Saturday, January 5, 2019

Quick recap: No. 5 Kansas suffers 77-60 loss to Iowa State for first Big 12 defeat

Iowa State guard Nick Weiler-Babb (1) drives to the basket past Kansas guard Devon Dotson (11) during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game, Saturday, Jan. 5, 2019, in Ames, Iowa.

Iowa State guard Nick Weiler-Babb (1) drives to the basket past Kansas guard Devon Dotson (11) during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game, Saturday, Jan. 5, 2019, in Ames, Iowa.


Winning inside a hostile Hilton Coliseum is no easy task.

No. 5 Kansas did itself no favors, though, during Saturday’s 77-60 loss to Iowa State. The Jayhawks struggled to take care of the ball on the offensive end, and they gave up to many open looks on the defensive side as well.

The unranked Cyclones cruised to a victory to hand the defending conference champions their first loss of Big 12 play.

KU finished with a season-high 24 turnovers, posting a 33.3 turnover rate in the lopsided defeat. Iowa State connected on 13 of its 25 attempts from beyond the arc, and were able to maintain a double-digit advantage during the final 10 minutes of the contest.

For Kansas, the bad vibes began a little over an hour before tipoff. Starting center Udoka Azubuike was ruled out for the game against ISU with a wrist injury that he sustained during practice.

In a losing effort, freshman Quentin Grimes led the team with 19 points on 7-of-15 shooting. Dedric Lawson was the only other Jayhawk to finish in double figures, posting 13 points on a 5-for-11 effort.

Here’s a quick look back at some of the action:

• The game turned when: Iowa State hit back-to-back triples midway through the second half.

Despite a multitude of turnovers by Kansas, ISU just couldn’t seem to put away the defending champs. That was until the Cyclones buried consecutive 3-pointers midway through the second half to give the Jayhawks their largest deficit of the season at the time.

Tyrese Haliburton drilled a 3-pointer with 10:04 left in the game to give Iowa State a double-digit lead. Lindell Wigginton then knocked down a triple on the next possession, stretching the advantage to 13 points. It proved to be the decisive blow to bury Kansas.

• Offensive highlight: Freshman Quentin Grimes was the team’s most impactful player for much of the afternoon.

Late in the first half, though, Grimes had a stretch where he scored 11 consecutive points for Kansas to keep the visitors in the game. Grimes was finding a way to put the ball through the net in a variety of ways, as he filled the lane correctly on fastbreaks and he connected on spot-up 3-pointers as well.

It marked the third straight game that Grimes had scored at least 14 points, which included two times against Big 12 foes.

• Key stat: The Jayhawks struggled to take care of the rock against the Cyclones, especially in the first half.

Kansas turned the ball over on 40 percent of its possessions in the first half, meaning the visitors coughed the ball up 14 times on 35 possessions. It was one of the reasons that Kansas struggled to get much going on the offensive end early on.

As a result, the four-point deficit at the intermission was a minor miracle for the Jayhawks.

•Up next: Kansas plays host to TCU at at 8 p.m. Wednesday.


John Kelley 3 years, 11 months ago

Over ranked at #1 and over ranked at #5.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 11 months ago

The score was 78-60, not 77-60.

Not that it matters much. That second half was a truly pathetic defensive effort by the Jayhawks. Just god-awful. Iowa State may be underrated and unheralded, and Kansas might have been without Udoka again; but even so, there is no reason ISU should ever - and I mean EVER - be 20 points better than KU.

I have always hated Iowa State - their cocky players and their ignorant, racist, white trash fans - and I hate them even more after today. Hope those F@@#tards enjoy this win, because it's as close to winning a championship as they will ever get. F@@# Iowa State. Seriously. F@@#ing f@@# them!

Tony Bandle 3 years, 11 months ago

Bryce,,don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. :}. That's OK, my friend, I have a brother and a sister-in-law who are Cyclones so i got a s##t storm headed my way!

Buck Bukaty 3 years, 11 months ago

When does Football start??

(I always wondered what it would be like to say that, never thought I would have to)


Bryce Landon 3 years, 11 months ago

The Iowa Hawkeyes' football season begins August 31 against Miami-Ohio.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 11 months ago

wow, I missed the game, glad I did. 24 turnovers!?!? Well, hopefully Dok is back for our next game. Good to see Grimes coming on strong.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 11 months ago

Well, my plan has worked so far.....watched the OU game live, Taped the ISU game, deleted it sight unseen and saved a whole bunch of brain cells. Actually I had this game down as a loss but I thought it would be a nail biter not an ass kicker!!!

Layne Pierce 3 years, 11 months ago

We will get better, or we will not win the conference. We are right now, a team that can only win with teams that cannot shoot 3s,, and that don't play very good interior defense. Just back off of us on defense, and make us drive, or shoot 3s, we are a terrible half-court team, and maybe Lawson is best passer ever, but rest of the team is terrible. Have you all noticed that we cannot run any of time-out plays that Coach Self is known for. Have you seen a single back-door really work. Our offense now, is get the ball to Lawson, and let him go 1 on 3, or to Vick, and let him jack a nearly impossible shot. Fact is we do not break teams down, offensively or defensively.

We do not play good team offense or defense.

We will get better or die.


Steve Zimmerman 3 years, 11 months ago

We wont' get better until unless coaching staff address players individual skills development. The staff would rather stick to centuries old offense strategy instead of developing players - look at how different our players compared to the Clones. Everyone of them shows sound individual skills, quick reaction and decision making. NBA ready.

Jack Hoff 3 years, 11 months ago

I'm willing to bet Kansas gets more guys drafted to the NBA than iowa State from these teams.

Jeff Foster 3 years, 11 months ago

I'm not so sure about that. ISU probably has 4 players from that team that will play in the league. MAYBE, KU has 1 or 2 in Grimes and Lawson. Dok is not an NBA player and will either be back next year for his Sr. year or leave and play in the G league or Europe. His game is horrible for the NBA and he has no stamina. Vick is too erratic and too poor ball control. Dotson...possibly an NBA player in 3 yrs but needs a ton of skill improvement. I still can't figure out why ALL the media has built Garrett up so much as this defensive savant. He's good, but he can't consistently stop a team's #1 scorer and his offensive liability is as bad or worse as Dok's liability being on the floor at the end of a close game. I love KU basketball so much but this teams is so painful to watch. Praying they miraculously come together and play more like the Mich State game than ISU the rest of the season or it could get embarrassing.

Allin Herring 3 years, 11 months ago

It is hard to play good team Offense when one of the 5 players is a flat tire, a major liability on the floor and his name is Marcus Garrett, and for some reason Self has him playing 28 or more minutes a game. I know what folks will say "but he plays great defense". Does he? Not what I saw yesterday when multiple times his man blew right by him on the way to the goal. He is Ok on defense and the worst offensive liability we have had on the floor in many years and Self plays the guy more than 28 minutes a game! It is a miracle when his 3 point shot hits the rim. And to think about it, he practiced all summer on that shot! It is obvious Self believed the media when they said that he had improved!

Shannon Gustafson 3 years, 11 months ago

We've got multiple guards who are no better or worse than him on offense statistically this year. Granted the others have a better chance of improving as they have a history of not being as bad as they are but for now, if you trade him for one of the others, you just get similar offense and worse defense.

Allin Herring 3 years, 11 months ago

No only slightly worst defense and a much greater upside on Offense. Both KJ and Moore have a history of averaging double digit scoring which would be way more than Garrett's average game production. Right now we need scoring ability, and no one guards Garrett because they knew he will probably pass the ball and if he shoots it will miss. So not what you get is 5 guys guarding 4 and one of those has been a really miss for the most part in Grimes and who knows what Vick will do. We need to balance it up a bit by playing someone who has history scoring so it is a 5 on 5 game. Other than never guarding the three ( a real Self coaching philosophy) it was our turnovers and lack of an offense not our defense that lost this game. It may be ok to play Garrett but no where close to 28 or more minutes in a game!

Jeremy Bornman 3 years, 11 months ago

The score was in fact 77-60... not 78

Bad day and they couldn’t miss... on to the next

Dave Miller 3 years, 11 months ago

Lost by 17 -- felt like 37 from the flow of the game. When is this team gonna pull together instead of everyone pulling when they feel like it? It feels like it's gonna be a long season...

Bryce Landon 3 years, 11 months ago

Maybe today will be the wakeup call they need to start pulling together.

Dane Pratt 3 years, 11 months ago

There are teams in the B12 who if they could play everyone with the same intensity with which they play us at their home could actually contend for a conference title. Like Iowa State, West Virginia, Oklahoma.

Jaston Archie 3 years, 11 months ago

This is literally the dumbest team I’ve ever seen. The individual players are low IQ players and always look like they have no idea wth is going on. Bill Self needs to be on the hotseat, there hasn’t been a fun team to watch in many years. They all turn the ball over and make dumb plays

Jack Hoff 3 years, 11 months ago

Hard to believe you typed that whole thing. Looked it over and thought "yeah this makes sense, I'll post this." Bill Self on the hotseat? That's ridiculous. Are you sure you actually watch the games? You couldn't possible be serious in saying there hasn't been a fun team in many years. Going to the final four last year was pretty fun. But whatever. #dumbfanbase

Steve Zimmerman 3 years, 11 months ago

I agree, last year's team was very fun to watch. Mason, 'Tae, Svi.. Are you kidding? That's when coach Self agreed we had to launch 3s.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 11 months ago

Last year's team was fun to watch, but not always. Not when they were losing three home games in one season and getting swept by bottom-tier Oklahoma State. But they were fun when they got a 3-game sweep of West Virginia, when Devonte had back-to-back 35-point games, when they wore red uniforms against Texas, and when Malik Newman put the team on his back and beat Duke to get us to San Antonio.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 11 months ago

Dude, Self was in a Final Four one season ago. No way he should be on the hot seat.

Shannon Gustafson 3 years, 11 months ago

You know you've gone too negative when Bryce doesn't agree with you!

Steve Zimmerman 3 years, 11 months ago

Lawson: is the only one who has court vision (a nice pass to Garrett). Vick still can't pass. Quick ball movement proven to be better than high-low. Pick and rolls are very well executed by the Clones. Our stagnant offense is exposed. Grimes: man in charge, sure good to see him actively scoring, but has to be careful not to charge. Broken fastbreak, we still don't know how to finish even in a 3 on 1 situation..Rebounding doesn't always win games. Taste our own medicine: their defense wears us out with our stagnant offense. Their transfers >> our transfers. TOs > Assists. I've been saying this all along, our coaching staff needs to address our offense strategy. Even my 12 yr old son knows that. Our team is standing around, or passing to a standing player. The clones pass to cutting or rolling players. But then again, it's hard to win us games with no 3pt shooters. Gosh, I miss Svi & 'Tae..!!

Jerry Walker 3 years, 11 months ago

If Vick has any conscience he'll be the one losing the most sleep after this loss.

The only value he's demonstrated this season is the occasional game where he shoots lights out from downtown. That makes him extremely one dimensional...poor defender, poor rebounder, does little for the flow of the offense and is a turnover machine.

For the life of me I can't look at Vick's performance without thinking of J.R. Giddens.

Steve Zimmerman 3 years, 11 months ago

I'd call those 3pt shots lucky shots. The way Vick shoots, it's not a good form.

Allin Herring 3 years, 11 months ago

I am not sure why the Iowa State fans are called racists? I sure am tired that when someone disagrees with with anyone theese days the first thing that comes out of their mouth is that someone is racists! Maybe in Iowa States case is it because their,players were way better than ours? When you rely on filling your team with transfers and only one of them is a true starter instead of high level high school recruits then you get a loss like we saw today. Maybe when you continue to recruit players with issues like DeSousa you get losses like we saw today. Maybe when we continue to play a player with the talent level of Garrett who could not hit the ocean with a basketball standing on the edge of the beach and play that guy over 28 minutes a game you get a loss like we saw today. Maybe if Dok could play a full thirty minutes without being hurt or on the bench with fouls our lack of free throw ability and thus causes us to play Garrett instead you get a loss like,we saw today. What ever the reason BRYCE it was not because the players or the fans at Iowa State were racists! It is because our playes continue to play like crap. Heck our coaching staff can not even make sure we only play 5 players in a game at a time.

Steve Zimmerman 3 years, 11 months ago

I dont' think playing Dok would make any difference today. But I agree with the rest of your post. ;)

Dane Pratt 3 years, 11 months ago

Not condoning, condemning or defending his remarks but I believe he may have been referencing the incident several years ago when EJ lit up the scoreboard and threw down a monster slam as the clock expired. Some fans didn't like that and EJ was on the receiving end of some racial slurs.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 11 months ago

Exactly. ISU fans threw things at Elijah Johnson and his teammates and hit him up with the N-word and other racist obscenities on Twitter. I stand by my comments that ISU fans are ignorant racist white trash, and I resent when the talking heads at ESPN gush about how great ISU fans are. Brent Musberger was the worst about it; I am so glad he retired.

F@@# Iowa State!

Mallory Briggans 3 years, 11 months ago

Didn't we have this conversation last year ………...every loss was pretty much a blowout loss...but we went to the final 4. I hate losing as much as any Jayhawk fan but I wasn't the least bit upset with this loss …..Players have to play better ...and Self has to coach better. …..The talent is there …… its the coaches job to bring it out of them...…..

Bj Cassady 3 years, 11 months ago

Doak would not have made a difference. What bothers me is the two losses we were massively out scored the second half 49 vs ASU 41 vs ISU. Is it effort, did we quit? No excuses allowed. The team needs to be tougher. Suck it up boys, time to man up.

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