Marcus Morris tops ratings in KU loss to VCU


1. Marcus Morris: Did not slip into the mode of trying to win it all by himself as Sherron Collins did against Northern Iowa. Morris didn’t shoot great but had a terrific game, especially when leading the charge on a comeback early in the second half. Showed relentless effort on the boards and finished with 20 points, 16 rebounds (eight offensive) and two steals.

2. Tyshawn Taylor: Made a few mental mistakes defensively, but played well and had a far better postseason than regular season. Primed for a big senior year.

3. Markieff Morris: Had eight turnovers and ranks third here, which says all that needs to be said about KU’s performance. Hit the boards hard, picking up 12, five on offense, to go with 13 points, two blocked shots and two steals.

4. Tyrel Reed: Made 1 of 9 shots and 1 of 7 three-pointers and ranks fourth here, which says all that needs to be said about KU’s performance. Had nine points and five rebounds.

5. Brady Morningstar: Made 1 of 7 shots and missed all three three-point attempts. Had three assists, one turnover and three steals.

6. Josh Selby: Tried to shoot KU back into it but as was the case for most of his time since returning from injury, he couldn’t find the hoop. Made 1 of 5 shots and none of his three three-pointers in 15 minutes. When he scored with 4:21 left in the first half to draw KU within 36-21, those were the first points scored by anyone other than Marcus and Markieff Morris.

7. Mario Little: Scoreless in five minutes, he had two rebounds, two personals, one assist and one turnover.

8. Thomas Robinson: Got into early foul trouble and never became a factor. Scoreless with one rebound and one assist in six minutes, he did come up with a big blocked shot late.

9. Elijah Johnson: Scored a point and had an assist in six minutes of action.

10. Travis Releford: Played one defensive possession at the end of the first half but did not appear in the first official NCAA box score distributed.

The Keegan Ratings: Season Standings
1. Marcus Morris (320 points)
2. Markieff Morris (282 points)
3. Tyshawn Taylor (242 points)
4. Tyrel Reed (232 points)
5. Brady Morningstar (231 points)
6. Thomas Robinson (211 points)
7. Josh Selby (135 points)
8. Mario Little (133 points)
9. Elijah Johnson (128 points)
10. Travis Releford (103 points)
11. Jeff Withey (57 points)
12. Royce Woolridge (7 points)

The Keegan Ratings: Big 12 and postseason standings
1. Marcus Morris (203 points)
2. Markieff Morris (166 points)
3. Brady Morningstar (165 points)
4. Tyrel Reed (150 points)
5. Tyshawn Taylor (133 points)
6. Thomas Robinson (116 points)
7. Mario Little (99 points)
8. Josh Selby (88 points)
9. Elijah Johnson (78 points)
10. Travis Releford (32 points)
11. Jeff Withey (24 points)
12. Royce Woolridge (3 points)


Darrel Stice 11 years, 3 months ago

Thanks, Keegan, I always enjoy The Keegan Ratings. They're the first thing I look for after each game.

Not a fun way to end the season, but what a season it was!! I guess only one team goes home happy at the end of the madness.

Until next year, ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!!!!!

kesmithstl1 11 years, 3 months ago

maybe you need to include the other team in your rankings. Other than Marcus, every player got outplayed today by their man! Tough way to end the year, but VCU is hot.

Bilas just made a great point. There are (were) no great teams in the tourney this year, so when 1 team gets hot the way VCU is, they are going to be tough to beat.

kesmithstl1 11 years, 3 months ago

not a troll jacka##! VCU is the hottest team going right now! They shot 35% from 3 point range all year. For the tourney, they are shooting 44% That is stepping up, or playing over your head (1 of the 2).

Gregor Southard 11 years, 3 months ago

don't worry, kesmithstl1, no one on here wants honest analysis right now. Look at how people reacted to my posts elsewhere. The world didn't end last night

ajhk 11 years, 3 months ago

Get over it nash. kesmiths comments are nothing like yours. You said the morrii, and TT were not committed and told them they were not wanted here.
kesmiths comment is an observation of play, he isn't attacking the commitment and character of the players who performed the best in this game.

jayhawksbiggestfan 11 years, 3 months ago

I remember several steals by Tyrel that are no listed here. Let it be known that he is not to blame for this loss against an excellent team. I say go all the way VCU and then we will all know they are better than advertised.

Alex Berger 11 years, 3 months ago

Reed is not THE reason we lost but shooting 1-7 from three hurt (especially his 3 or 4 wide open looks). I think his injury played a factor with that though and hope it will not taint his legacy in our (the fans) minds.

Dirk Medema 11 years, 3 months ago

What's Jaybate's term for this style of play? The ref's can't call them all, tho on a few of the scrums under the basket it was amzing that nothing was called. In some ways it reminded me of the second half of UT. Granted, the story line was all the off the court issues, but it appeared to me that UT just pushed us around very similarly to VCU. This team is not soft, but it also very definitely got out toughed by a long margin today.

Dirk Medema 11 years, 3 months ago

I've been shaking my head for 3 months at people who have said that FT's won't hurt us, the people who have the ball at the end of the game are our best FT shooters, ... The '08 team won not because of Memphis' misses, but b/c they went from a 60% team in December to a 70% team in conf, to 14-15 in the championship game. That doesn't happen by chance.

Dirk Medema 11 years, 3 months ago

Similarly, '03 was a bride's maid b/c we shot <50% FT's.

It makes a difference, and they're not free. You just pay in advance.

NJHAWK 11 years, 3 months ago

I thought that Shaka made a smart move by asking for a technical when KU had the momentum. He knew that the refs will call fouls against KU players to make up for the technical thereby killing the momentum. That is a very smart VCU coach. Larry Brown always begged for technicals and used them to get advantage for his team. I do not remember Self getting a single technical this year.

riverdrifter 11 years, 3 months ago

Tyrel Reed: Made 1 of 9 shots and 1 of 7 three-pointers...

Brady Morningstar: Made 1 of 7 shots and missed all three three-point attempts.

Josh Selby: Made 1 of 5 shots and none of his three three-pointers in 15 minutes.

Thomas Robinson: Got into early foul trouble and never became a factor. Scoreless with one rebound and one assist...

Four players whom Self needed to step into the breach.

texasdochawk 11 years, 3 months ago

KU simply got outplayed and definitely outcoached today. Markieff had arguably one of his worst offensive days of his career, contributing 8 turnovers and not able to make the bunnies down low. He's had a great year but why Self insists on sticking with the starters, even when they are clearly off, is a mystery to me. Robinson played 6 minutes in this game...Really!!! I know he had three fouls at one point but so did Kief!!!

Also I thought Selby was providing a spark on both ends of the court despite just 1 of 5 shooting...he didn't play at all down the stretch!!

Eerily similar to last year when we went out prematurely to UNI when Sherron just didn't have it.

Guess the old saying applies "you dance with the one that brought ya..."

I don't know guys, frustrating to say the least.

Great year though, thanks Hawks!!!

Jayhawk6 11 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone know about who is returning next year? I know they all said they don't want to think about it right now, but does anyone have any information?

By the way great season, it was very fun to watch!

OGJayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Who believed at the first of the year our hawks would even play in an elite eight game. The team did above many people's expectations. I know it is a tough loss that will be with every member of the team for a long time. I very much appreciate the team and coaches for giving us such a great year.

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 3 months ago

a little comparison for you hcbs trolls. excluding last year, duke has lost to a team seaded higher (meaning duke was the favorite) than them for seven straight years. most of these losses coming in or before the sweet 16.

Hank Cross 11 years, 3 months ago

Well at least it's the last Keegan Ratings with Brady and Tyrel. In the end though, it's not really their fault. They may be good kids who play hard, but they're just not that talented. Brady has a miserable pre-season against decent non-conference opponents. Then he gets hot against the weaklings of the B12. Upon facing a good non-conference team again in a tough game, he reverts to form. No suprise.

No, the blame falls upon Bill "$3,000,000.00 per year" Self. He played his mini-me security blankets at all costs. And when they KU got cold, there was nothing on the bench to bail him out. I guess it was too risky in the blow-outs in the B12 tourney to get Travis and EJ more touches in last attempt to prep them for the tourney.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 3 months ago

You are correct in that this falls directly on coach Self.

Releford, who was left on the bench the entire last month of the season. A 6-6 wing player who is quick, perhaps the best defensive player, who is a slasher that proved he can hit the 3 would have been absolutely no help in this game, right? A guy who Self thought so much of after his off season workouts and preseason practice, he was a starter at the beginning of the season.

And Self's decision not play EJ really at all yesterday eliminated a competent 3 ball option, as well.

My hope is that coach Self will learn from this and improve as a coach. History says he'll just continue to approach games the same way. And he certainly won't take any blame for what occurred.

Hank Cross 11 years, 3 months ago

He's not going to learn - nothing ih his past indicates so. He's not going to take the blame for the same reason. He should hang what's sure to be the SI cover of this loss next to the UNI one on his own mirror.

Jerry Collins 11 years, 3 months ago

I'm among the first to blame coaching when needed. This wasn't the Self"s fault. All season long we have been forcing the ball inside and kicking back out for open 3's. They just didn't fall. Reed had 3 go almost all the way in before rimming out. Twins are usually deadly under the basket, but seemed a little tight. Self had the right players in the game but couldn't do anything about the shots not falling. I guess he could have had Selby in the full game so he could go 3-20 with 6 TO and no defense. Someone on one of these posts said Shelby will be preseason All American at the beginning of next year! Give me a break, he was the 8th best player on this year's team. He might become a key player, but he's got a lot to learn, like pass the ball instead of shooting everytime. BTW, I'm rooting for VCU all the way.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 3 months ago

Do you think, sometimes, that shots don't fall in a game and that the other team might be hot? Guess what, it happens. How do you adjust? See, there were two games. First, in the first half, they won. We made no real adjustments from a personnel perspective and got our tails kicked. In the first 9 minutes of the second half, we won. Self's personnel choices there were obviously correct. Cut the lead to two points. A dead even game.

Then, when VCU started pushing it out again? Nothing. You have to adjust. If not for the simply fact of the knowledge you gained in the first half. You have two players .. Reed and Morningstar .. who were completely cold, couldn't keep up on defense, and were contributing nothing other than hustle .. we were being out-athleted, so to speak. Your thought that he had the right players in the game is fiction.

Do you really think Reed and Morningstar should have been in the game, in the last 7 minutes?

And you have better athletic and better defensive options on the bench. But you play the same hand.

But don't blame coach Self .. he surely won't.

YuCoJayHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

You can't just throw all logic out the window because you're team loses. Of course Reed and Morningstar should have been in the game in the last 7 minutes. You only bring this up because they lost. If they complete the comeback and win with the same players on the floor, its not an issue. Unless your goal is to always take the pessimistic view whether KU wins or loses. Then you will be right 98% of the time when KU doesn't not win it all. Life is much more rewarding when you see the positives....

REHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Jayhawk players, coaching and training staff, thanks immeasurably for a terrific season. Though the VCU matchup just was not our day, you provided us with a season of thrills, almost five months of prime spectator and media entertainment. To the three seniors, here's wishing you the best in all future pursuits. Thanks for committing your degree-earning years to the Jayhawk program. Twins, TRob, TT and Selby, do what you gotta do, but don't make any quick emotional decisions. All of you still have room for development as top-level hoops stars. Hardly a better place to hone your skills than the program and site you are in. Bill Self, please don't let this tournament upset keep you down. You have once again done a splendid job in preparing and arranging the pieces for fantastic Jayhawk success. Most of us cherish your string of league titles, the essence of annual worth. Anything added to the plate after conference play is just gravy. Conner, Travis, EJ, Jeff, Royce and Co., keep those sneakers in action until November. No matter who returns or comes aboard, fans are looking forward to another exciting season in 2011-12. In the great postseason crapshoot, perhaps you will lead us to another national title banner. VCU, best of luck next weekend, esp. if you should advance to the Final vs. Kentucky. Shaka Smart, if Missouri or Oklahoma should come calling, give that opportunity some serious thought. The Big 12 could use the influx of a bright determined young coach.

Brian Conrad 11 years, 3 months ago

hope as fans we set our goal in future as Final Four. then see what happens. Final Four is fantastic accomplishment. If you always set the goal as national championship. for the players and fans VCU meant 3 more games. Self may stress 2 game tournaments but all I hear is 67 teams go home unhappy. trust me If you make Final Four 3 teams go home happy just little less than 1. under that takes couple weeks to get over and really never feels great... Final Four and years later I still wear my shirts and hats.. little less pressure. #1 goal at the start of a season should never be win it all.. just too much. only take 4 wins to be in the 2 game tourney for it all... VCU and Butler probably set goal to maybe get there. now 1 more win and they have a shot..I am all for Butler. they deserve it and truely want a new team to win it. we will be underdog next year but KU will always be good.. have hopes for one more year but do understand if few leave for NBA . that said Tyshawn will be back. EJ outstanding. Releford and Withey have great potential . Hope T Rob will understand NBA may noyt be best interest for hiself and his sister. raising his sister in the NBA pretty much will not be around every day. . In Lawrence he has the blessing of the NCAA for her financial help , great schools , chance to make long term home like Danny , Pollard and many ex players. . Selby would raise his stock huge with his role greatly expanded. If T rob and Selby return KU will be preseaon big 12 /whatever favorite .. even if they do not come back still will be very strong in coference especially if Ben and Daniels sign. any word on these guys?? shows Ben as only KU on the high list, sounds like he is coming not sure on the slow sign... he will be great as another tough defender and driving the basket. DeAndre Daniels now has Duke and San Dieago ST?? seemed like he was a lock few weeks back sounds like may be second thoughts? hope not with him and if T Rob comes back.. and Withey works hard to beef up and add the shot blocking.. well this team will be great. and Tharpe sounds really great.. Conner Tehan can provide some outside shots and senior smarts.Wesley has potential and Woolridge can provide some relief. as with all KU players they will be much better than most think because they have years of experience practicing against the best.. even with NBA door open.. this team will be forever a NCAA team. this will not be a middle of the pack team as long as Self is here.. and I for one have complete faith in more Final Fours. 131 wins in four years! never question his coaching.. just some bad breaks. . I say Final Four within 3 years and who knows twins may say... lets play together one more year.. outside chance but if they do Final Four 2012 for sure!

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