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Realignment Today: Reports indicate Big 12 zeroing in on making a serious push to expand with 4 schools

I am pleased with this slate of prospective additions. Yet I would like to see them add Memphis and Boise State as well to go to fourteen members.

September 5, 2021 at 2:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Realignment Today: Report pegs KU Chancellor Douglas Girod as part of Big 12's expansion committee

Amen!

It's going to be so sweet not having to deal with either one of them.

August 29, 2021 at 10:11 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Realignment Today: Report pegs KU Chancellor Douglas Girod as part of Big 12's expansion committee

I have read that Nebraska has buyer's remorse for their decision to join the B10. Bringing them back to the Big Twelve and getting Notre Dame as well would be quite a coup. Although those two alone easily replace OU/UT, probably neither would come without a well planned expansion, including sweet deals for them.

And it never hurts to ask.

August 27, 2021 at 11:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Realignment Today: Report pegs KU Chancellor Douglas Girod as part of Big 12's expansion committee

I do not see Notre Dame leaving its current orbit of the ACC for the Big 12.

Karen shared a couple of interesting editorials in her posts/links above. Each of those list Boise State, BYU, Cincinnati, and Central Florida as prime candidates. I would put Houston in place of Boise State for a four team expansion.

I like Brett McCabe’s response to the “Pac-12 Stays Pat” article, where he suggested building the AFL of the 2020's. Picture a mega-conference of twenty four schools, divided into four pods of six schools each. East: 1. West Virginia 2. Army 3. Navy 4. Cincinnati 5. Uconn 6.. Temple; South: 1. Houston 2. SMU 3. UCF 4. South Florida
5. Memphis 6. Tulane; Central: 1. Iowa State 2. Kansas 3. Kansas State 4. Oklahoma State 5. Air Force 6. TCU; West: 1. Texas Tech 2. Boise State 3. Brigham Young 4. Baylor 5. UNLV 6. Colorado State.

Markets included: Boise, Cininnati, Colorado Springs, Dallas-Fort Worth, Denver, Des Moines, Houston, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Lubbock, Memphis, New Orleans, New York City, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, Tampa.

Drawing up these expansion wish lists feels like filling out my brackets in March! Hawks all the way!

August 27, 2021 at 10:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Standing pat: Pac-12 decides it will not explore expansion

Most likely, Nebraska will never leave the B10. At the same time, should they stay in the B10, they will never return to preeminence in football. Should they return to the Big Twelve, they would re-open the "Texas pipeline" that contributed to some of the strongest teams they fielded. So there is at least some incentive for them to consider an offer.

I read elsewhere that Arizona and Arizona State could possibly be lured from the PAC-12 - an extreme long shot, I know.

As the three I just listed likely won't pan out, my expansion favorites remain Navy, Army, Cincinnati, UCF, Memphis, Houston, Air Force, and BYU. The top two of these would be Cincinnati and Houston if the league opted for a two-school expansion. For a four-school expansion, go for Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, and BYU.

KU still has a landing spot in the B10 or ACC should it come to that.

However long this plays out, it will be fun to watch.

August 27, 2021 at 7:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Realignment Today: Why KU remaining patient (for now) is the right move as the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 formally announce new alliance

It’s hard to see the Big Twelve go down in flames. If that’s the best hand that the remaining eight, and especially KU, should play - then it is what it is.

But I appreciate your coverage of this Matt - tremendous work and you are my number source for all of this.

The OU/UT move was like proverbially ripping off the bandage and leaving quite a mess for others to mend.

I think Goff is a tremendous asset for us. From what I’ve seen so far, he’s the right man at the right place and time to lead us out of this mess.

So shortly after the OU/UT story broke, Big Twelve Commissioner Bowlsby met with met his counterpart in the Pac-12, George Kliavkoff. Nothing appeared to come out of that. And then as we all know, the Pac-12, the B10, and the ACC have moved closer into some sort of an alliance, excluding the Big Twelve from those talks. Kliavkoff has indicated that the Pac-12 may be sending out expansion invitations in the next few weeks. So I am guessing that should be Pac-12 move to expand, at least some of the eight remaining members of the Big 12 will receive invitations.

Given the meeting between Bowlsby and Kliavoff prior to the three-conference negotiations, how possible could it be that a Pac-12/Big 12 merger had already been worked out prior to the alliance negotiations, which then would have proceeded under the assumption that the Pac-12 would include the eight remaining schools? Or have I read too much into that?

https://www.espn.com/college-football...

And either way, should KU receive a Pac-12 invitation next month, would it be best to just go for it and join them or wait for something better?

Coverage of the newly announced ACC/B10/Pac-12 alliance has focused on scheduling. Some where I read that the alliance would be able to muster some 41 votes against the SEC’s 16 regarding such issues as the logistics and details of the college football playoffs. In what other areas could this alliance leverage these votes over the SEC? I have not heard much about that aspect of the alliance.

I know I may be beating a dead horse here, but it seems that if being outvoted could prove significant to the SEC, then why not get more numbers on their side by keeping alive an expanded Big Twelve that would vote in alliance with the SEC? Both conferences would have to add numbers (e.g. SEC to 20 and B12 in excess of that).

My biggest struggle throughout all of this has been watching a number of scenarios where there would not have been any losers - all go up in smoke. But oh well, such is the life of a spectator watching high stakes events unfold.

August 25, 2021 at 10:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Realignment Today: As reports surface of a power conference alliance moving forward, at least one of those conferences remains open to expansion

I have seen that in a few articles recently. Yet how strongly is the ACC interested in West Virginia? If it comes down to a scenario where the remaining power conferences are competing to grab up the best remaining schools, West Virginia to the ACC could easily happen.

On the other hand, if West Virginia remains loyal to the Big Twelve, why not reward them by satisfying a previous request?

I think that if KU or Oklahoma State leave the Big Twelve, then the conference will not survive. But West Virginia leaving doesn’t sink the ship. In that case, if a Big Twelve expansion were occurring as described in my post above, add Uconn (or perhaps Temple) to replace them.

Temple is another school in the northeast that has fielded decent football teams recently. In the past it has held its own well in basketball.

I have read elsewhere that as relevant as markets (such as K.C., Dallas-Ft. Worth, etc.) may be, equally important will be the sheer volume of interest generated, i.e. people tuning into the games through all the various media now available. In light of this, there is simply far too much potential out there for anyone at this point to be able to declare that the Big Twelve is finished. For starters, the Big Twelve still holds power-5 status. And that can be consolidated through an innovative combination of member-expansion plus new media rights contracts.

Given that competition between ranked teams garners attention, an expanded Big Twelve with membership as listed above would include Iowa State (7) and Cincinnati (8) in the current AP top 25, with seven more teams listed as having received votes: Oklahoma State, TCU, BYU, UCF, Houston, West Virginia, Army.

And as far as markets factor in, the following would be included in this league: Cininnati, Colorado Springs, Dallas-Fort Worth, Des Moines, Houston, Kansas City, Lubbock, Memphis, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Salt Lake City, and then Philadelphia (if Temple were added) or New York City (with UConn).

Also, having Army, Navy, and Air Force all on board would make our conference unique; it would be a mark of distinction and an asset in many ways.

What I would hate to see would be any form of passive, reactionary, or defeatist approach to all this amongst Big Twelve decision makers. Going forward, a great offense will be the best defense, and there will be safety in (well selected) numbers.

August 22, 2021 at 10:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Realignment Today: As reports surface of a power conference alliance moving forward, at least one of those conferences remains open to expansion

For a Big Twelve expansion, begin by inviting all three service academies into the league: Army, Navy, and Air Force. Every December, the Army-Navy game gets nation-wide coverage as well as broadcasting to armed forces and federal government interests around the world. It would be great to see Air Force thrown into the mix with regularly scheduled games with the other two. All three service academies have fielded very respectable football teams for many years. And as I mentioned, there would be a world-wide interest in all games played by these teams in a major conference.

Then we would add well known up-and-coming schools who were literally knocking on our door back when Big Twelve expansion was last considered: Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, UCF - and for the final slot in a sixteen-team league, either Brigham Young or Uconn.

West Virginia once requested that we add schools in its vicinity. Adding Cincinnati, Navy, Army, and Uconn should adequately satisfy this.

August 22, 2021 at 9:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

'Don't panic,' Girod says of Big 12 unrest; stakes are high for KU, but school must avoid making a rash decision

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Among many other reasons for keeping alive the Big Twelve is the “Texas pipeline”. So long as Kansas remains in a league that includes Texas schools, it should be much easier to recruit from Texas. Case in point - after Nebraska moved to the Big 10, their recruiting in Texas dried up. I wouldn’t like to see the same thing happen to us.

As far as “negotiating with various platforms” is concerned, I love this idea. So many new possibilities exist with all the various new media outlets - perhaps it is very fertile ground for some lucritive new contracts. Recently I read some where how ESPN and Disney are scrambling to counter Amazon’s entry into these media markets. Given that ESPN may have instigated this predicament, it would be great to get a strong deal from Amazon or other rivals of theirs.

Finally, I think that as fans, we underestimate our own individual and collective influence and power. I would love to see fan-driven initiatives or even movements emerge - even advocacy groups or watchdogs. Girod’s admonition here - that this is going to be something markedly more broad and significant than mere realignment - is poignant. And the more each and every one of us gets involved, the better it will be for KU as well as everyone else.

July 29, 2021 at 10:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

'Don't panic,' Girod says of Big 12 unrest; stakes are high for KU, but school must avoid making a rash decision

I like what you have suggested, Suzi.

KU needs to assume a role of leadership throughout all of this in order to protect its own interests. So it will be fundamentally important to hold OU’s and UT’s feet to the fire, including securing every last cent those two schools owe to the Big Twelve. No stone should be left unturned - including exploring possible litigation against ESPN for tampering. In being a champion for the rest of the league, we would be taking steps that could contribute to the Big Twelve’s ultimate survival. At the same time, we would demonstrate to the rest of the nation - among other things - how much we value membership in a conference to which we are commited. In short for this last point, other conferences - which eventually we may want to join - might view it favorably if we handled this predicament well.

As far as realignment is concerned, I do not see TAMU or others in Power Five conferences moving to the Big Twelve. A&M’s Board of Regents recently voted 8-1 to direct the university’s president to vote for admitting OU and UT to the SEC.

Nevertheless, I believe there is ample opportunity here for creative solutions. You mentioned “negotiating with various platforms,” and I would like to briefly comment on that later. Here, I am focusing on prospective new members for the Big Twelve.

I would begin by suggesting something I haven’t seen discussed elsewhere, namely inviting all three service academies into the league: Army, Navy, and Air Force. Every December, the Army-Navy game gets nation-wide coverage as well as broadcasting to armed forces and federal government interests around the world. It would be great to see Air Force thrown into the mix with regularly scheduled games with the other two. All three service academies have fielded very respectable football teams for many years. And as I mentioned, there would be a world-wide interest in all games played by these teams in a major conference.

Then we would add well known up-and-coming schools who were literally knocking on our door back in 2016 when Big Twelve expansion was last considered: Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, UCF - and for the final slot in a sixteen-team league, either Brigham Young or Uconn.

Call our new league the National Athletic Conference.

(I have run afoul of the 3000-character limit, so I will divide this into two posts)

July 29, 2021 at 10:49 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

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