Kansas defeats Fort Hays State, 92-75

  • 7 p.m., Nov. 5, 2013
  • Allen Fieldhouse, Lawrence, KS

Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Wiggins wakes up, helps Kansas top Fort Hays State, 92-75 in exhibition finale

Kansas players Andrew Wiggins (22) and Landen Lucas fight for a rebound with Fort Hays State defenders during the first half of an exhibition game on Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2013.

Kansas players Andrew Wiggins (22) and Landen Lucas fight for a rebound with Fort Hays State defenders during the first half of an exhibition game on Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2013.


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Frank Mason, Perry Ellis and Jamari Traylor react to KU's win over Fort Hays State

Frank Mason, Perry Ellis and Jamari Traylor react to KU's win over Fort Hays State

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KU men's basketball coach Bill Self says team needs to turn up the energy more

Following Tuesday's 92-75 exhibition victory over Fort Hays State, KU men's basketball coach Bill Self said his team needs to turn up the energy more and he expects it will during Friday's regular season opener.

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Andrew Wiggins-watchers had to wonder what the heck was going on late in the first half as Kansas University’s basketball team built a 22-point lead over Fort Hays State on Tuesday night with the freshman phenom scoring nary a point.

“If you watch the game, early on he didn’t seem as engaged as he should be and when he came back in he had an opportunity to dunk and he didn’t run. He just didn’t run so I subbed him back out. He played about 30 seconds. He sat out there quite a while,” KU coach Bill Self said after Wiggins woke up to the tune of 10 points in the Jayhawks’ 92-75 exhibition victory over the Tigers in Allen Fieldhouse.

“I love the kid, but he’s got to take everyone’s best shot every night and I didn’t think he really brought it until he got back in the game after that and he was much more aggressive.”

The 6-foot-8 Canadian, who played just nine minutes the first half and 20 for the game, hit the baseline for a hard slam with 3:04 left in the half, cashed a floater in the lane and added two free throws in scoring the final six points as the Jayhawks took a 56-36 lead into intermission.

He had a steal and breakaway dunk to open the second half and also flushed a lob from Frank Mason that would classify as the highlight-reel play of the game.

Wiggins joined a party of four in double figures. Perry Ellis and Wayne Selden scored 13 points, while Jamari Traylor had 11 points to go with Wiggins 10 off 4-of-10 shooting — 0-for-2 from three. Joel Embiid and Conner Frankamp had eight apiece in KU’s second tune-up before Friday’s 7 p.m., season-opener against Louisiana-Monroe.

“I think we’ve got a lot of depth,” said sophomore power forward Traylor, who had five points in a 29-8 run that stretched a 21-20 lead to 50-28.

“We’ve got a lot of guys who can stretch the floor. We’ve got bigs who can score. Joel did a pretty good job in this game in the paint,” Traylor added of the freshman 7-footer who had eight points and seven boards. “As far as Wiggins, I think he’s going to get a lot more comfortable. Everything’s going to flow a lot more easy. I wouldn’t worry about today.”

Traylor hit 4-of-4 shots and three of five free throws with seven boards in just 17 minutes. He was big in that 29-8 surge that opened with a Conner Frankamp three.

“The main thing is confidence,” sophomore Perry Ellis said of the difference in power forward Traylor’s game this season. “He has so much confidence now and that has put him over the top.”

Noted Traylor: “I bring energy. I hustle. I just play hard. That’s all I do.” KU coach Self took notice of the play of the reserves.

“I thought our first unit was pretty stale with the exception of Frank (point guard Mason who had six assists, one turnover),” he said, noting KU fell behind, 14-9 early. “Then when we subbed, our second unit was better in the first half. They got after it and gave us some energy.

“We shot it a little better (50.8 percent, just 5 of 19 from three), but still our field goal percentage defense is awful,” Self added.

Fort Hays State hit 49.1 percent, including eight of 19 threes.

“Our guys just don’t buy in and understand. They’ll say, ‘We’re winning. It’s not a big deal. Coach we’re still going to win.’ That’s not the mindset of our players that have played here in the past,” Self said.

He did mention Ellis (six points in the 29-8 run) as one starter who played well the first half. As far as the bench, Self cited Frankamp and Greene (two threes apiece) as sparking the squad. And Embiid had a first-half block that lifted a lethargic team.

“I think he could be a guy obviously that if he can make some easy shots and bunnies and played a little stronger and made some free throws (he was 3-of-8 shooting; 2-6 from line) even in a game like that he could have 15 points and 10 rebounds,” Self said of Embiid. “He is big and skilled and I thought he showed great athletic ability getting out on the glass. There were some good things, but we’ve got a long ways to go, a lot of work today. I thought it was a step in the right direction.”


Steve Corder 8 years, 6 months ago

Can Wiggins score consistently from outside the lane?

Greg Lux 8 years, 6 months ago

Yes I believe so but he has not shown it yet.

Rock Chalk

Doug Cramer 8 years, 6 months ago

Posted this in a different article...but here are some Items I took from tonight's game:

  1. Frank Mason is further ahead of any Freshman KU point guard this early on that I can remember. He has a knack for creating shots for others...and moves the ball up the court smooth and fast. Mason is a legitimate PG that's ready to go at this level.

  2. Embiid is amazing. He not only will play in the NBA some day...he will STAR in the NBA. Can't believe how well this guy moves for being a 7 footer. I officially join the camp that thinks he will be starting over Black by mid December.

  3. White III has put on some serious muscle. The dude is locked in on getting better. He could be a pleasant surprise for us this season.

  4. Wiggins needs to pack on about 15-20 pound of muscle if he wants to bang with the big boys at the next level. He looks small...yes he's very long...but too thin for the NBA.

  5. From a scoring stand point...we will have no problems offensively this year. I think defensively we'll be a beast by seasons end...once self teaches them. Reason I say because we are incredibly LONG.

  6. I predict we win the Big 12 over OK State...and make a run at a national championship.

Len Shaffer 8 years, 6 months ago

They said that Kevin Durant was too thin too. Remember how he was so terrible at lifting weights before the draft and a lot of people wondered if he would be a great player in the NBA? Of course you've seen Wiggins play and I haven't yet so you have a better gauge of it, but are you sure that his thinness would be a problem?

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 6 months ago

Wiggins and Durant are very different basketball players. Durant killed it in college as a jump shooter, and as a sneaky good defensive rebounder.

Wiggins doesn't appear to be the jump shooter that Durant is. Wiggins looks to have a good stroke but it hasn't been falling. Durant has one of the best shooting motions that you'll ever see. Wiggins' game to this point look to be drive to the basket and create a dunk, layup, floater, or short jumper. Eventually he's going to find his range at this level, but hasn't yet. That said, as a guy who's driving the lane so much, his body could be better suited for mixing it up with centers and power forwards.

That all said, Wiggins' body type is much different from Durant's. Wiggins has the type of body that is ready to add muscle. He will get bigger and he will get stronger. His body type really is more like Lebron's than Durant's, in that Durant is long but his body doesn't take on muscle mass like Lebron's or Wiggins'. He's gotten a lot stronger since the day that he only put up 4 reps at 185 on the bench at the NBA combine, but he's body doesn't show it because his type is extra long and extra lean.

Wiggins has nothing to worry about as far as being ready for the NBA, because based on his shooting motion he will have a better jumper than what he's shown yet, and based on his body type he will get much bigger over the new couple of years.

Steve Zimmerman 8 years, 6 months ago

Sorry, no offense, but can you guys/staff not always use Wiggins as headlines? I think it's pretty lame, especially in this game, other players that stepped up. Wiggins this Wiggins that. Shhheesh.

Greg Lux 8 years, 6 months ago

Your right but it's all about getting your attention and it seems most everyone has Wiggins on their mind ...

Rock Chalk

Ryan Houston 8 years, 6 months ago

Ellis looked good on the court, and is the only player besides Tharpe that understands what is going on during the game. We need this kind of game from Ellis every night. I am assuming Wiggins can make those outside shots, because from what I saw there was not a shot he didn’t like in the last two games. We need more from him then we got tonight. I am much happier with the way Frankamp played tonight. He needs to work on getting the ball down the court. Emiid is improving fast, and looked pretty good out there. I could see Emiid starting by the end of the season. Emiid still needs a lot of work, because he is still making bone head plays. Selden is a guy who lived up to his name tonight. Some nights he may be our leading scorer. 13 points is what I am expecting from Selden this season. One thing is for sure, if we play defense the way we did tonight against the blue devils, we are going to get spanked.

Len Shaffer 8 years, 6 months ago

"They’ll say, ‘We’re winning. It’s not a big deal. Coach we’re still going to win.’"

Is anyone else concerned about that comment? It's hard to believe that anyone could say something so ignorant. Do they really not understand that what works against Fort Hays State might not work against Duke (or even Louisiana Monroe, for that matter)?

Bryce Landon 8 years, 6 months ago

I agree. Sounds like there are problems with this team already. Like they too have bought into the Wiggins hype.

And the defense surrendered 49.1% shooting to a D2 school? That's awful defense.

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 6 months ago

oh, they'll learn. It's one benefit of having such a tough early season schedule.

The different in this statement and the mindset of the guys in the past and what these guys need is in the second sentence.

They will soon realize that it IS a big deal. If they're not giving their best effort, then even if they're winning, they are leaving the door open for a comeback.

That said, they should have the mindset that "We are still going to win" even if they are down by 30. But it has to be coupled with the mindset that "we are going to out-hustle, out-muscle, and leave it all out on the floor"

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 6 months ago

The FG% defense is a problem, but it's likely less of a problem than what it appears.

It seems like this happens every year. Coach sends the team out in the early games and either gives them a defensive gameplan that doesn't work or lets them struggle defensively as a teaching point. Hedge every ball screen. No switching on ball screens. Switch every ball screen. He's putting them in situations so that they can grow. But he's also putting them in situations where they will struggle. He wants to teach them about what it takes to win, and he has to learn what kind of players he has on his team.

Then, by mid-December they will know how to play defense, no matter the opponent. At that point Coach will no long "experiment" with the defense, he will simply send them out with the best strategy to not only win, but win big. If he does any experimenting with the defense after that, it's most likely out of necessity and involves throwing in a zone or press defense when nothing else seems to work.

Olen Bunting 8 years, 6 months ago

The rule changes will produce more "cheap" fouls resulting in more players having foul trouble. A team that is deep with scorers will have a big advantage - fortunately KU is such a team. Defensive shooting percentages will probably increase.

ESPN3 was out of focus most of the second half here in Texas and they didn't seem to care enough to fix it

Walter Bridges 8 years, 6 months ago

I don't like the rules change but you are absolutely right. I think that this rule will be reason enough NOT to redshirt any player.

I switched viewing devices after halftime. Originally watching the game on my computer then switching it to my Nexis seemed to help with the picture quality.

Chris Shaw 8 years, 6 months ago

A couple of things:

1) I love the 1-2-2 press and full court stuff Bill Self is doing this early in the season. I firmly believe not having this in the arsenal in year's past (Rather not using it till late in the game) against UNI, VCU, Davidson, Southern Illionois, Bradley.....basically lesser talented squads in the NCAA Tournament were missed opportunities to change tempo and pace in favor of KU. Hopefully, with the speed and talent this squad offers....Self and staff can take advantage of a more diverse game plan a little earlier and more often if needed.

2) Tharpe and Mason are playing extremely well. If Tharpe looks for his shot second...this team is going to be nasty. I love the play making abilities that these two are showing thus far in the season.

3) Amazing how smooth and clean Embiid's footwork is. It's crazy how good he's going to be. He missed a couple of shots, but that turn around jumper and then the shot off the glass even though they missed were still pretty.

4) Frankamp needs work at the PG spot. He doesn't quite have the handles that Tharpe and Mason have and is not as quick. However, the kid can flat out shoot.

5) Does KU need to red-shirt anyone? I am a big fan of red-shirts and making players aware of their situation and possibilities, but I am thinking that this squad may not need one this year. If everyone "Buys-in" like Self is suggesting could be anyone on any given night to step up and provide a spark. Interesting to say the least.

6) This team is going to flat destroy anyone who plays zone on them.

Ethan Berger 8 years, 6 months ago

I'm going to give you 5 crazy predictions and you will see them come true (probably not because they are crazy).

1) Embiid will never start a game over Black this year and he will still go number 2 in the draft. Why? Embiid has a better offensive skill set then 29 of the 30 centers starting centers in the NBA. However, Embiid doesn't know the game yet and has a long way to go before he can be trusted on the court. So the NBA will love the chance to develop him without school getting in the way.

2) Kansas will win the National Title this year. Why? Because of Tharpe, Black and Ellis. We have big time rotatation guys who have played multiple years of college ball. See Kentucky in 2011/2012.

3) Kansas will go undefeated in Conference play. Why? OSU and Baylor are the only teams capable of beating us. When playing OSU we just need to throw the farm at Smart and get him in foul trouble. Baylor has a very good low post lineup but no depth. We have depth.

4) By years end Tharpe will be a projected first round pick. Why? Because he is the only guy right now who can create his own shot and create for others. Tharpe is good at all three offensive needs for a point, Passing, shooting, and driving. If you are worried about height, see the best pg in the NBA right now.

5) Selden will stay for next year and White will average 10 ppg. Why? Selden still needs to get a shot and next year he will be the man. He will be projected top 15 after this year but with one more year he will go top 5. As for White, because he is the first shooter off the bench, he will get a lot of looks with Wiggins, Selden and Tharpe driving and kicking out to him.

Jeff Mills 8 years, 6 months ago

4 might qualify as crazy. The NBA would rather have a 6'5 guard that has crazy athleticism and no skills over any barely 6-footer.

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 6 months ago

Numerous guards have been first rounders that are barely 6 foot. We shall see how it goes, but Tharpe Gerri g drafted may not sound crazy if he brings his game up. Shall see what happens, and with Mason playing well that can only make Tharpe want to get better.

Erich Hartmann 8 years, 6 months ago

Biggest factor for Self teams is their D. How quickly we improve in that area will determine how well we will do against top Div.1 opponents. Yes we only had 15 fouls for the game, but allowing a Div2 opponent to shoot 49% is not acceptable. Im very curious what Duke looks like right now, as how much we improve in 5 days is all we get for that game (same applies to Duke...).

Tony Bandle 8 years, 6 months ago

Hello, everybody....OakvilleJHawk here...I just couldn't stand it any longer, reading all these well-thought out posts using logic, intelligence and sports acumen.

Where's the goofiness..where's the grab ass..where's the haikus??? I missed Jaybate's encyclopediac-like posts [ I promise not to even attempt to duplicate those tomes]. I missed the great avatars and the continuity of posters who I have never met yet consider friends as well as fellow Jayhawks. So with the help of a nice young lady at the LJW, here we go.


1] I think evey avatar should be of the poster's behind. Just like snowflakes, each one is uniquely different.

2] Bill James, if you read this site, congrats on being the world's greatest sabermetrics jock and the world's worst volleyball player.

3] Guaranteed, this team will lose some games in spectacular fashion in 2013...and win a heck of a lot of games in spectacular fashion in 2014!!

4] Supposedly, Depaul has now entered the race for Cliff Alexander and KU is out...just a rumor, bothersome as that may be. He's dating one of the Gonzalez twins, I think, so let's hope love conquers all!!

5] If we play like this against Duke, the whole team will be running the steps at Allen ...including the whole coaching staff!! 50% shooting by a Div. 2 team??!!!

6] I can see KU late in a game protecting a lead, having both Naadir and Frank on the court for ball protection. Frank..what a great name for a basketball's so out of place, it's like a nickname in itself!!

Tony Bandle 8 years, 6 months ago

Note. Please delete #4..wrong girlfriend & wrong rumor. If Cliff is coming for an unofficial visit, he is A] seeing his girlfriend B] Making sure KU will be his choice C] showing Mom " hey, it's not that bad a drive at all!!. :)

Ian Emerson 8 years, 6 months ago

DePaul would truly be a blackhole in his developement and it doesnt surprise me that rumors are coming around that he will stay local. Didnt that happen with one of our frosh recruits? If he is taking an unofficial visit here i leave it too Miss Gonzalez too change his mind and tell him to get his ass here. Lets hope this isnt a breakup trip.

Dennis Kalivoda 8 years, 6 months ago

Finely got enough guts to put your name on it, good boy. Jaybate is still hiding.

Tony Bandle 8 years, 6 months ago

YEP..when you don't answer emails, open mail or answer the telephone, it's a piece of cake!!

PS It's "finally", by the way, but your version has sort of a poetic touch to it. :)

Dennis Kalivoda 8 years, 6 months ago

I like it. What do you do go into hiding in everything?

Karen Collier 8 years, 6 months ago

Have you noticed KU makes it's runs when AWIII is in the game? The difference is: 1. His man doesn't score. 2. Great help side defender. 3. He forces turnovers. 4. Is willing to feed the post. " Bigs play Harder" 5. His shooting spaces the floor. 6. Can get to the basket at will. 7. Makes players around him better. This is a Winning Combination! Go JHawks!

Kye Clark 8 years, 6 months ago

icthawkfan316 here. I don't post or even follow as much during the offseason - only so many times I can see guys list what they think the starting line-up and rotation should be - so seeing everybody's name is odd. Not that I care to put my name to it, but come on...Jaybate is Jaybate. HEM is HEM. StupidMichael is StupidMichael. This is just weird. Maybe there should be a dual moniker. For example: icthawkfan316/Kye Clark. Just to keep the familiarity. What is the underlying reason for the change anyway? Anybody know?

Anyway, not much to add just yet, other than to say it looks like maybe Coach Self's praise of Frank Mason during the offseason might be the rare occasion where it was not just "coach speak", and he really might be a steal (given his ranking). Really optimistic after watching this guy in the exhibition games. Trying to reel myself in, as they were in fact just exhibition games. We'll know more soon, but he looks like the real deal! RCJHGKU!

Jay Reynolds 8 years, 6 months ago

JhawkinTN here. It's been a real thrill to find out people's "real" names. I can understand why some people have a problem with facebook and non-anonymity, so--although I still read Gary, Matt, Jesse and Keegs every day--it's been fun to follow some of the old commenters over at too.

Brad Rosenbaum 8 years, 6 months ago

Great to see some of the guys coming back. I haven't often posted, but I have always enjoyed the insight I find here. Keep it coming!

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