Baylor defeats Kansas, 59-14

  • 6 p.m., Oct. 26, 2013
  • David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, KS

Saturday, October 26, 2013

KU football lacks fire in 59-14 loss to Baylor

Kansas cornerback Dexter McDonald and the Kansas defense show their disappointment after giving up a touchdown to Baylor during the second quarter on Saturday, Oct. 26, 2013.

Kansas cornerback Dexter McDonald and the Kansas defense show their disappointment after giving up a touchdown to Baylor during the second quarter on Saturday, Oct. 26, 2013.


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KU coach Charlie Weis

Kansas coach Charlie Weis talks after KU's 59-14 loss to Baylor on Oct. 26, 2013.

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Saturday's 59-14 loss by the Kansas University football team to No. 6 Baylor, an offensive juggernaut if ever there was one, appeared to be over long before the game clock actually started ticking.

As the two teams took the field on a perfect fall evening in front of a half-full stadium of 32,264 — Baylor in an all-white look reserved, in Westerns, for the good guys, and Kansas in all blue — the Jayhawks strolled onto the field without so much as a hint of the juice we've seen from the home side during recent weeks in which they've jumped out to double-digit leads against Big 12 Conference foes Texas Tech (10-0) and Oklahoma (13-0).

No energy. No bounce. No chance.

Like lambs being led to a slaughter, the Jayhawks jogged across the rug covering the track, ran between the tunnel of cheerleaders that lined the south end zone and fell in line in front of their bench. No jumping, no arm-waving, no urging the crowd to get going. Nothing.

“I didn't really feel the energy,” said junior running back Brandon Bourbon, who scored one of KU's two touchdowns and finished with 48 yards on seven carries. “We didn't come out with the same fire that we usually do, and we've gotta work on getting that up. We gotta be mentally tough enough to not let that affect us. Regardless of what is supposed to happen in the game, we gotta make something happen.”

It never did.

Baylor raced out to a 28-0 lead in a little more than 17 minutes and never looked back en route to building a 45-0 lead before KU could find the end zone. After the victory, players and coaches in Baylor's locker room said energy played a key role for the visitors, unlike last time they came to Lawrence, when head coach Art Briles and then-quarterback Robert Griffin III escaped Lawrence with a 31-30 overtime victory despite trailing 24-3 at the start of the fourth quarter.

“In our pregame, we had a lot of spunk, good attitude and a lot of confidence and it carried onto the field,” Briles said.

The Bears (7-0 overall, 4-0 Big 12) did their best to keep the Jayhawks (2-5, 0-4) in this one early, stalling on their first two drives, thanks to a couple of early drops by the Baylor wide receivers. Kansas did nothing to capitalize, though, taking less than four minutes off the clock on its first three drives, two for starting quarterback Jake Heaps (7-of-19 passing for 85 yards and a touchdown) and one for true freshman back-up Montell Cozart (4-of-14 passing for 69 yards), players who hopped in and out of the lineup the rest of the night.

“They got a lot of firepower,” said KU coach Charlie Weis of the Bears. “And we never really could protect the defense early in the game by having our offense stay on the field.”

At times, Baylor's receivers threw the ball back to the referee as quickly as quarterback Bryce Petty (20-of-32 passing for 430 yards and three touchdowns) got it out of his hands, and that unrelenting speed put pressure on the Kansas defense all night. Baylor's 743 yards of total offense were the third-most ever given up by a Kansas defense. And it did not seem to matter whether it was junior running back Lache Seastrunk and company on the ground, where Baylor rolled up 306 yards rushing, or with Petty and his wide receivers through the air, where BU's 437 passing yards ranked as the seventh-most ever given up by a Kansas defense. No one in the KU locker room explained it better than safety Cassius Sendish, who led the Jayhawks with eight tackles.

“Once they flip the switches, it's like a bat out of hell,” he said.

To be fair, the Bears have been doing this to teams all season. Believe it or not, Kansas held Baylor below its season scoring average of 65 points and the Bears topped their season average for total offense by just 29 yards. The reason this one felt a little different than the others, though, was because so much of the seven-on-seven-type scrimmage the Bears won Saturday night came early. By halftime, Baylor had recorded 505 yards of offense and that set the wheels in motion for Petty to watch much of the second half while wearing a ball cap instead of a helmet.

“What we were trying to do was keep everything in front of us and play a little bit of a bend-but-don't-break,” Weis said. “I think the biggest problem we had tonight was missed tackles. We missed way too many tackles. And, with their firepower, if you miss a tackle, it's to the house.”

It was not just the Baylor offense, which looked faster in person than on television or the stat sheet, that made life tough on the Jayhawks on Saturday night. The Bears entered Saturday leading the nation with seven forced three-and-outs per game and nearly matched that total, with six, in the first half.

With the Bears lead 38-0 at halftime, Weis called his team out in the locker room.

“It's 100-0,” said Weis, recapping his message to the team. “Now, are we gonna lose 200-0 or are we gonna go play competitive? Look, you don't get any awards for how you play in the second half, but you do evaluate by how you play in the second half. And I think the fact that they were going toe-to-toe with them in the second half (was good).”

Kansas had just two more three-and-outs on offense in the second half, while the defense forced Baylor into four of its own. That did nothing to change the outcome of the game, but it did taste better than a 76-0 loss, particularly when everyone in the home locker room knew the Bears were capable of putting numbers like that — or worse — on the scoreboard.

To a man, the defensive players made available to the media after this loss said Baylor's offense was the best they had ever seen. But when asked if they thought they may have just played a national-championship-caliber team, the thoughts were not as clear.

“It's gonna be hard (for Baylor) to pass an SEC team and Oregon,” said defensive lineman Keon Stowers. “So I would be surprised if they made it there. But if they made it there and won, I wouldn't be surprised. That's a hell of a team.”


Sean Rodger 8 years, 8 months ago

Matt - in all seriousness, can you let us Jayhawk football fans know. Do we just need to accept KU football for what it is, and not for what it was the few years it was good? Will things ever look up again, or should be just get used to this losing and being a laughing stock?

This honestly sucks, and it doesn't look like it's getting better.

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 8 months ago

Just go look at KU's history post WWII to see what KU's future looks like unless someone with several hundred million $ to spare decides to give it to KU football. It's a history that says KU will have about 1 really good season per decade (8+ regular season wins), a couple of more decent seasons (bowl eligible) per decade. It's not fun going through that, but without the money to facilitate major changes in the long term future of KU football, KU football will never be a consistent winner because Kansas is one of the weakest states for recruiting and the KU fan base is very apathetic towards football because there's never been a genuine long term effort to create any excitement for football by the KU administration. It definitely sucks if you're a person that cares about KU football, but that's the reality of what KU football is and will continue to be unless someone like Phil Anschutz or David Booth suddenly deciding to pony up hundreds of millions of dollars to build KU football the way OSU football has been built over the last 15 years or so.

Ashwin Rao 8 years, 8 months ago

There are schools that are spending less than KU, but with a better record. My son goes to University of Cincinnati, and they are not the best team in their league, but they are winning.

Sean Rodger 8 years, 8 months ago

I agree - they could pay me a quarter of what Weiss is making and I could come up with these results. You have to admit - KU was on the right track with Mangino. KU fans aren't expecting National Championships in football. But getting to a bottom feeder bowl is semi-respectable. We aren't asking for the world - we're just asking to not suck so badly. Is that really to much to ask for?

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 8 months ago

Look at the difference in competition KU and Cincinnati play in conference. The Big East was a garbage league after the ACC took Miami and Virginia Tech. Look at how West Virginia has done since moving to the Big 12 and they were one of the top 3 teams in the Big East just about every year. Their new league is basically the old C-USA and the only reason the AAC didn't lose AQ status is because the playoff is coming next year.

Ben Johnson 8 years, 8 months ago

Every situation is unique. Kansas does not have the talent pool to pull from that Cincinnati does. There just is not enough people in and around KU due to populatoin density. Throw in the fact that there has rarely been a care about KU football from its fanbase and there you go.

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 8 months ago

I would love to see what Baylor's offense could do against Alabama's defense. I think it would also be a lot of fun to see Baylor and Oregon play against each other. This is the best offensive team I've ever seen in my relatively short life and as much as Saban has complained about the hurry up offense, I would love to see what he could come up with to stop it with a month of preparation for it. Can anyone honestly say they wouldn't love to see what kind of offensive records could be set if Baylor and Oregon ended up playing in the Fiesta Bowl this year.

Ben Johnson 8 years, 8 months ago

Alabama would probably truck Baylor in your scenario. Give a team a month to prepare and the offensive minded teams will almost always lose. Plus alabama's O Line is huge and I don't think Baylor would last long against their rushing attack.

The scenario in which Baylor would win:

  1. No more than 1-2 weeks for Alabama to prepare
  2. Baylor strikes quick and gets up 21-0. At that point alabama would have to start throwing the ball or risk things getting out of hand.

Alabama's counter to this would be to run the ball, drain the clock ala Kansas State.

Bryce Landon 8 years, 8 months ago

Now I'm really starting to think that Weis is not only unfit to be OC, but unfit to be HC. Is he really an improvement over Turner Gill? The yardage we gave up last night was close to the numbers Gill's 2011 team gave up to Georgia Tech.

Without question, this season, along with the previous 3-1/2 seasons, have marked the worst stretch in the history of KU football. Since that 5-0 start to the 2009 season, we are 8-42, and there's no end in sight to this agony.

I've tried to be patient with Weis, but it's becoming clearer to me that his hiring was every bit the mistake that the Gill hiring was.

Ethan Berger 8 years, 8 months ago

NC State was behind 35-0 after a quarter yesterday, That that make Doeren a bad coach? Clemson got obliterated by a similar score to ours by the same team. Is Dabo a bad coach? When Turner gill was here, our defense was the worst in all of college football. As of now, we are middle of the road. Gills teams had to play some of the best offenses in College football, but our Defense is greatly improved. Weis is a huge improvement just because he is bringing in players who can compete. Remember Weis is still using a lot of Gill recruits, and a lot of them couldn't beat out JUCO guys. Its a process, we are in better hands then Gill.

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 8 months ago

The stats going into last night's game said that KU was an average defense (mid 60's range out of about 130 teams) and they held Baylor to pretty closr to their average stats. Why are you judging the process of the worst team in the Big 12 based on how they've competed against the top teams in the Big 12? You will not find the progress you're looking for comparing KU to a top 10 team. The way to judge the progress KU is making is how they perform against the other teams at the bottom of the Big 12 like ISU, WVU, and KSU this year. That's where there is progress to be gained, not in how KU does against a national title contender.

Mike Barnhart 8 years, 8 months ago

The lack of energy comments are to be expected from a team that had been watching Baylor film all week. Baylor is REALLY GOOD, our guys knew the odds!

The missed tackles comment reminded of the point in which I knew WE were really good in 2006. It was obvious back then that we did absolutely ALL the little things right. We picked up blitzes, we ran precise routs and we NEVER missed tackles. Is that talent or coaching? C'mon, we all know that's coaching!

Robert Brock 8 years, 8 months ago

I don't know about lack of energy - it looked like lack of talent and playing ability. Baylor is recruiting excellent football players; KU is not.

Steve Corder 8 years, 8 months ago

The coaching angle will, I believe, come into sharper focus in the results of the WV, I-State and K-State games. Until then these coaches and players have one daunting task of bring total effort and concentration on game day.

Matt, is right when he says '14 is the turn-a-round season for this coaching staff. If it is not then there will be, if not already, quiet inquiries about other jobs around the country. No one wants to be in a building if they know it is going to implode, which makes the work of the AD and head coach even more stressful.

Also agree that a new stadium is key, but the administration is at work on that one. It had better be spectacular and announced ASAP for synergy's sake. A "coat of paint" and adding seats by taking out the track won't cut-it! Football must be seen as the priority in the department. Self and BB are a "Fortune 100" corporation unto themselves.

Better days are ahead....just a lot of pain for fans, players and coaches (and the Admin) in the foreseeable future.

Dave Coen 8 years, 8 months ago

I am an unsophisticated Jayhawk fan with no expertise regarding football. However, my observations lead me to believe our football team is not well coached. The play calling appears to be nonsensical and the players appear to be poorly disciplined when it comes to penalties and sportsmanship. This leads me to believe that our coaching staff does not exercise attention to detail and our future is bleak. I was optimistic after Coach Weis's first year because I thought I saw improvement and competitiveness throughout the season. I don't see the same this season. I fear we have now hired two consecutive poor coaches and we are faced with another very expensive buy-out or three more long seasons of failure. I am a fan of Dr. Zenger and believe he has done a good job as A.D., but this appears to be a bad hire. Please give me reasons for hope.

Ethan Berger 8 years, 8 months ago

I think we need to remember what Baylor as has done this year. Just like week we have OU a very competitive game. We went to Fort Worth and gave TCU all they could handle. Our team is much better then under Gills. In fact we have to remember, it is Gills recruiting that set us back. Baylors lone bad game of the year ended up winning by 20. Baylor is that good. The Tech games is really the only game that stands out to me.

Ethan Berger 8 years, 8 months ago

We can't take this result to mean to much. Baylor is a great team, who will be top 5 this week. Schools that got their butts handed to them by top 5 teams this weekend.

Tennessee UCLA Nc State Penn State

All those teams are better then ours, esp talent wise, and they still got killed. UCLA lost 28-0 in the second half and they are the 12th best team. We gave up a lot of yards, but our Defense has been solid all year. In my opinion, Charlie needs to open up the field and let Cozart learn and adjust. Our next 2 games are to UT and OSU, both games we will lose. So we can't play scared. Iowa State is horrible this year and West Virginia isn't pretty either. We have 2 winnable games left on the schedule. Next year is when we get to see if anything has changed. If we start off the same way next year as we have this year, then Charlie needs to go. But he is bringing in some recruits so maybe our next coach won't have an empty roster to work with.

Doug Cramer 8 years, 8 months ago

No doubt Charlie is doing his best. This job unfortunately was too much for him and his staff.

Reggie Mitchel knows what he's doing...and I think Campo brings improvement to our secondary.

It blows my mind as to why Clint Bowen has been given so much power with the defense ???

We saw what he did with special teams last year. We saw what happened to our defense in 2009 when he became D-Coordinator.

Robert Brown 8 years, 8 months ago

This is the second game in a row where the announcers referred to Bowen as DC.

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 8 months ago

Clint Bowen was also the DC in 2008 and co-DC in 2007. Funny how people conveniently like to forget that as well when saying Bowen is a bad coach. There is no such thing as a coach who will consistently look good with inferior talent relative to the competition he goes against on a weekly basis.

Doug Cramer 8 years, 8 months ago

Funny how I haven't forgot how our defense dropped off the face of the planet when he took over AFTER the Orange Bowl year...and hasn't been back since.

Haven't forgotten anything...but I do agree with you regarding the "inferior talent" that he deals with.

Omari Miller 8 years, 8 months ago

I agree. Why were we trying to outpace the highest octane offense in the country? There's nothing that's evidenced that we can manage a sustained passing attack, and yet we burn through seconds-long possessions with nothing but errant passes. Our best chance was to chew clock and limit possessions.

Ethan Berger 8 years, 8 months ago

That was my main issue was how we threw it the first 5 times of our 8 plays. But I like the attitude of trying to set the pace. We have to remember that Bill Snyder is an all time great coach. K State without Bill Snyder is horrible. K state just came off a year were they earned a BCS win, so it's not fair to compare the two. I think we can have a good program, but it all dependes on maintained success. Which means better stadium, better atmosphere and a coach like Synder and Paterno who will stay with poor program for many, many years making them a contender.

Lance Cheney 8 years, 8 months ago

I think you meant to say, "K-State just came off a year where they earned a BCS loss," or more accurately, "K-State just came off a year where they earned a BCS beating."

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 8 months ago

Baylor did not go 3 and out on their first two possessions. Baylor ran 6 plays on their second possession and their first possession was not KU stopping Baylor, it was Bryce Petty not making good throws on his first possession.

Randy Bombardier 8 years, 8 months ago

Right now there is only one thing that would encourage me. If by a miracle or act of God we would somehow manage to get Braden Smith to ink with the Jayhawks. He is a beast that we really, really need.

I remember before Snyder when K-State was really bad that they took a class of freshmen linemen and played them every year regardless of the outcome. By the time they were seniors they were hardened and battle-tested. I went to the 1981 K-state home game vs OU with an old high school buddy who is a KSU alum and through trickery KSU was up 28-0 at halftime. OU miraculously came back and won but KSU held their own. We may have to do that to get where we have linemen that can compete...eventually.

I feel just awful that we have one of the best backfields in the conference and cannot give them the room to run.

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