Tuesday, February 5, 2019

Jayhawks suffer 74-67 loss to Wildcats, snapping 8-game win streak in Sunflower Showdown

Kansas forward Dedric Lawson (1) walks off the court as KSU fans celebrate the Wildcats' 74-67 win over the Jayhawks on Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2019 at Bramlage Coliseum.

Kansas forward Dedric Lawson (1) walks off the court as KSU fans celebrate the Wildcats' 74-67 win over the Jayhawks on Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2019 at Bramlage Coliseum.


Manhattan — It took four years for the Kansas State senior class to grab a win over in-state rival Kansas. But now that they have, the Wildcats have something much more valuable in their possession — a 2-game lead over the Jayhawks in the loss column in the Big 12 standings.

That reality came to light Tuesday night inside wild and rocking Bramlage Coliseum, where the Wildcats raced out to a fast start, slipped in the mud in the middle and then ran away from the 13th-ranked Jayhawks in the second half, 74-67, behind a 44-34 second-half advantage.

Kansas (17-6 overall, 6-4 Big 12) is now just 1-6 in true road games this season and still has four games away from home on its schedule before the end of the regular season.

Although the Wildcats controlled the entire second half, it was not until Xavier Sneed (14 points on 3-of-6 from 3-point range) drained a clutch 3 from the corner that K-State could breathe easy.

Sneed’s bucket, with 1:09 to play, put the Wildcats back up by 6 after Kansas had cut the lead to a single possession and a Cartier Diarra steal and windmill slam dunk — on KU’s 22nd turnover of the night — proved to be the exclamation point on a huge effort by the home team.

"Their defense was so much better than our offense it was comical," KU coach Bill Self said.

Fans rejoiced. Ushers braced for a court-storming, which came with fury. And the building affectionately known to locals as the Octagon of Doom again had that feel for the Jayhawks, who have lost in Bramlage just five times in 31 tries.

In what was a physical battle littered with Kansas turnovers (23) and key Kansas State transition points, the Jayhawks stayed tight and trailed by just 2 — 58-56 — with just under 5 minutes to play.

But K-State responded to a layup by Dedric Lawson (18 points, 9 rebounds) at 4:44 with 5 quick points to build a 63-56 lead with 3:52 to play. That lead grew to 8 when Wade hit one of two of free throws — K-State made just 14 of 24 from the line on the night — and the Jayhawks could not find the juice for one final push.

"Coach just said, 'Those guys played hard tonight. They outplayed us. They stuck together and came out with the win,'" Moore said after the loss.

In many ways, the Jayhawks lost this one in the first half, both by suffering through a brutal start and by not building a bigger lead by halftime when they had the chance.

After winning the tip, the Jayhawks gave Bramlage Coliseum the fuel it needed to go nuts when freshman guard Ochai Agbaji (6 points on 3-of-7 shooting) lost track of the sideline on KU’s first possession and stepped out of bounds.

That led to a 3-pointer by KSU senior Kamau Stokes, who quickly made it 5-0 K-State with a steal and layup on KU’s next possession.

"You've got to give those guys credit," Lawson said. "They played great defense."

Even when KU made a play, K-State benefited. After the Jayhawks had settled in a bit and cut the KSU lead to 10-6, Devon Dotson’s block of a Stokes 3-pointer attempt made its way into the hands of Sneed (14 points, 3 3-pointers), who calmly laid it in for a 12-6 lead.

On the very next possession, the Jayhawks turned it over for the third time and Barry Brown Jr. (18 points in 40 minutes), put the Wildcats up 14-6 with a fastbreak layup.

Shortly after the Jayhawks’ found themselves in that big hole, Self inserted Mitch Lightfoot and Charlie Moore into the game and switched to a 2-3 zone on defense.

Sneed drained a 3-pointer on the Jayhawks’ first possession of zone to put KU up 17-8, but, from there, the Wildcats struggled to find ways to attack it and KU crawled back to within 19-16 at the 11:45 mark of the first half.

“Kansas is looking like Syracuse in this 2-3 zone,” ESPN analyst and former NBA head coach Stan Van Gundy said during Tuesday’s broadcast.

Seven minutes after KU got back into it, the Jayhawks took their first lead of the game — 29-26 — on one of 2 first-half 3-pointers from reserve guard Moore.

The Jayhawks used a 15-1 run to claim the lead and led by as many as 5 late in the first half before taking a 33-30 lead to the locker room. Kansas State made just 1 of its final 14 shots of the half and turned it over 8 times against that KU zone.

"That 2-3 zone kind of slowed those guys down and in the second half they made some adjustments and made us go back to man," Lawson said. "They just made shots."

One of the biggest reasons the Jayhawks had the lead at the break was their work on the offensive glass. The Jayhawks entered Tuesday averaging just 10 offensive rebounds per game and grabbed 8 in the first half alone. Three of those came from Lightfoot, who finished the half with 6 points and 5 rebounds to pace Kansas, both on the stat sheet and in the hustle department.

Kansas finished with just 11 offensive rebounds for the game.

Four different Jayhawks had 6 points at the break and Lawson led the way with 7, despite his 1-of-6 shooting effort in the first 20 minutes.

Senior Lagerald Vick, who started the 2018-19 season with such promise only to fall into a mighty slump of late, played just 4 minutes in the first half, did not start the second half and finished with 7 points on 2-of-5 shooting in 19 minutes for the game.

Asked after Tuesday's loss if Vick's lack of production was the reason for his benching both in the first half and to start the second, Self said simply, "No. There (were) other reasons."

Whatever momentum the Jayhawks had wrestled away from the Wildcats in the final minutes of the first half, quickly disappeared to start the second.

Quentin Grimes’ opened the half with a traveling violation and Kansas State responded with a 13-5 run that included 7 straight points from Brown to rebuild a 43-38 lead with 14:29 to play.

With the Jayhawks still struggling to get quality possessions on offense, the Wildcats continued to build their lead. A 3-pointer from Sneed from in front of the KSU bench pushed the K-State lead to 47-40 with 12:30 to play and another 3-pointer from Cartier Diarra, 30 seconds later, pushed the KSU lead to 50-42.

The Wildcats (17-5, 7-2) hit 8 their first 18 3-pointers in this one (10 of 24 on the night) and all of their makes from distance carried big momentum with them.

Beyond that, Kansas, which made 4-of-10 from 3-point range in the first half, missed its first 6 triples in the second half as what seemed like a bit of fool’s gold from Charlie Moore (8 points, 3-of-5) and Quentin Grimes (6, 2-4) in the first 20 minutes turned into gravel in the decisive second half.

The second half also featured a change in philosophy for the Wildcats, who moved star forward Dean Wade — just 1 of 6 in the first half — closer to the rim in the second, forcing Dedric Lawson to guard him in the post.

Wade finished the game with 12 points, 9 rebounds and 5 assists, with all but 2 of his points coming in the second half.

Kansas returns to action at 11 a.m. Saturday, back at Allen Fieldhouse, where it will welcome Oklahoma State to town before going back out on the road for two of its next three games, at TCU and at Texas Tech.

"No. We ain't even worried about that," Lawson said. "We're just worried about getting better. We're just worried about winning the game Saturday. Take it one game at a time."


Brian Wilson 3 years, 4 months ago

I hate to say it but we will continue to lose these road games with the lineup we are starting. If we are going to lose a few games I wish we would just go ahead and start McCormack at center alongside Lawson and give him 4 or 5 games to develop. Let McCormack rebound, pick up loose junk, and learn to work from 4 feet in while letting Derek go back to being a PF.

Also, KJ did have a few more minutes alongside his brother. Maybe the brothers working on the same wave length can make a few things click. IMO, this needs to continue. KJ didn't do much but he also didn't hurt us.

Needless to's very frustrating watching this team.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

It's amazing how stupid some fans are. It must be frustrating watching a game that you don't understand.

Brian Wilson 3 years, 4 months ago

McCormack didn't even play. Seriously!? Was he hurt or something?

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

See reply to your brethren above. Who would Mac guard on KSU?

Brian Wilson 3 years, 4 months ago

Seriously's amazing how stupid fans are watching a game that you can't imagine being different if the game plan were changed up. So your saying that McCormack can't play zone? Are you saying HCBS can't devise a defense that McCormack could have been successful in? When we stink so bad we can't cover man to man, turn the ball over 23 times, give up 11 offensive rebounds, then maybe we should change it up. Maybe go zone, slow it down, work on reducing turnover, reducing errors, work on getting the ball inside and improve the offense. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity!

So as I said it's time we try something different and switch it up, go bigger, Start McCormack, Lawson, Vick, Agbaji, and Dotson. Bring in KJ at the 3 and bench and rotate the others.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

All that to get a player in who hasn't shown potential to change the game at either end?

News flash! They have actual practices to get a feel for things that might work. Maybe that's why your genius ideas aren't being implemented?

Tony Bandle 3 years, 4 months ago

Let's see...6-4 with 4 home and 4 away. Sweep at home, go 2 and 2 [beat Okie State and Okie] end up 12 - 6. [I knew that horrible loss to WV would come back to haunt us].

Nope, sorry, that will end the streak. I think that's the best we can hope for plus making the NCAA, winning 25 games, and getting to the Sweet Sixteen since we are undefeated on neutral courts. Yes, this is the absolute ceiling for this team.

If the NCAA suspended Silvio essentially two full,seasons for $2500, what do you think they will do to KU?

It is totally within the realm of possibility that KU could forfeit all games Silvio played in, be forced to vacate the Conference Championship, the NCAA Streak and the Final Four, while be banned from post season play in 2020 thus losing Matt Hurt, lose scholarships, be restricted on recruiting and pay a $1,000,000 fine.

Then again, I could be wrong.

Steve Zimmerman 3 years, 4 months ago

I can accept our loss, but, NEVER MIND!!!!!

Stuart Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

So much for any lessons learned after the TTech home rallying win...the most aggressive team will win the Big XII this year, and with the exception of the TTech win, we are FAR from that. This team continues to play uncharacteristicslly soft and passive.

A couple things I noticed: - Our two walk ins played more minutes than McCormack. - Grimes and Dotson complained an awful lot, and responded like the Freshmen they are

Bj Cassady 3 years, 4 months ago

As I have mentioned all year: inconsistent guard play, the need to develop the bench. The season is over as far as the big 12 is over so might as well play McCormack get him ready for next year. Far too many turnovers we are a turnover machine. Good job C Moore, and Lightfoot but where is Vick on defense, where was Grimes. Expect some transfers due to not playing, expect even a worse year next year because D Lawson will be gone and we have not developed an inside player.

Bee Bee 3 years, 4 months ago

Beat Tennessee and MSU and lose to a garbage K S U team. KU's 2nd team should beat KSU by 15. Unacceptable. When is the Spring Game?

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

It's amazing how stupid some fans are....Notice anything different vs MSU and TN? Oh!! Two starters from those games are out!!

Brian Skelly 3 years, 4 months ago

Look, this team just isnt very good (by KU standards).    Injuries and youth are primary drivers of this.    It also appears that Self has really had trouble getting some of these guys motivated to the levels needed to steady their focus.

Vick is the only senior of consequence and he's no leader.    Unfortunately that shows.    Whereas often Self has guys tho exude leadership in those positions, this team has no one really.   Dotson APPEARS like he could be come that guy,  he's just not there yet.

Dane Pratt 3 years, 4 months ago

One loss in four years, I can handle that. Let's start another 8 game win streak over the kittens.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

To the geniuses who lament that McCormack didn't play...who would he guard? Was his huge opportunity to change the game in shutting down Mawien and Stockard? In 23 mins total they had 5 points and 3 rebounds combined!!! The Jayhawks WON the rebounding battle.

What would Mac add? Surely nobody is clueless enough to think he could guard Wade...who BTW had only 12....

The Jayhawks didn't look good last night. The fans here look worse.

Justin Kruse 3 years, 4 months ago

Maybe some energy and effort. I agree about his match-up, and he wasn't going to put up big offensive numbers, but he always brings some energy.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Energy? That's the go to comment of the lost.... Mitch didn't bring "energy"? KJ didn't?

What exactly would energy have done to reduce the 23 turnovers? How would "energy" from a center have kept KSU from knocking down 3's? Would more "energy" have kept KSU off the FT line?

Your post makes my point about clueless fans....thanks.

Justin Kruse 3 years, 4 months ago

Those guys did bring energy, they always do! I always hope that it sparks the rest of the guys on the floor is what I was thinking.

Hey, thanks for your positive feedback, though. I'm really trying hard to not be a clueless fan but I'm not there yet. I'll try harder!

David Kemp 3 years, 4 months ago

Have to agree. 23 tos were the result trying too hard to make the impossible play

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 4 months ago

Would have liked to have seen some zone against KState. Self/KU played a tricky 1-3-1 in the past few seasons.

But I'm not a coach. Self doesn't need my help.

Glen Miller 3 years, 4 months ago

Big bad computer warrior Jay, calling people on the internet stupid, dumb and ignorant......... when infact YOU are the one with less than a clue Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

If you're so smart...pick up one of the points that your genius buddies made and support it!

No? Can't? Does that mean that their point was stupid? Or that you are?

Glen Miller 3 years, 4 months ago

I think the thought of getting McCormack some minutes is a valid one. At this point in the season it is obvious that even Self himself is just working towards getting better. Isn't letting some inexperienced players with potential play through some tough moments a good way to get better? Who cares who he would guard, guarding wasn't our problem last night. Scoring was and just like Doke, I think we could work to get it into McCormack, be it at a smaller clip and not as centered as it was with him. I mean I've watched Charlie Moore dribble around and jack up half court shots enough. I've watched Grimes completely disappear enough. I've watched Vick toss the ball into the 3rd row enough times. I've watched K.J. Lawson look like he thinks he's our best player enough. Why in the world would we NOT give McCormack some more minutes? It's not like he'll do any worse than the rest of the guys. We can't get much worse than 24 turnovers and zero f's to give.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Your base argument seems to be "At this point in the season it is obvious that even Self himself is just working towards getting better."

If you think Coach Self is more concerned with anything other than winning each and every game, you really should stop commenting here.

Glen Miller 3 years, 4 months ago

Considering that Self and his players have all mentioned that perspective.... yeah, that's where I am at. Isn't improvement an every year thing? Or are you just that dumb and self centered that you can't even believe what the actual people that matter are telling us. Your opinion means diddly to me, I just get tired of you being a jerk on here to everyone that doesn't stroke your ego. You've got to be one of the most ignorant and egotistical computer warriors I've ever ran into. How this site hasn't just told you to get lost and banned you is beyond me. Nobody wants you on here, don't you get that? At no point in your pointless and idiotic ramblings do you do anything but argue and contradict yourself. Get a life, man.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

It's so easy to help you make a fool of yourself....

Glen Miller 3 years, 4 months ago

You're the only fool I see....... Go back to listening to your own voice recordings and staring at yourself in the mirror, we all know you're THAT full of yourself

Brian Wilson 3 years, 4 months ago

It just means you have a big mouth Jay and everyone else figures your not worth it!

DaNeille Dani Davis 3 years, 4 months ago

Worst Coach Self team ever. Hope you guys are proud of yourselves. You play like you don't care. No worries! You will always be remembered as the crappy team that lost the streak! Thanks.

David Kemp 3 years, 4 months ago

Considering 23 turnovers, we played really pretty well. Reduce that to avg 13 and this was a whole different game. We need to eliminate trying to make the highlight reel play and stick with fundamentals.

Stuart Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

Jay Scott - who would guard McCormack for KSU when he’s in with D. Lawson? That question goes both ways. Give the young man an opportunity.

The same offensive struggles re-appeared. When we don’t hit from 3, Lawson gets overwhelmed. Dotson can penetrate really well, but he struggles to finish to the point where he goes up without an outlet to pass to. Dedric Lawson excels when he is paired with a second “big”, be it McCormack/K.J. or even Lightfoot.

I don’t mind losses, unless we fold. It’s frustrating to watch our youth fold out of winning hands under pressure on the road.

Justin Kruse 3 years, 4 months ago

Agreed. Could have taken a bit of focus off of Dedric but who knows.

The turnovers were just ridiculous!

Would have been nice to have Marcus last night. Hope he's back soon.

Allin Herring 3 years, 4 months ago

Oh yea I would have loved to watch a bunch of Marcus Bricks being thrown up! But then he could have continued his 2-13 from the field streak! That is just what we needed! We can not score anyway but at least with Marcus on the bench the other team has to guard 5 players instead of 4 and makes it harder to double team Lawson. Oh yea and I love watching Marcus being pushed under the basket as the other teams 4 posts up on him. I hope Marcus gets well but just do not rush it ok!

Justin Kruse 3 years, 4 months ago

Guess I was thinking of him driving to the basket, not his 3 point performance, but point well taken. Thanks for your positive feedback!

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Guard Mac? Why bother? He's shown no propensity to score. Would you be feeding him instead of Lawson? KSU could guard him with anyone.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

...because I think Lawson deserves more touches than Mac? Because I think that Mac having shown no offensive touch is a reason to leave another player on the floor?

Barry Weiss 3 years, 4 months ago I agree with your post, just wanted to call someone a Poltrus Diminutae, the name you came up with. Figured you would not mind. Hey, so what are your thoughts on all the fans that use to whine about us focusing on winning the B-12 and they would prefer we ditch that emphasis and focus on winning a NC? I never quite understood how losing our own conference would help win a NC. I guess this may be the year to see if that theory works.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

I'm inclined to just try to win each game one at a time....

Armen Kurdian 3 years, 4 months ago

I say to myself how frustrating and maddening it is to watch this team, then remind myself that three of our starters did not play yesterday for various reasons. That's challenging. Vick's play is definitely frustrating, he's so slow on defense, but had some great assists under the basket last night.

We're very much used to winning and getting our way. It was only a matter of time until we get a season like this. We the fans also need to dig down and really support this team. That's just how it is right now. We lack confidence on the road, especially from outside, and the team allows itself to get flustered very easily. Our defense really wasn't that bad, actually thought it was pretty good, we just kept giving up the ball on offense.

Let's be as supportive as we can here, they really need it.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 4 months ago

Interesting.... with a win against Okie State Saturday in Allen, the Hawks will be 18 - 6. There are probably 100 teams that would kill for that kind of record. I understand that the bar for Kansas is always set at the highest point....I get it.

Still, maybe a season like this one is shaping up to be can have some long range benefits. Hopefully, it will be motivation for the team to claw back to the highest level of play. No one is saying anything but I feel that breaking the consecutive title streak last season may have instilled a sense of complacency and entitlement.

Come on, every once in awhile the breaks just don't go your way and we were overdue. Vick will graduate, the Silvio clouded issue is unfortunately resolved [you can forget the appeal with the NCAA - no way], Grimes may just transfer and virtually everyone else will back sadder but wiser.

Look on the bright side....we won't have the onus of a number one seed getting knocked out of the tourney early this year!

Jason Venable 3 years, 4 months ago

If McCormack doesn't see playing time he may leave as well.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Please list all the KU bigs who saw major minutes as freshmen and made a big impact....

The stupidity must be contagious.....

David McNickle 3 years, 4 months ago

Embid? Season was basically over once he was done for the year.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 4 months ago

Cole Aldrich??.....I think he was a freshman and I don't know if he had major minutes but he sure had an impact on North Carolina!!

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Cole averaged 1.5 min more than Mac has so far.

Jason Venable 3 years, 4 months ago

Then tells us genius, miserable SOB that you are Jay, who is going to save us next year when it comes down to the bigs we play? Always living in the past. You truly are a miserable person that feels better about himself for always putting down other people. Is Dok going to stick around? He's a medical liability now. Is Silvo? Is Mitch? I think it's best that Self play McCormack from here on out. KU doesn't have anymore options in regards to our limited bigs. But, I'm sure you have all the answers and you'd like to believe.

Yes, I caught your contagious stupidity.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

It's brave of you to admit your stupidity.

Will Dok, Dedric,KJ, Mitch, McCormack and Hurt (experts believe he's KU bound) be enough front court players? You're a doctor? Is that how you've decided Dok's future? Mitch will leave? Perhaps the stupidest comment ever made her (Joe Ross thanks you)

Here's a little advice. If having your ideas assessed on their merit bothers you, don't post them on a public forum.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 4 months ago

KU offered Hurt's sister a scholly for the woman's team. Kentucky is accusing us of dirty tactics.

Freddie Garza 3 years, 4 months ago

A young, small-ish team that can't shoot and passes a lot to the other team. Yeah, we're probably not winning the national championship this year.

Stuart Corder 3 years, 4 months ago

The team lost this game because we turned the ball over.

We turned the ball over because: - aggressive KSU defense - telegraphing passes/schemes - double teamed players combined with no off ball movement - youth vs road pressure

Vick is as bad defensively as Garrett is offensively.

I agree with concern about McCormack transferring away, as it would continue a trend with Coach Self’s teams.

Lawrence McGlinn 3 years, 4 months ago

On offense, with the exception of maybe Larry Brown and Roy W (not a good defensive coach), even HOF coaches like Self and K kinda roll the ball out there and let their superior athletes outscore the other team. But a big offensive factor is 3-point shooting. We saw it 8 years ago when VCU hit twelve 3's and we hit two and obviously more recently with Villanova. Last year we made the Final Four because we hit 3's. When BS recruited Svi I thought he was getting the idea, but he still recruits athletes over shooters. Some improve while they are here like Mason and Graham, but some don't. I do wish he would recruit at least one great shooter a year. Last night we turned the ball over most when our guards, not confident to shoot from distance, tried to force the ball inside a collapsing K-state defense. KSU hit 10 threes and we hit 7. That is a 9-point deficit.

KD Krase 3 years, 4 months ago

McCormack was a 5 star recruit, but he doesn't even play. No wonder we have trouble getting new recruits.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Seriously? Nobody expected him to play. Did Withey play right away? Aldrich? Ellis? T-Rob? Diallo? Were any of them any good?

Only Embiid (one of the best players on earth) was useful as a frosh...

3 McD AA's frosh are on this roster....can't recruit?

You're arguing with yourself. I predict you lose...twice.

Jason Venable 3 years, 4 months ago

Who else does KU have wise guy? We're sooo stack at that position next year, aren't we? Think of the future, stop living in the past. And grow hell up when speaking to other adults. You act like a childish man-child.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Who does KU have? For next year? Dok, D Lawson, KJ Lawson, Grimes, Garrett, Agbaji, Dotson, McCormack, Mitch, Moore, Braun, McBride on scholarship. That's 12. "Experts" seem to agree that Hurt is KU bound. That's 13. Teams have....13 scholarships.

No disrespect but most 10 year old hoops fans know that. Is that how you wish to be addressed?

Jason Venable 3 years, 4 months ago

I didn't say roster, I said nothing about our guards.I said "that" position which was referring to my original comment...bigs. Dok would be foolish to come back. And until he says he is, not counting on it. Mitch? Self basically has let Mitch know he's a bencher until all other options have been exhausted. And they are. When all else fail, go back and re-read what has been written. Go back to taking wedding photos, Jay.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 4 months ago

Why would Dok not come back? I don't think he has developed enough skills to go in the first round. He could only improve his stock with another year of college. His first couple have been cut short by injuries. I think he needs to improve his free throw shot to at least 60% and also develop some type of shot beside the dunk. The NBA has moved away, to some extent, from the old style down low center. And I don't think a NBA team wants a Hack-a-shack on their team they can't play late. Too many reasons to come back if you ask me.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 4 months ago

I'm not sure another season at KU would matter much Barry. He's pretty much shown what he can do and will be a project at the NBA level.

Jay Scott 3 years, 4 months ago

Jason....Obviously my objective in interacting with you was partly to make you look stupid.

You have that handled. I'll let you further the cause on your own.

Carolyn Hunzicker 3 years, 4 months ago

Duke freshmen perform Kentuckys freshmen perform

3 years, 4 months ago

we are waaay too spoiled as fans. couple items though: Actually Started Both Halves with TOs-terrible omen. Ochai has so much potential, he's still a frosh & will have ups & downs; ok. The 1 thing he can do to immediately improve: 0/2 from the line. he, like some of our guys in a similar position from the FT linein yrs past, NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE RIM WHILE DRIBBLING. 0 good/great ft shooters look down @ the ball while dribbling, preparing for a ft. Mitch looked CCC @ the line-normally totally discombobulated there-and made both. yes, 2 is not a large sample size, but it pains me that noone has mentioned this to him before. u r unguarded, no resason to look at the ball. focus on the hoop, breathe, let the brain/eyes focus, he'll be-and Should be-a 80%+ ft shooter. next game. rcjh

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