Originally published December 9, 2016 at 10:27a.m., updated December 9, 2016 at 08:16p.m.

KU basketball player Carlton Bragg accused of pushing woman down stairs, pleads not guilty; won’t be allowed to play

Kansas forward Carlton Bragg Jr. (15) fights for position between Indiana guard Josh Newkirk (2) and Indiana forward Juwan Morgan (13) during the first half of the Armed Forces Classic at Stan Sheriff Center, on Friday, Nov. 11, 2016 in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Kansas forward Carlton Bragg Jr. (15) fights for position between Indiana guard Josh Newkirk (2) and Indiana forward Juwan Morgan (13) during the first half of the Armed Forces Classic at Stan Sheriff Center, on Friday, Nov. 11, 2016 in Honolulu, Hawaii.


University of Kansas basketball player Carlton Bragg Jr. was arrested and charged with battery on Friday, after reportedly striking a woman and pushing her down the stairs. He pleaded not guilty later the same day.

Bragg, 20, is a 6-foot-10-inch sophomore forward from Cleveland, and a 2015 McDonald’s High School All-American, according to the KU men’s basketball roster.

In light of Friday’s incident, Bragg will not play in Saturday’s game against the University of Nebraska, head coach Bill Self said Friday evening, in a statement. Self did not say how long the suspension would last.

“Carlton and I have spoken,” Self said. “He certainly understands the circumstances surrounding this issue. We are taking this charge very seriously; we’re going to hold him out from competition as we continue to gather facts.”


Douglas County Sheriff's Office

Carlton Bragg Jr.

Bragg was charged in Douglas County District Court with one count of battery, a misdemeanor, according to the District Attorney’s Office. He pleaded not guilty Friday afternoon, appearing in court via video from the Douglas County Jail.

Bragg’s bond was set at $500, and he was released from jail later that afternoon. As a condition of his release, Bragg is to have no contact with the alleged victim in the case.

Bragg’s attorney, Hatem Chahine, said Bragg had no criminal history and would cooperate with the court process.

“I assure you he wants to get this resolved,” Chahine said.

Chahine said in court and reiterated to reporters after the hearing that Bragg has no desire to contact the alleged victim.

“He has no problems with following the no-contact order in this case,” Chahine said.

Chahine is a partner with the Fletcher Rohrbaugh and Chahine law firm, with offices in Lawrence and Olathe. He said he took the case Friday and declined to answer who reached out to him or elaborate more on the battery allegations.

Bragg’s charges stemmed from a 911 call placed about 1 a.m. Friday, according to an announcement from District Attorney Charles Branson.

Lawrence police responded, and the caller told officers that her boyfriend struck her and pushed her down stairs during an argument in the 1000 block of Emery Road, Branson said. That area of Emery Road, near the KU campus, is home to several apartment buildings and fraternity and sorority houses.

Bragg was suspected of using alcohol and drugs, according to the front page of the Lawrence Police Department’s report. The report indicated that the victim’s injuries were not severe.

She is a KU student, according to the university directory.

Battery is knowingly or recklessly causing bodily harm to another person, or causing physical contact with another person in a rude, insulting or angry manner, according to the Kansas statute.

The crime is punishable by a fine or jail time up to six months.

Bragg was booked into jail about 6 a.m. Friday, initially on suspicion of domestic battery, according to Douglas County Sheriff’s Office records.

However, Branson noted that the relationship between Bragg and the victim did not meet the statutory requirements for domestic battery.

Under the state’s domestic battery statute, a girlfriend would only qualify if she and the suspect lived together, had lived together in the past, had a child together or if she was pregnant and the suspect was alleged to be the father.

Separate from criminal proceedings, Bragg could face discipline by KU if he were found to have violated university rules.

Leaders from the KU police department and KU student affairs department were seen entering the district attorney’s office shortly before Bragg’s hearing on Friday, but they were not present in the courtroom. KU public affairs representatives did not respond Friday to a Journal-World inquiry asking whether university officials were investigating the incident.

However, according to KU’s Code of Student Rights and Responsibilities, intimate partner violence violates the code, and students found responsible for it could be subject to discipline whether the violence occurred on campus or off. KU has jurisdiction to investigate and adjudicate such complaints if they involve two students and the alleged violence affects one’s on-campus safety, according to the code.

KU also considers dating or intimate partner violence a form of sexual harassment under Federal Title IX and related federal rules, according to the university’s sexual harassment and sexual violence procedure document. Title IX prohibits sex-based discrimination in education and requires universities to investigate and adjudicate reports of sexual harassment and sexual violence on their campuses.

In such cases, university investigators determine responsibility for violations based on a preponderance of the evidence, meaning allegations are more likely than not to have occurred. Courts of law convict when a suspect is determined to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Bragg’s next court appearance is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. Dec. 27.


Steve Zimmerman 5 years, 11 months ago

Yep... Bragg was suspected of using alcohol and drugs... I hope the report is not true..otherwise, he's done alright...

Kent Richardson 5 years, 11 months ago

If the drugs and alcohol use is true, especially drugs, then it's bad news. Considering the fact the complaining parties frequently drop their claims it becomes the main issue.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 11 months ago

Not sure how many times it's been said but nothing good seems to happen after midnight.

Jack Hoff 5 years, 11 months ago

Hopefully its all a big misunderstanding. Otherwise this will likely be the end of Carlton Bragg. Really surprising to hear this from him who seems to be a character guy. While he should certainly be granted due process, if all reports are true, he should be off the team. No room for that kind of behavior.

Eliott Reeder 5 years, 11 months ago

Foolish. Maybe take some of your aggression out on available rebounds next time, CB.

Keith Gellar 5 years, 11 months ago

can't say that i'm surprised. he's a great guy but just can't control his emotions. it was bound to happen.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

You've spent a significant amount of time with him?

Joe Ross 5 years, 11 months ago

I bet he hasn't spent time with you either, and yet we all know you're an @$$ who can't control his emotions.

Maybe Bragg is innocent. Maybe he's guilty. We don't know. But perhaps the reason you so reflexively run to his defense is because you've come to live in a habit of defending your own indefensible behavior on these boards. And perhaps in your life...

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

"Defend"? smh.. Joe, you poor thing. I surrender. People are sick of this.

I saw your hate filled explosion a week or so ago and gave it the attention it deserved, which is none. Let's look at the two most salient points in your ongoing lunacy..

Once again you made the hilarious claim that Perry Ellis has the same skills package as Harrison Barnes. As I'm hopelessly stuck in that group with every NBA coach, scout and GM, every sports media person and every college coach that sees your ideas as moronic, and realize that they've never played the same position, I'll refer you to another authority.

The Dallas Mavericks. They had both on their roster. They cut one and gave the other a max deal. Go here to engage in your insanity with them. You can attack Cuban, Nelson, Carlisle and the gang. They'll possibly be so impressed with your misquoted scripture, misapplied Doobie Brothers lyrics and revelation that Italian wine is actually imported that if they don't hire you as assistant GM, you might become Cuban's sommelier...good luck. You can also rant on various DFW area media. You won't be missed.

Secondly you claimed that you never inferred that they had the same potential. Joe, that's a complete lie. You, yourself used Barnes as a benchmark of Ellis' NBA potential in the leadup to the draft. What else would you have people believe you were getting at? Their comparative fashion sense? Their singing talent?

You're an unashamed liar Joe.

Be gone. You're proven that you have serious emotional problems in addition to your absolute absence of hoops knowledge.

<p> They're where you need to be.

Sae Thirtysix 5 years, 11 months ago

JScott & JRoss - getting interesting. Yet, can we get back to the topic at hand? Mr. CBragg

Micky Baker 5 years, 11 months ago

Coming from someone who used his emotions on the cheerleader issue. Joe, you're not the most intelligent or honest person here. I'm not a fan of Jay Scott all the time either, but you're one of the biggest asses here. The way you said I wasn't being rational talking about KU colors on the sweaters and all that, while you implied that it meant something more than the colors and the letter on the sweater based on nothing but your emotions. Stop being pretentious.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 11 months ago

Petty comment Joe. Your comment is far more emotional than Jay's. Jay is a master of getting people to react and seems to have gotten just what he wants. Point goes to Jay.


Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 11 months ago

It surprised me. What info led you to believe he can't control his emotions. In his time here at KU, how many technical fouls has he been charged with? Has there been other articles written about him having a short fuse or do you guys have a personal relationship.

If you knew this was bound to happen, why didn't you call the athletic department and try to get Carlton some help?

Robert Brock 5 years, 11 months ago

Maybe he has a crazy Cousin Eddie who came to visit for the holiday.

Harlan Hobbs 5 years, 11 months ago

Come on people. Let's wait for the facts before rushing to judgment.

This seems so out of character for Carlton, so let's just cool our jets for a moment.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 11 months ago

Jay with the jab, Joe with the dodge and uppercut. TKO!

Tim Orel 5 years, 11 months ago

I accidentally flagged this, but apparently I can't undo that. I would remove the flag if I could. However, really, with this wording, in this article about a real world domestic violence dispute? You have better word choices to use. Still, not worth removal. I apologize for the flag.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 11 months ago

You're right inappropriate but it was in regards to Joe and Jay attacking each other in the post. My bad.

RJ King 5 years, 11 months ago

Boys, boys, boys. C'mon. This is not the time to fight. This news makes me sad. Even if just a misunderstanding. Really hope this gets straightened out and team can focus.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 11 months ago

I hate to be the one spreading rumors on this site but the word around campus is that Bragg was at a frat party, got really messed up and hit a girl. If this is true, Bragg will probably be suspended for several games. Since this is the first incident and he has been a stellar citizen, I seriously doubt Self will kick him off the team, assuming he's truly repentant. However, it's probably up to the girls as much as anyone what happens.

In any event, my bet is Self will be spending a lot more time practicing the 4-guard lineup over the break.

Jay Hawkinson 5 years, 11 months ago

ESPN and others are reporting that the victim was a family member, but don't specify anything more than that. I guess both of these things could be true.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 11 months ago

If he hit a girl, he should be suspended for the balance of the season, not several games.

But, as you said, let's not spread rumors. I trust that Self and Co. will get to the bottom of it and identify the most constructive path possible going forward.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 11 months ago

It's what is all over campus now. As with so many other cases involving the team, those campus rumors often turn out to have quite a bit of truth associated with them. In a way, it's probably good the team is so integrated in campus life and they are often great role models. However, things happen when people get 'messed up. '

Mike Greer 5 years, 11 months ago

If this is indeed the case, and we'll have to wait and see if it is, the two most recent Big XII examples that come to mind are football players at OU and OSU, the first was out for the season and the incident was prior to the season starting, and the second was off the team completely. Even these were different circumstances from each other, and this may be different entirely, but if true, it isn't good news.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 11 months ago

I would hope Bragg wouldn't do such a thing, but in my opinion, again I say my opinion, I think if this holds as true he should be dismissed from the team. He represents the University and going to a frat party and getting "messed up" holds no excuse for hitting a female. It may be his first mistake, but it's a pretty darn big one.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 11 months ago

I agree. I do not want to see Kansas become the Ravens or Giants of college basketball for allowing woman-beaters a roster spot.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 11 months ago

Throwing sh** just to see where it lands? Every NFL team has had to deal w/these issues. The old boys club rules are no longer in effect.

The NBA is no better.

Adam Collins 5 years, 11 months ago

For everyone's reference:

Battery is a criminal offense involving the unlawful physical acting upon a threat, distinct from assault which is the act of creating apprehension of such contact.

In the United States, criminal battery, or simply battery, is the use of force against another, resulting in harmful, offensive or sexual contact.[1] It is a specific common law misdemeanor, although the term is used more generally to refer to any unlawful offensive physical contact with another person, and may be a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the circumstances.

Len Shaffer 5 years, 11 months ago

Damn! And just when things were going so well ...

Barry Weiss 5 years, 11 months ago

wow, this is so unfortunate for the young lady and for Carlton. I tend to think Coach Self will be fairly harsh on the penalty, depending on the facts. Anywhere from several games suspended to off the team. Nothing good happens with athletes or most people in general when alcohol is consumed and its after midnight. Dang it, we needed him and he needed us. And the young lady should never be hit.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 11 months ago

There is a lot of wisdom to a curfew. As the alcohol adds up, everybody starts down the bad judgement path. 95% of the "bad stuff" happens in the 1am to 3am window. It's as true now as it was when I was at KU.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

A curfew. That's the NAZI response......take away everyone's freedom.

Barry Weiss 5 years, 11 months ago

I understand Jay, but athletes represent their school in ways that a regular student may not. I think they do need to be held to a somewhat higher standard and understand that putting on that Kansas jersey means they may have to give up some of the things other students do, such as late night partying.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

Barry. You're a cool guy. What on earth does how an athlete represents a school have to do with taking away the rights of everyone on campus?

If Coach Self wants to set limits on players, that's his and their business...and a great way to kill recruiting. Would a Dean's list player with exemplary character no longer be allowed late night shooting practice?

It's the same NAZI logic that suggests flushing the 2nd Amendment because there are muggings in bad areas.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 11 months ago

Jay, as a college athlete, especially at a well known D1 school, you give up a lot of privileges, whilst also gaining a lot. One of the privileges you give up though is privacy. Everyone knows what you do, and this doesn't just cause issues for the player but for the school they're representing. And unfortunately for Bragg, KU is bigger than him. So my point is, KU basketball players may be celebrities, but they can tumble just as far as they can rise. It's the business, whether it's right or not.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

All good points...and no reason for a curfew on everyone else on campus.

Barry Weiss 5 years, 11 months ago

Jay, I did not mean for everyone on campus to have a curfew, just the athletes. I really don't know if they do that or not, but if I were a coach, I would. And you are right, it probably would hurt my recruiting. What is the drinking age in Kansas now, back it the old days, you could drink 3.2 beer at 18 and "the good stuff" 5.0 and liquor could not be purchased until you were 21. Anyway, there has to be a way a coach can try to protect his team from drinking and getting into fights, etc. This is just a real bummer.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

I think this is on the other players. They know what's going on. The upperclassmen need to be managing the younger ones who get off track.

Barry Weiss 5 years, 11 months ago

agree. well, our remaining bigs need to really step up now. None have the mid-range jumper like Bragg.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 11 months ago

NAZI? My goodness you are the dumbest a-hole on this board.

But you are my stalker, and no one else's. Not even Joe's.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

As clueless and dishonest as he is, Joe says nowhere near the number of truly idiotic things you do.

A curfew is just your latest. Yes it is a NAZI mentality solution.

Rant on.....

Bryce Landon 5 years, 11 months ago

He needs us more than we need him. Leave him on the team, and we are no better than the Baltimore Ravens or the New York Giants in their handling of woman-beaters. For the sake of our program's integrity, Carlton has to be shown the door.

Rae Bricil 5 years, 11 months ago

i believe there was 80k at arrowhead cheering a person that had committed DV as well. so please dont leave the chiefs, cubs or a number of other teams off that list.

Dale Rogers 5 years, 11 months ago

Gee, we don't even know what really happened. He pleaded not guilty. By law and conscious he is innocent until proven guilty. If he's guilty then he should suffer appropriate punishment. If innocent, he deserves absolution. Let's wait until we have the facts and the court makes its decision.

In the past, if nobody was seriously hurt then the player was given a second chance. And I doubt any of you, or I, would not want to be given a chance to fly right. If the circumstances dictate then I'd expect him to be dismissed from the team. Otherwise, I'd expect him to get that second chance, if he's in fact guilty, that so many other players all over this country have been given. And not just athletes. Many people working regular jobs are on their second chance as well.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 11 months ago

Bryce Landon "I agree. I do not want to see Kansas become the Ravens or Giants of college basketball for allowing woman-beaters a roster spot."

Didn't get enough responses from your first post? And who is "we"? Are you on the team?

"For the sake of our program's integrity, Carlton has to be shown the door".

I think the Athletic Dept. and HCBS should make that decision. If Self gives Carlton a 2nd chance, are you going stand on principle and no longer comment on the basketball team? If not, you're either a hypocrite or complicit.

Scott Proch 5 years, 11 months ago

I have been so eager to see this young man with the seemingly unwavering positive attitude progress. Now I'm brokenhearted that, guilty or not he has ventured into this situation. I'm positive HCBS will not allow KU to be the type of place where this goes unpunished and that's how it should be. Praying for all involved this afternoon

Henry Joseph Hofmeister 5 years, 11 months ago

Agreed 100% Scott. I have been rooting for him and Landen to get the game together all season. This could've been a stellar team. We have THE guard lineup, THE outside 3 shooters, JUST MISSING THE DOWNTOWN.

Micky Baker 5 years, 11 months ago

I won't rush to judgment. I can picture a lot of ways it can happen, but they would all be speculation. But, you can be damn sure if someone get's in my face thinking they can do that because I'm an "athlete", that I'm not going to pretend that I don't have the right to defend myself and get myself out of the situation. Simply walking by and pushing someone hands down who is trying to hold you so you don't move would be considered battery by its definition. But, that is speculation and those that "represent" the University are held to a higher standard than the accusers are even willing to hold themselves to. It happens in this patty cake society.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

From KC Star. (Why are they scooping the LJW?)

Seems he allegedly hit his girlfriend and she tumbled down some stairs. Bail was set at $500. He plead not guilty, bail was paid and he was released.

Much more to be uncovered no doubt.......

Matt Tait 5 years, 11 months ago

Your comment was 20 minutes ago and our last update on the story was 20 minutes ago... Maybe you were commenting as we were updating it?

Either way, it's all in there now and more to come.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

It is. They've got good people in Newell and Bedore over there...they're gonna be first sometimes.

Josh Galler 5 years, 11 months ago

did you saw his mug shot he was smiling

David Davison 5 years, 11 months ago

Yeah. I hope that means this is a BS charge. Really disappointed otherwise.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 11 months ago

You lay your hands on a woman like that, and shove her down the stairs, you have no business wearing that KANSAS jersey ever again.

Dale Rogers 5 years, 11 months ago

Well, I can think of a lot of situations where that should not apply. If anyone, woman or man, is coming at me with a knife, for instance, I'm not standing there to take it. She, or he, can scream assault because if I'm a public figure (I'm not) they figure they can get back at me by going public. And maybe they even want a payoff. So let's not jump to conclusions. If he's guilty, he'll be punished. Why on earth would we not want to publicly convict someone just because someone said they did something? Let's wait and see if he really did it.

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 11 months ago

Post 1 "I agree. I do not want to see Kansas become the Ravens or Giants of college basketball for allowing woman-beaters a roster spot."

Post 2 "He needs us more than we need him. Leave him on the team, and we are no better than the Baltimore Ravens or the New York Giants in their handling of woman-beaters. For the sake of our program's integrity, Carlton has to be shown the door."

Post 3 "You lay your hands on a woman like that, and shove her down the stairs, you have no business wearing that KANSAS jersey ever again."

Gee Bryce, you're a little repetitive. Got ANYTHING new to contribute?

Rae Bricil 5 years, 11 months ago

there is still an "if" he did it. He is not guilty yet.

Tyler Capone 5 years, 11 months ago

Smiling in a mugshot after being accused of pushing a woman down the stairs after a drunk night is not a good look

Barry Weiss 5 years, 11 months ago

ya, that is not cool. Well, I'd say he is at least out until conference play if he still is on the team.

Micky Baker 5 years, 11 months ago

He's entitled to due process people! He has a right to face all witnesses in court and the burden of proof is on the accuser, if it goes to trial. Bragg's attorney should demand a trial immediately and drag this out. Bragg has the right to a quick trial and a jury.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

I have a suspicion from the tone of some of these statements that this is less serious than it might have seemed. Let's hope for everyone's sake that it is.

Mallory Briggans 5 years, 11 months ago

As much as i hate to hear about Braggs im am not hear to judge him ......Yes he put himself in a bad situation ......but Bragg may have things going on in his life that none of us are aware of......if you remember he said himself he was not focused on basketball which affected his play earlier in the season......more important than basketball is him getting the help he needs if that is the case.....he also needs support from those who care most about most ......his family and his teamates as well as coaches and sure he is a good kid.......but he is not immuned to the bad things that goes along with college life......poor judgement may take away what he loves most .....i hope and pray that what ever the result is .....his life wont end up with a kid with broken dreams...........So if he needs help ....Coach Self will get him the help he needs........I would rather Carlton become a better man.......a better person ........than just ballplayer lost in the wilderness............Hopefully Carlton will learn from this as well as the rest of team.. .......lts is a lesson in life which more important than basketball.

Humpy Helsel 5 years, 11 months ago

More than likely, and barring an unforeseen recant by the victim, we will not see Carlton Bragg, Jr. in a KU basketball uniform again this season. Maybe never. The political climate, which is a good one given how much this type of behavior is minimized to keep gifted athletes in competition,.and with so many Title IX issues surrounding physical and sexual assault on campuses, will ensure we won't be seeing much of Bragg for the remainder of the year. It is even possible he will be dismissed from the university, regardless, if convicted, depending on the language in the code of conduct. The no tolerance extends well beyond college into the professional ranks. Carlton's draft value just dropped significantly. On domestic related charges, including physical and/or sexual assault, schools, programs, coaches, AD's and university chancellors, cannot afford the media scrutiny and risk of appearing to provide "hand slaps" and other special allowances. Unfair. Maybe. Maybe not. But it is today's reality to error on the side of harsh consequences.

Tony Bandle 5 years, 11 months ago

CRAP!!!! I better go back to my hyperbolic chamber and sleep for another couple months!

Barry Weiss 5 years, 11 months ago

I've noticed they are really focusing on the relationship in the way they are reporting this. Making a distinction between simple battery and domestic battery. There must be more serious consequences to domestic battery, which I don't believe he was charged with.

Olympia Wilson 5 years, 11 months ago

Just realized that was his mug shot! Not cool! We will be fine without him.

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

I hope nobody you know is ever accused of anything........

Forrest Ranjer 5 years, 11 months ago

This hurts. Carlton was actually having a productive effect on the court. I'm not expecting him back, and if guilty of pushing anyone, man or woman, down a flight of stairs, he deserves the consequences unless this was not self-defense. If not guilty, we'll need some major media spin. Either way, this downgrades our potential for the season. I don't know that Colby and Lightfoot will be able to pick up his minutes, nor Dok be able to perform as well. Guess we'll see at the end of conference play. The important effort will be to not let this affect the psyche of the team too much.

Steve Macy 5 years, 11 months ago

Nothing brings comments like transgressions, alleged at that. I have no inside information, but I am amused by some experts, and their takes.

Just saw that the female accuser has been in jail since yesterday, this "case" gets stranger by the moment.

RCJH, beat NU.

Shannon Gustafson 5 years, 11 months ago

Can you provide a link to where you saw this?

Jay Scott 5 years, 11 months ago

She was released a few hours ago but not charged.(He didn't press?) She must have done something serious to be held 36+ hours. Hell hath no fury.... I'll bet that she attacked him and he pushed her away.

Shannon Gustafson 5 years, 11 months ago


Once I heard she was also in jail I had the same thought. I "hope" it's more of a case of a "get off me" shove and she stumbled down the stairs (not that it's good but it's better than giving her a straight up punch and shoving her down the stairs). We'll see how it all plays out.

RJ King 5 years, 11 months ago

Shannon, that is what my intuition told me all along - even before I learned of the girl in jail. I think this would be best case scenario for Carlton AND the girl, who fortunately is not seriously hurt. There are so many young people who learn the hard way that their relationship with alcohol has got to change. Usually it takes a wake up call like this (might be).

Again - just speculation. But I hope the story can unfold with one truth, rather than "he said / she said" versions.

Trey Hohman 5 years, 11 months ago

Why is he smiling in his mugshot? Not a good look. It's the smile of someone that either unequivocally did not commit this crime, or else he's a sociopath.

Henry Joseph Hofmeister 5 years, 11 months ago

I kinda thought two things. Either A, he thinks he's invincible or B. innocent.

RJ King 5 years, 11 months ago

Why is he smiling? I've seen plenty of teenage and college-age boys when they were either drunk, stoned, or both, and trying not to let on. To me, Carlton looks either drunk, stoned, or both.

Your scenarios are both a bit extreme. I seriously doubt this is much ado about "nothing." I doubt even more that he is a sociopath. More like a kid with really bad judgement about how much to drink or smoke, where to be, and who to be with.

Kit Duncan 5 years, 11 months ago

No question this is serious! There is reason to expect he will be permanently suspended from the team. On the other hand, this is reminiscent of Mario Little's battery charge, suspension, acceptance into a diversion program and subsequent return to the team a month after. details-mario-littles-dive/?templates=mobile

Trey Hohman 5 years, 11 months ago

Not to harp on this point, but my God, is there literally no situation where we won't see this guy smiling? It's super weird. Someone could tell Carlton that his entire family was abducted and later eaten by aliens - and he'd be like, (smiling) "ah man, that's so sad."

RJ King 5 years, 11 months ago

Are there no parents on this board who have seen plenty of teenage and college-age boys when they were either drunk, stoned, or both, and trying to act sober???

To me, Carlton looks either drunk, stoned, or both - and probably a little dazed and in disbelief that this was really happening.

We all loved the smile, but now it makes him weird? Honestly, his mugshot is no more relevant than his driver's license photo. Can we wait for the story to unfold? Then we can all sit in judgement and weigh in with our criticism.

Severeno Woods 5 years, 11 months ago

Let the facts come out like coach stated. Not guilty come back for play immediately and seperate yourself from the young lady for good. Guilty 10-15 game suspension. I believe in second chances, but I am not sure if coach would let him have his second chance at Kansas.

Harlan Hobbs 5 years, 11 months ago

First, I will apologize for not reading all of the posts for the sake of time, so some of my thoughts may be repeats of others.

Anyway, this is indeed sad and highly out of character for what we know about Carlton. That being said, if the allegations are true, then he has a significant mountain to overcome. However, Coach Self has always shone a forgiving heart for those who will mend their ways as much as possible.

Most all of these allegations have entered the KU program in the past, and I don't feel it is appropriate to mention any names. However, most of us who follow the program enthusiastically know them in rather large detail. Therefore, I am confident that, if Carlton puts forth the effort, he can remain a part of the program after a significant period of suspension. I sincerely hope that will happen.

I won't get into a dissection of the relative seriousness of each allegation, but I agree with those who call out the possible violence toward a woman as being the most troubling. There is never an excuse to physically abuse a woman, no matter the circumstances, other than perhaps self defense, which seems highly unlikely in this case.

At this point, we really don't know many more facts than we knew starting out. However, I fully trust Coach Self and the administration to do the right thing after all of the facts are known. The fact that Carlton is suspended pending further investigation is good enough for me, and I am willing to wait as long as it takes for the "dust to settle."

Mick Allen, if you are out there, I would really like to hear your thoughts on this, as I respect you and your family's love and dedication to KU, I also appreciate those who may be new posters who have chosen this article as the forum for making comments. I hope that you will continue to share your opinions.

Yonatan Negash 5 years, 11 months ago

First, post this season.

I guess I'm just as surprised as anyone else with this turn of events.

If true, can't see Bragg as part of the team going forward.

A stern message has to be sent, can't hit girls or anyone for that matter.

Otherwise, the kid will never learn. Would much rather see him lose a scholarship than end up in prison for repeating this type of behavior.

In support of a stern and firm disciplinary action.

Micky Baker 5 years, 11 months ago

She was arrested on Friday afternoon on suspicion of assault or battery and released. The Kansas City Star won't release her name, which is kind of silly. She's the accuser, and guess what, court is open to the public and she's going to have to testify in a trial which is going to happen unless she recants. If she doesn't testify, then they cannot even come close to finding him guilty. There is going to be more to this story.

Harlan Hobbs 5 years, 11 months ago

Absolutely agree, Micky. As Yogi said, it ain't over until it's over. My prediction is that Carlton will receive the appropriate penalty, that he will eventually return to full status on the team, and that he will return with a much stronger commitment to being a role model, which I thought he would be until this incident happened. I will stay positive until he proves me wrong.

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