Naismith recording features basketball’s inventor explaining rules in his own words

By Matt Tait     Dec 15, 2015

A basketball fan hurries past an image of James Naismith and Phog Allen as the Fieldhouse begins to fill for Late Night in the Phog on Friday, Oct. 10, 2014 at Allen Fieldhouse.

On Monday, the discovery of an old recording from a radio program broadcast in 1939 was released and the recording featured something that might be near and dear to the hearts of KU basketball fans and fans of the game everywhere.

It’s an interview with James Naismith, the inventor of the game and first coach in the history of Kansas basketball and it is believed to be the only known audio recording of Naismith.

In it, Naismith, who had traveled to New York for a basketball doubleheader at Madison Square Garden, discusses setting up the first basketball game with two peach baskets in a gymnasium at the International YMCA Training School (now Springfield College) in Springfield, Massachusetts in December 1891.

This recording was discovered by Dr. Michael J. Zogry, Associate Professor, Religious Studies, and Director, Indigenous Studies, University of Kansas, in the audio and manuscript archives of radio station WOR-AM that were donated to the Library of Congress by RKO General, Inc. Dr. Zogry obtained permission for the University to include the recording in its archives and to use it for educational purposes.

In addition to the historical relevance of such audio, it’s a wonderful listen because it gives you a little more of a sense of the man for whom the court at Allen Fieldhouse is named and who you have seen in so many pictures throughout the years.

A photo of the original rules of Basket

As Zogry himself said at news.ku.edu: “The recording suggests the gym was a laboratory for developing the game and establishing the rules. There’s also value in just hearing his voice. In this day and age of media saturation, to find something like this is surprising. No one’s heard his voice in over 75 years. When we hear him talking, we get a sense of his demeanor and his self-effacing attitude.”

Hat’s off to Dr. Zogry for finding such an incredible interview and for sharing it with the world.

Here’s more about the process of Zogry’s incredible discovery.

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Written By Matt Tait

A native of Colorado, Matt moved to Lawrence in 1988 and has been in town ever since. He graduated from Lawrence High in 1996 and the University of Kansas in 2000 with a degree in Journalism. After covering KU sports for the University Daily Kansan and Rivals.com, Matt joined the World Company (and later Ogden Publications) in 2001 and has held several positions with the paper and KUsports.com in the past 20+ years. He became the Journal-World Sports Editor in 2018. Throughout his career, Matt has won several local and national awards from both the Associated Press Sports Editors and the Kansas Press Association. In 2021, he was named the Kansas Sportswriter of the Year by the National Sports Media Association. Matt lives in Lawrence with his wife, Allison, and two daughters, Kate and Molly. When he's not covering KU sports, he likes to spend his time playing basketball and golf, listening to and writing music and traveling the world with friends and family.