCAA exp.-----6 years-----29 years
NFL exp.-----None-----5 years (Jacksonville)
Schools-----3 (OC at 3)-----7 (OC at 5)
Record-----N/A-----66-44
Bowls-----5------6
Titles-----2 (2010 NCAA & SEC)-----2 (Big West in 1999 and 2000)

All right. Let’s see what today brings. While we wait for news and while I search for some more answers, here are a couple more videos on the guys who could be at the top of the list if these Twitter rumors have legs.

Remember, it’s still very possible that it could be neither of these guys and even could be a coach who hasn’t received much mention during the search, if any.

Stay tuned...

Malzahn profile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHXaeE9IyYQ

Summer interview with Malzahn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRuLpCg_wPA

Recent Koetter postgame interview: http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery/videos/Koetter-press-conference/653964b7-cbee-468d-9400-4d12c49de27d

Coach Speak with Brian Billick and Dirk Koetter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZIcmxljMvU

Comments

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Almost seems as if we are picking through leftovers?

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

This is almost necessarily true. But so what? Sometimes leftovers are better.

It's more about fit and timing, getting the right guy for KU here now.

Some guys might not even be "leftovers", but dishes other schools have ignored altogether in their search for rock stars. I'm hoping Zenger lands the next Snyder now: an under sung, overlooked cat who's just right for us.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Agreed and I hope we get a diamond in the rough, I'm just disgusted with the perception that everyone has about KU football. We all love our basketball program but after a couple of decent seasons, it seems we all want that back! I'm expecting to hear something today....

Matt Bowers 10 years, 10 months ago

Does anyone believe we have a shot at Peterson with the conference realignment? I know that he has a great gig at Boise, but their travel when they enter the Big East will be ungodly. It is just a thought. Of the two Matt mentioned, which would be the better fit at KU?

Rock Chalk

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Based on some of the crap I've read about Koetter, the guy sounds like a douche, a virus for our program. I'd much rather have Malzahn even though his resume may appear less appealing. A lot of great head coaches were coordinators at their previous gigs. Either way, we need good coordinators. I couldn't stress that enough.

Jayhawk1116 10 years, 10 months ago

No way. He now has the easiest way to a BCS game and a national championship game. Doubt he cares about travel.

Kenny Terry 10 years, 10 months ago

I agree with you. I hope they at least throw a offer to him and make him think about it

ARJHAWK22 10 years, 10 months ago

I have lived down here in Arkansas for almost 20 years and have watched Malzahn go from great high school head coach to great college OC. Don't discount him. He would be an excellent hire. He is a great offensive mind and he has won everywhere he has coached. He is also known to be a great recruiter. The biggest question if he is hired will be how long will he stay because he will be a hot commodity is a few years after making the Jayhawks a winner. Also, by being in the SEC for the past few years he knows what champions look like and play like.

UKSHL 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm hearing that June Jones is still available. He has both NFL and College experience. ASU wanted him but has hit a snag in the contract. Let's make a run at him. Big name and good experience.

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt, Thanks for all the info this past week! I'm going to really have to do my homework with these dudes (if it is one of them), as I don't know squat other than one of them was lucky enough to coach Cam Newton!

BringBackNike 10 years, 10 months ago

2 names that definitely wouldn't excite the masses at all...

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Okay, then name someone that we can actually land, that will excite the masses? Or at least excite you.

The_Real_Hawkman 10 years, 10 months ago

June has already stated he is staying at SMU

shinanigins 10 years, 10 months ago

I think both of these could be exciting. They would at least bring a burst of offense to the field that would at least make the first season or two fun to watch as we try to bring in a good amount of offense and develop a quarterback. Malzahn has a NCAA title to hang in front of potential recruits and Koetter can show past success at college and dangle NFL connections.

squintseugene1 10 years, 10 months ago

i agree Malzhan recruited cam newton and we all have seen how good that was so maybe KU can get the next cam newton only without the NCAA investigation. he could also bring in good coordinators. look at what Malzhan did at his last 2 OC jobs before Auburn. In Arkansas he had one of the best running game in the NCAA history in 06, Tulsa was the only team with a 5000 yard passer, a 1000 yard rusher, and 3 1000 yard receivers.

Bee Bee 10 years, 10 months ago

If KU puts up 180k, maybe they can get the next Scam Newton. Money talks!

squintseugene1 10 years, 10 months ago

well first of all yes money talks and maybe if KU can get a better coach they could put more fans in the seats and get more money.second of all the NCAA found nothing wrong with Cameron Newton his dad was in the wrong so you may want to fact check right there. finally the NCAA was investigating Mississippi st. not auburn it would be like if KSU was going to give a recruit money to a KU player then the NCAA would investigate KSU not KU

LSHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

I hope its not Malzahn, just not that impressive. Looks like Koetter could be a good choice but I think the longer there is no word out of NC the better, might mean Zenger is putting a fight to get Fedora.

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 10 years, 10 months ago

I hope you're right about both points! Malzahn doesn't seem to be a good choice at all... No head coaching experience, from the SEC, and his major success is coincidentally linked with Cam Newton's stay. Don't get that choice.

Andy Hess 10 years, 10 months ago

Have you not seen what he did in previously at Arkansas? Darren McFadden? Felix Jones?

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Malzahn would be fine. Most of the people that are against hiring him probably don't really know much about the guy. He would be a solid hire and should be able to recruit well in B12 and SEC land. Look at what he did as a HS coach in Arkansas. Everything around him was successful. His offensive status is great he just would need to get some really good coordinators. Everyone is so fixated on the HC position when you could argue the coordinator positions are just as important. (if not more) I don't have any doubt that if TG hired better coordinators, we could have won 2 more games this year.

parrothead8 10 years, 10 months ago

His "major" success is linked to Cam Newton? You're kidding, right? Try taking a look at what the offenses did in the year he spent at Arkansas, or the few years he was at Tulsa. Look at what his offenses did at the high school level in Arkansas.

Cam Newton couldn't crack the starting lineup at Florida. He went to a community college for a year, then landed at Auburn with Gus Malzahn. It's closer to the truth to say that Cam Newton's major success is coincidentally linked to Gus Malzahn.

Malzahn is a genius with offenses. There's a reason why Auburn has made him the highest-paid offensive coordinator in college football, and there's a reason why he's been named OC of the year twice in five years. If KU can get him, they'd be lucky.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Couldn't have said it better myself...

Andy Hess 10 years, 10 months ago

Malzahn is an offensive genius. Why you wouldn't want him is beyond me.

squawkhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Because KU doesn't have a Cam Newton. Funny how an outstanding QB can make any OC or HC look good.

Andy Hess 10 years, 10 months ago

Have you even followed his offenses in Arkansas and Tulsa? Darren McFadden? Felix Jones? Wildhog formation? Maybe you should learn more about a guy other than his last 2 years of work before you start talking.

squintseugene1 10 years, 10 months ago

that is one of the most asinine things I have ever heard you know it is funnier how an outstanding QB mixed with an outstanding OC and HC. Cam got less time his freshman year than Tim Tebow. Look at the records his offense set at Tulsa with not the greatest talent on their team.

actorman 10 years, 10 months ago

You're right on, squint. It sounds like some people are just happier to find things to bitch about, even when they don't exist.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

Koetter and Malzahn along with Fulmer would make me happy.

The question would become how long would Fulmer and Koetter stay in coaching? How long would Malzahn stay at KU if he succeeded?

Robert Brock 10 years, 10 months ago

We would probably give him three years before firing him.

actorman 10 years, 10 months ago

That's hysterically funny, Brock. You're right; if somehow Turner Gill got placed into the body of Malzahn or whoever KU hired, then he probably would be fired within two or three years.

jhawknc 10 years, 10 months ago

I lived in the Phoenix area when Koetter became head coach at ASU. It was a disaster. He couldn't recruit, couldn't get along with his players or the fans...arrogant and condesending to everyone. He's NOT right for Kansas.

lama 10 years, 10 months ago

Huge off-the-field problems, not personable and was hated by ASU boosters.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

Maybe one of these guys is a home run, but I would imagine that both would be underwhelming picks. Malzhan has no head coaching experience and one Koetter left Boise, he has only been marginally successful. Jacksonville's offense is nothing to write home about and most would say the Blaine Gabbert has not developed very quickly this year. Auburn has taken a step back now that Cam Newton is gone.

Matt- one name that intrigues me that has not been mentioned is Butch Jones at Cincinnati. Do you know if he is on KU's radar.

Also, why do you perceive that the search will heat up?

Thanks as always for the frequent updates.

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 10 years, 10 months ago

I don't understand that either. What signs are pointing to this being over soon?

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

The big names are being taken off the board, which means that is narrowing down the choices for these schools (including us) that are looking for someone. Leach - WSU, Fedora - UNC (probably), Sumlin - Staying at UH, June Jones - Staying at SMU, Petersen - DEFINITELY not coming to KU (I wish he was).

It makes sense to me, I'm just not very good at explaining it. Sorry.

Mike Barnhart 10 years, 10 months ago

Two great options! Hope Zenger finds us a "hidden gem" and not a "usual suspect"!

tahawk81 10 years, 10 months ago

I think by the end of the day we will have our guy, for better or worse. Not to excited about either of the 2 mentioned but really dont know much about them either. I did google Malzahn's wife, worth doing if you have not yet. That could be pretty entertaining in itself. I think my favorite is Fulmer.

swavity 10 years, 10 months ago

Not sure I agree with your conclusion that she's worth doing - seems a bit crazy.

jay381 10 years, 10 months ago

As I posted previously I am not a Fulmer fan. With that said however; if given the choice between Fulmer and this pair I would be a Fulmer fan in a heartbeat. Malzahn and that HS team and QB in Springdale absolutely split the entire AR fan base and his wife if well "odd". This year his offense was nothing special. Cam Newton would make any OC look like a hero the prior year. I have friends in AZ that essentially say the same thing as jhawknc posted above. As I said if is a choice between this pair Fulmer looks good.

sevenyearhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

  • It is established that the person conducting the interview with Kristi Malzahn is Dr. Ronnie Floyd, a pastor of over 35 years whose "experience, wisdom and passion for God make him a powerful proclaimer of God's word." That may all be true, but his hair makes him a televangelist. Just saying.

  • Floyd talks about how Gus Malzahn turned down $3 million to become a head coach at places but "we know that day will come for him." Little did Floyd know we were 30 minutes away from that not happening.

  • Kristi starts in on how happy she is that her kids are out of the house, to the point where she does a mini "hand and body shake" gesture

  • Kristi tells all the Auburn fans (and college football fans in general) that they are absolutely nuts, and she marvels that anyone would want her husband's autograph.

  • Kristi talks about a trip she and Gus made to Lou Holtz's house, and she pokes fun at Holtz's lisp, which admittedly I've done before on my show. But then again, I'm not the wife of an aspiring college football head coach.

  • Kristi reveals that Gus is in the office at 7:15 a.m. and comes home at 1:15 a.m. Which is about six hours less expected, given howthis video went.

  • Kristi was not impressed by Gus's offense performance in the national championship game. "22 points? Really?" I'm starting to think that Kristi is a little tough to please. Perhaps even a little entitled. God help Gus if he doesn't bring it in the bedroom in those eight minutes per day that he's actually at home.

  • The overly smug look on her face as Floyd tries to figure out why exactly he asked her to come speak at this event is priceless. Also, it's the first time in this video that I suspect she may be mixing her meds.

  • Floyd asks her about Cam Newton, and this is no joke -- Kristi Malzahn either thinks Newton is a Hollywood cake boy or she wants to sleep with him. With the "he's cute" and "he's a pretty boy" comments, it's one or the other.

  • "I love him" whisper about Cam. We have our answer.

  • Kristi reveals that Newton's recruitment lasted all of two weeks. Why not just give us the serial numbers on the hundred-dollar bills that filled the briefcase you handed to his dad? A two-week recruitment leading to a signing of the soon-to-be Heisman Trophy winner. Not suspicious at all.

  • Kristi outs Gus for literally crying about not being able to please Cam Newton, and she punctuates it with an unsympathetic "welcome to my world," so apparently Kristi Malzahn has a hard time satisfying Cam Newton, too.

  • She's on Twitter!

  • Kristi calls pretty much all 18- to 22-year-olds stupid, which may get brought up in recruiting against Auburn, seeing as recruits are all, you know, around 18 years old.

  • Kristi reveals that the pregame ritual is "recruiting." Coach Malzahn, the NCAA is on line one.

There's a reason why coaches' wives don't meet with the media. You just spent the last 12 minutes watching it.

Hawkjock 10 years, 10 months ago

Video...gone! Twitter...gone! Facebook...gone! This pair is not what we need. He may be great, but his drama would not be helpful.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

This needs to change or we are going to end up in the Mountain West... just sayin'

sevenyearhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

If we're lucky ...

I suppose the Big Mess (East) is always an option.

hawkfan30 10 years, 10 months ago

I disagree I was raised a KSU fan and eventually went to school at KU and now I bleed blue and red. However, I remember going to K-State games when I was little, my dad is a KSU alum, and the stadium was not full nor as big as it is now. Snyder's turn-around at KSU is the cause of KSU having that draw in football today. (See the Ron Prince years).

I think if we hire Fulmer he sticks around for more than 3-4 years. IMO this is where Fulmer's age is a benefit in hiring him, my guess is he's looking for a place to finish out his career. Opposed to these up and coming coaches who are looking to increase their stock. I think Fulmer would bring the draw to football at KU that Snyder did to KSU.

lama 10 years, 10 months ago

There were empty seats at Saturday's game against Iowa State.

gripp42 10 years, 10 months ago

So why can't it now? It's this attitude that drives me crazy. KSU pre Snyder didn't have what you say we don't have...it obviously changed. Being mad our program sucks is one thing but saying it is hopeless is awful. Why follow the team then?

jhwkswn 10 years, 10 months ago

"No coach that comes to KU will stay longer then 3-4 years even with a successful year"

This is why Mangino was a perfect fit at KU. He wasn't going anywhere... for a couple reasons.

Sam Brockert 10 years, 10 months ago

K-State never had a draw for football either before Snyder. Remember their nickname? Futility U.

DSKornkage 10 years, 10 months ago

Weren't they even talking about giving up football? I may be wrong there but thought I had heard something like that.

Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Why do people still say this? We have everything you would want as a coach wanting to come in a build a program. We have a good university, a power conference (knock on wood), good facilities (still need to get the track out of the stadium), and most importantly we have a fan base. Say what you want about KU being a basketball school, but when the football team shows signs of life Memorial Stadium sells out. It will take some work, but there is a LOT more going at KU than K-State ever had before it's turnaround.

railer20 10 years, 10 months ago

Why not...K-state was the laughing stock of college football before Snyder....worse than KU is now by a long shot. Why can't KU bring in someone who changes the culture of football in Lawrence. I know we aren't Ohio State or Florida by any means, but they prove that you can have success in two sports.

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 10 months ago

K-State was a basketball school until Snyder. To what draw are you referring?

actorman 10 years, 10 months ago

How old are you, hihawk, 12?!?!? Do you understand the concept of history? How about if you actually use that thing in your head (you know, the part that's called a "brain") and check out KSUck's past before you make such an incredibly asinine comment.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 10 months ago

KU would have got a BCS game with a 10-2 record...KSU did not!

John Myers 10 years, 10 months ago

Hey Matt,

You say "all signs are pointing to this thing coming to an end real soon," yet we have absolutely no concrete evidence or confirmation of anything happening at all. Can you clarify what signs are pointing to it coming to an end?

Thanks again for all your hard work on this! I can't count how many times I refresh the site every day.

~John

Matt Tait 10 years, 10 months ago

It's just something you're gonna have to trust me on. Sorry. I'm talking to dozens of people and all of their stories seem to line up. As much of a gut read as anything, but the people I'm talking to do know what's going on and are involved in some manner...

John Myers 10 years, 10 months ago

Oh, I totally trust you, was just curious. Thanks for the reply!

AcesWild 10 years, 10 months ago

matt i recpect put seriously i wonder if any of of them no what there doing they should of had a target brought the next coach in no matter the coast they could have raises ticket prices they falled mike leach you would been talking seating
not giveing away seat .this is big bussiness

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

For all those against Malzahn for not having head coaching experience and just being a coordinator, then Kansas has made that mistake before.

Roy Williams, only an assistant at UNC.

Mark Mangino, offensive coordinator at OU.

Neither had head coaching experience and both did some really good things while at Kansas. Sometimes a guys comes out as the real deal when they shed the tag of coordinator and become Head Coach.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

This was something I was trying to convey to some other people when this search started. They don't have to have prior head coaching experience. The really good ones didn't. Snyder is a good example... there are tens more.

squawkhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Ron Prince wasn't a head coach either and we all know how that worked out at KSU.

trey 10 years, 10 months ago

If it's either of these guys... WHAT A DISASTER. Wow, this will cement the sentiment that Zenger is totally "small time".

Why haven't we already hired Fulmer?

And if he's a no-go, I'd MUCH rather have Doeren. At least there would be hope that he could be something special. Either of these two guys would be mediocre at best. Neither have a high ceiling. If it plays out like this...

VERY DISSAPPOINTING.

LSHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

+1 I like Doeren best, has the most upside but if not him than I would go with Fulmer. He's a PROVEN HC, and that is what KU needs.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

I don't agree that KU needs a "proven HC". In fact I think we need an AD who's capable of finding the right guy under every one else's noses even if he lacks -- as snyder did for example -- head coach experience. Think Roy Williams in b-ball.

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

At first I didn't want Doeren, but I've been slowly getting on board with him over the past several days. He or Fulmer would probably be my first choices right now. Definitely not Koetter or Christensen.

And yes I know Doeren lost to Gill, but it was a road game as well as a game they very easily could've/should've won. Also doing it a much lower tier university (it's not like he was coaching Texas at the time).

VaJay 10 years, 10 months ago

It's like Matt's our junkie, and we need a fix & he just gave us a little dose, but it's not good enough & we can't wait for the next one...

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

Wouldn't we be the junkies, and Matt our pusher?

Matt Tait 10 years, 10 months ago

That's probably what was meant, but after 10 days I kind of feel like a junkie so I'll say either option is correct!!!

VaJay 10 years, 10 months ago

Whoops. Yeah that's what I meant. Didn't have thinking cap on...

Kent Wells 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm going with pimp. Mostly because of the fantastic pleasures he's trying to sell us. Namely the Petersen article. That was the Heidi Fleiss. Of course, there was the discount model too, Divine Brown with that Barry Switzer bit!

My personal guess is that we end up with the person they found under Chris Farley in that Chicago hotel room.

Hummm, perhaps we should have stuck with drugs!

Coach-Matt Koelling 10 years, 10 months ago

I'd be thrilled if Malzahn is our guy. He may not have head coaching experience but he knows how to utilize players. At Arkansas he ran the Wildcat with McFadden and Jones, and at Auburn he had the formula for success with Cam Newton. Not to mention he's from Texas and has recruiting ties throughout the South.

We just need to get this over with so we can get things moving. I feel like the longer we don't have a coach, the worse our program looks.

bradh 10 years, 10 months ago

If Leavitt isn't in the mix because he has an NFL job and we don't want to wait for the NFL season to end, why would we be willing to wait until the end of the NFL season for Koetter? That doesn't sound reasonable to me and it would have to hurt our recruiting.

Kenny Terry 10 years, 10 months ago

I agree. If your going the Koetter route and have to wait any way I would rather try for Leavitt

mcrckchlk 10 years, 10 months ago

Fulmer Fulmer Fulmer Fulmer Fulmer Fulmer Fulmer Fulmer. I'll say it again: Fulmer.

What's the update on him?

(Fulmer)

1jhawk2 10 years, 10 months ago

Help me out, are you saying you want Fulmer?

amatxjayhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

I am grateful for three things. SZ is doing the search; he's keeping it quiet; none of you negative wannabes are involved; and that it is about over.

I also have a great hope. That when it is all over the naysayers will shut up and support the new coach and the team.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

Not gonna happen.

People will fuss and complain and nitpick about the new guy make up a screen name mocking him and then when he leaves on his own or pushed out they will post the ever so easily unoriginal, "I told you so!".

amatxjayhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Here. Here. That stuff is all right in the coffee shop with your friends, but here in this public forum it only damaging.

RNCJHAWK 10 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for all your hard work and information on this. Fedora is all over the TV here in NC. Just hope we get someone good

Kenny Terry 10 years, 10 months ago

This is starting to remind me of the movie Major League, when the guys are sitting in the diner looking at names. There only response was who the f are these guys

pepper_bar 10 years, 10 months ago

Bigger issue, Matt: do you agree with Tom and Jesse that Britney Spears in her prime looked like Pedro Martinez?

Matt Tait 10 years, 10 months ago

Haha! I don't see that one bit. And even if I did, I wouldn't allow myself to think it or admit it.

bjejayhawk69 10 years, 10 months ago

I agree. I would go with Fulmer or Doeren over these two. Then maybe Dykes.

Zenger still needs to gauge any interest from Chris Peterson at BSU - I know Boise is going to part of the Big East-West but he has to be getting tired of the BCS snubs and all the effort it is taking to get them into a BCS situation. Also see if Leavitt would work out. Koetter is still coaching in the NFL so it could work out with Leavitt. The big hang up is his "choking" incident at USF but like Mangino I am sure that was overblown.

AzNHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Saw pictures and video of Malzahn's wife. Either she has a sarcastic personality or is just a little odd. Attractive and cute, but maybe just a little odd. LOL!

KU_Alumn_2000 10 years, 10 months ago

This is not good. Hope neither of those rumors are true...otherwise we're looking at another Turner Gill situation with the program being set back another 5 years.

It really pisses me off that everything Mangino built here is gone.

Thanks Lew...you did this.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

On what grounds are you making this assumption. Neither of these guys have the red flags like Gill did. At least not Malzahn.

Ed Fox 10 years, 10 months ago

What was Mangino's record his last year? How long was the losing streak? Some might say that Gill got screwed by what Mangino built here as well. Look, he had the great year, but we have no idea if he could have sustained that success long term (especially since he didn't really for another coupl years). We'll never know, but it's time to move on.

phi4life940 10 years, 10 months ago

First it was - "Leach, Leach Leach!" - lost him to Washington State. Then it was - "Fedora, Fedora, Fedora!" - Lost him to North Carolina. Now who is it- "Malzahn or Koetter??????

I hope it's not Koetter...or should I say, Cutter-the-enthusiasm outta the room. I have some family in Phoenix and they hated the guy at ASU. If we hire him, count me out for attending any games. He'll get crushed in the Big 12.

At this point...I'm not sure what to think.

leawoodhawk33 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt, any idea if Fulmer is really in the mix or not?

KSAuburnFan 10 years, 10 months ago

As an Auburn fan and have watched every game that Coach Malzahn has coached on the Plains. Yes, Cam Newton was the difference between a great offense and a national title. His first year there, he had a re-tread qb named Chris Todd and still had an explosive offense, the guy can flat out coach offense. They are struggling this year, with a soph qb, soph rb, and only 1 senior on the offensive line (add to that the 8th toughest schedule in America), but they are still 7-5 and in a bowl game.

I sure don't want to lose Coach Malzahn from Auburn, but since he is probably bound to leave eventually for a head coaching job, KU would be my first choice. I know Dr. Zenger is wanting someone with Head coaching experience, but like has been said on here many times, assistants need a chance. Bill Snyder was an offensive coordinator before coming to KSU, Bob Stoops was an assistant before taking the OU job, Steve Sarkesian (sp) was an assistant before taking the Washington job, Gene Chizik was an assistant before taking the Iowa State and eventually Auburn job. Those are just a few assistants that made the jump from being and assistant to taking over and becoming successful at a BCS level job.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

It is amazing how candidates who were completely unacceptable a few days ago, now seem pretty good. I was not for hiring Fulmer yesterday, but compared to these two candidates, he looks pretty good. Alot of people were in the Leach camp and anti-Fedora now probably lament that he is going elsewhere.

Of the two names listed, I would prefer Malzhan.

Ervin O'Neal 10 years, 10 months ago

One of my oldest friends is a diehard Vols fan. For the past 40 years, like most SEC fans, he reads and listens to everything involving the Tenn football program from recruiting to coaching, etc. So knowing he is not shy about commenting on his one true passion, I asked if Fulmer would make a good coach at KU given our needs. I also told him how I thought Mizzou would be a Top 10 team in football most years, that is Top 10 in the SEC, not the nation. The paragraphs below are his take on Fulmer and Mizzou as well as an insight of how much the typical SEC fan can recall off the top of his head (not that different from KU bball fans). I agree with his take on Fulmer. Like he mentions below, I take caution in the fact that "nobody has offered him a job since he was let go by UT 3 years ago…. telling….."

"Who knows on Fulmer…? Do you get the 90s version….or the ’02 –’08 version? Recruited out of his mind in the 90s…but lost his edge there and left the Vols in a mess, talent-wise, that we’re still trying to dig out of…. Honest to goodness, his last two years…. he signed a bunch of guys who were of the CUSA ilk and swore to the end that he could turn the ship with them!! Time has shown that he was full of sh*t and was no longer even coming close on signing day. Great recruiter? he was at one time…. Great coach? I’d say, definitely not….ever. He always did very well when he had David Cutcliffe as OC. However, when Cut left for Ole Miss...we fell off…..then came back..and we did well again….then left for Duke and we tanked… Cut seemed to provide the focus, discipline & attention to detail that Phil could not. Fulmer was let go due a gradual slide that started in ’02…then he took a preseason Top 5 team to a 5-6 record in 2005 and another 5 win season in ’08 that included awful home losses (Wyoming, etc.). Another crazy thing I’ll never understand..Phil was an OL as a player at UT and OL coach for years..supposedly an OL guru…. and yet, the lack of OL talent and development, more than anything, was his undoing at UT…how ironic! How could that happen? Personally, I don’t think I’d gamble on him having some sort of rebirth. He’s too wealthy & comfortable already to be really hungry…and it’s interesting that nobody…nobody has offered him a job since he was let go by UT 3 years ago…. telling….. NCAA compliance is not a worry with him though, despite what Bama folks say, he follows the rules."

"As for Mizzou, if the SEC had to expand…which I wish they hadn’t…I’m glad Mizzou is in so I can see the Vols in Columbia and hear more SEC talk here in St. Louis. However, it’s hard to see it working out well for them from a competitive standpoint. They may do decently in basketball but are likely doomed to the bottom tier of the SEC East in football..right above KY & Vandy. Right now, they are not even in the same zip code as the traditional SEC power schools from a recruiting standpoint."

tahawk81 10 years, 10 months ago

Great post, I've been pretty high on Fulmer. But your friend brings up good counter points. I still think he would be better than the other canidates we are talking to. I guess the real question I have now after reading your post is could he go out and get a great OC and DC to help captain the ship.

flyingfinn 10 years, 10 months ago

What a disappointment with either of these two coaches, Jacksonville has stunk up the NFL in offense in recent memory and did any one watch Auburn without Cam this year, their offense was trerrible. I guess it is better than Christenson but not much and quit with the disclaimer it is getting old.

DrGraydog 10 years, 10 months ago

still hoping for Fulmer....would have thought if he really was near the top of the list we would have heard something by now though.....

KCatty 10 years, 10 months ago

While I appreciate that something is better than nothing when it comes to "talking" about our new coach. It sounds to me that Tait has no idea what is going on, has no sources worth citing and in all probability all his posts are just his opinion. Posting information from the "twitter world?" Really? Thats the best reporting we can get? I do enjoy how he's hedged his bets by continuously writting stuff like, "it could very well be someone who were not even talking about." The bottom line is while this page is a good break from work, its much to do about nothing. Tait has no leads and knows nothing more than the rest of us. So we should all calm down and stop freaking out about what he's saying, because he's made it very clear he has no idea whats going on.

LSHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Must be a K-State troll, leave us and never return

Matt Tait 10 years, 10 months ago

Check out the 10:21 a.m. Update.... I'm assuming that's more of what you're looking for.

This thing has been going on for 10 straight days and the blog's been running every one of those days from around 8 a.m. to around 10 p.m. It can't be hard facts and absolutions every single time.

We are getting close though and some of that 10:21 update should help clear things up...

Have a great day!

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 10 months ago

Doing a great job Matt! For the record, no other reporters are working this hard, they don't know anything either. The KUAD is pretty well sealed up and you aren't going to get any info from them. This is the first post I've seen from catty, and I'm guessing they haven't been following this saga as closely as the rest of us. Keep it coming Matt, I know you are doing your best and we appreciate it. Thanks for keeping us involved...

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

Not sure if anybody's posted this yet, but...

http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop

"North Carolina: Sources close to the program tell us that Larry Fedora has indeed accepted the offer. Expect the announcement tomorrow."

KCatty 10 years, 10 months ago

I have 3 degrees from KU, and frankly, all this chatter of nothing makes us all look like idiots. Good try, though.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

We are all just excited to see who the replacement will be. If there is an acceptable place to chatter, the kusports.com blog is it...

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm guessing you haven't noticed the lack of info coming from the KUAD. Matt is doing his best, if you don't like it go away...

Danny Hernandez 10 years, 10 months ago

What's interesting is that there have been no leaks from the KU athletic department on who they're interviewing, who's on first, etc., and yet there are rumors? please! NO one knows a damn thing..only speculation. BTW, I had never ever heard of this guy named Jim Tressel until he was named the head coach of OSU. And I wonder how good a coach he'd have been had he taken over a program like ISU, ASU or Kansas?

Some programs make a good coach a better coach and other programs make a good coach a bad coach. Still will come down to recruiting and finding those hidden gems of an athlete and developing them.

I like that it's been quiet with our Dr. Zenger not blabbing his mouth like othe AD's feel the need to do. As for Matt, I enjoy the speculation and wheel percentages but nothing concrete there buddy....just more of the poster gooby gob

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

"Some programs make a good coach a better coach and other programs make a good coach a bad coach."

Good point. See Gene Chizik and Turner Gill (maybe), among others I can't think of. I say Turner Gill because he was mediocre at Buffalo and horrible at KU. But all the other coaches around the country seem to think he's a great coach. Could just be sympathetic coach-speak, but maybe if he lands somewhere else, he might click there and be the next Tom Osborne (but I doubt it).

shelleysue 10 years, 10 months ago

I certainly hope Zenger isn't limiting himself by insisting on someone with HC experience. I would much rather have a talented OC or DC ready to make the move to HC than a half rate HC. An OC or DC that can bring some talent looking to build a great program with him. SPECIAL TEAMS and DEFENSE please. Good Lord. I'm starting to get worried.

jayhawkfan45 10 years, 10 months ago

I'd have to expect its going to malzahn, offensive guy in a defensive conference probably wants out. I am not sold on him, but he can probably bring in recruits hey look I just won a national championship come here and try to win one with me, etc.

Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Gus Malzahn!!! Never underestimate a head coach who has coached high school kids. The same kids he will be recruiting. National Championship experience doesn't hurt either. Ex coaches are ex coaches for a reason.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt thanks for the update on who is out for sure.

It's hard to get a good read on any of the options that have been thrown into the mix.

I was never on board with Leach, Sumlin, Jones, or Doeren. I do however like Fedora, also on the list of likes were Venables, Smart, Fulmer, and Malzahn (not in any order).

KU along with Zenger will find the right guy for this program, and the only guarantee is that not all the KU fans will be happy about it. There is no perfect hire, so we will have to ride the wave to the shore and see what it brings us next fall.

kwahyajjj 10 years, 10 months ago

"Been making some more calls trying to find out where we're at with this thing"

really?

Been making some more calls trying to find out where we are with this thing

railer20 10 years, 10 months ago

And the point of your post is that you learned copy and paste???

kwahyajjj 10 years, 10 months ago

No, I already know how to copy and paste. It just irks me when people say "Where we are at" Sounds like an uneducated boob. That is all.

AzNHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Fulmer's out. Bummer!! Since it looks like it may be between Malzahn and Koetter.

eenie meenie miney moe, catch a tiger on it's toe, if it hollers let it go, eenie meenie miney moe, Gus is it!

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

I like Dykes for the same reason I like Fedora. They have experienced success as a head coach (Fedora longer than Dykes) and they have a strong tie to Texas high schools (Dykes may win out over Fedora in that area). Dykes father was a great coach at Texas Tech. He retired and preceded Leach. Tech was good before Leach took over. I believe this year snapped a 19 year streak where Tech did not have a losing record.

5to6 10 years, 10 months ago

Or it could be someone completely out of left field. Z has done a surprisingly good job of being discreet, so it's possible that "Unnamed Coach" is still very much in the running.

gripp42 10 years, 10 months ago

Please not Koetter! This would be a dissappointment.

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm not being sarcastic at all when I say why would you be disappointed by Kotter? I don't know much at all about the guy.

gripp42 10 years, 10 months ago

His history at ASU, unless I am mistaken for the wrong guy.

actorman 10 years, 10 months ago

If you are "mistaken for the wrong guy," does that mean that we would think someone else is posting? And even if that's the case, what does that have to do with Gus Malzahn? Just wondering ...

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Talked to a former athletic department staffer from Boise who knows him well and he said "not in a million years."

This guy sounds like a smug, condescending a-hole.

FreddyinLA 10 years, 10 months ago

Calhoun was my top choice from Matt’s original list. Why?
First, he would bring the discipline of the military to KU football.
Secondly, his offense is very hard to prepare for in one weeks time.
Finally, combining military discipline with a unique offensive scheme equates to winning with the quality of players who usually come to KU.

NWKhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt - You have another "in" with Jacksonville. KU alum Cole Pepper is the local color/media guy for the Jags. Great guy that you should get in touch with.

frank mcguinness 10 years, 10 months ago

SZ needs to pull a big winner or lose his job.

railer20 10 years, 10 months ago

Yea because if he isn't a big winner then he is sure to fail...

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

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Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

Why should he be? As far as I know, he's never shown interest in being a head coach anywhere.

FreddyinLA 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt, ask Cromwell if he is interested. The list is getting pertty thin.

NWKhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Joe Schad tweeting that Fedora has accepted UNC job

Kenny Terry 10 years, 10 months ago

If its between Malzahn and Koetter I would rather have Malzahn.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt, could any of the Texas and Mack Brown separation rumors (I know Dodds has denied these, but smoke+fire) have anything to do with the delay? Not just for Kansas but for a lot of other schools?

i.e. Alabama, if Brown would leave Texas, might Saban take that job and then that opens 'Bama and who gets that?

ydoow53 10 years, 10 months ago

Looks like we are headed for a Turner Gill repeat

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Malzahn might be okay but his wife is apparently crackers. There is a synopsis of a video of an interview with her previously in this thread posted by sevenyearhawk. The video is no longer available online anywhere that I can find. He could be a great coach for us and his wife could be a source of continual embarrassment.

kureignman 10 years, 10 months ago

I have a feeling it's Koetter. Didn't Malzahn turn down $3 mil from Vandy last year. And Calhoun graduated from Air Force and took himself out of the Broncos and CU job last year. Koetter is the only one on that list who's got head coach at bcs school on his resume.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

Koetter's background of letting his stars run rampant should rule him out.

JayhawkGrad05 10 years, 10 months ago

Of course this would mean that he was able to recruit "stars" to KU.... Sounds like an argument FOR Koetter.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 10 months ago

Why doesn't Zenger just switch places with Gill. He can coach football and Gill can be the AD. We can save money and Zenger will get really close to the football program. Who knows, he might be good at that. I know, I know...too late for that.

I am starting to get cynical. Darn newspaper. If Calhoun comes, I hope this does not mean that our DC stays. Yech.

Danny Hernandez 10 years, 10 months ago

I may be in the minority but I wasn't excited about Fedora and glad he's going elsewhere. He'd have been fired after 3 years due to lack of progress and finishing the year without a bowl game under his belt.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

Our next coach is REALLY going to have to stink (cf. Gill) to get himself fired after only 3 years here. Not just losses (those are a given), but unprepared, unconditioned teams suffering crazy blowouts and self-implosions. None of that would've happened under Fedora.

I think KU fans just want to see progress, not necessarily bowl games right away. We know it's going to take time especially after the Gill period.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

I think I have Zenger's strategy figured out now.

He isn't going to hire a guy while everyone else is, being KU it wouldn't even make the bottom line on ESPN with all the other coaching moves.

So you wait till everyone has their man and then you have a big old presser and everyone shows up, you make headlines and get a little free publicity with it.

Or not????

5to6 10 years, 10 months ago

I think we may find the guy we end up with hasn't been mentioned yet.

viewaskew 10 years, 10 months ago

Hell no, Koetter is NOT a good option:

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2006-05-04/news/fire-him/

During that period, 21-year-old running back Loren Wade exhibited increasingly erratic and threatening behavior toward female athletes, including his girlfriend. When faced with the option of reporting Wade's serious misconduct to ASU campus police and to student affairs officials, Koetter did neither.

Had he reported the behavior, his star player surely would have been kicked out of school.

Koetter played it safe -- for his football team and for his career. The coach reinstated Wade, who was already in trouble for a different problem, to the team for spring 2005 practices. The earlier trouble involved Wade accepting cash payments from an ASU employee, which had gotten him suspended.

Incredibly, Koetter reinstated Wade after learning that he had threatened to kill a female gymnast, after receiving a report from the women's soccer coach that players were terrified because Wade had a gun, and after knowing Wade's girlfriend had called police fearing Wade was going to destroy her apartment after he had threatened her life.

Matt,

Please tell me Zenger has a clue.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure Zenger has a clue. Not sure Mr. Tait does....

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

Out of curiosity, what has Zenger done to give you so much confidence. I don't think we have alot to go by an perhaps he has been dealt a bad hand. He may be finding that out as he tries to hire a football coach.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

It's too early to say. But I bet Zenger is smart enough to avoid hiring a guy with Koetter's baggage especially in this day an age. Zenger is our first football-friendly AD, and I expect a good hire regardless of how non-famous it is.

TKHAWK 10 years, 10 months ago

Koetter is also the only one on the list that may not have a job next year in his current spot. That's not a knock on him, that's just the reality of the Jags organization.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm depressed. Fulmer out? Are you kidding me? No Switzer? No Jimmy Johnson? And apparently no Petersen. And I am caring less by the minute about Fedora. If this hire is a bust, it is official. K-State owns KU. Ten years from now we will be talking about dissolving the football program. Are we pulling an Ole Miss here?

actorman 10 years, 10 months ago

Wow, can you say "overreaction?!?!?"

A novel concept here: Let's see who SZ actually HIRES in 2011 before panicking about KU possibly dropping football in 10 years.

Perhaps an upping of your medication is in order.

Pbbut 10 years, 10 months ago

If he hasn't, Zenger still needs to take a shot at Petersen, this might be the millionth year...

Ron Prichard 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt,

Admit it, you just put the June Jones link on her because you like the user avatar for @ponyinNC.

Robert Howard 10 years, 10 months ago

As a small diversion from this current coaching search, I started to reflect on the 2009 search. As you recall, Randy Edsall (UConn) was at the top of everyone's list and the hot pick for the KU job.

Although he stayed at UConn in 2009 and 2010 (8-5 each year), he jumped to Maryland where he took the Terrapins to a 2-10 record and already has people calling for his head in this recent article in the Washington Post:

http://tinyurl.com/7zdqwfy

In retrospect, would Edsall have fared any better at KU?

Ashwin Rao 10 years, 10 months ago

"Fedora's deal is subject to approval by North Carolina chancellor Holden Thorp, as well as the university's board of trustees." Let us hang on to the thread for a little while more... then let us hang on in case he may decide to not show up to sign the dotted line! (Can we have someone follow his car form his home to the signing place?)

This is getting really funny! Sorry, Matt, not making fun of you... it is just that the wait for a right decision is making everyone so anxious, and people are resorting to all kinds of things (as can be see on the #kufball tag of Twitter!) like tracking planes, trains, cars, calling people who know people who have seen people etc.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt- Why is Sonny Dykes no longer on your list?

Cora Smith 10 years, 10 months ago

As the good coaches choose, we are not getting closer, we are getting farther. I bet that our coach has all the name recognition of Turner Gill. Maybe less. This has turned into a disaster and may eventually cost Zenger his job.

bradh 10 years, 10 months ago

Wow, we have no idea what steps Zenger has taken, what coach he will bring in, or how that coach will do and you already have Zenger losing his job? Why don't we just take a deep breath, see who he brings in, get behind whoever it is and in 3 years we can gripe if things aren't looking up.

It seems like there are an awful lot of people just ready to be disappointed.

actorman 10 years, 10 months ago

Bradh, you're injecting dangerous logic into the conversation. Isn't it in the bill of rights that people can panic with no factual basis whatsoever?

sevenyearhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Who cares about Zenger's job ... this might eventually cost Kansas a place in a BCS conference!

ugh.

tecuani 10 years, 10 months ago

I am curious as to why Nutt was never considered? Is it because of two bad years at Ole Miss? Is it something else?

If the guy is out of a job and is interested, and has a winning record in the toughest conference in football, why wouldn't you at least consider him?

We could do a lot worse than Nutt.

That said, I like Malzahn. His Springdale HS connections could be valuable, and coming from a school that demands production on the field will benefit him at KU.

tylerste 10 years, 10 months ago

Unfortunately KU was one of if not the worst BCS coaching job availible (not my opinion, but that is the nation perspective), and because of that we are going to have to take a chance on somebody that might not be really high on a lot of lists. I think for KU, Malzauhn might be that guy, though I would like to know why KU couldn't work things out with an interested Fullmer. Fullmer was by far the best candidate availible, and his reputation alone would have brought instant credibility to the program.

tylerste 10 years, 10 months ago

Unfortunately KU was one of if not the worst BCS coaching jobs availible (not my opinion, but that is the nation perspective), and because of that we are going to have to take a chance on somebody that might not be really high on a lot of lists. I think for KU, Malzauhn might be that guy, though I would like to know why KU couldn't work things out with an interested Fullmer. Fullmer was by far the best candidate availible, and his reputation alone would have brought instant credibility to the program.

Dyrk Dugan 10 years, 10 months ago

so it's come down to this: an offensive coordinator from a BCS school who i had never heard of.....an NFL coordinator who's been out of the college game for several years...and one of the military academy's head coaches. that's our choice, per the LJW.

i must say, i'm not all that enthused. Koetter has been a somewhat successful college head coach and coordinator...but who would be on his staff? he's never coached in the midwest....he's been at Boise, head coached at Arizona St. the good thing about him....i would think....he would have to keep some of the current assts. on staff. (Mitchell, Beaty, etc)...otherwise, he'd lose all the recruits and have to start completely over.

the bad news? he'd have to stay with the Jags until January....i mean they just Del Rio...they need some stability to get through the end of the year. So he wouldn't get started right away.

Malzahn seems to be the best guy. he's coached at Tulsa and Arkansas....and now at Auburn, ...plus he was a HS coach for several years, so he's got some recruiting ties. Auburn is rebuilding back the program after the Cam Newton sensation so it's a good time to jump to another level...and his daughters are nearly both grown, so his family situation is stable.

i'd say SZ, go after Mr. Malzah full force....get him in signed, sealed and delivered.....and then in here to address the crowd for the Ohio St game....talk about whipping KSU next year and all of that...get the crowd going. Go Jayhawks!

Ken Miller 10 years, 10 months ago

Hey Matt:

What about Pat Hill, just recently canned by Fresno State? With KU's pool of candidates dwindling, what about the mustachioed one?

Haiku_Cuckoo 10 years, 10 months ago

Not looking good. At this rate, the only candidate left might be Jerry Sandusky.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 10 months ago

620am in phx is reporting jones to asu is a done deal

Kevin Randell 10 years, 10 months ago

The reality is guys...many on here are right. We where one of the worse football teams in the nation this year. We do have talent, but because of crappy coaching we give the impression to the rest of the nation that we stink. What we can hope for is that one of these guys will be a much better improvement than Gill was as a coach. Heck, if this guy spits out a 6-6 or 7-5 record next year he will be a coach of the year candidate. Am I disappointed?....yes. I was hoping for a guy who would be here long term and take the program in a new direction. But what we have to settle for now is a guy who we can HOPE will get us to a bowl game or two before he darts to his next job. Bottom line, is we and I me WE need to rally and support this coach and staff no matter who it is.

So....I will buy my season tickets, I will make sure my butt is in the seats for every game, and I will support my Jayhawks.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 10 months ago

That has got to be about the weakest reason in the World. Look at Leach. Why would he go to Wazzu? Terrible history, they have been just as bad as of late, end of the earth, yada yada. They got Leach because the minute they found out he was interested in them, they pulled the trigger. They could afford to. I am beginning to think the problem is that we cannot. It is the contract details (because of 2 consecutive buy-outs) that is killing us. The top guys are holding us hostage to that.

Kevin Randell 10 years, 10 months ago

May be so, but you and I are sitting here not know what the higher ups are doing. So all we have to go with is speculation. Unless SZ pulls out a rabbit out of his hat, I think he is going to get the best guy out there who "wants" the job. We have to understand and look at KU through the eyes of those outside of the Jayhawk Nation. In their mind, we are an institution who fired a coach because he was abusive to players, we have a black eye because of a corrupt ticket scandal, and we just fired a coach because he couldn't win. I can understand why people would be cautious in coming here. It's a 50/50 situation. We will either find a guy who will stay with the program and build it up, or we will find a guy who will build it up quickly, then dart for the next big name program. You can say what you want about my opinion, but if we were are great as we think we are then we would already have a coach. WSU got theirs within 48 hours...we are going on two weeks.

johnnyhrdwd 10 years, 10 months ago

Leach has baggage, wsu is in the pac and the pac is not going to fold.

manginodrh00lz 10 years, 10 months ago

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy little buddy. Turn off the engineer side of the brain. Just because you don't have control of the situation is no reason to go crazy. It'll work out. Use that brain to think analytically - would a coach with NFL experience work well for KU? Think it through...and get back to us.

Micah Mandy Haase 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt,

Have you thought about opening a feed like Newell does for the games for this Coaching search??? That way we can just comment and we dont have to scroll down 400 miles to reach the last post? Just a thought! Keep up the good work!

KGphoto 10 years, 10 months ago

I admit I knew next to nothing about Gus before today, but a quick search ended that. The guy sets records wherever he goes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn start at "Coaching career" Pretty amazing stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHXaeE9IyYQ

I'm in. Let's get Gus.

AzNHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm in!!!!

I've followed his offenses as well. Get Gus!!

trey 10 years, 10 months ago

If we hire Koetter, then the clock is ticking on Zenger. What a huge dissappointment. Talk about picking from the bottom of the barrell. The perception of KU football will sink even lower than it already is (i know that sounds impossible). But this would be a joke.

It cracks me up how so many people talk glowingly about Zenger. What has he done, other than give rah-rah speeches? Ironic that our #1 AD Target, Buzz, hires Fedora out from under us. Maybe Zenger will turn out to be great, but if he hires Koetter that's an awful sign.

Note... just because KU leaders (Zenger and BGL) are quiet on things like realignment and coaching hires... doesn't mean that they're doing a good job. May also mean that they have no idea what they are doing. Just sayin.

lv_jhwk 10 years, 10 months ago

Just how did Buzz "hire Fedora out from under us"? Is this just like how Wazzu snatched Leach from our grasp? Do you know something no one else seems to, that either of these guys was all but set to choose our vacancy?

If you can't give definitive proof for any of the above, your take is no better than anyone else's.

Ervin O'Neal 10 years, 10 months ago

Don't forget that Ohio State stole Urban Meyer from us.... Just sayin.

bradh 10 years, 10 months ago

Sounds like you're ready to fire the guy based on no facts at all. I've never met the guy, but I'm willing to give him a shot. If his decisions stink in 5 years I'll be more inclined to gripe. However, to be ready to fire the guy over rumors seems a little quick. Just sayin.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 10 months ago

I have a feeling Koetter or his agent is playing Tait like a fiddle. The dude knows he isn't going to have a job next year so he is trying to get his name out in anyway possible.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

There's no reason to think Zenger isn't doing a great job finding a new coach. Certainly it's a tougher sell than many of the open jobs out there including ASU, UNC, A&M, and even WSU where success will come much more easily.

KU's most realistic strategy may be finding the diamond in the rough, or the overlooked assistant with a great pedigree (cf. Roy Williams in b-ball.)

It's more difficult to recruit here thanks to a small population base with lots of big programs gunning for the same kids; the competition is tougher; and yes we have a history of paying a lot more attention to basketball.

Ben Kliewer 10 years, 10 months ago

Fedora to UNC and Jones to ASU are both a lock.

JayHawkFanToo 10 years, 10 months ago

Fulmer, Petersen, Calhoun. Any of there three would be a decent hire...anyone else would be either a compromise, question mark or a big let down for the fans. Malzahn's wife is nuts and outspoken...not a good combination and definitely not the image KU needs. I am still hoping that Zenger can pull a rabbit out of a hat and surprise us all.

Mangino_Maniac 10 years, 10 months ago

Paul Chryst!!! If he comes to Lawrence it would be a fantastic hire.

hawkfan30 10 years, 10 months ago

Just a question would you be excited about this hire if this was the resume you were looking at?

First collegiate coaching experience serving as a graduate assistant coach at BCS school. He next worked as a head coach for several years in the high school ranks. Spent two years as an assistant coach at non BCS school. Moved with a same non BCS coach, and future Hall of Fame coach, to a BCS university where he has been the OC for ten years.

5to6 10 years, 10 months ago

Good point. I'm sure our rivals have been more than happy with this one. While miracles like this don't happen often, it does go to show that it's not about winning the press conference, it's about building a program and winning on the field.

5to6 10 years, 10 months ago

Good point. I'm sure our rivals have been more than happy with this one. While miracles like this don't happen often, it does go to show that it's not about winning the press conference, it's about building a program and winning on the field.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

I wold be very happy to see Chryst get the job... hmm

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 10 months ago

Noooo I said Christ is the only one that could win at KU...Not Chryst!

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

I brought up Paul Chryst for this job before Gill got the boot, a lot didn't even know who he was and the others said he was a product of Wisconsin.

I had forgotten about him, cause he hadn't been on the radar but as a long shot.

He would fit in with the talent at KU, look at our running backs and what he has done with the ones up there. Plus he can build an O-line.

And the best part is when you runs a fake punt and it fails the crowd can yell, "Oh for Chryst sakes!!!"

blindrabbit 10 years, 10 months ago

I hope someone writes a book about the foilbles of the KU Athletic Department in it's search for a new football coach. I've seen at leat 50 names mentioned for the position, some come, most go, but still no results. The travel search budget must have taken a hit on this. The book could serve as a primer for other schools as a means of avoiding the pitfalls KU has had. Rock Chalk

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

On the good side a wealthy booster is paying for Zenger's travel on his private plane.

So that helps with those cost.

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 10 months ago

Of course, those "50 names" were all speculation. No one knows who is/was on Zenger's list. We don't know we were passed over because we don't know if any offers were made. Maybe you'd better hold up on any recommendations to write a book on this subject until someone knows something definitive.

FLJHK 10 years, 10 months ago

You've long advocated the PAC as the most progressive, forward-thinking conference in the nation. I think you're right and I would love to see KU end up there. Still, I'd prefer the Big 10. However, I don't see either happening for a good long while.

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Where can I buy some of what Brock Huard has been smoking? (the writer of the article linked above)

lv_jhwk 10 years, 10 months ago

Too bad for Brock that the computers already stated that the Big 12 was better overall than the SEC. And that's saying something with this KU season.

blindrabbit 10 years, 10 months ago

mangino: Hope the drift of the PAC story is true; have admit I'm a little tired of all of the Good Olde Boy crap that comes out of Old Dixie and the SEC. Hopefully, KU will eventually find a place out there, once the Big12 (whatever) implodes.

TKHAWK 10 years, 10 months ago

Interesting thing about the Chryst story is that it does tell us SZ has names on the list that many of us aren't talking about.

Brandon Snook 10 years, 10 months ago

The mere fact that Paul Chryst met with KU makes me think it's better than a long shot. How many other candidates from your short list, if any, have actually met with KU? As far as assistants are concerned, I'd say this guy is frist-rate.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

I really don't see much of a difference between Chyst and Malzhan. A coworker of mine- who played at Auburn during the Bo Jackson days and is still close to the program- told me as soon as Gill was fired that we should hire Malzhan. At the time I figured that Zenger already knew who he was going to hire so I dismissed the suggestion and pointed out that he should be happy the Auburn did not hire Turner Gill!! Given our options, Malzhan doesn't sound that bad.

John Thomas 10 years, 10 months ago

I really like the idea of Paul Chryst. Two years running as the top assistant nationwide. Could do a lot worse. What are our chances?

Rae Bricil 10 years, 10 months ago

the issues that appear most worrisome is that if our AD has been targeting a few of these coaches and they chose other places. Remember reading Van Pelt say that KU was the worst of all the current BCS openings. Is this true? I thought the KU job would be better than UNC and WSU but i guess not...if this is the case we need a drastic change, but what can really be done so that we are not such a joke. Not looking to be in the hunt for NC's but possibly a 2nd tier bowl on a regular basis. Is that possible?

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

If you asked me which was the worst BCS opening, I would have said Washington State. I thought KU and Mississippi were next worst. But after seeing what has happened, I think KU is clearly the least attractive for several reasons: - No proven track record of winning- Mangino got us to minor bowl status which now seems like a great accomplishment. -Tremendously competitive conference- -Unstable conference- it is better to be in the Big 10, SEC or Pac-12 than the Big 12 -Apathetic and unrealistic fan base. In reality, KU has had one great year during the entire time of the Big 12. To read this site, you would have though we were perenially Top 10. Mangino, the best coach in KU history, had only ONE winning conference season in his eight years.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

If you asked me which was the worst BCS opening, I would have said Washington State. I thought KU and Mississippi were next worst. But after seeing what has happened, I think KU is clearly the least attractive for several reasons: - No proven track record of winning- Mangino got us to minor bowl status which now seems like a great accomplishment. -Tremendously competitive conference- -Unstable conference- it is better to be in the Big 10, SEC or Pac-12 than the Big 12 -Apathetic and unrealistic fan base. In reality, KU has had one great year during the entire time of the Big 12. To read this site, you would have though we were perenially Top 10. Mangino, the best coach in KU history, had only ONE winning conference season in his eight years.

Cora Smith 10 years, 10 months ago

If Paul Chryst get the job, he'd better not be just a badger. He will need to be a honey badger since he has no ties to Texas for recruiting.

eddiesuttonschoolofdriving 10 years, 10 months ago

Chryst is a great OC with a lengthy history of success - hasn't had a bad year as an OC. His offenses the last two years were unbelievably productive with a lot of 3 star recruits and he will appeal to a lot of recruits because he has put a lot of his offensive players into the NFL the last few years at multiple positions. Projections this year show at least 4 of the 5 offensive lineman eventually ending up in the NFL, the RB, QB and TE will end up there too, and at least one, maybe both, wide receivers.

He doesn't have head coaching experience and doesn't have Texas connections, but recruited Montee Ball from Missouri and the Badgers have recruited Florida well.

I'm guessing Illinois beats out KU if both want him, which is too bad. He is REALLY solid.

5to6 10 years, 10 months ago

I think that we're going to end up with a solid off-the-radar coach with experience heading a program and getting good but not spectacular results. He may not win the press conference and his hiring may not win fans on message boards, but he may be just the guy to get us back on solid ground after the debacle of the last couple of years.

gorilla10 10 years, 10 months ago

What was wrong with Fulmer??? I really liked the idea of him coming to Kansas......

manginodrh00lz 10 years, 10 months ago

Try to keep up man! We can't hold your hand through this process.

nwhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Yes, we know. We say your earlier attempt at humor.

nwhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Yes, we know. We saw your earlier attempt at humor.

FLJHK 10 years, 10 months ago

Given that the "splash" candidates have gone elsewhere, when the new coach is named who will be the first to post, "Fire__." Will it be Ahperse or will someone else step up to the plate?

TKHAWK 10 years, 10 months ago

Point of interest on Koetter, his contract with Jax is up this year. Chances are good, given their poor performance this year (although not Koetter's fault), they are not likely to resign him next year. Means he's a man who might need a job, and it means he does't come with a buy out which makes him attractive to a team like KU who is still buying out two coaches. He's a great coach, and comes at the right price. This might be a great find for SZ.

TKHAWK 10 years, 10 months ago

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2011/12/3/2607468/dirk-koetters-future-with-the-jaguars-could-be-coming-to-a-close

The fact this article only mentions Kansas, to me says a lot without saying anything. If you know what I mean.

JayHawkFanToo 10 years, 10 months ago

The problem with candidates that do not have HC experience is that you do not know if the Peter Principle applies. You are hiring them based on what they have done at level below that of a Head Coach, and you do not know if they will have the same competence at the HC level, ergo the Peter Principle. In other words, candidates without HC experience are a question mark, regardless of how good they were at the lower level. I am also curious on what were the issues with Fulmer; he was obviously interested in KU and had the HC experience and record to be a very viable candidate.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 10 months ago

I agree. If Zenger really is having problems, and he may or may not be having issues with candidates, I hope he takes a hard look at Mason again. But, he needs to stick with his guns on the contract, must be based on performance.

Someone will take his contract who will be an improvement over where we were and hopefully better. Perhaps it is too much to expect a flashy name. SZ is staking his future on this hire and may be playing too tight. Time will tell.

Kirk 10 years, 10 months ago

Keegan said the search is now focused on guys in the Canadian Football League, along with some soccer guys in Europe who've had some involvement with American style football in the past.

The search is feeling really, really Kansas-like at this point. And not in a basketball way.

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

Zenger needs to be replaced.

He's had just under two weeks to secure a decent coach after having more than a month to prepare for this search and still...nothing.

That leaves two options:

  • He approached several 'big name' candidates (Leach, Fedora, June Jone, etc) then stood ideally by while they decided on different schools...forming no backup plan.

  • He never truly went after those coaches, but instead focused on decidedly third tier coaches like coordinators or the head coach of Wyoming...and STILL hasn't made a decision, again with a month and a half all together.

I don't know which option is more embarrassing, but the man is inept. We should fire him before he locks us into a contract with a coordinator for a division III school.

nwhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Can you please provide me with your home address? I have a few things to say to you, but I'd prefer to do it in person.

John Myers 10 years, 10 months ago

+1 Every post by this guy is ridiculous..

milehighhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

I've seen a lot of dumb things on this board, but congrats! This takes the cake. Get a clue, kid.

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 10 months ago

I think you need to be replaced. Your misuse of 'ideally' and overuse of run on sentences are an embarrassment...

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 10 months ago

I heard it was the All-Austrailian-style football, 55 and older division, women.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 10 months ago

So far TK's "sources" are a crop insurance salesman, some dude that washes carts at Lawrence county club, and Sully. Kind of makes it hard to believe anything he writes.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 10 months ago

Not sure how productive this reporting is either. Now, if we could lay money down, it would make some sense.

lama 10 years, 10 months ago

At least he nailed the KU-to-Big-East story.

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

Tait is actually doing an amazing job considering what he has to work with...and inept KUAD.

mcrckchlk 10 years, 10 months ago

Just got a voicemail from someone with the last name starting with "Z" I believe asking if I'd be interested in an interview for the HC job. He said that because i am a former yell-leader and know people who have been physical therapists for the team, I'm one of his most qualified candidates at the present moment. I also played football freshman year of high school. I deleted the message.

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

"With reports surfacing that Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst has interviewed with Kansas University officials..."

--Ohhh, he might be good.

"...rumored to have had discussions with Illinois about its vacancy"

--Neverming, he's not coming here if another school is interested.

irvan moore 10 years, 10 months ago

i still like mason and fulner the best, fair to middling splash with the hire and experienced coaches

irvan moore 10 years, 10 months ago

i still like mason and fulmer the best, fair to middling splashwith the hire and experienced

5to6 10 years, 10 months ago

There's a point where several of the streams Tait's paddled down come together.

TKHAWK 10 years, 10 months ago

You can't trust the schools b/c they'll say 'no one is hired' until SZ is ready to take the podium. But if the drums are starting to beat, there are a lot of people out there that know a lot more people than I know, and those people know people and they might, MIGHT, know something.

Hang in there fans! We r getting close!

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

Cannonballs at the pool around all the girls get you noticed. They don't like it, so there for they don't like you.

KU doesn't need a "big splash" hire. They need the right hire to turn the football program around, someone that can take it from 5 wins in two years and get them competitive and win 5 games in year one.

If it was Leach you wanted, then the ripple affect that was caused by his hire at WSU is hardly around any more. That's not what KU wants.

If you wanted Fedora or Sumlin, (yes I liked Fedora) for the big splash they weren't a big splash, they were small pebbles in a big pond.

Hiring a new coach that can turn your program in the right direction and take it to new levels consistently for a long term, is like calling a guy as a junior in HS, a 4 time All-Big12 first teamer.

You really won't know until he is a senior.

Then you do your cannon ball into the pool and let everyone notice, and even the girls will giggle and blush.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 10 months ago

If we hired this dude seconds after TK writes an article about interviewing NFL coaches...

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, Keegan's articles have become the kiss of death for any potential KU happening.

Big East, Leach, Fedora...

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Not really ringing endorsement statements by Thorsen regarding Chryst.

rockemchalkemrobots 10 years, 10 months ago

I've heard that Ashwin Rao is interested and could be announced as soon as this afternoon. He seems to be highly motivated, efficient, results oriented, with excellent leadership skills.

rkatzfey 10 years, 10 months ago

Gus is not coming to KU! He has bigger aspirations!

Tony Bushard 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt, when you state "they're reaching" do you mean they (KU) are reaching an agreement with Malzahn or they (various message boards) are reaching (or over-reaching I guess) for a story when they say Malzahn has been hired? Thanks!

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 10 months ago

I interpreted it as message boards reaching for a story.

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

I live in Auburn and most local stations down hear actually think Malzahn will never leave to that basketball school. The read on him is that he is obsessed with the game and is always in the film room. Tiger fans are freaking out because they just lost their defensive coordinator Ted Ruth to coach defense at Central Florida. If Malzahn leaves Chizik will have to hire an new OC and DC. Either Malzahn or Chryst would be great hires. I just wish Zenger would just make a decision and move on so we could keep up with recruiting. We are falling behind and need to recruit defense NOW!!!

Ashwin Rao 10 years, 10 months ago

Hey, Zenger promised not to come back before the hire... luckily Christmas is around 2 wks away, so if he wants to spend it with his family, he has until then to find one! :)

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm sure the generous donors would pay for his family to join him at whatever resort he's enjoying instead of finding us a decent coach.

No way anyone whose actually been doing their job the last 6 weeks doesn't have someone lined up yet.

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

How many executives have you hired in your life? Yeah, I thought so...

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm 99 percent sure you haven't hired one either, so what's your point?

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

8-10 in a 34 year career running a small business. Each hire is incredibly time consuming and stressful. You second guess yourself a lot. The serious prospect has to be thoroughly vetted. It's not like hiring a kid to mow your lawn or shovel your walk.

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

Just how many weeks did you spend on each hire? What kind of business do you run that could support a vacancy weeks at a time?

Zenger has at least a month to prep plus two weeks of an official search.

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Why don't you change your user name to "clueless_dannylandulf" to more accurately describe yourself?

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

Such a well reasoned and pertinent response. I'm convinced.

d_prowess 10 years, 10 months ago

Of course! dannylandulf is right! SZ decided to fire Gill on a whim and has been casually searching for new head coach over the past 9 day. I forgot that SZ is not a professional and doesn't take his job very seriously.
Or, and this may sound crazy... he did have a list put together and even already has some feelers out there. However then 6 or 7 other jobs that were better or equal to the KU job opened up and changed the entire scope and timeline of the search. No, that sounds crazy doesn't it...

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

However then 6 or 7 other jobs that were better or equal to the KU job opened up

So it takes him a FULL DAY to consider, interview and decide on each candidate? Even if he had a list of 7 and each of them decided on different schools...what exactly has he been doing the last two weeks? How does this support the position he isn't bumbling?

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

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d_prowess 10 years, 10 months ago

Or each candidate had a lot of things going on (some actually still coaching teams) and it is not as easy as you think it must be to schedule a time to meet with 8-10 coaching candidates.
Plus, are you saying that all the other ADs out there are bumbling too since schools like Illinois, UCLA, UNC, and ASU also have not hired a coach yet? I think the fact that those searches are still going on are proof of how this stuff takes time. And that places like WSU getting a coach so fast is actually the exception to the rule.

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

ASU fired Erickson on Nov. 28 after a 6-6 season. Entering November they were 6-2, so there is no way the decision to fire him came down before the last couple weeks of the season. And yet, they have identified and are working out the details on a June Jones contract. Search time: 9 days.

UNC said they would not replace their head coach until after the season. Their last game was on the 26th (same as KU)'s and the responded by locking up the hottest name in the college football coaching search in Fedora yesterday. Search time: 11 days

So no, they're ADs are not bumbling and quite obviously took on the very important task in a serious and decisive manner.

Zenger, on the other hand, with about as much time as UNC to prep for his search, had landed nobody and the only names still connected are decidedly third tier. Search time: 12 days and counting.

d_prowess 10 years, 10 months ago

Check out your ASU information again... that process is not a done deal yet and may not be. Fedora to UNC was reported with some certainty only today.
I will agree with you about SZ if we don't have a coach by early next week. But if we have a coach by Friday, I think we did just as much as other schools and the time frame was in line with what it typically takes. So I guess we will see...

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

Interesting that the deal seems to have fallen through, but there is a word of caution from the story that lines up with my criticism; dragging your feet endlessly causes you to miss out:

"The source said Arizona State's explanation was that "it took too long" and the school president was moving on."

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7327205/arizona-state-sun-devils-pull-coaching-offer-smu-mustangs-june-jones-sources-say

poet008 10 years, 10 months ago

Bill Cowher!!!

He has midwest ties (former coach of Kansas City Chiefs) and I hear from the janitor at Allen Fieldhouse that he "might" have "some interest" in coaching college.

That's how all these "inside sources" sound.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy, who knows another guy that knows me.

bad_dog 10 years, 10 months ago

I met that guy one time over at a friend's house!

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

We need to let the process work and I think it is. My expectations get lower each day. When I thought we would get Leach, none of the other candidates looked very good. With Leach gone, Fedora looked good and no way was I interested in a retread coach or a coordinator. With Fedora gone, Fulmer now seemed intriguing (until I read some postings today). Now I'm buying into Malzhan or Chryst. I am sure that by the time KU annouces Doeren as the head coach, I will be excited and feel fortunate that KU was able to land him.

Even if we do not get a sexy name, we need the right guy and we won't know if we have the right guy for at least two years.

Ashwin Rao 10 years, 10 months ago

I feel a tone of resignation here... cheer up!

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

Most of my comments were tongue in cheek. My last sentence describes what I really believe. A person we never heard of could do just fine. I hadn't heard of Mangino when he was hired, and though there is a lot of revisionist history about his accomplishments, he is the most successful coach in KU history.

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 10 months ago

Sorry. According to Matt's latest update, Doeren is no longer being considered. Don't know how he knows that, except I think he gets "off the record" information he can't pass along.

Hank Cross 10 years, 10 months ago

The Gauchos are going to kick some Azzztec in BB.

jayhawkiniowa 10 years, 10 months ago

Can't believe anything you read anyway. Yesterday they said June Jones was out of contention for ASU, and look where he is today. Patience is all we can rely on. It will all be over one of these days, and then we can complain about that.

UKSHL 10 years, 10 months ago

June Jones is back in the hunt. ASU and June Jones hit a snag in contract. he would be a good fit for the Hawks. Both College and NFL experience.

Darin Bradley 10 years, 10 months ago

Tic Toc Dr. Zenger. All eyes on you. Remember... BCS quality coach is the goal. Like it or not KU nation, SZ is getting the rep as someone slow to pull the trigger. And don't give me that "Right Fit" crap. Quality coaches are falling off the board by the hour. It shouldnt be taking this long if he was prepared to take action.

d_prowess 10 years, 10 months ago

I will stand by my statements earlier in this blog; if we have a coach by Friday, I think our search was a reasonable time frame given the situation this year. WSU's quick hire of Leach was an exception and UNC seems to be the only other school to grab their coach and that was only confirmed today. Everyone else is still working on their search.

bad_dog 10 years, 10 months ago

Keep in mind folks, it's a 2 way street. The coach has to want to come here as well as be wanted by SZ.

Then you have to consider the salary issue. Lew set the bar pretty high with a 5 year guaranteed, non-incentive driven contract for a coach with few solid accomplishments to justify it. One can only imagine how SZ has to rationalize a sensible contract to Gill's potential successor. Especially a candidate with options...

tahawk81 10 years, 10 months ago

I think he has targeted his coach and they are negotiating now. Im expecting to hear something this evening or tomorrow sometime. I doubt he is still interviewing and weeding out canidates. He has a list and is starting at the top and is making offers. Once he is able to nail something down we will know.

trey 10 years, 10 months ago

Question... for those folks that like Chryst or Mahlzan (because they're coordinators from big-time BCS schools), why not the same interest in Doeren.

If I understand correctly, Doeren was D-Coordinator at Wisconsin. And now has 1 successful year as Head Coach. Though at non-BCS school, it's more than the other two have had.

Is it that he's only 37, and the others are older? Is it that he's a defensive guy, the others offensive? Or is it that he list to TGill this year?

If the latter, I think this is overblown. It was his 2nd game as a HC and it took last-minute heroics for KU to win. And at KU. And he went on to win the MAC.

For me, I'd be way more excited for Doeren than the other two. It almost seems that Doeren would be getting more love if he was still at Wisconsin with no HC experience. Not sure I get that.

justinryman 10 years, 10 months ago

I like to see guys build themselves. So if you have been a head coach what are you out to prove? You already made it. Sure you may want to make it bigger, but..

So a guy who is getting his first shot as a head coach will put everything into it to make it his, and get things done.

Lets face it we don't know if any of these 3 guys will be able to recruit. It's not like Northern Illinois was in a bad position and short on talent.

Offense v defense for me doesn't matter, as a head coach you have to get it done all around. Mike Leach all offense no defense. Bo Pelini all defense and no offense. You need a guy who understands the whole game of football and not just one aspect of it.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

Doeren took over for a team that was expected to win the MAC and won the MAC. It is not like he has a track record of building something which is needed here.

KSAuburnFan 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt, Roof is leaving for UCF because he sees the writing on the wall that he is/was more than likely going to be let go from Auburn. This seems like a classic "take another job before getting fired from the current one" deal.

JayDocMD 10 years, 10 months ago

If Zenger was ever interested in Jones this may be an opportune time to strike.

Jones may have burned his SMU bridge in this ASU deal that apparently went south. Who knows how far it all went and what conversations took place. Sometimes its easier to move on to Plan B (KU?) than to return to the scene of the crime and deal with the players, asst coaches, administration and fans you almost ditched.

nwhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

It seems that if Zenger had wanted June Jones, he probably could have snagged him already. He's not that hot of a commodity. That leads me to think that he was never really a serious target.

JayDocMD 10 years, 10 months ago

You may be right, and I'm not sold on Jones being the best candidate, but he does meet a lot of the criteria. Has HC experience/success as well as some NFL experience to boot. He also should have some TX recruiting in roads in the 4 years at SMU.

Also, not sure I agree that Zenger could have hired him already even if he was #1 on Z's wish list. Jones isn't stupid and the best deal comes from pitting suitors against each other. Also, most everyone would say ASU is a more attractive job than KU. So I'm pretty sure that would have needed to fall through before KU would have a shot.

This is all a moot point if KU was never interested. Or if Jones has been using ASU all along to get a better deal from SMU (see MU/Matt Painter.)

Steve Hillyer 10 years, 10 months ago

Has any former NFL coach had success on the collegiate level? Reading Keegan's article today just depressed me, the longer this goes on the more distressed I become.

Graczyk 10 years, 10 months ago

Pete Carroll - that was an easy one Dave Wannstedt - moderately

Bville Hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

**Pete Carroll cheated and caught the last flight out before the Embassy fell.

Graczyk 10 years, 10 months ago

He was still successful. Honesty wasn't the question. Besides, after the Paterno thing, can you trust anyone?

Ethan Berger 10 years, 10 months ago

Peete was in college before pros. Im talking before he coached the jets.

nwhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

So you're looking for guys that skipped college, went straight to coaching in the pros, then came to coach in college? Hmm . . .

Steve Hillyer 10 years, 10 months ago

Yea, I was looking for guys that started in or made a name in the NFL and then went to college, Harbaugh is one I should have thought of, and Carroll...the only one I could think of off the top of my head was Callahan at NE, I'm sure there are more I just can't think of any.

rob4lb 10 years, 10 months ago

Al Groh and Chan Gailey fall under moderately succesful

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

This AP article suggests that former NFL coaches succeeding at the college level is a rarity:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/22253185/

tanntann01 10 years, 10 months ago

With whoever we may hire....any of you guys think any one will transfer, running backs? D Willis? or who will start at qb?

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 10 months ago

Personally, I don't think you'll see many transfers, but I guess you never know. Willis already sat out a year because of his transfer, I seriously doubt he'll want to sit out another year or play at DII. I'd take a guess at QB, but since I don't think much of Webb and haven't seen the others (other than Matthews), I wouldn't even know where to start.

Mike Barnhart 10 years, 10 months ago

Who are these "sources"? Simone from Ferris Beuhler's economics class; "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

Thank you, Simone.

DevilHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt,

Re: Jones & ASU:

The ASU fanbase is particularly dissatisfied with the idea of hiring Jones. They want a coach that has proven himself on the college level at schools in AQ conferences. Most of the names that are being rumored or suggested as possible targets in ASU's coaching search do not particularly "wow" the fans. Jones is viewed by the fans as a mediocre coach and similar to the previous two coaches (Koetter and Erickson).

My point is that it is not surprising that the situation has been up-and-down regarding the ASU coaching position.

If Jones is a serious candidate for the KU opening, then now would seem to be a good opportunity to make him the offer.

lama 10 years, 10 months ago

Things would be much worse for KU if Lisa Love were in charge. She extends Koetter, fires him. Hires/fires Erickson. Hires Sendek. Watches baseball program implode. Whiffs on Sumlin and now Jones.

Simply awful.

Joe Ross 10 years, 10 months ago

I agree with this wholeheartedly! I've been saying all along that people who are advocates for June Jones are sniffing the wrong trail. He is NOT who you want at Kansas! It concerns me about the search that his name comes up so often. If I knew for sure that Zenger were hot on his trail I would be very concerned about his ability as AD. June Jones will not turn the program around at Kansas. PERIOD!

Ervin O'Neal 10 years, 10 months ago

Matt,

Can you prevent people like dannylandoofus from ever posting on this site? Seriously. The man is evaluating Zenger's performance in regards to hiring a coach without any knowledge whatsoever as to Zenger's actions. He is simply going by the fact that it took Arizona State fewer days to hire a new coach than it has taken Zenger. Someone please inform him that ASU took a lot longer to get their man than it would take Alabama, LSU or Texas. ASU is a much more desireable position than KU. Also, SBnation is reporting that ASU has called off talks with June Jones. I guess ASU needs to fire their AD now.

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-jayhawks/2011/12/7/2619246/could-june-jones-land-with-kansas-football-after-arizona-state-smu

John Myers 10 years, 10 months ago

Unfortunately, they apparently don't ban people for being idiots, or ahperse and manginorh00lz (to name a couple) would have been gone a LONG time ago..

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

ASU called off the contract for...

...wait for it...

Jones TAKING TOO LONG TO MAKE UP HIS MIND.

Sounds like he'd be a perfect fit at KU, and should now be considered the frontrunner. Due to take the position sometime in February.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 10 months ago

Jones has a 2 million dollar buyout. 6 million to get rid of gill and 2mill just to get jones?

kupride4u 10 years, 10 months ago

Goin out on a limb....the next KU football coach will be the FAT MAN

Charlie Weis

Justin LoBurgio 10 years, 10 months ago

http://www.footballrumormill.com/

Saying KU may have an interest in Charlie Weiss.

Again, just a rumor website.

texashawk10 10 years, 10 months ago

Why? He was horrible as a head coach. Charlie is a great coordinator, but he flat out sucks as a head coach.

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

Where I am confused is, why is UNC a better job. Last time I checked they are a basketball school as well. We have been a doormat since the end of the Mangino era but at least we played in a BCS bowl within the last 4 years. UNC has done nothing but go to a few average bowl games and make negative off the field headlines. This all comes down to money, their athletic budget must be better since we just spent half of KU's to clean up Lou's mistakes!

Yes, Zenger is taking his time and I am growing impatient, but we all have to realize that he only has so much to work with. I am more frustrated with Lou for putting us in this mess and have hope that Zenger will bring us someone solid. I think we all can agree that we are past a big splash!

Graczyk 10 years, 10 months ago

I saw a blurb that Fedora has better recruiting ties in the south. That might make UNC more interesting to him. Also, doesn't he have some history with Bubba Cunningham? Not to mention that the ACC is more stable than the Big 12 at the moment.

lama 10 years, 10 months ago

Better school, better overall athletic department, better facilities (mainly stadium), bigger state, bigger recruiting base, easier league to win, better tradition (they've actually been to a lot of bowl games), no real pressure to win. How's that?

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

How many BCS bowls? Facilities don't even come close. Last time i checked Alabama, Oklahoma, Auburn, and LSU have more players on there roster from Texas, not North Carolina. State recruiting base does not matter at basketball schools. Mangino recruited in 5 different states.

lama 10 years, 10 months ago

UNC has been to 29 bowls (counting this year's game) -- I think KU has been to 12. It's simply easier to recruit and win there, and geography has a lot to do with it. Kenan Stadium is 60,000-plus and has been completely re-done (with no track). It's a better job.

doctorWho 10 years, 10 months ago

There will be even less pressure to win if NCAA investigations in to their football program leads to sanctions.

irvan moore 10 years, 10 months ago

charlie was my suggestion a day ago, i think he's proven to be be a good coach at just about any level, go get charlie.

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

June Jones is the best candidate for the job. The reason people at ASU don't want him is because their brains have been baked in the sun too long. Also, Jones' Hawaii team beat ASU in the Hawaii Bowl in 2006, so they are probably still steamed by that. His teams also beat Oregon State and Houston in bowl games.

This year? Well, he beat TCU - yes the TCU that was added to the Big 12 specifically for their football program.

Jones did lose to both Fedora and Sumlin this year but he has proven that he can resurrect programs. If he's not your favorite, fine. But let's at least give the man his due.

Joe Ross 10 years, 10 months ago

You rescued yourself with the last line of your post. Everything else is trash. Especially that delusional first sentence.

Joe Ross 10 years, 10 months ago

You rescued yourself with the last line of your post. Everything else is trash. Especially that delusional first sentence.

VaJay 10 years, 10 months ago

Wonder why no one talks about Ralph Friedgen (although he's 64), who was dumped by Maryland a year ago for no apparent reason & was a solid winning coach (7 bowls in 10 years).

Why hire an OC or DC when there's still a choice of good head coaches like Friedgen & Fulmer?

Mike Barnhart 10 years, 10 months ago

Fulmer? Maybe. Friedgen was Mangino with two extra years of failure at the end.

VaJay 10 years, 10 months ago

2008 8-5 2009 2-10 2010 9-4

Bowl games 4 of last 5 yrs & won 3

John Mueller 10 years, 10 months ago

just read a string on SI.com that speculated about the potential of Jeff Fisher.

Now, THAT would be a great hire!!

I cannot imagine him having any interest, zero, in recruiting and dealing with admin of college coaching job, but if he did have an itch, that would be fantastic.

The man is a winner and a great coach.

That could be exciting.

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

I could not agree more, talk about a splash. He more than likely would bring in an awesome staff. Texas ties and would turn our horrible defense around within 1, not 2 years!

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

I could not agree more, talk about a splash. He more than likely would bring in an awesome staff. Texas ties and would turn our horrible defense around within 1, not 2 years!

JayHawkFanToo 10 years, 10 months ago

Jeff Fisher salary was $6.5 million per year and I understand there are several NFL teams interested in him. There is no way he comes to KU.

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

There are rumors out there that Charlie "freaking" Weiss is in the mix now. Could Zenger be pulling out a miracle? What have you heard in the last 5 hours Matt?

kugrad93 10 years, 10 months ago

Charlie Weiss couldn't win at Notre Dame!

Seth Nesmith 10 years, 10 months ago

What's with all the retread NFL coaches? Seriously, Weiss? I have more faith in Zenger then I do some of this fanbase's train of thought.

ebizzle 10 years, 10 months ago

June Jones-ASU Sumlin-A&M Fedora-UNC

Just reported the first two on ESPN. Looks like we get last pick.

Seth Nesmith 10 years, 10 months ago

With all the options out there we've discussed on this blog, I'd be happy with bringing Mangino back at this point. Nothing sounds good. I'd prefer to give reggie mitchell a chance before some of these hacks we've been discussing.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 10 months ago

Anyone else getting tired of all this silence.... I'm sure Matt Tait is getting sick of trying to dig up something, anything to feed to the masses. As a KU fan, I would like to at least have something leaked one way or another, geez.

Daniel Kennamore 10 years, 10 months ago

I think the reason their is no progress to leak is because there is no actual progress happening.

treed14ku 10 years, 10 months ago

I can't believe how much Matt Tait is dropping the ball as a KU beat writer. His only job assignment right now is to follow this coaching hire and he's provided zero updates for over 6 hours now. Must be a pretty easy job to post a few links to this site every 2 or 3 hours. You have a job, please do it the best of your ability Tait.

VaJay 10 years, 10 months ago

Wow. Why don't you step up to the plate then...
He really should work 24 hours a day though, you're right! And since he only has to post a few times a day, that must be all he does. I'm sure he has minions doing all the calls and investigations for him.

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

Yes, and when there's nothing to be heard or reported on, he really should be fabricating stories, just for filler... What an ungrateful douche you are.

Matthew Pritchard 10 years, 10 months ago

Weiss a hack, are you kidding me? Since Lou Holtz, no one has won at Notre Dame. He helped take the Chiefs to the playoffs, coached a two time Super Bowl MVP not to mention the staff he would put together. Do some of you[ jhawklin] even follow college and NFL football? The man has coached in numerous super bowls!

texashawk10 10 years, 10 months ago

Charlie Weiss is a great offensive coordinator, but he was completely ineffective as a head coach. There are some coaches out there are just flat out better suited to be coordinators rather than head coaches and Charlie Weiss is one of those coaches. I would absolutely love to have him as the offensive coordinator, but I don't want him as a head coach at KU.

Scott Wooten 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm freaking out. All this is crazy.

One thing I know is our is AD is a bad mamma jamma from way back when!

JAYHAWK NATION!

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Oh man... Nothing for hours. What I've feared is coming true. No coach of any caliber wants to come to KU... It's embarrassing. I'll gladly eat my words but tomorrow morning we will hear that KU has hired their new head coach and how much you wanna bet his name hasn't been mentioned once by anyone on this blog?

Scott Wooten 10 years, 10 months ago

Dude, why so negative? We're doing big things, that's the reason you haven't heard anything.

DevilHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

For the sake of curiosity:

What would you think if we hired Ron Zook?

buckleyhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Please don't ask questions like that...devil.

DevilHawk 10 years, 10 months ago

The question isn't directed at Matt.

Rather, it's directed at everyone else who is reading or commenting.

I understand why he is not under consideration, not the least of which is undoubtedly the fact that he was just fired recently from Illinois.

However, what he can and cannot do as a head coach is known. Additionally, he has worked with Reggie Mitchell before and, I assume, would keep him on the staff.

Hire him to a short two or three year contract with the possibility of a performance-based extension. Bring KU back to a position of at least competing in games and continue to upgrade the talent-level of the program.

During his tenure, keep an eye out for a good coach to hire. There are many changes that occur in the coaching world after two seasons, and Dave Doeren would likely have finished coaching three years at Northern Illinois.

ja3hawk 10 years, 10 months ago

What do you think SZ is doing at this very moment?

buckleyhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Finishing his coffee. Or his White Russian. Or maybe cancelling team meetings to go have pizza with his family. Or his Chicago friends.

Katie Bieber 10 years, 10 months ago

Reading this thread, maybe looking for leads.

buckleyhawk 10 years, 10 months ago

Leads...let me check with the boys down at the crime lab.

Oh the KUSports.com fun at 11:30p...

Katie Bieber 10 years, 10 months ago

Would you accept ideas instead of leads? I don't see the problem with leads, but if it's too NCIS, I'd be happy to redact it.

texashawk10 10 years, 10 months ago

One of Tait's early dark horse candidates, Justin Fuente, was hired as the head coach at Memphis today.

esque 10 years, 10 months ago

I think many of you who've been complaining about KU sitting on it's hands while all the good coaching candidates are getting snapped up by other, more aggressive schools are unable to come to grips with the new reality. That reality is that the Kansas job is a s*&%$#y one, even taking into consideration all the money KU is willing to throw at these coaches.

I find it hard to believe that someone actually thinks Zenger's been sitting idly by while every other school with a coaching vacancy is working harder to get it filled. He's simply been unable to get his man. That is the reality here. Lew fell victim to Gill's charms and the result has been deadly for KU football and I fear, possibly for years to come.

Some of you may recall Lew stated that if he ever had an opportunity to do so, he would hire Gill as head football coach as he was so impressed with him upon meeting him a number of years ago. Of course when the opportunity presented itself...well you know the rest. We can only hope that Zenger's football expertise serves him well as this search plays out.

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

Thank you! I can't believe coaches aren't lining up around the corner for this dream job. I mean, just the fact that Les Miles or Nick Saban isn't interviewing or being hired is an obvious indication that Zenger is a worthless AD and hasn't done anything for the last 2 months.

Chris1955 10 years, 10 months ago

A new day, at least technically. Will we know today? Probably not.

This is reminding me of the old Pogo comic strip quote. "We have met the enemy. It is us." I'm hoping for the best, but highly doubting it will occur. Good Night!

Lance Cheney 10 years, 10 months ago

2 relevant pieces of info, for whatever they're worth...

http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop

"Kansas: We hear a lot of coaches have gone to bat for Jim Leavitt for the Kansas job."

"Mark Helfrich: Nothing specific, but we sure do get asked a lot about Oregon offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Mark Helfrich."

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