KU best team of 21st century? Also, videos of Wayne Selden, Joel Embiid from Jordan Brand Classic


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Matt Lombardi, the editor-in-chief for the blog College Spun, did a study to try to determine the most successful men's college basketball NCAA Tournament teams in the 21st century.

He used this point system:

Round of 64 loss = 0 points
Round of 32 loss = 1 point
Sweet 16 loss = 2 points
Elite Eight loss = 4 points
Final Four loss = 8 points
Championship Game loss = 12 points
National Champions = 16 points

After adding up all the numbers, KU was No. 1 in the rankings with 68 points. North Carolina was second with 64 points.

Lombardi said at first he was surprised that the Jayhawks ended up on top, but he then cited the Jayhawks' consistency as the reason they took the No. 1 spot.

The Jordan Brand Classic high school all-star game is taking place Saturday in New York City, and in the last day, there have been some highlight videos posted of KU signees from the pregame workouts.

Here's cued-up video of Wayne Selden's dunks, including an impressive alley-oop slam:

Also, here's Joel Embiid putting in some dunks of his own:

• Speaking of Selden, here are some of his highlights from last week's McDonald's All-American game, in case you missed them:

One last recruiting item: KU remains in the race for the class of 2013's No. 1 overall player Andrew Wiggins, who is also considering Florida State, Kentucky and North Carolina.

His highlight film is worth a look if you haven't seen it yet.

• College basketball analyst Ken Pomeroy points out a statistical oddity that relates to KU in his latest ESPN column (subscription required).

Remember when KU freshman guard Rio Adams exploded for 11 points on 4-for-5 shooting in KU's 91-63 victory over Texas Tech in the Big 12 tournament?

Kansas guard Rio Adams defends against Texas Tech guard Daylen Robinson during the second half of the second round of the Big 12 tournament on Thursday, March 14, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Missouri.

Kansas guard Rio Adams defends against Texas Tech guard Daylen Robinson during the second half of the second round of the Big 12 tournament on Thursday, March 14, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Missouri. by Nick Krug

According to Pomeroy, it "was the shortest appearance this season for a player scoring in double figures."

Adams needed just 4 minutes, 43 seconds to put in his 11 points.'s Seth Davis has KU ranked No. 13 in his not-too-early college basketball preseason poll for 2013-14.

Davis, who admits in the article much of KU's high ranking is based on coach Bill Self's history of churning out winning teams, does not have any other Big 12 schools ranked in his top 25.

And finally, a couple months ago I was introduced to the song "Withey, Without You" via a friend on social media.

I watched it once, forgot about it, then had it reverberate again in my head once again this week.

Maybe it's the "We can't win ... Withey without you" lyric. I don't know.

But here it is. Good luck getting it out of your head.


Steve Gantz 9 years, 4 months ago

I don't feel like we're the most successful NCAA team in the 21st century. The criteria they used should probably place more value on Championships won. We are definitely the most consistent team on the list with 7 of those seasons ending in the elite 8 or better.

On the other hand whenever anyone wants to call us the best we'll gladly accept it. KU's had an amazing run during our lifetimes. 8 final fours just since I came to KU in '85! 4 championship games! 2 titles! A couple of bad losses in the tourney are the only blemishes.

Like a lot of people say here, it's great to be a Jayhawk!

Jayhawk444 9 years, 4 months ago

Its 5 championship games - in addition to 2 titles in 88 and 08, there were title game losses in 91, 03, and 12.

dylans 9 years, 4 months ago

Do you think those bad losses are so easy to remember because they are so few and far between?

William Weissbeck 9 years, 4 months ago

We need Wiggins in the worst way (at least to keep him away from UNC and UK). Recruiting makes no sense anymore. If you added up all the rosters of the Final Four this year what would you get in terms of NBA talent? Michigan succeeded by recruiting an overlooked player and an under recruited player, had a serviceable big man, and some low turnover guards that could score if needed. Louisville - even less talent. It's a touch call. KU's team this year was technically developed talent plus McClemore. Similar to Syracuse of 2003. We just needed more consistent scoring. Who knows - the whole season just needed one more made basket.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 4 months ago

Why do we need to keep him away from UNC and UK?

Bobby Burch 9 years, 4 months ago

Embiid has gotten bigger in the last 6 months! Hopefully a telling observation of 1) his work ethic 2) ability to put on weight and 3) his (expanding?) ceiling.

Selden has the look of a superstar, and as it appears on Twitter, he seems like a really nice, team player sort of guy.

Rock Chalk!

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 9 years, 4 months ago

Selden looks "thick" -- in a good way. He will be a force.

clevelandjayhawker 9 years, 4 months ago

I like this article more than the last one....99.4% chance of winning.

Future looks bright and should be fun, I want wiggins, but even without him we should have depth...oh and I think we have a coach that gets the best out of his players

jayhawkinnc 9 years, 4 months ago

it's actually 5 title games since the late 80's: 1988, 1991, 2003, 2008, 2012

championhawks 9 years, 4 months ago

I had no problem getting that song out of my head... either because I couldn't understand a single word the guy was saying or because it was so annoying I had to turn it off after about 20 seconds

Robert Brown 9 years, 4 months ago

In determining the best team of the 21st century, the other contenders would be UNC, Duke and Florida, all of whom have won two championships or teams that have been in the tournament every year in the century. That list is small and includes: Duke, Michigan State, Wisconsin (that is a surprise) and Gonzaga,along with KU. MSU also won a championship in 2000. Based on these facts, the contenders for team of the century would be KU, Duke, UNC and MSU. It is hard to pick a team. All have had some early exits from the tournament. I think if KU has an additional championship, there would be no question about their status as team of the century.

dylans 9 years, 4 months ago

I think it's a bit early to write off the upcoming 86 years of this century.

mandomax 9 years, 4 months ago

you sure know how to get the fans riled up for next season, Jesse!

Joe Joseph 9 years, 4 months ago

On how many of those dunks was Andrew Wiggins actually looking down at the rim?


jgkojak 9 years, 4 months ago

Had we won our 2nd championship or had another final four it would be more definitive

Andy Godwin 9 years, 4 months ago

Wow. Wiggins has some serous hops. I thought Ben could fly until watching this video. He drives the ball like Releford, but only at twice the speed. Would be great if he chose KU, but recruiting is such an inexact science it is impossible to predict some times. I though for sure Randle was coming to KU, so no idea about this 5 star recruit. As a KU fanatic, one can only hope, because UK has already been anointed the 2013-2014 NCAA champs, even without Wiggins in their recruiting class.

jhox 9 years, 4 months ago

I can see why a lot of people think he's the best to come along since Lebron. He could transform next years' team from maybe top 10 to 15, into a team with legit national championship aspirations, Wow is right.

If it can't be us I hope it is FSU. I can't stand the thought of Calicheat landing this kid. Unfortunately, he's made comments lately suggesting he may be leaning that way.

dylans 9 years, 4 months ago

This just in Calipari has just signed 20 of the top 25 recruits, but "Thinks he has room for one more."

otaKU 9 years, 4 months ago

After watching the highlights above, I think we'd definitely be back in the final four discussion if we added Wiggins to go along side Selden, Ellis, and Tharpe.

Scott Smetana 9 years, 4 months ago

I disagree with all of you Wiggins fans. We're fine without him. I have no doubt we'll be better next year with one major assumption... one of our 7 footers develops quickly. Seldon will replace BMac and we'll be better at the 4 and 1 positions.

ParisHawk 9 years, 4 months ago

Wiggins or no Wiggins, you are very optimistic there, or you are underestimating the contributions of Withey (he will be missed even if Embiid develops at light speed) and Young. I'm not going to argue about EJ even though I love him, it's just too sad and strange.

No matter how you spell his name, Selden will have a hard time being just as good as BMac, who had an extra semester of practice before this year.

And who is going to replace Releford?

And who is going to be our backup 4?

And who is going to be our backup point guard?

"Better next year" is more than a stretch, it's implausible.

Timothy Rake 9 years, 4 months ago

...and probably exactly an echo of someone posting last year: "or are you underestimating the contributions of TRob (he will be missed....) and who is going to replace TT and who is going to replace.....blah, blah, blah... Happens every year. HCBS seems to find a way to develop a TEAM.

Scott Smetana 9 years, 4 months ago

If Ellis improves half as much as Withey each year, he'll be an all american in no time.
Backup PG will be Frankamp.... I'm thinking Kirk Hinrich, Jr. Backup 4 will be Traylor... Stud. Seldon looks like a scorer, and let's not forget BMac did disappear in more than one game this year. 3 is a glue guy. AW3?
Let's not forget we have a top 3 coach.

Very little stretch to imagine we'll be better next year.

shufly 9 years, 4 months ago

Do the math, Wiggins is going to Wichita State and as his brother said "shock the world".

Andy Godwin 9 years, 4 months ago

How many times is WSU on national TV annually? A star like Wiggins may bring WSU more national exposure, especially after this year but his exposure still would pale in comparison to if he attended KU, UK, or UNC. Maybe they could get a game day and Dickie V. to show up in Wichita.

Jeff Kilgore 9 years, 4 months ago

The discussion board keeps talking about the "development" of Embiid. Michael Jordan must think he has developed some kind of game already or we wouldn't be in the MJ Brands game tomorrow night.

I'm much more optimistic about him next year. No way will he redshirt if he's considered a Top 20 player.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 4 months ago

Wiggins' spin move is so electric, and the only thing more amazing would be watching Selden deliver his no look passes to him. Watching '05 last night, Juju' passes reminded me of Selden. It will be fun.

Greg Lux 9 years, 4 months ago

I know a lot of folks would love to see Wiggins sign with KU for one year. How could you not want a player of his caliber. The problem is we don't really have much of a chance to get him. Listening to his comments about UK its hard to believe he will know go there in the end. They have everything he wants, A talented point guard, A talent loaded of teammates, A belief that if he goes there UK is a slam dunk to win the National Championship if he joins that group. The only reason for him to come to KU would be the field house, the fans, and the belief he could have a solid group to feed him the ball time and again. He believes he is so good no one can hold him back. All he wants is the ball and a team that could win with him aboard. Only other option would be FS for his parents, but I just don't see it happening. I would rank the chances of landing Wiggins at KU 1 in 3. I think its UK, FS, KU and NC. He's made up his mind and is toying with the press and having fun. After all why declare unless you don't want the attention. Sorry fans that's the way I see it. I would love to see his talent at the Fog, but it just doesn't add up that way. I pray I am wrong .. Either way we are going to be a fun team next year.

Rock Chalk

Sam Burns 9 years, 3 months ago

Why was the point system set at 12 for a national championship loss and 16 for a win? why not continue the points pattern used in the earlier games and make them worth 16 and 32? Was this used to manipulate the outcome ?

Hoosierhawkfan 9 years, 3 months ago

New song for the guitar dude.....................

Wiggins without you,

We're winning without you.

trentvoth 9 years, 3 months ago

This is a screenshot from the New Superman: Man of Steel extended trailer

Check out Clark Kent sporting his Jayhawk pride! Rock Chalk!

(Great Job DC for recognizing how Kansan Superman really is- where do you think he got his color scheme!?)

P.S. No kidding, Clark Kent gets inducted into the Kansas Hall of Fame June 21 - one week after Man of Steel debuts in theaters!

Superman sporting KU gear! Rock Chalk!

(2:21) In the new extended trailer 

<a href= class="credit">Superman sporting KU gear! Rock Chalk! (2:21) In the new extended trailer by trentvoth

justanotherfan 9 years, 3 months ago

Does KU need Andrew Wiggins to have a good team next season - No.

There's already plenty of talent in the system to be good, perhaps even very good, next season without Wiggins.

Don't kid yourselves, though. Wiggins changes EVERYTHING if he comes to Kansas. Watch the video. The kid's skills are ridiculous. He can handle, shoot, he's athletic as they come. He's a different level of player. He is the type of talent that would start anywhere in the country from day one. Adding him to the mix gives us a lineup of Tharpe-Selden-Wiggins-Ellis-Embiid. That's a no joke lineup.

Will Andrew White and Brannen Greene contribute next year? Certainly. But let's be honest - they aren't the level of player that Wiggins is. That's not a knock on them, but it's the truth. Greene and White are both great shooters, but Wiggins can shoot or drive, and is more athletic. Having him on the team changes the ceiling for that team.

In basketball there are "ceiling guys" and "floor guys." Floor guys make sure that you don't under achieve. These are guys like Kevin Young and Travis Releford. They keep the team together, help you win the games you should, etc. You can have a team of good "floor" guys and win 22 or so games. Ceiling guys are what helps make teams potentially elite. Perry Ellis is a floor guy. He's gonna be solid in every respect, churn out his production, etc. But Wiggins is a ceiling guy. His presence bumps the potential up another level. You look at him and think, yeah, that guy could go for 30 and 15 tonight and just completely demolish the other team. Selden has some of that in him as well. Wiggins and Selden together? Wow.

Can KU win without Wiggins? Yeah, of course. It's Kansas. Will winning be easier with him? If you don't know the answer to that, you should probably rewatch his highlight package.

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