Saturday, September 9, 2017

Tom Keegan: Jayhawks fail pivotal test to prove themselves

Central Michigan defensive back Tyjuan Swain rips the ball away from Kansas receiver Quan Hampton for an interception on Saturday at Memorial Stadium.

Central Michigan defensive back Tyjuan Swain rips the ball away from Kansas receiver Quan Hampton for an interception on Saturday at Memorial Stadium.


Central Michigan came to Lawrence to give a Kansas football program in the midst of yet another rebuilding project a test it absolutely had to pass in order to be taken seriously. A suspicious public needed convincing that the upset of Texas last November was a turning point and not a one-week blast with the shelf life of a loaf of bread.

The Jayhawks failed the test in colossal fashion, losing every aspect of the game to Central Michigan, 45-27. Just a small fraction of the 28,531 spectators who came in search of evidence of real progress remained to the bitter end to absorb the entire late-afternoon of regression.

The tired line usually not uttered until next month or the month after could be heard spilling out of too many frustrated mouths belonging to ticket holders heading to the parking lot: “At least there’s basketball.”

At certain times, the gap between the sports at KU seems so wide as to scare an in-his-prime Evel Knievel armed with a rocket ship. This weekend qualified as one of those times. The day after Bill Self was inducted into the Hall of Fame in Springfield, Mass., KU flunked a test that it was favored to pass. Hence, the “at least there’s basketball,” refrain.

No, there isn’t, actually. Not at Memorial Stadium, where five more games will be played this season regardless of whether anyone is there to watch them. Those holding tickets to those games against West Virginia, Texas Tech, Kansas State, Baylor and Oklahoma State didn’t leave the stadium having anything concrete to cling to in the way of hope because the beating administered by the Chippewas was so thorough and so much was exposed.

If it had only been a case of Peyton Bender, who looked so accurate in the season-opener one week earlier, having fits of wild-high throws, well at least there could have been hope that he could correct that if the right side of the offensive line could figure out how to give him at least a semblance of protection.

Yet, the truth is KU’s defense was significantly worse than the offense.

KU’s secondary, exposed for its lack of speed, attention to detail and communication, made senior quarterback Shane Morris, a graduate transfer from Michigan, look like the most talented lefty the sports world has seen since Sandy Koufax retired 51 years ago. Morris completed 28 of 37 passes for 467 yards and five touchdowns without throwing an interception. Just for sport, Morris mixed in 32 rushing yards.

Receivers Mark Chapman (168 receiving yards and three touchdowns) and Corey Willis (140 yards, one TD) were like your favorite greasy spoon: always open, totally reliable. Not just open, very often wide open.

What caused that?

“Everything,” junior linebacker Joe Dineen said. “Linebackers weren’t getting in their coverages. Lack of pass rush, DB’s, just the defense as a whole. They tore us up. They tore us up.”

He said it twice for emphasis. Had he said it six times nobody would have accused him of overdoing it.

Sophomore safety Bryce Torneden had a particularly tough game and repeatedly was targeted by Morris.

“I just have to perfect my craft, continue to practice hard, get in the film room, make the game a lot slower and just trust my teammates, trust my technique and all that,” Torneden said of how he plans to put a stop to that.

The sophomore out of Free State High will give himself the best possible chance of succeeding because he’s mature, serious and driven. That’s how he landed a starting job in his second year of college, despite not landing another FBS offer. But it’s difficult to become faster and on some of the receptions he gave up, speed was the issue.

“I think most of it’s correctable,” Torenden said of the breakdowns in coverage. “Obviously, they came out and popped us in the mouth and we have to be better prepared next time going into the game and make sure we’re not overlooking our opponent. We definitely started off not how we wanted to and then we were behind, just made it tough on ourselves.”

The most stunning stretch came at the end of the first half, when Morris led his team on a pair of touchdown drives during which he turned KU’s defense into a fast-food drive-through window. Morris needed just 91 seconds to drive the Chippewas 83 yards for a TD with 2:59 left in the half. Then he stepped on the gas pedal and needed just 65 seconds to drive his team 90 yards.

Just like that, Central Michigan took a 24-6 lead into halftime and the all-too-familiar mad rush for the exit ramps was on. How many of them will return any time soon and just what will it take to bring them back?

— See what people were saying about the game during's live coverage.

More news and notes from Kansas vs. Central Michigan


Brett McCabe 4 years, 11 months ago

To me, it goes back to Zenger's bi-polar hiring philosophy. Neither hire was typical, neither hire had anything to do with the other and neither hire worked. What kind of an executive makes consecutive hires that are philosophical opposites?

As we slog onto a 1-11 season, we need to find a technically proven coach because we will have 42 returning from our two deep next year. Believe it or not, that is something to build upon - if you hire someone who knows how to run a football program.

Who will apply? That's a good question but my vote is that we send an envoy to Wyoming and have him/her camp out on Craig Bohl's porch for the next three months. Bohl is a guy who can take a team and make it work. Right now. And he's a guy who can hold a recruiting class together.

You have one chance to hire Bohl and it is this year. Another year at Wyoming and he'll be fielding offers from who knows where. Hire him. Hire him on Sunday after our last Saturday. Pay him whatever he asks and let's get serious about football for a change.

Gerry Butler 4 years, 11 months ago

That is the Million dollar question - - - What Coach would want to come here? - - I don't think there would be very many if any that would consider this job as a step up - -maybe a NAIA coach would consider it an improvement, hell even assistant Coaches would be hesitant . I mean seriously if your looking to improve your coaching Career you want to come into this nightmare?

Charlie Gaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

Yesterday's game was eerily reminiscent of games during the Weis era. We had the super hyped transfer quarterback throwing the ball everywhere but where it needed to be, numerous mistakes at critical times on both sides of the ball, and a defense that appeared completely confused.

KU football has developed a culture similar to a bad circus act rather than a college program. This is demonstrated by the staff members dancing with the players on the sideline, the multiple uniform combinations, and the noise pollution blaring out of the video board. This program lacks an identity, discipline, and consistency.

The replacement of Zenger as Athletic Director has got to be considered. In the event that we've seen the only victory of the year some serious changes will have to be implemented. I would probably still agree that Beaty would not have been given enough time considering the total decimation of the program by Weis. However, if year four does not produce results does KU really want to be in a position where Zenger is searching for his third head coach?

Michael Leiker 4 years, 11 months ago

After three coaches all seeming to deal with the same or very similar struggles, one has to start looking deeper to try to find what it is in the water at KU Athletics that causes this rampantly inconsistent football to be played. What is it that is inherent in the culture of KU Athletics that makes it so difficult for good football to be played here.

My theory could be completely off base, and I think there are other contributing factors, but I have thought it for a few years now and feel like I saw a bunch of evidence of it today. Since the end of the 2009 season, after Gill was hired and tickets season ticket sales had plummeted, the hype machine driven by the marketing department has far overestimated and oversold the product that would be on the field the coming season, many years to the point of being truly embarrassing. We've all been sitting in the room with a KSU fan, watching the Royals, or whatever other event, when the KU Football commercial comes on talking about the passion or greatness on the field this coming fall, or the legends of the past, etc and had to endure the snarky comments or feel the rolls of the eyes from our friends.

To me this constant hyping or attempt to get the fans hyped up, or the players hyped up for the next possession, kick off, next game, etc has gotten way out of hand. Watching the sidelines it's almost like there is more effort put into trying to get each other jacked up for the next thing than there is for what is actually happening. Football is mainly about discipline, it's about being where you are supposed to be, simply doing your job on every single play.

I could take a novel to completely state what I'm getting at and never articulate it as well as I feel it, but my point is this; Please, KU Athletics, let KU Football exist on it's own merits. Let it try to stand on it's own two feet. Let the actual play on the field drive how you market the team. These kids hear everything that is said about them, how they're hyped up. All of the hype makes it truly difficult to coach extremely disciplined hard nosed football. It makes it extremely difficult for a coach to focus on being consistent day in and day out, doing the right things that pay dividends in the long run instead of chasing short term fixes or schemes to quickly correct what are really deeply rooted problems. Cancel all of Beaty's contractual marketing commitments, try to remove any pressure he feels to give a flip about how many people are in the stands or how many season tickets are sold. Let these guys have a single job, coaching football. I think you would find their chances of success would increase dramatically.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 11 months ago

Michael, your viewpoint is interesting and I've long wondered what the fundamental issue is with the program that prevents it from getting over the top. I think that there is something to the idea of digging deeper, into the fundamentals of building a program, something more real and more organic. I also am struggling finding the right words but it might be worth trying something close to a near blackout of communications - as long as it isn't just another trick.

Related to this point is a complaint that I've had the past two seasons is that the stadium on game day resembles a carnival midway more than it does a real football atmosphere. In the second half, on literally every offensive play for CMU, there was a crowd-pumping song plowed through the loudspeakers at about 3-million decibels. It's exhausting, annoying, artificial and completely unhelpful. It's overkill, even for the 300 or so students actually in attendance after halftime.

Getting back to what is real, dropping the hashtags, the neat deals, etc., etc. might help the program more than we know.

Jay Hawkinson 4 years, 11 months ago

It's not the marketing departments fault that the secondary couldn't cover MAC receivers.

Bryan Mohr 4 years, 11 months ago

It's simple. Coaching. There was an immediate and significant improvement in KU football when Mangino took over after Terry Allen. It was like, wow, the team looks crisp and quick and executes plays consistently. I didn't see that in Gill, Weis, or Beaty. But Mangino was a proven coach from a winning program. He was the OC for an OU team that went undefeated (13-0). Gill was 20-30 at Buffalo - bad hire. Weis was canned by ND for lack of success - bad hire. Beaty was basically a wide receivers coach prior to coming to KU - a big gamble - bad hire. KU simply needs to hire a good coach. I've found it ironic that KU keeps trying to hire guys that will pull-in the good recruits but the fans keep talking about how the problem is player talent and not so much the coaching. Can someone explain to me why CMU and Ohio can out recruit KU? I don't know if KU could even beat Rhode Island this year... is Rhode Island better at recruiting? Is it their fancy locker rooms, practice facilities, or beautiful stadiums? Good coaches will make average players look good on the field. Mediocre coaches will take good talent and make them look mediocre on the field. It's not the marketing, the music, or the player talent that is resulting in losses to teams like CMU and Ohio. It is the coaching. I dare Zenger to bring back Mangino and prove me wrong.

Steve Corder 4 years, 11 months ago

Well now, long rants are to be expected from some quarters, but not me.

Lots to be unhappy about, least of all the dreadful QB play, but teams can get better....I just hope it is soon....where was Sims?

Tom Keegan 4 years, 11 months ago

Sims tried to play on injured ankle, but was too hurt to be effective.

Doug Cramer 4 years, 11 months ago

Tom - it's time to call out Clint Bowen.

We all know he's a liability in this program. Point out a DC with a worse performance driven tangible resume than Bowen and I'll buy you a steak dinner with a blooming onion.

I love KU football, but gah does it suck over the past decade.

Jay Hawkinson 4 years, 11 months ago

I think it is worth asking whether Bowen would have that job if he wasn't an alum and Beaty's good friend. That said, he's had his moments. I thought for the most part he had the defense playing to its potential last year, and also in the year when he was interim coach. We are replacing 4/5 starters in the secondary, and were up against a quarterback who was on the depth chart at Michigan. There were always going to be issues with pass defense this year, though there were a few schematic breakdowns that were very disappointing.

Stephen Johnson 4 years, 11 months ago

Doug - Bowen is to blame for a totally inept offense against a mediocre defense. They hyped Bender and he's a total liability. Stanley should be starting, but they won't consider him because he doesn't throw the ball 100 mph and a country mile. All Stanley does is give us a chance to win.

Marc Frey 4 years, 11 months ago

I am going to the OSU game, but it is in Stillwater, so you might change that home game to OU. Regardless, we were beat by a better team and by ourselves. We have a few playmakers, but still the talent is not there. When an non-recruit is starting at safety, you still lack talent.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 11 months ago

Torneden was recruited by NDSU, a team good enough to beat us and KSU on our home fields. And we was recruited and offered by us. Of all the problems on the field yesterday, no need to pick out one kid because I also saw plenty of flashes of good play by him and enough potential to get excited about. If you didn't watch the game, I'll help you out: no pass rush, too many turnovers, missed field goal, no TD from the one on the opening drive, a non-call on a clear holding vs. Harrell that likely would have given us a touchdown, failed pass coverage all over the field, etc., etc. Plenty of blame to go around - start with the coaches.

Jay Hawkinson 4 years, 11 months ago

Torneden is good against the run, but struggles in zone coverage. Which is exactly what you'd expect with a redshirt freshman. In a healthy program he would be spending this year and probably next as a special teams ace, and then get a shot at safety. Part of what we are seeing is Weis' last gift - the lack of senior/redshirt junior class. Because he left the cupboard bare, kids like Torneden are being pressed into action before they're ready.

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 11 months ago

I'm so frustrated I want to write a 15 page rant to express it. But that would be a waste of time as this team isn't worth the effort. I've been a huge Beaty supporter and I love the guy but he's officially on the hot seat. He better find a way to get three more wins.

Scott Burton 4 years, 11 months ago

Bringing back the Orange bowl team was like a dream.Will it be another 10 years?

Al Martin 4 years, 11 months ago

Longer. Easily. I just turned 60, so, not my lifetime.

Randy Bombardier 4 years, 11 months ago

I too have been wondering about the culture. Agree with the annoying "music" played at the game.

If i were to make a prediction about our next home game it would only be about the fan base. I expect about 20,000 fans.

Seems to me we have the talent, we have the depth but you would not have known it. That I put in the coaches. Team was not prepared, not hungry it looked to me. The most effective receivers appeared to be Johnson, Harrell, and Schadler (all local kids). Why is that?

I was alarmed when i read that Long lived off campus. Do you know where YOUR players are? If our players are not home in bed at 10 pm on the night before a game we have a real problem. Thats what it looked like to me, that they were playing like the celebrated the win BEFORE the game. I guess its possible that they were actually studying on a Friday night but of course highly unlikely.

If i were evaluating which players are starting that would be a key component of earning it. Are they in class? Are they in conditioning? Are they in bed or are they on the street? Do they have self discipline? Those are the minimum standards. If they cannot pass these no matter how good they are they don't play. You just can't afford to let them play as these types will take many less talented players down the wrong path. This is entirely speculation on my part but if the coaches are doing their jobs it makes sense. A tight ship is the only way toright this ship and right now it looks pretty loose.

John Brazelton 4 years, 11 months ago

Everyone needs to relax. It was a bad game by almost the whole team, with a few exceptions of the special teams. The players and coaches got a big head from the Week One win. Now everyone knows that they need to work hard and pay attention to details. It's not the end of the world, unless North Korea hits us with several Nukes.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 11 months ago

If they got a big head from beating an FCS team predicted to finish in the bottom half of the conference, then I'm actually more concerned than I was before.

David Kemp 4 years, 11 months ago

In with you a big head comes when you beat a team 60-0, not speaking by semo.

Robert Brock 4 years, 11 months ago


  1. Fire Zenger

  2. Fire Zenger

  3. Fire Zenger

Austin Lopez 4 years, 11 months ago

Dear Kansas Athletics, It is time to let defensive coordinator Client Bowen go, and get some one more proven or get a young coach who is hungry and know what he is doing. After yesterday's performance of the defense I am disgusted! How can you let CMU score on you like that, A team who almost lost to Rhode Island in returned who lost to Stony Brook over the weekend! Let that sink in you let CMU drop 45 points on you at home, Imagine what Oklahoma and Oklahoma state are going to do to the defense. Coach Beaty should of been allowed to pick his defensive coordinator from the beginning, but Kansas wanted to keep Bowen as a defensive coordinator. Are problem starts with Kansas telling a man who he can and can't hire!

Kansas Athletics what makes Client Bowen so good as a defensive coordinator in your eyes? Do you think he is a good coach because you like the guy? Because when I think of a good defensive coordinator I think of someone who's defense gets stops, someone who gets the job done, And it is obvious Client Bowen doesn't get the job done. Kansas Athletics stop giving the guy a pass because you like him, and get someone in here who can coach defense because boy is the score board going get lit up this season.

Jay Hawkinson 4 years, 11 months ago

The defensive line was hyped so much all offseason. Armstrong and Wise have done a decent job of getting into the backfield and causing hurries, but the entire team only has one sack so far, which was against SEMO. Pathetic. I don't know how much of that is Bowen's schemes, Armstrong being gimpy, the new d-line coach, or strength and conditioning, but it is unacceptable. That is one group that has talent and experience. They should be showing us something.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 11 months ago

Armstrong has been in a situation where he is being doubled team, I don't know what the Kansas coaches are practicing in practice but maybe they should be teaching Armstrong some moves to get past double teams because bull rushing and a rip move isn't going to work on two defenders, The secondary was getting lit up all day! The lack of production is all the fault of the defensive coordinator, his job is to put the defense in position to be successful which he didn't do.

Jay Hawkinson 4 years, 11 months ago

Yeah part of it is that teams are keying on Armstrong and Wise and double teaming. I think the solution to that is blitzing more. Put teams in a position where if they double team Armstrong, Dineen gets a shot at their quarterback.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 11 months ago

Bingo, Client Bowen needs to come up with some blitz packages because the longer you let that QB sit in the pocket the more our DB's and Safeties are going to get lit up and exposed, Because I don't think our secondary can guard a practice dummy after yesterdays game. Our number one goal should be getting to the QB even if that means blitzing every single play, and the BIG 12 receivers are much bigger and faster than CMU receivers (They was making it look so easy) and quarterbacks are much better than CMU QB.

Clarence Haynes 4 years, 11 months ago

Some how or another, fix the defense! Recruit some six foot something def back studs with speed and athleticism that can for the most part, play mano a mano a la Talib!

David Kemp 4 years, 11 months ago

Still need a line that can pressure the qb. Never happened yesterday and our lbs were getting knocked around big time.

Tracey Graham 4 years, 11 months ago

It's going to be another long season. So many stupid mistakes on both sides of the ball. You can't let a mediocre QB throw for almost 500 yards against you. You can't let defenders pull the ball out of your hands, resulting in turnovers.

My optimism in Peyton Bender took a huge dip after watching this game. His receivers definitely did not help him, but how many times did he throw the ball into double coverage? Or right at a Central Michiggan player? He easily could have had five or six interceptions. A QB needs to show good decision making, and for the most part, I didn't see that from Bender yesterday.. He did have a couple of good plays when KU was near or in the red zone...only to see the plays go for naught because his receivers couldn't hang onto the ball. But overall, I wasn't impressed with him. Hopefully he'll bounce back. Otherwise we may be seeing Carter Stanley as the starter again in the not too distant future.

On the other side of the ball, these numbers tell the story: in 2 games, the KU defense has no sacks, no interceptions and have allowed 7 passing TDs. Opponents are completing better than 65% of their throws.. Whether it's the scheme or just a lack of talent, the pass defense is a giant mess. Rhode Island and Central Michigan are not exactly Oklahoma or Oklahoma State in terms ofoffensive juggernauts. (Well, CMU was last year, but they lost their QB and best receiver).

David Robinett 4 years, 11 months ago

I have to add my voice to those saying how terribly annoying the electronic music is in the stadium, as well as the idiotic animated games on the scoreboard. I also don't think we need to honor somebody at every single TV time out. With our play on the field at this time we absolutely do not be showing commercials telling our explosive offense and tenacious defense. Those things all might be tolerable if we were winning but as it is it simply adds insult to injury.

David Robinett 4 years, 11 months ago

I am also as about as lenient and forgiving a fan as there is, but I have to agree that we need to change at DC. We all love the fact Clint is a local guy, but he has made a great living with us for many years and can find a spot on somebody else's coaching staff. I have sat in the stands for 30 years watching our defense backs get burned on third and forever. Something has got to change.

David Robinett 4 years, 11 months ago

Thought I heard that Bill Young is no longer with Oklahoma State. Perhaps Tulsa? Shirley we could lure him from there.

Al Martin 4 years, 11 months ago

He led the last good defense we had. Would love to have him.

Joe Ross 4 years, 11 months ago

Skepticism after last week has given way to full blown pessimism after this week. I get it. You lose to Central Michigan...on your HOME the fashion that you did. This is Beaty's 3rd year and he has guys in the system who have been in the program a couple of years. One begins to wonder if more time will yield more of the same.

Here's the thing though, guys. We have to see this season through with the team. Gotta do it. He's who we got. There will still be good times ahead for KU football. THIS SEASON.

Maybe we need to reconsider Carter Stanley. Re-wet his feet against Ohio.

David Kemp 4 years, 11 months ago

I think it is pretty obvious that we need in our offense for the qb to run and only Stanley can do that so I agree make the change

Stephen Johnson 4 years, 11 months ago

Well, at least Peyton Bender beat Texas last year. Wait a minute, that was Carter Stanley. Look, Bender may have a NFL caliber arm, but what is that worth if you can't extend plays with your movement in the pocket and throw passes up for grab. Winning is the only thing that matters. Stanley has demonstrated the ability to create on offense. I'm not say that we would have won with Stanley, but our offense would have been better.

David Kemp 4 years, 11 months ago

Furthermore after 3 years it is time to measure progress in wins and losses and not being "competitive".

David Kemp 4 years, 11 months ago

Big problem is that if today is any indication this team will not be competitive with the personnel starting right now

David A. Smith 4 years, 11 months ago

I'm going to weigh in on the loud speaker music as well: on several occasions, my wife and I wanted to hear the band play on the hill prior to the game but couldn't because of the music.

On many occasions, the band is trying to play and the piped-in music will begin and interrupt the band. That is embarrassing, rude, and wrong. Our band is fantastic, and both they and our fans deserve better than that. This isn't pro football. We have a band, and a very good one!

Randy Bombardier 4 years, 11 months ago

Been thinking more about the culture. My niece is an athlete at KU. Didn't know Jayhawk Towers were coed. IMO any and all coed dorms are all a mistake, especially with athletes. They need zero distractions.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 11 months ago

As much as I love David Beaty, I think he should get one more season and that's it! If he can't prove he can win games in year 4 hit the road jack. Once again just because you like the guy doesn't mean he is a good head coach. If Kansas finishes the season 1-11, I do think Kansas has to fire someone, and all eye's point to Clint Bowen as the guy that has to go, Now this is me speculating that Kansas finishes 1-11 after yesterday's stinky egg they laid. Kansas was in position to win 3-4 games, They flopped on yesterday's Win, But there are still winnable games such as Baylor (This is a game they should/NEED TO win), Ohio and Iowa State are toss up games. If Kansas loses to Baylor than we have some serious issues here and the whole coaching staff should be let go, I think everyone on this blog can agree that Baylor is in a much more worse boat than Kansas is at this point.

Bryan Mohr 4 years, 11 months ago

I don't agree that Baylor is "in a much more worse boat" than Kansas. Bad, yes, but not much worse.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 11 months ago

Baylor lost to Liberty! A FCS SCHOOL!!! And turned around and lost to UTSA this weekend! Baylor lost half of it roster, there dignity and pride! Once you lose your dignity and pride you have reach the all time low of lows. There's no roster depth, no top recruits are thinking of attending Baylor. So If you think Baylor is in a much better boat than Kansas than David Beaty needs to resign.

Bryan Mohr 4 years, 11 months ago

I didn't say "Baylor is in a much better boat than Kansas". I said, "not much worse". Both KU and Baylor need to rebuild. The Baylor scandal will be old news in a couple years, just like Penn State. Dignity and pride can be rebuilt with time. KU football is 15-71 since Mangino with zero bowl appearances. Baylor has a history of football success to rebuild from; KU does not. I wouldn't be so confident that KU would beat Liberty, UTSA, or Baylor this year. Rhode Island is an FCS school and came closer to beating CMU (at CMU, 3 OT) than KU did in Lawrence. UTSA went to a bowl game last year.

Barry Weiss 4 years, 11 months ago

well, that sucked big time. We won't win a game in conference if we play like that.

Jack Brooks 4 years, 11 months ago

Bowen should do the program and his buddy Beaty a favor and resign. Let Beaty (try to) find a solid D coordinator and position coaches. Bowen shouldn't make Beaty take the whole ship down because he can't or won't fire him. Give Beaty an out.

Jack Brooks 4 years, 11 months ago

Oh, and to Coach Beaty, I'm not sure what it is you have the players do all week between games, but they should absolutely not come out and play the second game of the season looking like they had the week off from practice. They looked poorly coached and confused.

Bender is probably a great kid--I don't know him--but we've seen him before in Dayne Crist. Coach, because you apparently don't know how to develop or coach an O-line, you need a quarterback that has pocket presence and the ability to run. Bender can throw hard. Great. He's a statue with almost no pocket presence and is apparently terrified of getting hit.

John Smith 4 years, 11 months ago

Between the 1992 and 2008 seasons KU went 5-1 in bowls games, including a BCS victory, finished in the top 25 three times, including two finishes in the top 10. We had a decent program with some good coaches. It doesn't have to be this bad. No one wants to fire yet another HC and have to start all over, but if they can't at least show some improvement over last year, this will have to happen.

Doug Roberts 4 years, 11 months ago

I went to a college football game, and a hip hop concert broke out.

How about toning down the music between EVERY down, and then maybe playing music the vast majority of the ticket purchasing fans would enjoy, and not just the kids goin' to da club after the game.

Clark Groseth 4 years, 11 months ago

I did the same thing...only I was in Durham, NC. I have been to games at Clemson and Wake Forest and they all do the same blasted thing. Fortunately, I can turn my hearing aids off...blessed relief!

Tony Bandle 4 years, 11 months ago

It seems like a decade since we had good football at KU......oh wait, that's about right.

The only way to attract a top notch coach to turn around this program is to offer a package that makes him the highest paid Division One coach in America with total autonomy and freedom to implement as he sees fit.

Realignment is coming. boys and girls, and I would hate to have to count on our HOF BBall coach being here to help sweeten the pot for some league to choose us without at least a decent football program to partner up with our Blue Blood Basketball Program.

I wish no ill will or acrimony to the current coaching staff. They are just not good enough. As Michael said to Sonny, "It's nothing's just business.

Richard Duran 4 years, 11 months ago

Why is it that with Sims hurt Charlot gets nothing? How is it Frazier gets beat like that and Baldwin doesn't make it onto the field? So much for the vaunted Alabama transfers. Poor Armstrong is getting hit by 3 people every play. Secondary is inexperienced and it showed. Disappointing day.

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