Sunday, July 27, 2014

KU RB signee Traevohn Wrench headed to juco

Kansas University football recruiting.

Kansas University football recruiting.


The Kansas University football team’s backfield depth got a little thinner on Saturday with the news that four-star freshman tailback Traevohn Wrench would not be eligible this season and, instead, will enroll at Butler County Community College.

Marvin Diener, Wrench’s high school coach at Gardner-Edgerton, confirmed the plans to the Journal-World on Saturday.

Diener said Wrench reported to Butler two weeks ago.

Wrench, a 6-foot, 191-pound tailback, was one of the top pick-ups in KU’s 2014 recruiting class. He was the first player in the incoming recruiting class to orally commit to Kansas. He chose KU over interest and offers from several major college football programs but did not qualify for enrollment this fall.

Inside the KU program, Wrench’s academic issues have been well known for months. Despite missing out on a player who tore up the Kansas prep scene for the past three seasons, the Jayhawks’ coaching staff has put together a running back corps capable of surviving the loss.

Seniors Brandon Bourbon and Taylor Cox are the most experienced backs in the rotation, while newcomer De’Andre Mann, a juco transfer, and incoming freshman Corey Avery also figure to factor into the mix in 2014. Also, senior wide receiver Tony Pierson may still steal away a few carries, so Wrench’s absence, though disappointing for the future, is not likely to cripple KU in the short term.

Wrench recently told he hopes to return to the KU football team once his academics are in order, but the absolute earliest that could become a reality is 2015.


Gavin Fritton 8 years, 2 months ago

Well...sure. This makes sense and sounds exactly like something that would happen to the Jayhawks.

Doug Cramer 8 years, 2 months ago

Zenger lacked guts and humility to admit that he made a mistake...and failed to take the program on a different path after last season.

Here are some questions for us to ponder from here on out ?

  1. Where does our 2014 recruiting class rank now ?
  2. What was Weis's (supposed) strength coming into this program ?
  3. Are recruits not choosing Weis because of his lack of performance ? (Remember the poll that was taken at Big 12 Media Days)
  4. Do we have enough talent at Freshmen and Soph for the future ?
  5. If a coaching change is made this year, will good coaches steer clear from Lawrence due to the lack of talent they would inherit?
  6. Would Mangino even come back if asked ?
  7. Which NFL offense will Weis be coordinating next year ?

Perkins set this program back at least 5 years now...but Zenger prolonged the pain even longer.

Will never forget that cold snowy day at Arrowhead November 2008, when Meier caught that 4th quarter pass from Reesing to beat Mizzcrap. Or the Orange Bowl experience in chilly Miami. Well those days are over. Probably a good thing we don't play Mizzcrap anymore...makes it less painfull not getting stroked by them every year.

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 2 months ago

The kid was ineligible, it happens. He could go to Juco for a year and come back for all we know. Good thing we didn't kick off players the last week like Texas did or you would want the whole AD department fired. This is a critical year on the field and everyone knows it. Stop living in the past and let's see how this year plays out.

Bill Kackley 8 years, 2 months ago

Cramer, 1 out of 3 is good if it's baseball. Perkins really hurt the program, there's your one. You are wrong on every other conjecture. This isn't baseball so you failed.

Doug Cramer 8 years, 2 months ago

Keith - it may seem like gloom and doom...but it's not that difficult to see where this program is headed. The quicker we make some changes, the quicker we can attempt to become competitive again.

Right now we're no where close, which will become visible after the Duke game, and early in Big 12 play.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 2 months ago

Except when you realize that one of the last TX RB recruits led the team in rushing for 4 seasons in a row. Hopefully, we don't even have to consider that until Avery's RSF year.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 2 months ago

And we are most definitely getting more quality depth than at any point in the last 4 years. Definitely moving in the right direction.

8 years, 2 months ago

This is the reality of our program at this point in time. You need to recruit talent and when your program has been as historically bad as ours you may only land commits out of the 'marginally' able to qualify pool since other winning programs need not invest in them. That this young man didn't take care of academics in HS is not KU's fault. All schools including KU takes a risk vs reward approach in recruiting. Hopefully this kid qualifies academically through the JUCO program and returns in the next year or in two. More importantly to make situations like this less likely this years team must win more games and perform better on the field. Recruits want to be part of a winning team just like fans want to cheer for a winner. Oh and by the way how many recruits to the school this year did qualify? Don't dwell on the negative all the time.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 2 months ago

And it still looks like we picked up a non-qualifing recruit from another program at a shallower and maybe even more important position; LT Larry Mazyck

Maurice E. King III 8 years, 2 months ago

No doubt this is very disappointing. Everyone dropped the ball from Traevohn, Marvin Diener, Gardner Edgerton HS, and KU. You don't let your prized recruit fail academically. Wrench committed early after his junior season allowing plenty of time to correct any academic short comings. There was absolutely no reason to bring Weis back this year other than $$ money. Not wanting to pay another coach not to coach. Craig Bohl left North Dakota State for Wyoming after 2 National Championships and a win at Kansas State. No excuse for KU Football to be last every year...year after year. Zenger hire Craig Bohl for 2015 and raise some money to renovate Memorial Stadium!! Koch Family Stadium?

James Garvey 8 years, 2 months ago

The biggest mistake Perkins made was FORCING out Mark Mangino!

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 2 months ago

Let it go, Mangino is gone. Gill made things much worse and at least Weis has been trying to make changes. So far it hasn't produced the wins we want, but hopefully that is this year. We shall see.

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 2 months ago

I agree that forcing Mangino out the way Perkins did was a huge mistake. The reason why is because KU could handle the PR nightmare that would've ensued had Perkins hired another "tough guy" coach after the way he got rid of Mangino. That investigation being made public drastically cut the pool of candidates Perkins could even look at during that time.

Micky Baker 8 years, 2 months ago

Perkins was being pushed out by Gray-Little so he gave Gray-Little the "Politically Correct" answer, because Gray-Little was on a power surge. It went right to her head. Mangino was under fire because he said the F word to a couple of the players, and not from Perkins, but from Gray-Little. It affected the on field performance in 2009 as well, and it was Gray-Little's fault for interfering with that and not letting Perkins address it. She stepped on Lew's feet so Lew gave Gray-Little what she wanted, a nice guy as coach, not a guy that valued discipline.

Maurice E. King III 8 years, 2 months ago

Absolutely mostly Traevohn's fault but in the end he is still a kid. Everyone else around him are adults who should be guiding and influencing him.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 2 months ago

This late in the process, it would seem like it was a test score (SAT, ACT, or whatever they take now). Hardly anyone's fault if that's the case. Some kids just don't test well. JC's are full of them. No reason he can't be successful like so many before him, and maybe even more so by going the JC route.

Brandon Mahon 8 years, 2 months ago

He already said that he is 100% going to come back to KU when he gets everything figured out. He might have redshirted this year anyways. Yea we want him here to workout at a D1 level but he is going to get exp. and come back from what it sounds like

Dale Kroening 8 years, 2 months ago

For all those STILL bringing up Mangino you need to get over it !!!!! Yes we went to and won the Orange Bowl BUT your crazy if you think that was all because of Mangino. It was time for him to go. Do you not remember his record in the B12 ??? Weis has been given the time and if we don't see results this year he could be gone next season. I for one look forward to this year and hope for a better season with some improvement. And to Doug , is there anything you agree with about KU football ??? We ALL want to see a winner. Then again you could always root for ISU since you would like to see Mangino back...

Micky Baker 8 years, 2 months ago

In reality, this is not KU's fault or the recruiting. This the player's fault. He committed a year ago. He knew what the requirements were going to be, or could have known and he was not responsible for himself. Kansas doesn't cheat like they do in the SEC.

With that said, I'm disappointed, mostly because the kid will have less chances for not being read academically. It could be a whole lot worse. For example, let's say he came this year and red-shirted then we didn't find out he wasn't eligible to play due to academics 3 weeks before opening day next season when we really need him. We know Cory Avery is coming in this year. The roster will be updated when fall camp starts and it currently does not include guy that are newcomers and already in town.

This opens the door to pursue another running back for 2015 who may now be more interested after this development. We also have this guy by the name of Harwell that did not factor into the 2014 class rankings, which really don't tell you that much in regards to the needs of each individual team.

Texas has dismissed several players including their main running back due to some issues off the field. I believe that two of the WRs, one of whom was a starter was booted this past week. I'd rather it not happen that way at Kansas. Take care of and maintain integrity early on. If we're going to do this, let's do this the right way.

On another note, there is this kid who will be a junior in high school this year from the state of Kansas by the name of Ian Rudzik. He ran for 1987 yards on just over 200 carries a year ago as a sophomore in 10 games. His team lost to the 4a state champion by 7 in the first round of the playoffs. In one game last year he ran for more than 460 yards and 8 touchdowns on 22 carries. He is agile in space, he can flat out run people over, and he can run around and past people. He was timed at 4.6 in the 40 as a freshman in high school and won several individual state titles in track as a freshman. He's deceptive, he weighs about 210, probably more this year, and he'll be the strongest and most physical guy on the field in every game he plays this upcoming season. He goes to Ulysses High School, and on game nights, this guy will light up the score board and the statistics pages. At the rate he's going, he might run for 2500 yards this year and even more the following year as there are several complementary backs that get a lot of carries in the backfield with him. Teams will key on this guy and still won't be able to stop him.

Glen Miller 8 years, 2 months ago

We've been looking for reasons to be hopeful since he arrived and the years before that. Every off season all we hear about is how the team is improving and they are better and have more talent....... then the season happens. If you want to choose to live in this fantasy dream land where nary a pass has been thrown in a meaningful game yet, go right ahead.... but please understand that this offseason has been the same song and dance as it has been since Weis got here and while Gill was here before that. We tried the JUCO route and the "dream team" didn't want to work so that was a failure. We haven't gotten the greatest high school players and have seemed to stockpile positions that we are deep at, while neglecting the ones we need to address. I hope and pray that we are competitive this season and I think we will be. But I don't expect more than 3 wins, 4 at most. I know this sounds harsh and seems like I am a troll, but I don't sip on the Kool Aid as easily as some. They have got to show me with the results, not just talk a big game.

Jay Beakum 8 years, 2 months ago

One of the best parts of being a fan is discussing the new season’s possibilities. If we had won a bowl game last year, I’d be talking about the possibilities of an even greater bowl win this year. It doesn’t matter if we are the worst or the best, it’s exciting to see what might be in store.

Remember too, there is a HUGE difference between this new season, and the previous seasons under Weis and Gill. We are back to running a spread. It’s the only way for KU to succeed in the Big 12, and not running it is the main reason the last four years have been so dismal.

Glen Miller 8 years, 2 months ago

No...... the lack of talent, coaching and recruiting were the main reason our last 4 years were so dismal. Like I said, I think they will be better, but I don't expect a bowl. We are a year or two away from that. We will more than likely be 2-1 after our non-con (Duke is good, we are not). Then we would have to win 4 games in the Big 12 and outside of Iowa State and maybe West Virginia.... I don't know who we should beat. I'm just being realistic is all.

Micky Baker 8 years, 2 months ago

As soon as you say "I don't sip on the Kool Aid as easily as some", you've lost all credibility.

It's pretty difficult to argue that the team didn't improve last year in areas by leaps and bounds, particularly on defense. The teams that we played against like Oklahoma, K-State, etc. saw it and they know.

The reality is that Turner Gill was the worst coach in a long time for any DI program. That isn't a knock on Gill, he wasn't ready for this level. He shouldn't have even gotten an interview with a team in D1 for head coach. Gill didn't have the work ethic of any of the 3 coaches before him. Gray-Little pushed Lew Perkins out and then Gray-Little didn't even hire an AD until the school year before last. That seems to be Gray-Little's fault. There was no reason it should have taken that long to replace the AD. Zenger hasn't even been here for two years yet.

National Championship women's track&field KU Baseball post-season appearance Volleyball back to back post-season appearances Success in other non-major sports including rowing, tennis, and a couple of guys from the men's golf team on the PGA tour.
Men's basketball losing to Michigan, as disappointing as that was, Michigan was the national runner-up. The draw works out that way when the committee tries to play favorites with the SEC and ACC. Let's not forget that KU has continued the conference championship streak, and maybe only Texas will have a chance to end it this coming season, and that's doubtful.

The morale in the athletic department seems to be way up, as long as Gray-Little stays out of it.

Glen Miller 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm sorry that you are offended so simply by a statement that is actually pretty dead on. Every year I read all these posts about how we are going to be better, I can feel it. Or how we're going to make a bowl, this is our year. All of this is based on the rumblings of what a journalist that essentially is paid to say good things or make KU look like it's turning the corner puts on the screen in front of us all. I'm not talking about track. I'm not talking about basketball. I'm not talking about volleyball either...... I'm talking about football and the fact of the matter is, we are one of the worst teams in the country of the Big 5 conferences and there isn't even really much of an argument from many within the University against that fact nor among our peers. I choose to actually be logical and realize that while there is not doubt better talent in place and our performance is not as embarrassing as it has been. We still hold a single Big 12 win in the last 3 years. Only 3 Big 12 wins in the last 5 years. We did not magically become a bowl team over night. My point is that I know we will be better, but I am not ready to say we will not finish last in the Big 12. I need to see it with my eyes before I believe that these smoke and mirrors are more like a foundation starting to form. You can BS a lot of people, but I've played sports and watched sports for the better part of 30 years and I will back my team, but I will not spew ignorance out of my mouth like some do. Be realistic here.

Larry Jackson 8 years, 2 months ago

G. Miller, wish I could argue... Unfortunately, the reality of KU f-ball is dismal. The preseason over hype is just plain nauseating at this point. I'm tired of hearing about Mangino too. He was only good at alienating everyone, and running off some of the better assistant coaches in college f-ball.

Brad Farha 8 years, 2 months ago

Call me the eternal optimist. Moved to KC 10 years ago, and this Fall will be the 10th year having season tickets. I absolutely hate seeing the 'Hawks lose, but I still love going to the games.

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