Tuesday, May 28, 2019

Kansas point guard Devon Dotson to make, announce stay-or-go decision Wednesday

Kansas guard Devon Dotson talks with media members during a press conference following the NCAA selection show on Sunday, March 17, 2019 at Allen Fieldhouse. The Jayhawks will play the Huskies in the opening round on Thursday in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Kansas guard Devon Dotson talks with media members during a press conference following the NCAA selection show on Sunday, March 17, 2019 at Allen Fieldhouse. The Jayhawks will play the Huskies in the opening round on Thursday in Salt Lake City, Utah.


Kansas point guard Devon Dotson is taking his stay-or-go decision to deadline day.

So says his father, Dana Dotson, who told the Journal-World in a phone interview Tuesday afternoon that Devon planned to return home Tuesday night to Charlotte, N.C., after a pro day for NBA scouts in Los Angeles, to meet with his family and make a decision, which will be announced sometime Wednesday.

Dana Dotson said he and his son have been in touch with KU’s coaches throughout the past several weeks as Dotson has explored his NBA stock, and the family now views the decision the KU point guard has to make as a can’t-go-wrong situation.

“He’s younger than I am,” said Dana when asked if he or Devon were nervous about the decision at hand. “I’ve made a bunch of decisions before, but he’s still young. But I do feel like it’s a win-win situation and either one has a bunch of advantages. That’s been our message to him and that’s what the coaches at Kansas have been saying, too.”

When the process began with Devon tossing his name into the 2019 NBA Draft pool and preparing for the NBA combine during mid-May, the family expected the following few weeks to be little more than an information-gathering process, with Devon and his agent getting feedback from actual NBA executives about what they liked and disliked about his game.

“It’s kind of evolved over time,” Dana said Tuesday. “It was always, hey let’s get the feedback and see if someone’s willing to offer guaranteed money, multiple years, at least then they have somewhat of a vested interest in you. What we didn’t know is in the last couple of years that range (in the draft) has kind of expanded. They were kind of showing us that through (picks No. 45, 46) about 95 percent of those guys have landed two-year contracts, as well.”

And with that ended the myth that the path to guaranteed money in the NBA draft exists only in the first round.

“You just don’t know what you don’t know,” Dana said.

Dana said Tuesday that he did not expect his son to take the decision to the final day but added that difficulty scheduling Devon’s pro day and the timing of some of the feedback and reviews of his game made things play out a little slower than expected. One big reason for that, he said, was the fact that so many NBA teams in mid-May were unaware of what the future held for their rosters, as well, with free agency, the draft and other player movement factoring in heavily.

He also said he thought “natural deadlines” were good for his son in this case.

“It just kind of forces you to make a decision,” Dana said. “It’s good for the school, it’s good for the players, it’s good for teams to know if guys are in or out.”

Therein brings the Dotson family down to the bottom line as they move toward a final decision. Today, it’s not as much about whether NBA people think Devon is big enough to play in the league or needs to work on this, that or the other. Today, the decision is about one thing and one thing only.

“Where’s he going to go,” said Dana, noting that Devon’s expected draft position would play the biggest role in his decision. “That’s what it all comes down to. But even with that, you still have to look at the specific situation and make sure it’s a good fit because the long term play is to make sure you’re ready and that you can have a career.”

After a teleconference tonight with his agent, Kevin Bradbury, to gain the last bit of NBA feedback available, the Dotson family will make the final decision on their own, together, possibly at the family’s kitchen table with a pizza and a few smiles.

“This hasn’t been anywhere near as stressful as recruiting was,” Dana said.

Like Dotson, both Dedric Lawson and Quentin Grimes also have until 10:59 p.m. Wednesday to pull their names out of the 2019 NBA Draft pool if so desired. But all indications, as of late Tuesday afternoon, were that Lawson plans to stay in and Grimes remains undecided.


Phil Leister 3 years, 4 months ago

Find it hard to believe a specific team will guarantee a pick and contract to Devon at this juncture. That's a hard promise to make when the guy is hovering around 60 on most draft boards.

Devon, come back and play your way into a lottery pick with an All-American season next year.

Adam Bengtson 3 years, 4 months ago

Not 1 of them will be drafted.

Also if a decision announcement has to come, that is an indication he is ready to leave.

I am sorry, human beings know or they don't know. There is no decision. We all say that to make it seem mysterious. We all lean initially one way or other.

John Swift 3 years, 4 months ago

I think he is gone. No need to continue to drag this out. 24 hours doesnt make any significnat difference. Sounds like he wants to go. Too bad for us. Agree none will be drafted.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 4 months ago

If Dotson wants to leave, what is he waiting for? Wasn't RJ Hampton the poster boy for waiting to see where he can get the most minutes and then goes to New Zealand. If Hampton doubts himself that much against college competition, he will play his pro career outside the US. I sincerely believe that Dotson would be making a mistake but it's his decision.

Good luck wherever,

Craig Alexander 3 years, 4 months ago

Unfortunately, I think he is gone too. I hope I am completely wrong though. Somebody has gotten in his ear about potentially getting guaranteed money in the 45th pick range. While that may be true, it doesn't take much to go from anticipated 42nd pick to not drafted at all.

Robert Brock 3 years, 4 months ago

If Devon stays in, KU may be a bubble team come March.

Stuart Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

I think Devon Dotson is getting word that he will get drafted in the 2nd Rd, and that’s enough for him - as it’s better news than either Grimes or Lawson recurved, and they have both officially said they will not be back.

It doesn’t make sense to make a grand announcement unless you’re announcing your departure.

The optimism of next season’s future with Silvio De Sousa’s eligibility has drained. To kids at this level, a scholarship means little compared to a six figure check and the chance to get your face in NBA 2k.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 4 months ago

Get your butt back to KU, Devon. You're not ready.

Jaston Archie 3 years, 4 months ago

Dotson is gone. Bill Self has destroyed this program, no one wants to go to KU, it's really sad to watch. Whoever thought Hampton would choose KU after Self has destroyed every guard that had legit NBA prospects were fooling themselves.

Bob Zielinski 3 years, 4 months ago

The comment that Bill Self has destroyed this program was written by a Chinese spam-bot right? Please let us know you have closed your credit cards and changed all of your online passwords. Your account has been compromised. Only thing that makes sense.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 4 months ago

What makes even less sense is that two morons gave him a thumbs-up. KU basketball underachieved significantly in 2018-19, but the program is far from destroyed - certainly not because of Bill Self.

Brian Wilson 3 years, 4 months ago

Well Bill sold his soul to Grimes and played him ahead of and instead of K.J. , Garrett and Lightfoot, in that order. Grimes was a Ghost waiting to appear. Worst coaching adjustments to Dok, or any injured missing player I've seen him make. hard to understand why he stuck with Grimes so long .....if you know what I mean.

Tom Jones 3 years, 4 months ago

KU did not "underachieve significantly".

After losing their top three players from that team to graduation or leaving early, they then lost their top three returning players as well. They filled the holes with a great transfer and some talented freshmen, but given the situation, they finished right where they should have - behind two talented, senior-laden teams in the league and then losing to the hottest team in the tournament.

Only whine and cheese KU fans have trouble accepting the truth about last year's team.

Eric Dawson 3 years, 4 months ago

Whatever or whoever, "Jatson Archie" is a troll. Just check out the posting history.

Craig Carson 3 years, 4 months ago

I can understand the lure of making $$ and being an NBA player, but sometimes its better to be patient..why settle for 2nd round , league minimum and a spot on the G league when he could come back and push his draft stock into the 1st round...I hope to see him back next season in a KU uniform...if he opts out, the PG position will be shaky at best..guess we will find out tomorrow

Brett McCabe 3 years, 4 months ago

Selfishly, I just want to watch him again this year as a Jayhawk. I feel like he would simply dominate. I've felt all along that he's gone but I hope that I am wrong.

One concern is that the Hampton announcement to go pro might also have an influence on DD's decision day. If the goal is to get paid in the league, everything else falls by the wayside.

As much as DD reminds me of Frank, Mr. Mason was undervalued and had to prove himself. Dotson was highly valued from the get-go, it's a different scenario. I think he's gone, gone, gone, but will say "hell yeah!" if he stays.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

It's great to see the insightful Brett back.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 4 months ago

well, this sounds negative. I hope he comes back. I think he could easily play himself into a top 15 pick next year.

Brian Wilson 3 years, 4 months ago

Maybe....but I can just hear the talk around the pizza tonight.......well, if you don't get drafted, you can always sign a contract to play in the UK just like Hampton.

Stupid idea though. The goal should be to be the best, play with the best, and make the most money. Going in the 1st round verses the second round is worth going to school all four years if it were guaranteed and gives you the best shot at NBA longevity. But then again, you take the chance of getting hurt.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 4 months ago

Random Thoughts:

1] I am kind of surprised that the decision is that tough for him and I mean that as a compliment to KU basketball and Jayhawk Nation. Devon is better than Hampton, has more credibility and experience. It should be a no-brainer for him to see what RJ is getting and figure that he is worth at least as much as that. At least he recognizes the unique nature of Kansas basketball.

2] Should he stay?..for the long term future of his career, Yes.

3] Will he stay?.....fame and fortune await so probably not.

4] Marcus, start working on that outside shot like your grandma, your dog and girl friend's lives all depend on it!

5] Maybe we should start Dok, Silvio, Big Mac and Mitch with Marcus and then just goon teams to death!!

6] If anyone has a recipe that makes broccoli edible, please share that with me. Better yet.....DON'T!!!

Gary Wirsig 3 years, 4 months ago

6 - I know you said don't, but here goes - simply wash it, eat it, and slowly learn to love it!

Jay Hawk 3 years, 4 months ago

keep adding cheese until you can barely see green.

Chad Smith 3 years, 4 months ago

Honestly what is going on. Since when is being a fringe draft pick a good reason to leave school? What are the agents telling these kids. That's what scares me. Devon could be a lottery pick next year with an all American season and an improved outside shot. Is your family in dire financial straits? It doesn't appear that way to me. I get it, get drafted get money. But if you play for 2 years and then get released what the hell kind of nba career is that exactly? Playing in the g league or overseas is not the ultimate goal and the players don't realize this is their fate unless they improve their game drastically.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

A few nuggets of reality for the Chicken Littles.

1) The NBA minimum for rookies is $897K. If you think Dotson is stupid to sign a 2 year deal for that, tell us your current earnings.

2) Hamptom signed with a New Zealand team in an Australia based league. Neither are in the UK.

3) HCBS did not play Grimes ahead of Garrett, KJ or Mitch. When Healthy, Garrett played max minutes. Grimes and Mitch do not play the same position. KJ did not have a position and certainly couldn't guard a SG/SF.

4) Players who do not play long careers in the NBA have other options. Ask Keith Langford, .

5) Staying in school longer does not guarantee higher draft status or longer NBA career. If NBA execs tell you you're good enough now, they might be right.

6) Nothing is certain except this, it's his life.

7) The existing, confirmed lineup already has enough talent to compete for a Big12 title and more. Agbaji is projected as high as a lottery pick, Garrett is a capable PG and the front court is loaded.

8) It's still May. Stuff will happen.

Craig Alexander 3 years, 4 months ago

Jay, I completely agree with your number 1. The bigger problem I see is if the kid is locked into wanting to be in the NBA rather than going overseas. If he only wants NBA then you can take that league minimum and then get the salary for the g league.

NEW YORK, April 17, 2018 – The NBA G League announced today the salaries for the 2018-19 season: players under NBA G League contracts will earn a base salary of $7,000 per month – or $35,000 – for the five-month regular season.

It isn't the first salary that matters when you are in the second round. It will be the next contract. He can make $1.8M in 2 years yes but after taxes, agent fees, and not to mention probably not being the best at money management at 19-20 years old, he could still have a rough go of it. $35K is not a great salary in years 3+. The options are there for him but he has to be focused on just getting paid for ball and not only the NBA. If NBA is dream, then $35K is a possible salary for him as well.

Chad Smith 3 years, 4 months ago

I don't disagree with most of these points. But the gray area is with "good enough" from NBA execs. What does that mean. I certainly see the arguments for not staying in school, but if you're a fringe pick, making 879,000 is probably not your ultimate goal. You probably want a 10 year career and to make several millions. Leaving early does not guarantee that. Leaving when you are ready to make an impact fairly soon ( within a year or two so you can play your way to a lucrative deal) versus just signing a two year deal and being shipped off after that, I don't see the great value in that either. But once again, it depends on the vision you have for yourself.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Playing basketball and making $897K

Playing basketball and making 0.

You decide which is better, from any perspective.

Micky Baker 3 years, 4 months ago

Jay, here's why it might be stupid, and doesn't matter what you or I earn. If he stays at KU for 1 or 2 more years and then can sign for the rookie max of $3 million a year...instead of risk flopping out of the league after a season or 2 with no degree.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 4 months ago

I say he comes back...just sheer intuition based on no available inside info.......heart over the head comment.

Dwayne Mudd 3 years, 4 months ago

Hopefully the late decision is just because he received late information and is just doing his due diligence and using as much time as he has to process. We will survive and be a damn good team next year without him. But with him our NC chances go WAY up!!! One more year DD!!!!!

Lawrence McGlinn 3 years, 4 months ago

Mason and Graham are recent examples of the value of staying and maturing at KU. Neither is setting the world on fire in the NBA, but they both got contracts. With the exception of Embid KU's OADs have not fared well. Wiggins got paid based on potential, but he hasn't lived up to it yet. And Dotson is nowhere near Wiggins or Embid.

Dirk Medema 3 years, 4 months ago

So many negative comments just 2 years after Svi waited the same length of time to come back. So much presumption. So sad.

Brian Skelly 3 years, 4 months ago

I don't presume one way or the other at this point. A good sophomore year probably ensures him being a 1st round pick though, and that IS the talk from the scouts and NBA talent folks. I won't begrudge either way. No one other than my parents had an opinion about me coming out of school. We shouldn't be to crazy either way.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 4 months ago

anyone know when this announcement is coming? I keep checking here, nada.

Layne Pierce 3 years, 4 months ago

Interesting to wonder whether last year truly deflated Dotson and Grimes. No one is blaming them, really, but yet they probably feel like they let KU down. It can't be Coach Self because he gave them every chance to succeed.


Jeff Coffman 3 years, 4 months ago

I inadvertently were my lucky KU socks when we got the surprise announcement for SDS...I put on some KU socks, hopefully that will aid the crystal ball projections.

Danny Hernandez 3 years, 4 months ago

It's 4 PM here on the east coast, anyone have an idea when Devin will announce? Does he need another pizza before he announces?

Steve Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

He is gone. Sound the trumpets, let the world know.

Ryan Mullen 3 years, 4 months ago

If he comes back I will go streaking down Mass st!

Stuart Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

Isaac McBride is as anxious as we are to know Dotson’s decision.

Dwayne Mudd 3 years, 4 months ago

WTF?? I guess there is technically about 7-1/2 hours left in Wednesday!!

Mike Greer 3 years, 4 months ago

When this all started I thought he was just looking for feedback, or at least that's what he said. Obviously the feedback was better than he expected. Seems like it's coming down to a coin flip, only meaning it's 50/50 at this point. It seems these young men all have a little "drama queen" in them, the way they make announcements.

Matt Gauntt 3 years, 4 months ago

Wow, reading through some of the comments I am convinced that 1/2 of the readers are either scared old women or trolls from Kentucky.

Buck up, worried little birdies. The sky isn't falling.

Jeff Kallmeyer 3 years, 4 months ago

Wasn't there a new clause this season where, as long as you hired an NCAA-approved agent and didn't get drafted, you still had the option of returning? Maybe I'm just wishful dreaming...

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 4 months ago

There was but how can you recruit not knowing who's coming back so late in the process.

Never heard anything official.

Richard Benson 3 years, 4 months ago

Quentin Grimes will withdraw his name from the NBA draft and return to Kansas for his sophomore season, Evan Daniels of 247Sports first reported. He averaged 8.4 points and started in all 36 games for the Jayhawks as a freshman.

Joining Grimes will be his backcourt running mate, Devon Dotson. The 6'2" guard announced his decision to withdraw from the draft and return to Kansas via Twitter. Like Grimes, he started all 36 games last season and put up 12.3 points, 3.7 rebounds and 3.5 assists per game.

Dane Pratt 3 years, 4 months ago

Based on what Devon tweeted it sounds like he's returning to Lawrence.

Stuart Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

It’s official....


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