Saturday, November 5, 2016


Tom Keegan: Unpredictable play equals predictable result

Kansas coach David Beaty argues with the officials during the first half of the team's NCAA college football game against West Virginia, Saturday, Nov. 5, 2016, in Morgantown, W.Va.

Kansas coach David Beaty argues with the officials during the first half of the team's NCAA college football game against West Virginia, Saturday, Nov. 5, 2016, in Morgantown, W.Va.


— In the event you turned the TV off after Kansas was guilty of a taunting penalty on the opening kickoff, quickly followed by the standard litany of sins from the offense in the first four minutes: hold, false start and a Montell Cozart interception near the sideline, congratulations.

You saved yourself the trouble of blowing money on a new flat-screen brain-softener.

You stick around much longer than you did and there is no way you don’t rifle your remote, beer bottle or iPhone through the set, so incensed at the recurring nightmare playing out every Saturday like that flight to nowhere that never stops on one of the cooler Twilight Zone episodes.

Fourth down-and-2 at midfield. Just once, wouldn’t you like to see the so-called hurry-up offense hurry up and go for it in that situation? I don’t have to tell you what happened next. You already know. But even that — the predictable timeout to discuss what to do, thus giving the defense a chance to get its strategy in order — isn’t what would have had you standing in a long line of diehard Kansas football fans this morning, newspaper advertisement in hand to show the electronics-department sales clerk which deal you’re seeking.

No, not the timeout, rather the decision reached during it is what would have flipped your lid. Not a single person among the 56,343 who watched West Virginia school Kansas, 48-21, at Milan Puskar Stadium could have guessed that Kansas coach David Beaty would neither go for it nor send punter Cole Moos onto the field to boot West Virginia into bad field position.

Instead, Beaty opted for a mix of the two, a play that carried a much higher risk than having Moos kick and a much smaller potential reward than running a play, maybe even a running play, for a first down. Not cool to run the ball, I know, but shocking the opponent sometimes works.

Not that the play for which Beaty called a timeout didn’t come with shock value. It did, all right. I’m stalling, I know, but it’s for good reason. I’m delaying the horror of reliving what I witnessed as long as I possibly can.

Deep breath. Ready, set, go!

Beaty had the go-for-it personnel on the field. Cozart stood in the shotgun. Mesa Ribordy snapped the football to him. And Cozart punted. Out of bounds at the 23. The thinking: Cozart boots the ball in bounds and it rolls, at best pinning West Virginia inside its 10.

That’s if the quarterback perfectly executes a play well outside of his comfort zone. The chances of that happening are lower than either Taylor Martin or Ke’aun (5.4 yards per carry going into the night) Kinner running for the first down. Cave-man football, I know. But the game was played hours before we all turned our clocks back, except those who arrived at church an hour early this morning, and since they were there anyway, decided to pray for a junior-college or graduate-transfer quarterback, so maybe just a little turn-back-the-clock football on fourth-and-2 might have made sense, just this once? No? OK, I’ll grab my roasted dinosaur leg and head back into my cave to duck from bats. (Incidentally, covering Kansas football in the post-Todd Reesing years, I’ve developed quite the fear of flying objects, particularly pigskins.)

Don’t get me wrong, the quick kick was nowhere near as infuriating as Charlie Weis pressing the fake-punt button with brutal field position and then trying to say it was punter Trevor Padula’s call. Not even in the same galaxy as that pearl, but it did trigger the memory of that desperate act during a losing streak that has Kansas football scratching that seven-year itch, wondering what it would be like to fulfill a fantasy and win a road game, just once.

Beaty explained the quick-kick decision: “We wanted to take an opportunity to see if we could get them to jump offsides and get the easy first and still keep our guys on the field. I would have liked to see a better punt, maybe get further down in there, but you know they’ve been a high-pressure punt team all year. Little concerned about that pressure, so it was a way for us to take some of that pressure off and get the ball off cleanly and not give up a block.”

Certainly, it wasn't the reason the official road losing streak reached 40, which is another way of saying the Jayhawks have lost their last 43 games played outside of Lawrence because three setbacks to Missouri were played at Arrowhead Stadium, a neutral site.

Ironically, that losing streak has masked the severity of the state of KU football during all but a portion of the first year of the Obama Administration. It has done so because it hints that at least part of the solution lies in learning how to win on the road. Not so. It’s learning how to win, period.

Starting with Game No. 1 of the official road losing streak, 34-30 in Boulder, Col., Oct. 17, 2009, KU has played 66 Big 12 football games, posting a 3-63 record. That’s not what win-loss records look like. It's what snap counts sound like.

Oh well, at least Carter Stanley pepped up the offense in relief of Montell Cozart (concussion symptoms) and gives Iowa State an extra QB about whom to worry.

— See what people were saying about KU's matchup against West Virginia during’s live coverage.

More news and notes from the loss at West Virginia


Layne Pierce 5 years, 9 months ago

What really is maddening is asking yourself, just what is the plan? Instead of trying to be cute, why don't we do fundamental things remotely well. Penalties, not running the ball, even when its obvious, trying stupid desperation plays. Well, we get the picture.

What is the plan that eventually in 3 or 4 years we will automatically recruit enough players who can play the jailbreak? I really like Beatty, but I don't see any plan to do the fundamentals. Of course we are going to get beat in the immediate future, but must we add to it by a display of fundamentally unsound, desperation. Even losers can do things the right way to get ready to be winners. We are installing a culture of losing, and we seem hellbent on adding to it by being our own worst enemies.

I frankly believe that a good coach, analyzes the players that he has, and makes something up that works for them. The hell with style points.

We have actually beaten Wichita State again, oops, that is we have beaten the record for most road losses in a row, a record held by a team that does not even have a football team anymore, but then hey, I guess we don't either.

Jack Hoff 5 years, 9 months ago

Well they ran the ball 37 times so not sure where you are going with that one. This makes no sense. Do you go to the teams practices everyday to see what fundamentals they work on? In fact did you even watch the game? Maybe you missed the part where the announcer said Ku was the least penalized team in the Big 12 going into the game. Thats right even better than God Synder's team next door who everyone seems to love. So I'm sure they practice fundamentals. Teams have bad games, just ask Baylor. For being an undermanned, undersized, inexperienced team, they've actually handled "fundamentals" quite well. Don't be a prisoner of the moment, that's one of the few spots they have tangibly improved in this year is reducing penalties which Beaty dais was a major focus of his. So explain to me how Beaty is installing a losing culture? That's a new one for me.

Doug Cramer 5 years, 9 months ago

So lets go back to the fall of 2009, when a good percentage of KU fans were "happy" to hear about Mangino's investigation.

Hate to say it, but this is what we deserve. We fire a coach who brought the program out from the dead of Terry Allen, wins a National Coach of the Year, and an Orange Bowl with 2 star players. I'm still pissed.

Thanks Lou...this is your legacy.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

Three unconventional hires, one by Perkins, led us down the path of destruction: Good Guy, middle-of-the-pack MAC coach Turner Gill, followed by fired, failed HC with an ego bigger than his belt Charlie Weis, followed by Good Guy, inexperienced position coach. Not one of these guys would have been hired at any other P5 program in the country.

None of them had experience building up a program and all three took wildly different approaches at KU which added up to inconsistent recruiting efforts, restarts in offensive philosophies and personnel every two or three years. Add it up and you get - nothing because the sums don't add up. And you lose the support of fans because none of the three coaches have anything in their resumes that suggest that we should keep the faith, and trust in the process.

It's a clown show.

Jay Scott 5 years, 9 months ago

Bull. Gill was a hot commodity. Husker fans wished they had hired him instead of Pelini.

Sometimes it's hard to tell if you're really that clueless or just spreading disinformation. Typical Clinton supporter....

Enough of the same moronic rant... Please.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

You stalk me like DT stalks his own daughter.

Jay Scott 5 years, 9 months ago

Brett, I'm an equal opportunity mocker of idiocy. Youre just the runaway volume leader.

If you'd stop saying asinine things. I would have the opportunity to point it out.

Greg Ledom 5 years, 9 months ago

Jay, with all due respect, God Osborne could have hired Gill and chose Pelini. That should have told Perkins everything he needed to know. It didn't, and we paid the price (no pun intended) to the tune of a guaranteed 5 year $2MM a year contract. That was the bigger mistake than even hiring Gill.

Bville Hawk 5 years, 9 months ago

"Gill was a hot commodity."

Talk about a moronic statement... Get your history right.

Michael Lorraine 5 years, 9 months ago

As much as I like Mangino and what he did for this program he was an explosion waiting to happen. If Lew doesn’t can him Zenger does, just like Iowa State did. I don’t know if Nebraska wanted Gill but I’m pretty sure Auburn wanted him. The reason they passed is his wife is white and a mixed race marriage in Alabama is not conducive to recruiting.

I’m sure I’m in the minority but given Mangino’s inevitable departure, firing Gill was the biggest mistake we’ve made during this coaching carousel. Gill was a good recruiter and at the very least I think he could have assembled a competitive roster but we were two years removed from the Mangino era and I don’t believe we realized the path we were heading down and how detrimental another coaching change would be. Zenger, whether he wanted to fire him or not had little choice without risking alienating the alumni.

With each firing the list of candidates becomes smaller and less attractive and we are reduced to hiring a Charlie Weis and a guy whose last job was a receivers coach.

Greg Ledom 5 years, 9 months ago

Short of Gill being able to recruit (I'll give him that), every other aspect of his program management was a disaster. Chucking him early was the best thing we could have done. Following Gill's chucking with Weis' hiring........strike 3, your out! And so is our program for at least 5 years.

Maria Ungaro 5 years, 9 months ago

Tom, can you add 2 more players to the Gassers list. 1) Quiz Gonzalez- His dropped ball in the 1quarter may have been a TD. Seem to play with no passion. Maybe just frustrated his aggies lost to miss st.

2) Kick off team. Opening penalty, slow down the field, gave up big yards, & kicking off out of bounds. All poor play gave WV excellent field position.

I'm guessing Carter Stanley won't start next week bc he's a bad practice player. Nice to see a QB actually move the team down field and score

Clarence Haynes 5 years, 9 months ago

Based on penalties, especially those during the 1st qtr, KU was very short on discipline! Lack of imagination in play calling! At least kept the Mountaineers under 50 and Stanley gave us a lift!

Kevin Robert Fest 5 years, 9 months ago

It looked like the whole team had concussion-like symptoms to start the game. This team is so bad with only one win against a terrible FCS team and we get a taunting penalty on the opening kickoff I couldnt stop laughing til halftime I thought that was such a joke. The false starts on the offensive line have got to stop is anybody coaching these guys? I'm sorry if Cozart starts the rest of the season expect the rest of the season to go just about as bad as last night this guy has no decision-making skills whatsoever.

Now is the time to start getting other in players to see what we have for next year or for future years, can't do any worse than what is already out there.

David Beaty needs to take a long look in the mirror he is a terrible terrible terrible terrible coach he's a decent recruiter terrible coach.

Jay Scott 5 years, 9 months ago

Who should replace him? Bill Belichek? Knute Rockne? Now that they wasted money on those dadgum new locker rooms, they'll never have a decent program again......

Randy Bombardier 5 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, the pooch kick by Cozart was an odd call. To me it's a no Brainer. Go for it.

Steve Corder 5 years, 9 months ago

A million angles from which to discuss this program....but only one harsh reality every Sunday morning for KU fans.

The Iowa State game will tell me if the coach has "lost" the team.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

And here's the problem with that game, Iowa State has shown itself to be a far better team than KU. We always point to the ISU game as the game we can win, and the fact that it will be played in front of a good-sized AFH crowd may help, but it's ridiculous that every year we have to point to this game as our savior (which I know that you are not doing).

You are right that the game will be a measure of the belief in the boys. At OU and at WVU would have been a difficult two weeks for any team in the conference, so now we will see if the team can rally up.

One of the key things that got us here was Beaty's complete botch-job of QB management. If people don't think that the players look at the coach and wonder: why can't he pick a QB?, then those people have never played a team sport.

Beaty's path on the QB front couldn't have been simpler, yet he made it as complicated as possible. The simple and smart route?

Name Willis QB 1 early. He had "earned it". Put Cozart and Stanley into a head-to-head competition for the QB2 spot. If Willis fades, then you have a clear No. 2 to promote into the position. Simple, smart, effective.

If this team has lost faith in Beaty, I believe that you'll be able to point directly to his inexplicable QB management as the one thing that started the ball rolling.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 9 months ago

Willis had not earned the QB1 position.

It fell into his lap last fall because of an injury to the starter and ineffective play by reserves. He didn't earn it in the Spring when he didn't play. He apparently didn't earn it in camp, and his play during that fall just reinforces that appearance.

It would have been great if Willis had ridden the QB1 opportunity last fall into this fall, but he didn't. That's not Beaty's fault. That's just Ryan's performance on and off the field. Hopefully, you won't be bringing this up a decade from now like Doug's with hunt rant, or whomever's Perry Ellis rant.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

I believe that he did. He warrior through for us last year but Beaty had already put in motion his plan to change his offense and come up with his goofy - don't name a depth chart until right before the game approach. It's Beaty's fault, not Ryan's.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 9 months ago

He warriors through, but he didn't beat out anyone for the position - earned it. His play wasn't a Prescott either. It was nice that it gave you hope, but it certainly wasn't stellar, and definitely hadn't progressed since then.

And all the interceptions are Beaty's either. Ryan's not being coached to fixate on one receiver and telegraph the next pass for the defender.

Sorry, the "He wouldn't be making dumb mistakes now if he'd been starting game 1" is just way too convenient and contrived an excuse to blame the coach for players not being effective. Willis wouldn't have been throwing all those interceptions in October, because he would have been benched for it in September.

Beaty like any coach would have loved to name a starter long ago. The reality is that he doesn't have one. He's shuffling the deck chairs on ship that has a hole in the hull at this point. Maybe it gets patched, but there are much bigger problems with the program than switching QB's or even coaches will solve.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

Poor Beaty, no one can properly run his spectacular offense. MC also has had his share of TO's, so let's not put it all on Willis. Willis earned the job, Beaty telegraphed all year how we wanted a "leader" code for a coach's pet. He got it, he made his choice, now live with it.

Tired of the "woe is me" baloney. We should be better, and it starts with the coach.

Humpy Helsel 5 years, 9 months ago

We absolutely need this coach and his staff to be successful. We can't keep firing coaches every 2 or 3 years and expect anyone to take this job. Anyone out there reading this want the job? It pays well and keeps on paying even after you are fired. For me, it would take a lot more than KU pays to try to revive this program and take a beating week end and week out. BUT, with that said, the continuous flood of mental mistakes, odd calls (I actually would have legitimately punted on the 4th down and taken the field position), clock management, turnovers, stupid penalties (taunting? really?), you have to look to this head coach and his staff. Nice guy. I like him. But I think, Tom, you got pretty close today, and understandably so, of saying this guy might be in over his head.

The only way to clean house if it has to be done again, is to take out the AD and bring in a new one. We can actually attract solid AD candidates. You would have to work closely with HCBS because you do not want anyone he doesn't feel comfortable with. Then, a new AD can bring fresh evaluation to the mess and make what changes he or she believes needs to be made. New chancellor and new AD. It is a start. If the league goes south over the next few years, and if our football program isn't at least respectable, it becomes a liability on our resume because outside of Lawrence, Kansas, and a few other locations, football is king.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

Here are three names (one courtesy of Tom Keegan). I think the first two would definitely take the job. I think the third would at least consider it:

Troy Calhoun - Air Force Career winning record, does more with less because of the requirements of the Academy, would immediately build confidence in the fan base.

Craig Bohl - Wyoming Former NDSU coach, has Wyoming at 7-2 this year. Has been to Lawrence, coached at Nebraska, knows the territory.

Ed Orgeron - LSU Struggled at Ole Miss, so a deeper look at that would be necessary. From Louisiana so he'd have tons of recruiting connections in Houston and Louisiana, which would keep us moving forward in the same recruiting areas. Apparently he is a high-level recruiter.

Hir a proven coach like Bohl or Calhoun and the fan base will settle in for 5 years minimum. Continue to make goofball hires, and we'll continue to look for new coaches every two years.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 9 months ago

Ed is a pipe dream. No way he goes any place that isn't winning or steeped in tradition to build on.

Bohl would be a fit. He at least know how to coach 60 man rosters, knows about beating an FBS team most seasons, though I'm guessing we can't schedule enough also rans to get anywhere near winning even with him as a coach. I wonder if he ever expressed interest in or turned down our program in the past?

Calhoun is obviously a good fit at Air Force, and there will always be fans happy about new shiny toys, but I'd question whether there is anyone that will win in less than 2 years with our 60 man roster playing Big12 teams.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

No one will, which is why I pointed these guys out as the types guys the fan base would stick with for the 5 years it would take to get us there.

I agree that Oregon would be a long shot, but he was fired before, passed over by USC and will be passed over by LSU. He might take the job.

Michael Lorraine 5 years, 9 months ago

Hope we don't fire Beaty but if we do my vote goes to Bohl. Knows how to win with less talent.

Lee Henry 5 years, 9 months ago

Been following the Jayhawks since the Charlie Hoag days...but can no longer watch them anymore Beatty just doesn't get a QB that moves the team down field not across it...time to give another QB the ball....or bring back Mangino.....

Dirk Medema 5 years, 9 months ago

You've apparently missed the games when the other QB's played, including the Spring Game.

Cozart is an FCS QB. He plays alright in games at that level of competition (maybe why he's a good practice player?), but isn't effective in P5 competition.

There was some hope that Willis might be the answer, but 7 interceptions in 2 games kills that idea (for all but a couple diehards that still blame the coach).

Maybe Stanley is the answer. Unfortunately, before the 4th quarter, there really hadn't been any sign that he was. It is true that there wasn't a big sample set, and he is still a RSF.

I think Beaty gets it, at least a lot more than you give him credit for. Unfortunately, Beaty doesn't have it - a QB that moves the team down the field. Maybe there is a redshirting freshmen that could be it, but most freshmen aren't going to walk in a turn around a program. Even an elite QB would be unlikely to walk in and turn around our short handed program. 2 years in, we're still 20 players short of a full team. Our O-line starts 2 freshmen walk-ons, and 3 walk-ons total.

Unfortunately, Mangino was the one that started pile driving the program into the ground. Lew may have helped bring it to light and built a circus bigtop around it, but the big guy was the original author of this story.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

What is your evidence that Beaty gets it? You keep on blaming the kids, I'll stick with the coach.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 9 months ago

From the big E - Kansas QBs have a 29.9 Total QBR, which is second-lowest among Power 5 teams and sixth-lowest in the FBS.

There are not easy or obvious answers if you actually have to enact them - only from armchairs and keyboards.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

Who designed the offense? Who calls the plays? Who fired the O.C.? Who is the new O.C.? Who was in charge of recruiting the past two years? Who was in charge of player evaluation? Who coached Willis for nearly a full season, evaluated him and still had him as co-QB1? Was it Willis or Cozart?

Snyder won 5 games his second season in charge of probably the worst football program in FBS history (yeah, I know there was no FBS at the time). Mason won 4. Mangino won 6. This is year two, Beaty owns it. Quit shifting the blame for improvement on the kids. We should be better offensively. We are not. The coach is responsible for finding improvement.

Steve Corder 5 years, 9 months ago

At this juncture in year two a coach should make a difference. The odds of a 2 win season is against the Jayhawks, and a two year record of 1-23 cannot be blamed primarily on the talent.

Okay, remove the "primarily" from the above.

Chuck Woodling 5 years, 9 months ago

Former Kansas AD Bob Marcum said: "it's not whether you win or lose, but who gets the blame." KU has become the laughingstock of Power 5 football because of weak leadership from the chancellor on down. A total housecleaning is inevitable. It's just a matter of when. Sadly, that time will probably be later than sooner.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 9 months ago

You are exactly correct. We get a new Chancellor next year, who will have the big responsibility to re-build the University academically and athletically, sans basketball.

Michael Lorraine 5 years, 9 months ago

Really, blaming the chancellor for the failings of the athletic department. That's low. If you want to go down that path we can condemn every chancellor since the university was founded because we've never had a successful football program. The current chancellor and her successor will inherit the failings of all of his/her predecessors. Let's start by renaming all the halls on campus that bear the names of these failures.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 9 months ago

KU has had some very good chancellors when it comes to relative academic metrics. BGL has overseen a major physical building process but everything else has been a disaster.

Naming all those buildings after mediocre chancellors has always been a irritant to me.

Bville Hawk 5 years, 9 months ago

Archie Dykes was the only chancellor I would classify as "great" in my lifetime (1952). Very detail oriented guy who nonetheless had complete grasp of the "big picture."

Brett McCabe 5 years, 9 months ago

Who else would you blame. I don't share Suzi's evaluation of BGL (please spare me the rant, Suzi), but the buck stops at the Chancellor's desk. Tom was right in writing that she probably won't do anything with football before she leaves, because she'd have to fire Zenger, which I don't think she wants to do as she leaves.

The problem we have is that we are stuck with Beaty for another year barring something crazy happening. We'll be better next year simply due to experience and a bigger roster, but nothing he does in game-planning or game-day management suggests that he is growing as a coach. Decision-making, from staffing to strategy is sorely lacking.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 9 months ago

What rant do you want me to spare you from? BGL has some redeeming qualities but the facts are the facts.

After reading about Jill and Andrew McCabe, I'm understanding the McCabe clan better.

David Williams 5 years, 9 months ago

Yes - the fundamental problem, as pointed out by Suzy on several occasions (and obvious to people familiar with higher ed), is that there is a total lack of leadership at the top at KU. There definitely needs to be a housecleaning...get rid of C-listers and bring in A-listers. KU has done it before (example: Budig), it depends if there is a willingness to make the tough choices and decisions. Until that happens, I am on the sidelines for all things KU. Up the game, and I will be back.

Michael Lorraine 5 years, 9 months ago

Because Budig's tenure pretty much represented the pinnacle of Kansas football, right?

David Williams 5 years, 9 months ago

Budig was Chancellor from 1981-1994. They went to a bowl game in 1981, his admin hired Glen Mason and turned around the program from the Val disaster...bowl games (wins) in 92 and 95, top ten finish in 95. He was with MLB by then, but he set the stage for that season. Not great, though not awful. I was also referring to KU as an institution and not simply KUFB. Currently the ship is rudderless at the top.

Layne Pierce 5 years, 9 months ago

I am not advocating firing Beatty, I want him to succeed. The problem is that he is totally focused on tactics (jailhouse), when we also need to think strategy. The one thing that Mason and Mangino stressed was discipline, if you violated the team concept, and did not carry out your assignments, you went to the bench, maybe for a long time. They also both really demanded fundamentals. For whatever reason, this team does not seem to be very good at fundamentals. If we could hire Urban Meyer away from Ohio State, or Saban from Alabama, do you think they would come here and allow a disregard for doing the winning things?

I just wonder if you asked him today, would Beatty be able to tell you, how he thinks this gets solved? Just keep recruiting until a miracle happens? Coaches have to have discipline also.

When you have a team with the lack of talent that we have, you simply cannot beat yourself, nor can you try to do what you physically aren't capable of. We should be using every thing we can to make the games shorter, we did run more, and we should, and our pass patterns should not require multiple reads, our line simply is not good enough for that.

A lot has been said already about qb play, and I am just going to say that if Cozart is your QB, then make the offense work for him. Don't try to get him to be Tom Brady, it won't happen. And for sure, now is the time to give lots of people a chance to play. Iowa State is our only chance this year, for another win, but after that, play everybody.

John Smith 5 years, 9 months ago

While KU hasn't had a good football program throughout it's history, it really hasn't been bad either. Just in the last 25 years, KU finished the season ranked in the top 10 twice and is 5-1 in bowl games. That not an embarrassing record.

What is embarrassing is the post-Mangino period. I wish we could find a really good coach who would be willing to come here and see KU as a challenge to show how good he really is and what he could do with a down and out program, but understandably, I guess, most coaches of great quality want to go to a top school. It would be like trying to get Bill Self to go coach someplace like TCU. Why would he?

Andy Tweedy 5 years, 9 months ago

I can't agree with your assessment that only post-Mangino has been embarrassing. In reality, we've had two good hires in the last 6 and maybe 7 coaches. Valesenti was taking the team to new depths when Mason came along and gave us a few good years. After that, it's been Mangino and a bag of crap (I'm reserving judgment on Beaty). It's a tough spot, good coaches like Mason, who have no real ties, aren't here for the long haul, and our revolving door of coaches surely isn't enticing anybody with a solid resume. I'm sick of it, gotta believe in Beaty or it's just going to be more of the same.

David Williams 5 years, 9 months ago

As noted previously, part of the problem with recruitment and retention of a high-quality coach and staff is that they do not want to be under C-list administrators, when they have been around much better. The housecleaning has to happen at the top, then the rest should take care of itself. That is the root of the issue.

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