Wednesday, March 28, 2018

KU signees shine in McDonald’s All-American Game

Kansas University basketball recruiting

Kansas University basketball recruiting


Playing in the McDonald’s All-American Game on Wednesday, future Kansas guards Quentin Grimes and Devon Dotson didn’t disappoint in a 131-128 victory over the East squad, which featured a big night from KU signee David McCormack at Phillips Arena in Atlanta.

Grimes, the Gatorade Texas Player of the Year, scored 14 points and dished six assists in 19 minutes, shooting 6 of 10 from the floor. In a free-flowing exhibition without much defense, Grimes had one turnover and one steal, earning the start for the West squad.

Dotson contributed eight points on 4 of 9 shooting off of the bench for the West team in 18 minutes, recording four rebounds, three assists, two steals and two turnovers.

For the East squad, McCormack was one of two players to finish with a double-double, recording 14 points (7-for-11 shooting) and 10 rebounds in 15 minutes off of the bench. Romeo Langford, a five-star guard considering KU, Indiana and Vanderbilt, started for the East team and posted 19 points and six rebounds in 21 minutes.

Grimes, Dotson and McCormack all signed letters of intent with the Jayhawks during the early signing period in November.

They became the 44th, 45th and 46th McDonald's All-Americans to play at Kansas in the program's rich history and pushed the number of McDonald's All-Americans brought to KU by current Kansas coach Bill Self to 22, including 11 in the past five years.

This week, during preparation for Wednesday night's game, the trio sat down with Eric Bossi of for an in-depth look at their week and their future with the Jayhawks.

Asked by Bossi how much time the trio had spent together this week, Dotson said hanging out with his future teammates was a major priority in Atlanta.

"Just getting a better feel for each other," Dotson told Bossi. "Me and Quentin are on the same team (at the McDonald's game) so just playing with him and building that chemistry early, before the summer starts."

As for their thoughts on what might happen with Langford, who remains undecided and appears to be taking his decision between KU, Indiana and Vandy into the April signing period, Grimes, who is the tightest with Langford among the KU trio said he liked the Jayhawks' chances.

"Now that the season's over he's really starting to take it a lot more serious," Grimes told Bossi when talking about Langford. "I think we have a strong chance of getting him. We just have to keep selling him that he could just excel at Kansas for sure. He could excel at Indiana, as well. But it would be better for him to be competing with good players every day at practice. So hopefully we get him on that."


Henry Joseph Hofmeister 4 years, 8 months ago

so honestly, who is going to be better rated than us next year? there may be better one and done teams but we have remaining players in transfers that have practiced all year and our incoming players are outstanding. if we keep dok, vick, newman and of course we still have desousa, who can compare? this team could honestly pull a florida and decide to take it two years in a row. with those 4 and the brothers, that could potentially be a 7 first round pick year.

Reggie Flenory 4 years, 8 months ago

Newman isnt coming back vick however most likely will he hurt his draft stock when he went disappearing in the middle of the season

Jim Stauffer 4 years, 8 months ago

If you take a look at the rosters you will find we are going to be loaded as are Duke, UK and Villanova. There are probably many others I have not checked, but take Duke and Kentucky for instance. Duke should lose Allen, Bagley, Carter and Trent. I really do not know about Duvall. If they lose him, their high level talent will all be Freshmen. That could make it difficult for them to compete since we have similar Freshmen and much more talented experience. Kentucky will probably lose Alexander, Diallo and Knox at the most. They then have another good class coming in to play with Richards, Washington, Green and Gabriel. They will be better next year than this year. Nova has Jay Wright who has managed his roster better than most the last 5 years or so. They have Quinerly coming in. Don't know if they lose any underclassmen to the draft such as Bridges or not. Next year promises to be very competitive at a higher level than the best teams this year IMO.

Drew Doerfler 4 years, 8 months ago

i thought we would keep newman for next year, but it is looking like he may be gone now that he has really broken out and excelled in the 2 tournaments. I think we get Langford if he leaves and Langford looked really good in this game. Grimes also looked great scoring and i was also impressed with his passing ability. McCormack was better than i thought he would be. He had a great game and looked like a monster on the boards. Dotson, I couldn't really tell very much, but he looked extremely quick. No matter what, I think KU is a preseason top 2 team next year and it will be another fun year of KU basketball!

Dirk Medema 4 years, 8 months ago

Duke has the top 3 recruits and 4 of the top 10. They will be the top team because it makes the easiest story line. Transfers are harder to hype.

It is also very much a matter of who stays and who goes. Plenty of people think players should only leave when they are completely ready, but the NBA still loves potential. I'm guessing Dok and Malik are playing their way out of Lawrence.

John Joseph Gorski 4 years, 8 months ago

I don't see Dok being a threat to leave yet. He doesn't have an offensive game 5+ feet away from the rim. Also commits too many fouls. He needs one more good healthy year to develop.

Reggie Flenory 4 years, 8 months ago

Ive never seen dok face the basket and shoot a mid-range jump shot since he has been in Kansas

Craig Carson 4 years, 8 months ago

I didnt see Embiid ever face up and shoot a jumpshot while at KU either ..certainly didnt stop him from doing it in the NBA LOL

Lawrence McGlinn 4 years, 8 months ago

I'm not strongly disagreeing with you, but Dok seems to have been dominated much of the time in the tournament. He has had some dunks on lobs from really skillful guards, but Delgado from Seton Hall abused him. Also, I don't know what he does for an NBA team in this era. The days of a 7 footer posting up down low are long gone. Maybe he can develop the DeAndre Jordan block, rebound and dunk game. I really don't think we miss him much if he moves on. Malik we would miss terribly.

Marius Rowlanski 4 years, 8 months ago

I'm guessing that you did not see that fairly large brace that Udoka wears to protect his knee.

Lawrence McGlinn 4 years, 8 months ago

I understand he was hobbled, and he would have provided some more resistance if he was healthy, but even at 100% he is far from NBA-ready. He's an NBA-type athlete, but he needs some kind of face-up game. Most NBA 7-footers are comfortable shooting 3's. He really should stay and work on a more well-rounded game.

Craig Carson 4 years, 8 months ago

to be fair, Delgado wasnt anywhere near as effective when Dok was in the game.he did 80% of his damage against Lightfoot and DeSousa..but you are right about the dont see too many NBA centers who just post up, he NBA is too much in love with the 3 ball right now..

Robert Brock 4 years, 8 months ago

Dotson is going to be an excellent replacement for Graham. Quick, skilled, and super competitive.

Marius Rowlanski 4 years, 8 months ago

Yes, he will but he will also need time to learn his job at KU.

Henry Joseph Hofmeister 4 years, 8 months ago

if malik isn't first round, i hope he stays and captains. we are at no loss for any position next year. insanely talented team. how much did he learn from his dad and self, much less frank and 'tae here. He became a superstar confidence player.

Jim Stauffer 4 years, 8 months ago

What can Malik do for himself if he comes back next year? Any player at KU will do well to average 16-18 per game due to the team concept. And next year we will score at every position on the court. From Moore and Dotson to the 2's and 3's with Cunliffe, Grimes, little Lawson and Vick if he stays, then the 4's of Dedric, Mitch, Silvio and onto the 5's with Dok and McCormack. Every position is going to touch the ball a lot and score. So Malik is not going to improve on his ppg. next year. He should from a financial position take what he can get this year and not risk a down season next year.

Tony Bandle 4 years, 8 months ago

GONE: Svi, Graham, Newman, Cunliffe.

STAYS: Vick, Lightfoot, Garrett, Dok, De Sousa.

BECOMES ELIGIBLE: Lawson, Lawson, Moore.

ARRIVES: Dotson, Grimes, KC Kid, McCormack, Langford

This may be one of the most talented 1 thru 13 schollie player rosters in the history of KU.

FRONT LINE: Dok, , De Sousa, Lawson, McCormack.

BACK LINE: Vick, Garrett, Moore, Dotson, Grimes, KC Kid

WING: Lawson, Langford, Lightfoot.

Jay Scott 4 years, 8 months ago

Interesting that you have Mitch as a wing. I always see him as a combination of Morningstar and Traylor. He's a guy who can switch 1-5 and his shot will keep getting better. What's hard to predict is how many minutes he'll get being good at everything but not really great at much.A great player to have out there at crunch time with a lead.

Craig Carson 4 years, 8 months ago

I cant see Cunliffe leaving...I know he may or may not play, but to transfer and have to sit out another year..he might as well stick it out and wait until his Junior year and bust out...not sure if Langford will commit to KU..if he doesnt I think KJ can do just, a front line of Dok, Dedric Lawson, DeSousa and McCormack just sounds donw right scary..if teams had issues guarding Dok, how are they gonna handle everyone else LOL..the Vick/Grimes situation will be tough for Self...Grimes has the talent and hype but Vick has the experience..Self tends to go towards the experience

Marius Rowlanski 4 years, 8 months ago

Tough call. I don't see Cunliffe getting any more minutes next year than he did this year at Kansas. I think his best option is drop-down to a Division II program where he can play immediately instead of sitting out another season.

Mike Greer 4 years, 8 months ago

I'm with you, I don't see the logic of Sam transferring to Kansas, sitting out a year, not getting much playing time and then transferring again, only to sit out another year. He should have come to KU with his eyes wide open, that means he should have known the situation at KU before he transferred. What he missed was the opportunity to play the non-conference games and with the streak at stake, Coach didn't have the opportunity to get him in a conference game for any length of time. I can't help but think he will have some opportunities next season. If he's as good as advertised he's ok, if not, well then he may need to look at plan C.

Jonathan Andrews 4 years, 8 months ago

I say Vick AND Azubuike leave, but I don't think that Malik will. If he is tourney MOP and his stock went through the roof, I would wish him well. But he's not at PG at all, and he will struggle to refine any NBA skill other than scoring. I would like to see us get Langford, but really, that's more of a nice bonus rather than a crucial gain.

PG: MOORE, Dotson, Teahan SG: NEWMAN, Garrett SF: GRIMES, Cunliffe PF: LAWSON, De Sousa, Lightfoot C: LAWSON, McCormack

Reggie Flenory 4 years, 8 months ago

Dok does not have an NBA game he's never shot a mid-range jumper since he's been at Kansas and he's not going to be able to bully his way in the paint in the NBA it is critical that he develops a mid-range jump shot and show some ability to face up and take his man off the dribble 20 years ago he be in good shape to go to the NBA but now you really have to have a skill set to be a legitimate big man

Chad Dexter 4 years, 8 months ago

Yup. And last I knew Dok was not on any NBA mock drafts. He will be back next year. Newman, however, will be gone if he continues playing well in the tournament.

Marius Rowlanski 4 years, 8 months ago

Newman stays and Moore starts at the PG? Vick AND Udoka both stay?

Maybe 1 of 4 correct at best.

Reggie Flenory 4 years, 8 months ago

I say they paired Doak and Dedrick at the four and the five event pair McCormick with de Souza Off the Bench runny 4 man rotation with the bigs

McCormick has a really nice game he can hit mid-range jump shots he can face up and he's very athletic around the rim

Andy Godwin 4 years, 8 months ago

What a nice group of young men, who are already representing KU well. With Charle Moore and Devon Dotson, the point guard position should be in good shape. Like all new players, it takes time to adjust to what Self expects and the speed of the college game. Dedric is likely to be the biggest impact player of the new comers. Although Udoka is big and can outclass many bigs in college basketball, he really needs to spend next year working on a midrange shot. Solely dunking the ball does not really work in today's NBA and he has a chance for a long professional career. It all depends on if financially he need to make a jump to a profession league (Europe or US) to help his family. Newman will clearly explore his options, and going into the season I had said he is the most NBA ready, just took awhile to show that skill set. So KU will have many new faces next year, but should be very competitive. Here's hoping they will be trying to repeat as National Champs next year. Rock Chalk.

Jonathan Allison 4 years, 8 months ago

If Langford decides on KU, that means that we're going to see at least two early departures (NBA Draft or transfer).

Newman is dying to go to the NBA. The way that he's played of late, I'd say there is a good change that he's gone. Didn't he test the waters two years ago? So he can't test the waters again, right? My understanding is that you are allowed to test the waters one time only. I think he's 85/15 gone.

Vick has played himself back into the good graces of KU fans, but that doesn't diminish the fact that he's been a little bit of problem for the staff since he's been here. As a freshman he had the Title IX investigation, as a sophomore he was involved in the Bragg and Josh Jackson fiascos. This year he had his ups and downs on the court and we don't know if something else was fueling his mood swings or not. If I had to guess, then I'd say he probably will stick around for his Sr. year, but I recognize that there's a chance that Self cut choose to cut ties to make room for the rookies. I'd say 60/40 he stays.

Azubuike doesn't have a tremendous NBA skill set, but an athletic 7' - 280 lb monster who shoots 75% from the floor and is only 18 years old is the kind of project that the NBA has been known to take on over the years. If he goes to the draft he will get drafted. Probably 2nd round, maybe late first round. I don't think that he's ready to go to the NBA, and I think he loves college and playing at KU. I'm thinking he's 60/40 to stay.

Personally don't think that we'll land Langford, but if we do then someone will have to go, and the two most likely choices would probably be Vick and Dok... other possibilities would be Cunliffe to go closer to home and maybe down a division for PT, then maybe Garrett, Lightfoot, or a Lawson bro. But those seem unlikely especially since the Lawsons were starters at Memphis and will be Redshirt Jrs. I don't think that anyone will qualify for a Grad transfer.

Mathieu Uhart 4 years, 8 months ago

So far, only Svi and DTae are on the Mock draft boards (mid-second round). Obviously this may change after the NCAA Tournament, and the NBA combine. I don't see Dok being in this draft. While the scouts love big tall prospects, they tend to go for your long-lean, bouncy types, not the big lumbering old-school centers. I think when Dok improves his offensive skills a bit, which he will, he'll jump to first round easily in the 2019 draft. We will soon go from too lean in the big men department, to almost too many next year. Dok, Lawson, DeSousa, McCormack, Lightfoot....we'll have potentially the most terrifying front court in basketball. IF Newman stays, will we even have scholarship room for Langford? Will he come knowing he's really battling for that guard spot? Newman stays, we get Langford, and I'd almost say we can run two squads. It's all conjecture, but that's part of the fun. Regardless, we'll be as loaded as I can remember. BTW, my basketball muse (80%+ betting average) has us by 10 on Nova this Saturday. Fingers crossed.

Jay Scott 4 years, 8 months ago

Anyone who assumes Dotson starts at the point doesn't understand Bill Self. Marcus Garrett has shown that he understands the system, values the ball and can defend with the best. Moore has to have learned some of that with a year of practice. No way a true fresh starts ahead of both.

Jonathan Allison 4 years, 8 months ago

Bill Self will start the players whom he trusts to give him the best chance to win the game.

The trust factor can't be overlooked. Bill Self trusts Garrett. But right now Garrett is a 2 guard with a decent handle, a shaky jumper, and an unproven facilitator. What he does well: he plays great defense, he protects the ball, and he can get into the paint off the dribble and finish.

Bill Self needs a PG who can facilitate, and he needs shooters who can defend and rebound from the wing positions.

The freshmen will get their chances. If they can hack it, then Self will roll with them. If they can't then it gets interesting to see who steps up. Garrett will play... but unless the freshmen are a little too fresh, I would expect him coming off the bench (unless he can unseat senior Vick as a starter on the wing).

Jay Scott 4 years, 8 months ago

A 2 guard? Says who? Garrett was recruited as a ...PG. In high school... PG! Who played the point in the minutes Graham sat? Garrett! Garrett can learn to shoot a lot more easily than a frosh can learn Self's system.

Jonathan Allison 4 years, 8 months ago

hence why Devonte' Graham played 38 minutes a game this season.

I think that Garrett can develop into a great point, in the mold of Tyshawn Taylor but with better size and smarts. That said TT played 4 years due to a lack of PG depth. For two years he could defer to Sherron, Selby didn't pan out, and Elijah Johnson was a really good 2 guard, but when we needed him to be the PG we had mixed results. Right now KU may have as much PG depth as we've ever had (Dotson, Moore, Garrett, but all of it is unproven at the position). Only time will tell who runs the show next year.

Craig Carson 4 years, 8 months ago

think you are forgetting about Moore..he averaged about 13 ppg at Cal...he might get the starting nob at PG

Jonathan Allison 4 years, 8 months ago

I understand that the kid can play and I know that Bill Self wanted him for a reason. In my mind the starting PG spot next season will be Dotson's to lose and Moore's to gain. Garrett can it play in a pinch. Next year I see him more as a player who can help out the PG than an actual PG. He will be able to get the ball and go with it. He will bring it up sometimes and set up the O, but that job will primarily fall on Dotson or Moore, whichever player Self trusts to manage the game and play D.

Jay Scott 4 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for so perfectly illustrating the point "Anyone who assumes Dotson starts at the point doesn't understand Bill Self."

Mike Greer 4 years, 8 months ago

Newman explored the NBA after his freshman year, that's what led to him coming to KU. Unless he gets totally derailed against Nova, I would certainly expect him to test the waters once again based on his tournament performances. A great Final Four and he could be gone. Vick may test as well, but those mid season "lost games" probably are too much to overcome. You can't just disappear for half the season and no one take notice. Dok, I agree with everyone who thinks he needs to develop a fuller inside game for the NBA to be really interested. The Seaton Hall game exposed some of his shortcomings that may not have been so glaring prior to that game.

We should have some experienced veteran players and some very talented new comers for the next season. I can't wait to see what DeSousa can do next season after a true freshman experience with Coach.

Steve Grimm 4 years, 8 months ago

With the way Malik has played closing out the season - and really shining when the pressure and stakes are the highest, I see him declaring for the draft. If that happens, I predict Romeo will opt KU. Otherwise, I think our back court might be too crowded for him.

Suzi Marshall 4 years, 8 months ago

Bill Self likes to play two PGs with an eight or nine player rotation for conference and post season. With Newman's and Vick's post season performance, I seriously don't see either returning. Self will go back to a predominant 3 & 2 lineup, while playing some 4-1. The bigs will probably go with a 4 man rotation (Dok, D. Lawson, De Sousa, McCormack). The guards will probably use a 5 man rotation for the 3 spots...Garrett, Grimes, Dobson will for sure be 3 of them. Moore, KJ, and Lightfoot will be fighting for PT, although I'd love to see Lightfoot redshirt. If we sign Langford, he will for sure be in that rotation with Garrett/Grimes/Dobson. As a fan, it's sooooooo damn nice to have elite debt again and will gladly leave it to Self & Staff to worry about PT.

Lawrence McGlinn 4 years, 8 months ago

You may be right about Self going back to 2 bigs because we may have a lot of good ones, but I think the game has changed enough that 4-1 or even 5-0 is more effective. Look at the teams in the final four. Any dominant bigs? It has taken a generation, but everyone is getting the idea that a shot that is worth 50% more is worth building your offense around. And now, crazily athletic 6-7 and 6-8 "wings" are outside threats. Kentucky is learning that athletic big guys can dunk their way to 30 pts a game in high school, but if they can't shoot they are vulnerable as a group.

Craig Carson 4 years, 8 months ago

you dont exactly NEED 4 guards on the floor to win a can do 2 bigs on the floor as long as one has some, if Dok stays, Self will have 2 talented big men..I dont see him playing each 10 minutes a game..besides,I think Self still prefers the 2 big long as the 2 guards and the wing can shoots 3's, it will work.

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