Sunday, March 22, 2015

After season-ending loss, Jayhawks will contemplate what’s next

Kelly Oubre, Jr., left, and Brannen Greene, sit at their lockers after the Jayhawks' 78-65 loss to Wichita State Sunday, March 22, 2015 at the CenturyLink Center, in Omaha, Neb.

Kelly Oubre, Jr., left, and Brannen Greene, sit at their lockers after the Jayhawks' 78-65 loss to Wichita State Sunday, March 22, 2015 at the CenturyLink Center, in Omaha, Neb.


— Kelly Oubre, Jr., a McDonald’s All-American who arrived at Kansas University as an almost-certain one-and-done college player, shed no light on his future plans after Sunday’s 78-65 loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.

“I go to Kansas University. I have no thoughts about the future right now,” freshman wing Oubre said after scoring nine points and grabbing five rebounds in what could be his final college game.

“I’m just recovering from this tough loss to end my season. I love this university. I give this university my life. Losing the way we did is something that doesn’t sit right with me.”

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Press Conferences & Post-Game Interviews

Self, Ellis and Graham explain what went wrong in season-ending loss to WSU

Minutes after Kansas University's basketball season ended Sunday in Omaha, Jayhawks coach Bill Self, as well as players Perry Ellis and Devonté Graham, answer questions from the media about how Wichita State knocked them out of the NCAA Tournament.

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Asked by a reporter if there’s “any chance” he’ll return, Oubre said: “I go to the University of Kansas. I’m letting this loss sink in. I’m definitely not trying to think about the future right now. I’m trying to be with my brothers and let this sink in.”

Junior Perry Ellis, another McDonald’s All-American, was asked about possibly turning pro and skipping his senior season.

“I’ve not thought about that at all,” said Ellis, who had 17 points. “I’m just trying to play. I’m sad the season is over. I’m not thinking about that at all.”

Of the loss to his hometown school, Wichita native Ellis said: “It’s hard to describe. It’s tough. Your time is running out, your junior year. It’s just tough.”

Sophomore Wayne Selden, Jr., a McDonald’s All-American who has NBA aspirations, was quizzed about his future after scoring no points and grabbing a rebound with two turnovers and no assists in 23 minutes.

“I don’t have any comment on that (NBA),” Selden said. “It’s all about this team. It’s nothing about me. I’m not going to make it about me. It’s all about this team. We didn’t come out to play tonight. As a leader I take pride in that and we didn’t come to play.

“It’s not about next year,” Selden added. “We had something special this year. We have so much talent in this room right now. We have leaders. We had everything we needed. We didn’t come through. You can’t look to next year when this is still heavy on our minds and this still hurts.”

Freshman Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk told the Journal-World on Saturday he definitely would return to KU next season and not play overseas in advance of his expected entry into the 2016 NBA Draft.

Freshman Cliff Alexander, a McDonald’s All-American who was ineligible for the NCAA Tournament as the NCAA looks into possible improper benefits, is expected to turn pro, but he has made no definitive statement on his future.

More news and notes from Kansas vs. Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament

By the Numbers: Wichita State knocks out Kansas

By the Numbers: Wichita State knocks out Kansas


Suzi Marshall 7 years, 1 month ago

Having "alot of talent in the room" does not mean anything unless that talent is committed to be a team, work hard, and stay focused for an entire game. Other than the UT Austin and NMSt games, this team could not stay focused for a complete game.

I spent alot of time in Lawrence this year and heard some not so good rumors about a couple of our players. If even half true, I hope they either mature to get there act together or get out.

Rodney Crain 7 years, 1 month ago

To continue the Texas coach discussion, do you think Marshall would take the job at Texas? Other than a great arena, he would have everything you would want in a program. His skills, matched with a Top Power Conference would allow him to recruit in that talent rich environment and compete every year at a very high level.

Suzi Marshall 7 years, 1 month ago

Yes I do think he'd take the UT job. UT is an arrogant lot who believe they have the pick of Self, Bennett, Miller or Marshall.

Although UT will pay in the $4-5 MM range, basketball will always be a distant step child to football.

Rodney Crain 7 years, 1 month ago

You are so right. They made the same mistake with their Football coach search. I like Charlie but they actually believed Saban was going to leave Alabama too. All they did was secure a sweet long term contract for him.

Tom Jones 7 years, 1 month ago


UT is not delusional enough to think they can lure Self away from KU.

For Miler or Marshall (and probably Bennett), though, it'd be a step up and like you said, they'll pay what it takes.

Christopher Giordano 7 years, 1 month ago

It continues to baffle me that Coach Self consistently "holds back" talent on the bench. Why is it that he has potential like Svi and Michelson that don't see the light of day against a team that starts 4 guards and 1 forward? Year after year the Jayhawks have a plethora of talent sitting while guys like Seldon, Greene and Traylor habitually play well below their ceiling. Self has to shorten the leash with these guys and teach them the way they will only understand ... On the bench. It's hard to argue with 11 straight BigXII titles but when you exit consistently below your seed in the tournament you have to look in the mirror. When will Self develop all of his talent available towards the end result of success during the most important time of year the National Championship? Well, there is next year when the expectations are great. Final Four or bust. Will Coach Self have his team ready for the challenge? I guess we have to wait until next March. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

Walter Bridges 7 years, 1 month ago

Good questions but no answers. We should have used our size differential to dominate inside the paint but for whatever reason, we never did.

Tom Jones 7 years, 1 month ago

Did you even watch the game?

Having taller players who are relatively unskilled doesn't mean you can just "dominate the paint". WSU was more physical and tougher despite being shorter. Lucas and Mickelson are not guys with post moves. There was nothing easy in the paint.

WSU caught us without Alexander (who, like it or not, was the only guy with a shred of post presence on offense) and with Ellis clearly not himself. They took full advantage of it. Their perimeter guys were better and they made the paint a wash at best.

Priest Fontaine 7 years, 1 month ago

None of you are ready to go pro. Thats probably the most honest and truthful thing any jayhawk fan can say. Oubre, Cliff and Selden especially have no business even thinking about the NBA after this season.

William Thomas 7 years, 1 month ago

Oubre maybe has the most pure talent on this team, and suspect he could jump in ability next year if he stays, similar to Mason this past year. If he goes pro, think he'd put in most of next year in the D league, too inconsistent now.

Cliff may have no choice but to go. Too bad for him; Has to be pretty unsettling.

Seldon needs to work very hard on ball handling and shooting, and come back next year with more bounce and better skills to further enjoy college life.

Greene - hard to know how to improve his game. I think his D has improved, or Self wouldn't play him, or maybe its just that he's still better than Svi at this point.

Hope Self can lure in another quality big guy for the future. Really starting to hate One-n-done and the NBA's role in that. One year of college ball certainly doesn't do most of the young guys any favor. WSU's experience played a big role today.

Walter Bridges 7 years, 1 month ago

Nobody uses a lottery pick to put a player in the D League.

Aaron Paisley 7 years, 1 month ago

Remember last year when everyone was saying that Andrew Wiggins wasn't ready for the NBA? Apparently, nobody was ready last year since Wiggins is going to win ROY in a landslide this year. Kelly's obviously not as good as Wiggins, but Kelly is ready to move on. You don't get better play playing against lesser competition, you get better by playing against the best players in the world.

Robin Smith 7 years, 1 month ago

Wiggins is indisputably great, but it has ended up being a very weak rookie class. The talent that was strong in the class ALL got injured. The chance of injury in the NBA is understated while the risk of injury in college is overstated. Simply put, they play more than twice as many games in the NBA season and that is taxing.

Oubre should stick around, but getting paid doesn't hurt. I think he'll be a great pro, but there is definitely an opportunity to come back with the team intact and do something special.

Robin Smith 7 years, 1 month ago

I meant all of this as just an add on to your comment, rather than a counter. I agree with you. I just hope he comes back.

Linda Peschka 7 years, 1 month ago

They all played with a lack of hunger to win the game. They were not aggressive, and at times, did not hustle. The excuses given for losing were the same ones when they lost several games during the last 3th of the season. No change. No one working to get better. A. Greene still can not play defense or handle the ball. If he is not hitting his 3-pt shots, he is useless, but Self continues to play him. B. Selden looked lost. At times he looked as if he did not even know it was a BBall game. His shooting was.....well, just HA! C. Traylor has deteriorated in his ability to hustle, rebound, and shoot. D. Oubre plays every 3th or 4th offensive play and becomes moody when pulled from a game for poor or no play. E. Graham scores 6 points rapidly then gives up 8 with his lack of defense and turnovers. F. Ellis has difficulty holding on to the ball, staying on his feet, and once he makes a good move to be open, he misses shooting the ball to the correct spot on the backboard in order to score. G. Mason has difficulty on defense, makes a nice drive to the basket but then wildly shoots the ball off the corner or too high on the backboard, and commits too many TOs. H. Coach Self is too slow to make changes in his game plan when the other team's play dictates such, and too many times has the wrong player mix on the floor.(Who is going to score and who is going to play defense to stop a team's offensive run?) The real factor for such poor play of lately, is the poor talent level of the players. And if KU does not gain better talent for 2015, then the results will be similar. THEY TALK THE TALK, BUT CAN NOT WALK THE WALK.

Jay Scott 7 years, 1 month ago

It's tough to be aggressive when you have 8 fouls in the first few minutes.

Tyson Ailshie 7 years, 1 month ago

We are far removed from the players of the '08 team. How I miss those days of having players with strong fundamentals and the skills to match, not to mention, the mental toughness, desire, leadership, and heart.

Joe Joseph 7 years, 1 month ago

Assuming Perry returns for his senior year and doesn't suffer a major injury, he's going to end up as one of the all-time greats and a top-20 scorer. If he plays next year with the same tenacity he played with down the stretch this past season (pre knee sprain) he should be an all-American and will end up with his jersey in the rafters.

With all of that said, he could potentially leave Kansas as a member of one the worst tournament classes in ku history. Perry has been bounced in the rounds of: 16, 32, and 32. That's literally the worst 3-year stretch of KU tournament performance in a long time. Maybe the last 30+ years. Even the successive first round losses to Bucknell and Bradley were sandwiched in between elite 8 runs. Roy had a long stretch when he couldn't get past the sweet sixteen, but even the sweet sixteen is a lot less disappointing than losing in the opening weekend.

Clearly, something is wrong with the system (Bill's). Whether that's the type of players he's been recruiting lately, his offensive/defensive strategies, his tournament routine, or a combination of the three. Hopefully Bill does a lot of reflecting and figures something out. It's unfortunate that so much of success is defined by what you do in the tournament. That's the case, however. And KU and Bill Self have been really bad the last few years.

Tyson Ailshie 7 years, 1 month ago

It's players, isn't it? I mean, you bring up Roy Williams. How great of a coach is he? I think we'd all say one of the best. Yet, he couldn't win one national championship here in his 15 years. He goes to UNC and wins TWO within a few years. Look at Mike Krzyzewski. Great coach, but without Okafor, Duke may not still be in the tournament. UK certainly would not be undefeated without the caliber of players they have. They were in the NIT just a few years ago. Great coaching is part of the equation, but without the players, you're spinning your wheels such as this year. HCBS better get his butt in gear and pick up 3 top end players if there is to be any better result next season IMO.

Joe Joseph 7 years, 1 month ago

Maybe this team isn't as talented as previous teams, but I would argue it's got more talent than all but maybe 10 teams in the NCAA. If even. To clarify, by "the type of players" I do not mean that Self has recruited inferior talent. My concern has more to do with the mentality of that talent. Do they really want to win? Is enough focus being placed on tournament success? Or are players burned out by the end of such an enduring conference run? (I think there's something to that, actually...) And maybe that has nothing to do with the mindset of the players and everything to do with the mindset and philosophies of the coaching staff.

Prior to this season, I was never one to be overly critical of Bill Self. But I really feel like he's done a poor job with this year's team. At least by his own standards. I don't buy the "lack of talent" argument. KU may have had a lack of talent at the '5', but that's it. Talent at every other position that almost any coach in the nation would consider a wealth of talent. The problem is that that talent never came close to playing to its potential, and I think most of that blame falls upon the coaching staff.

Tom Jones 7 years, 1 month ago

Took a team that starts one upperclassman and won one of the toughest leagues in the NCAA's...and did a "poor job". Got it.

Kansas has some of the most spoiled, whiniest fans in the country.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 1 month ago

We won the Big 12 without a true center. We need a center to come in next year along with Bragg. With Ellis and Traylor as seniors, Greene, Selden, Mason and Lucas as juniors there will be true experience on this team along with the rising star in Graham this team will have returning talent.

That being said, a quality center will open things up for Traylor and especially Ellis to run rampant while creating outside shooting opportunities. Selden needs to become more consistent with his shot because he is very streaky, and lastly, Greene must, must, must be able to drive to the basket because he was easy to defend on Sunday because they would not let him shoot the outside shot while forcing him to drive. While he was in, it was like playing 4 on 5.

Thomas Young 7 years, 1 month ago

All you can really say is that Self has not mastered the One and Done era as well as Calipari. But I don't think anyone else really has.

I'd like to see Self step back from the elite freshman for a few years, and go back to building some veteran led teams. I think the group they have are outstanding. If they all come back, I think the team would be significantly tougher and stronger.

If Wiggins had stayed, this is an easy Final Four team. Wiggins wasn't wrong to leave, obviously, but Kansas also didn't really get the kind of season a player like Wiggins would have put up before this era.

In another forum someone was posting about the latest Christian Laettner doc on ESPN. What struck him the most was the insane talent present in the NCAA that you just don't see now. The truth is, the talent is still here, but all we get to see from the elite players is their one or two youngest seasons. We miss that development that leads to dominant junior and senior seasons.

Personally, I would trade the One and Dones for players we can follow and watch over an actual college career.

Joe Joseph 7 years, 1 month ago

"...Self has not mastered the One and Done era as well as Calipari."

And that's exactly why he shouldn't try to emulate it at Kansas.

Self needs to live in the top 15 - 50 recruit range. Guys who are going to be around for at least 2-3 years. Self's strict offensive system and high demands on defense take time for young players to adapt to. Very few freshmen have made major impacts at Kansas under Bill Self. His best teams have always been dominated and carried by upperclassmen.

Callipari's system has only worked, and will continue to work, only when he (a) lands a legitimate NBA superstar (think 2012), or (b) has several OAD type players return for a second season (think 2015). His system is flawed. Kentucky will have ups and downs. They'll go from missing the tournament to winning national championships. Personally, I'd rather have continued success. But, then again, maybe that's just something I say to help ease the sting of early tournament exits.

Ethan Schmidt 7 years, 1 month ago

I agree completely. For all of those who are wishing for the 08 team, remember the 06-07 team of which they were all members, but for the most part as young as this team is. They lost two games at Allen including Oral Roberts (ORAL ROBERTS AT AFH!!!!??), lost on the road to DePaul (I well remember the hand wringing, finger pointing and acrimony after that loss on the part of the fan base) and Texas Tech. Now, that team did have 3 juniors who played major minutes or started (Russell Rob, Kaun and Jackson), so they were even more experienced than this team and eventually made it to the Elite 8 that year. However, the point I am getting at is that that team took its lumps early on, then improved considerably and won a National Championship. Not saying that will happen with this one at all, but we will go from the 15th youngest team in the nation to a very experienced one next year. If we flame out then, I will be disappointed, but until then I think we need to see what they turn into next season before we start claiming the sky is falling.

Brian Wilson 7 years, 1 month ago

Perry is a very good player. But it's not all his fault. But, KU will have a difficult time going anywhere in the tournament as long as he starts at Power Forward. You might have noticed how much he was shooting from the outside. It's because that is where he is really most comfortable shooting.

Perry will not play Power Forward in the NBA. He is too small and gets pushed around by bigger players which is why he is inconsistent at the postiion. Perry should be moved to small forward by KU eventhough his skills are not the best at the position. We do him an injustice by not playing him at the position where he will have to play in the Pros. .

Additionally, the problem with moving Perry to the three is that it may be too crowded. Oubre may be back, Greene and possibly Svi may also be playing the 3. Although I am hoping Svi can play the 2 spot and that Selden leaves or gets made into the 6th man.

But assuming we recruit a few more.....a lineup next year of:
Center: Zimmerman(Fr), Thon Maker(Fr), or Swanigan(Fr)
PF: Rabb (Fr), Bragg(Fr), Traylor
SF: Ellis, Oubre, & Greene
SG: Svi, Selden, Malik Newman(Fr)
PG: Frank Mason, Graham,

.....would be aswesome!

Joe Joseph 7 years, 1 month ago


You're right about playing Perry at the 3. That's his NBA position. However, due to the embarrassment of riches at the 3 on this KU roster, and the embarrassment of poverty in the post, there's no way Perry will play the 3. He's much more needed at the 4, even if he's ineffective at times. On the flip side of that, of course, he often creates mismatches and can rarely be guarded off the dribble by opposing 4s.

I do like that Self finally stopped trying to force him into being a post player and allowed him more freedom to face up and play away from the basket. That's Perry's wheelhouse. I just wish Bill Self would have allowed everyone else on this team to play to their relative strengths as well.

Aaron Paisley 7 years, 1 month ago

Perry Ellis is not a 3 at the college level no matter how much you think it. Bill Self doesn't get paid to play players at their projected NBA positions, he gets paid to win college basketball games and plays players at their college position.

Walter Bridges 7 years, 1 month ago

That would be an awesome lineup but it's not realistic. Most of these players will flock to programs such as Kentucky, Duke, Arizona. We have exactly 1 official commitment and I doubt we will you get more than one other.

Hopefully a center...

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 1 month ago

Brian, I want what you are smoking because we only have one more spot open for this year's recruiting class. We need another big man, preferably a center, and if Oubre and/or Alexander does not come back then Malik Newman needs to be on the list. With a center, Bragg, and Newman, this year's class would be great. I don't think we would need to bring in anyone else honestly for this year because next year we will have a bunch of openings, and could use the extra scholarship.

Brian Wilson 7 years, 1 month ago

I don't smoke. However I do drink occasionally. But, Watch wait and see. More spots will open up than you think. First, even with Bragg having committed we have one more to give. Hence Bragg trying to get Jaylen to team up. Alexander is most likely gone and I hear Mickelson has his degree. He may be one of those that transfers and plays with year of eligibility while getting his Masters. That would give us 3 open scholarships to give and that doesn't include any other surprises.

Rodney Crain 7 years, 1 month ago

If 2 or 3 more want to join us, we will find them the scholarships. Happens all the time, every year with just about every team. KO should leave he looks good for a lottery pick, Cliff is in Limbo, he will make a move too. Greene is a candidate for a change too, either by his decision or Coaches.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 1 month ago

Brian, its an enticing lineup, but one that mixes in too many frosh (hypothetical, of course...). That is the same problem that afflicted last year's and this year's teams, too much youth, not even half-full "toolkit" of offense plays mastered, not the physicality and poise that being upperclassmen naturally brings. We all need to QUIT looking at KY as the model, but instead look at how mid-majors have become giant-killers (with experienced, fundamentally sound rosters is how.). See the poise difference between WSU and KU, and see how it played out on both ends of the court. WSU with recruits 3-4yrs ago that nobody had ever heard of, while KU with recruits everybody has heard of every single year. The early departures and the true OAD's have hurt Self's team-building development. Gregg Marshall didnt do anything different than what Bill Self had done many, many times over starting in his Tulsa days, with many different sets of players. Only Self isnt being given the chance to retain enough critical-mass of experience with still a top50 athleticism + talent the last 3-4 years. So we see him labor mightily with a frosh+soph roster, coupled with injury issues, coupled with ncaa issues.

Dale Rogers 7 years, 1 month ago

I think the media should be banned from the locker room and from talking to the team players anywhere for at least 12 hours after a loss. Asking those young kids those questions at that time is just plain cruel. Just my opinion.

Rodney Crain 7 years, 1 month ago

? This is not pee wee. The players need to practice working with the press too, it is part of the allure of playing in a big time program.

Keep your poise, answer tough questions, etc... It only gets tougher at the next level.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 1 month ago

+1 Rodney, "keeping your poise" is something this team we hope gets much better with next season...

Kristen Downing 7 years, 1 month ago

God I hope Selden goes to the NBA and Kelly too if continues to suffer from lack of hustle from NBA brain. It's a well known disease that hits at the end of the year.

Walter Bridges 7 years, 1 month ago

Selden is most likely returning and in all honesty, I still think he will be a star player at Kansas. Selden knows he would be a second round pick at best.

Zeik Montellioso 7 years, 1 month ago

I agree. I'm not ready to give up on Selden yet. He has lots of promise, just lacks any sort of consistency.

Zeik Montellioso 7 years, 1 month ago

I was thinking along similar lines, except I was hoping Greene and Traylor would have their scholarships revoked.

Erich Hartmann 7 years, 1 month ago

Zeik, if you heard Greene's comments post-game, Im not sure you'd be so hard on him. He put things beautifully, Self couldnt have said it any better. Greene also said how much he loved this team and this season, and the amount of work the team needed to put in to get better. He also mentioned "defensive principles" as did Frank Mason. Now of course, maybe they just heard the gentle fatherly version from Self, prior to the press access to the locker room...but tasting the loss, then immediately being told why, hopefully is a powerful motivator and they actually put in the off-season and pre-season work to become individually better. I know the extra mini-season this July of Korea games, and playing for national pride, will be a HUGE team-building exercise, as well as invaluable "extra" coaching time and practice, actually allowed by the NCAA. Calipari took KY to some off shore tourney this last summer, what a way to integrate high-skill uberfrosh in with 4-5 NCgame experienced returnees. That only helped Kentucky.

Next year we'll have many upperclassmen, and the extra summer session may truly galvanize this bunch. I too think Selden will become more consistent. 25pts vs NMSU, then 0-fer vs WSU certainly needs improving. He's got to think like an alpha. That's why Self keeps playing the big dude. He single-handedly killed FL, right when needed most. Dont mention "Wayne Selden" to Billy Donovan...

Todd 7 years, 1 month ago

I think Perry is a great player. When he's on he gives you 20 points plus. The trouble with him is mentally. He doesn't have the kind of mentality that lends itself to being "The Guy." You could see it yesterday. He was trying way too hard to take the team under his wing and it's just too much for him. He's a cog player. He can be a huge part of a team, but it's just never going to be his team. I keep arguing that KU hasn't had a true consistent leader - one who says this is my game and I'm not going to let us lose - since Sherron Collins. We've had plenty of talents after him, plenty of better players. But he had that bulldog mentality that KU has been lacking ever since.

Janet Olin 7 years, 1 month ago

Frank is becoming that 'Collinsesque' player. Look at his improvement over last year. Sherron wasn't a stud as a Soph. either. I'm betting on Frank to be a star next year and surpass his production from this year.

Mike Riches 7 years, 1 month ago

Allow me to translate:

ELLIS: "I’m not thinking about that at all." Translation: "Yeah, I'm a four year guy..."

SELDEN: "It’s not about next year." Translation: "What is it about my play in the last two years that makes you think I'm going pro??"

OUBRE: "I have no thoughts about the future right now." Translation: "See ya!"

ALEXANDER: No Comment (Because he wasn't in Omaha) Translation: "I'm definitely not ready for the NBA, but since the NCAA won't allow me near a college court, I'm outta here. I'm going to work on my Turkish since that's where I'll probably end up."

Janet Olin 7 years, 1 month ago

Oubre is definitely not NBA ready, but we can't blame him for jumping if the pros wave millions in front of his nose, especially considering his family lost everything in hurricane Katrina. Selden is not ready either, and while he has size and talent, I can't tell if he tries too hard or just isn't coachable; either way, something's off with him and his body language is terrible when things aren't going well. Greene is a total waste and a liability on the court unless he hits more than three treys because he gives up that many points defensively. Hope Svi gains some muscle and confidence, because he can pass, dribble, defend, and shoot.

Walter Bridges 7 years, 1 month ago

If Svi doesn't decide to go back and play pro ball for a European team as he certainly didn't get much exposure sitting on the bench all season.

Bill Kackley 7 years, 1 month ago

Boy I missed the Svi good shooting and defense was barely adequate.

Michael Bennett 7 years, 1 month ago

Being "NBA-ready" is one of the most overrated qualities an NBA prospect can have if they're a lottery pick. T-Rob was the most "NBA-ready" prospect of the Bill Self era and it took him nearly 3 years in the league to do any kind of producing (and that's only happening now because he's on a team that's tanking). Markieff Morris was not "NBA-ready" (according to fans), and neither were Wiggins and McLemore. Yet they're all starters averaging double-digits in ppg. Upside, size and athleticism translate to the pros, college production not so much (see Doug McDermott, Jimmer Fredette, etc.). Unfortunately Oubre would have little to gain by staying, and a lot to lose.

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