Texas defeats Kansas, 21-17

  • 11 a.m., Oct. 27, 2012
  • David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, KS

Saturday, October 27, 2012

Not our time’: KU can’t close out lead, falls 21-17 to Texas

Deflated Kansas defenders Greg Brown (5) and Bradley McDougald (24) make their way off the field following the Jayhawks' heartbreaking 21-17 loss to Texas on Saturday, Oct. 27, 2012 at Memorial Stadium.

Deflated Kansas defenders Greg Brown (5) and Bradley McDougald (24) make their way off the field following the Jayhawks' heartbreaking 21-17 loss to Texas on Saturday, Oct. 27, 2012 at Memorial Stadium.


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Press Conferences & Post-Game Interviews

KU coach Charlie Weis talks following KU's 21-17 loss to Texas

KU coach Charlie Weis talks following KU's 21-17 loss to Texas on Oct. 27, 2012.

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KU vs. Texas

The gameplan called for more passing, but the "exotic" defenses the Texas Longhorns threw at the Kansas University football team on Saturday at Memorial Stadium forced the Jayhawks to adjust — right to their biggest strength.

Behind yet another career day from junior tailback James Sims and an offense that ran 56 times for 234 yards and threw just nine passes, the Jayhawks came within a play or two of beating Texas for the first time since 1938. But a play-action pass on third and goal from UT back-up quarterback Case McCoy to tight end D.J. Grant with 12 ticks remaining in the fourth quarter turned a three-point KU lead into the Jayhawks' 17th straight Big 12 loss and proved to be the broom to KU's confetti. Texas 21, Kansas 17.

"It was a tough loss," said Sims, who ripped off a career-high 176 yards on 28 carries. "Give Texas credit, they finished the game. It's crazy how a couple plays can change the game like that. We work so hard, and it's not our time. But we feel like it's our time coming."

It actually looked as if KU's time had arrived for most of the afternoon. After punting on two of their first three possessions — the other one reached the UT five-yard line but went backwards from there and ended with an incomplete pass in the end zone on fourth and 29 — the Jayhawks' running game began to click. Of course, it didn't hurt that run the ball was all Kansas did.

From KU's final offensive play of the first quarter (an incomplete pass from red-shirt freshman quarterback Michael Cummings to senior Kale Pick) until there were around nine minutes to play in the game, the Jayhawks dialed up 33 consecutive running plays, eating up yardage and clock in the process.

"I kind of figured that they would try to do different things to try to rattle Michael," KU coach Charlie Weis said. "And we had enough things in the run game to try to take the pressure off if they did that. We had some passes called early where they got to us, so I just shut it down and said, 'OK, we're gonna just grind it out and grind it out and grind it out and we're gonna do more of that in the second half. It leads to low-scoring games, but it at least put us in position to win the game."

Added Cummings: "We came out and just tried to grind the football and make it a smashmouth football game the whole time. We enjoy playing physical football."

Sims, whom Weis now comfortably calls the best running back in the Big 12, did most of the damage, but sophomore Tony Pierson (12-51) and junior Taylor Cox (6-28) also delivered crucial carries that kept the Jayhawks (1-7 overall, 0-5 Big 12) in the game.

Touchdown runs from Christian Matthews — yep, even the quarterback-turned-wide-receiver took a couple of true handoffs today — and Pierson on back-to-back drives in the second quarter put the Jayhawks up 14-7 at the half, and KU played with a lead for much of the day.

Texas tied the game on an 11-yard run by wide receiver and U.S. Olympic Team sprinter Marquise Goodwin with 9:41 remaining, but the Jayhawks, backed by a rocking crowd of 40,097, answered Goodwin's touchdown by jumping back in front on a 29-yard field goal from sophomore kicker Nick Prolago with 2:28 left.

"I thought (we) showed some mental toughness," said Weis of the 14-play, 61-yard drive that took 7:07 and set up the field goal. "Not physical toughness, I thought (we) showed some mental toughness. How many times have we talked about, 'Here we go again?' That's not how they acted. It wasn't a, 'Here we go again.'"

Added Sims of the 14-play drive: "It was exciting in there. It was college football. It was a close game, and we knew it was gonna be a battle so we said, 'Let's just finish it,' and that's what we did.'"

Well, almost.

The KU offense certainly did its part, and the defense, at times, looked as if it was ready to make this the breakthrough moment for Weis' version of The Little Engine That Could. But, like his older brother Colt had done so many times before him, McCoy led the Longhorns to a game-winning touchdown, overcoming a near-interception on the first play and a fourth and six three plays later.

"Normally, you say we didn't close the game," Weis said. "Well, I think they made some plays."

The biggest of them all came with just over a minute remaining when McCoy hit wide receiver Mike Davis for a 39-yard gain down the KU sideline that gave the Longhorns a first and goal at the KU three. After initially calling timeout to allow his defense to regroup, Weis said he left the clock management decisions up to defensive coordinator Dave Campo.

"I had to let the defense play the game," Weis said. "Our best chance right there was to make a goal-line stand."

After stuffing the run on first and second down, the Longhorns (6-2, 3-2) broke through with the pass on third down. Game over.

While many of the Jayhawks have become accustomed to talking about how each loss hurts as much as the others and how they'll keep their heads up and keep moving forward, their body language in the postgame interviews showed a different side.

"I was visualizing it," said Sims of what it would be like to beat Texas.

After a long pause and a sigh, senior safety Bradley McDougald also demonstrated that his squad's latest close call stung a little more.

"It's gonna hurt for a while," he said. "I love the effort. We're headed in the right direction, but I don't know if we'll really know if we're headed in the right direction unless we go to Waco (Nov. 3 vs. Baylor) and play the same way because that means we're playing with consistency."

Added senior cornerback Greg Brown, who just missed on a late interception that could've iced the game: "We don't take moral victories, but I can say we took a step forward."


Boouk 9 years, 9 months ago

I think our record would be 5-3 or maybe even 6-2 right now if we had Heaps and McCay. 6-6 or 7-5 might be a reasonable expectation next year with them and a solid recruiting class that hopefully adds a good kicker.

texashawk10 9 years, 9 months ago

I honestly don't know what expectations should be next year at this point. What I do know is that the OLine and secondary are going to be huge question marks for KU next year. I don't think a lot of people realize just how good the left side KU's OLine really is this year because at least 75% of KU's running plays are to the left side and to be as successful as KU is at running ball when the defense knows you're running left is a testament to just how good Hawkinson, Zlatnik, and Marrongelli have been this year and replacing those 3 next year is going to be very difficult.

I also don't think the secondary is getting the credit they deserve this year. The haven't given up all that many big plays this year and have been very good in run support this year. Replacing Brown, McDougald, and Smith is going to be tough as well for Campo. Replacing both of the starting DE's is going to critical as well because the only reason this defense hasn't been blown away more is because of the job the secondary has done in spite of the lack of a pass rush this year.

I'm not going to go as far as to say KU would be 5-3 or 6-2 with Heaps and McCay this year (although I won't argue very strongly against it either), but I do firmly believe this team is less than 10 plays away from being 5-3 this year. This team is headed in the right direction and I'm looking forward to what Holsopple and his guys can do in the offseason and then what the position coaches can do with their guys in the spring. I know the blame/credit will ultimately fall on Weis for the development of this team, but the position coaches are the ones who really do the development because they're the ones who are teaching the techniques to the players and spending the most time with the players.

BayPark 9 years, 9 months ago

I'm sorry, that's just an absurd statement. We don't know any more about either one of them than we did about Crist before he took the field.

Boouk 9 years, 9 months ago

Quarterbacks coach Ron Powlus has said Heaps has the best mechanics and accuracy of all the KU quarterbacks. Weis said this past week that McCay has improved significantly and that Heaps and McCay have been working on their timing together. They may look a little rusty at the start of next season, but unlike Crist, they should be able to shake it off and play up to their 4 and 5 star rankings coming out of high school.

You know what else is absurd? Your comment after the OU game when you said: "Our defense is every bit as bad as last year." Last year's team would've lost that game 77-0.

BayPark 9 years, 9 months ago

Touche' They were much improved today.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 9 months ago

Actually, I seem to recall the general sentiment from the Spring game being that Heaps was the best QB out of all that played, so we do have some comparison.

Rivethead 9 years, 9 months ago

Yup dagger108. You've been listening to me. I've said it before and I'll say it again....anyone who was at the Spring Game (like me) saw with their own eyes....Heaps throws a more accurate ball than Crist. I said it at the time....all of Dayne's passes were high.....he's going to get our short WRs killed. I'm pretty sure DJ, DP, and even Kale will agree with me. Those three got hammered this season due to high, inaccurate Crist passes. I don't think we'll see the same with Heaps.

Mike Hart 9 years, 9 months ago

Let's not forget... Heaps lost his starting gig at BYU.. and some labeled him a "bust" there. McCay was another heralded recruit for OU, but he wasn't known to be a prolific route-runner. Anything is better than the zero production out of Turzilli. I'm more optimistic about QB and WR play next year, but let's not forget about all the graduating seniors on the O-line. So temper your expectations for 2013 and just hope for some more consistency and some overall team improvement.

Micky Baker 9 years, 9 months ago

In all fairness, there are at 4 freshmen OL that are redshirting this year, and that is probably only because of experience. But, the right side of the line is returning and will be more experienced and have improved from earlier in the year.

There are at least two freshman that will be getting PT on the OL this year. The size isn't an issue with these younger guys. I'm thinking that they're redshirting for a reason, and not a negative one. So they have a full 4 years. We have a pretty good OL coach.

Jarod DeLozier 9 years, 9 months ago

We could be near that with the current personnel. We've lost four games by a combined 18 points.

Curtis Stutz 9 years, 9 months ago

Wanted this one pretty bad, I'm sure the athletes did too. Good news guys, you've got a chance to go to Baylor and get a road win in the state of Texas, snapping conference losing streak, snapping road losing streak, would still be a great win for KU. Get after it! Weis, when the other team has the ball on your 2 yd line with 1 minute to go, don't let them run out the clock, use one of your 2 timeouts for crying out loud.

Mike Hart 9 years, 9 months ago

Let me guess... we were going to get the ball back and then suddenly "Pass" our way into FG range. Right....

KUFan90 9 years, 9 months ago

Way to battle it out Hawks! Obviously wish they could have held on for the victory, but they showed heart and fight and were in a position to get the W.

Like Brown says, now they have to carry it over vs Baylor next week.

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

QB is the most important position in football. And no doubt about it that it's an area we've struggled in all year. If Heaps is all that is being said about him, he'd clearly help the cause. To McCay, we could definitely use him. Big receiver who runs a 4.5 forty. We need to have that guy who can get separation from defenders. I rarely see it with the group we have. That said, really hard for me to dispute your argument (not that I'm trying) cause I agree, with those 2 guys (more so Heaps) we'd have won the Rice and NIU games, and would probably have gotten 1 or 2 wins against TCU, OSU, or Texas.

Mike Hart 9 years, 9 months ago

Where are you guys reading the glorious comments about Jake Heaps? "If Heaps is all that is being said about him, he'd clearly help the cause". Go search google with Jake Heaps and bust and see what comes up. For starters, here's a BYU board on Heaps. Some of the characterizations and complaints sound awfully familiar to what was said about Dane Crist.

Micky Baker 9 years, 9 months ago

BYU isn't exactly lighting it up with the QB they have now. Their starter, 9 TD passes, 11 INTs. They are probably wanting Heaps back right about now. They very well could have 2 more wins with better QB play than they've had. 5-4 and they haven't played a tougher schedule than Kansas. Kansas has at least a to 10 strength of schedule.

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

Really? Playing Duke in Chapel Hill in 2014? Come on guys, how about proofreading

Date Matchup Location TV / Time Sat, Sept. 6 SE Missouri State at Kansas Memorial Stadium Lawrence, KS
Sat, Sept. 13 Kansas at Duke Chapel Hill, N.C.

actorman 9 years, 9 months ago

Unbelievable that they would make such a dumb mistake.

On the other hand, maybe they're trying to inflict the KU-Duke game on the UNC fans ...

actorman 9 years, 9 months ago

I don't mean to make fun of the 'Hawks. I was proud of how they competed today. A heartbreaker for sure but a tremendous effort.

Chad Sandwell 9 years, 9 months ago

Here is my pet peeve........The last 3 home games, TCU, OSU and Texas.....our team has showed tremendous fight and in the last 2 were in it right to the end....Right now our team is not disappointing it is the "fans" and students. Our team obviously feeds off of the energy the crowd provides at home, but imagine just for a moment what kind of advantage we could build if people would actually show up for this team through thick and thin..... This team is making serious strides and a lot of people are missing it, heck I live in South Dakota, and have been there for all but 2 games this year to the end and plan on being there for the home finale against Iowa State. Many people all year long have been stating that they wish this team would show up. Well guess what people....they have and now it's your turn.... For God's sake people fill the stands and show this team your support on the last football Saturday of the year.

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

Couldn't agree more. Despite the record, this team is much more competitive and right there to the end in the games you mentioned. It's more than a pet peeve for me, it downright ticks me off how apathetic alot of KU fans are towards the football team. I want us to be competitive year in and year out, and contend often in the Big 12; never a doormat. And home crowds will play a part in that. Let's hope people get on that train and support the team, the whole game. I won't hold my breath on the students, as they disappoint way too often

texashawk10 9 years, 9 months ago

I agree with that and wish I had the time and funds to fly up for the games, but for now I have to be satisfied with watching on TV or the internet. I do wish there was something that could convince people to go to the games regardless of KU's record and force the need to expand the seating capacity. Unfortunately, the reality is that people won't show up until KU becomes a winner and even then it's going to be difficult to keep students from leaving at halftime which was an issue even when KU had their decent stretch from 2006-2008 at home.

Micky Baker 9 years, 9 months ago

+100000000000000000000000. This deserves a STANDING OVATION! You're right. The team had to show up after the lightning, and they did. They showed up when it was "cold". But it isn't January! The team DESERVES the fans. It goes both ways.

KU_Loyal 9 years, 9 months ago

Charlie, Why didn't you run the play clock down to 1second on the last several plays of our field goal drive? Our guys earned the win, you tookit away and gave it to Texas.

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

Ignorant question and comment. CW didn't give anything away. While he certainly could've let the clock run a little more, that would have signaled the "playing not to lose" mentality. Instead, he kept the rhythm that was eating clock with a running attack that was getting first downs.

mdfraz 9 years, 9 months ago

INCREDIBLY valid observation and comment. We snapped the ball on first and second down on the last drive with between 10-15 seconds left on the play clock. Then, with a FG in our pocket (well, as much as we can expect this year) we throw on third down. If you take advantage of every second in those three plays, you run another minute off the clock. Think UT would have preferred 2:29 or 1:29? They only had one time out left at that point. And here's the thing; we were running the ball well, so if you run (maybe the power sweep we had success with) you might even get the first down. Charlie didn't trust Cummings to throw throughout the second half, but he wants him to throw late in the red zone.

Would UT have gone down and scored anyway? Maybe. But you play the odds and do it right. We did not. Throw in the fact that on third down at the two with over a minute left we sat on two timeouts and CW (or Campo, possibly) did a lot to cost us in the last 5 minutes of the game.

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

Don't assume I don't believe coaches do not play a role in the game, but to throw this in there lap is beyond ridiculous. The players make the plays, or not, and it will always be that way. It's the coaches job to put them in position to do so. Was it CW's or Campos fault that Patmon bit on a PA pass that led to a 50 or so yd completion down the sideline that setup the winning touchdown? Absolutely not. Players make plays, and it doesn't always work out for someone. I don't dispute UT having only 1:30 left instead of 2:30 wouldn't have made it more difficult. But answer this; was the time more important or was the fact we gave them a deep pass more important? And that is on the players, not coaches.

Jeremy Hays 9 years, 9 months ago

"mdfraz 17 hours, 39 minutes ago

INCREDIBLY valid observation and comment. We snapped the ball on first and second down on the last drive with between 10-15 seconds left on the play clock. Then, with a FG in our pocket (well, as much as we can expect this year) we throw on third down. If you take advantage of every second in those three plays, you run another minute off the clock. Think UT would have preferred 2:29 or 1:29? They only had one time out left at that point. And here's the thing; we were running the ball well, so if you run (maybe the power sweep we had success with) you might even get the first down. Charlie didn't trust Cummings to throw throughout the second half, but he wants him to throw late in the red zone.

Would UT have gone down and scored anyway? Maybe. But you play the odds and do it right. We did not. Throw in the fact that on third down at the two with over a minute left we sat on two timeouts and CW (or Campo, possibly) did a lot to cost us in the last 5 minutes of the game."

Ok, So in your scenario with kickers who are a combined 2-6 or 1-6 something like that, and you are at home tied with the 25th ranked team in the nation and a team you haven't beaten since 1938. and you want to tell your team that we can't score and defense you can't stop them. I guess you know better than the coaching staff who held Texas, TCU and OSU well under their season average. I understand but you try to score with 2 and change on the board that way you don't lose. It would ice the game had we scored... We had 2-3 Red zone stops. I think doing what they did was the best thing. It backfired but what are you going to do. Not attempt to win??? Hope your .333 kicker makes it with no time on clock???

Dirk Medema 9 years, 9 months ago

There were lots of plays that could have won the game, so it's really inappropriate to callout CW or anyone else in this game. They're getting closer, and definitely headed in theright direction,

jhox 9 years, 9 months ago

This is a valid question. We were leaving 10 to 15 seconds on the play clock on many plays in that drive. People in our section were asking the same thing.

Mike Hart 9 years, 9 months ago

How ironic that someone with teh name "KU-Loyal" found a way to blame Charlie Weis for this loss. Ridiculous. You earn wins by making plays. We had a chance to ice the game when Texas opening pass on the winning drive hit KU defensive back Greg Brown right in the gut... and he DROPPED it. The coaching staff is doing alot of the right things.. and this team was ready to play Texas and truly deserved the upset. It was one play away from it happening (they later failed to make a stop on 4th down). Let's not forget Bradley MacDougald's BRUTAL punt returns (let's two go... downed at the 2 yard line and then on a 3rd, he tries to dive to make the catch and fumbles, resulting in Texas ball deep). That's why we got off to such a sluggish start in 2nd half. That's not Charlie Weis. That's not the coaching staff. That's 2 of our seniors... gentlemen. Our senior leaders have to make plays. At some point... you have got to stop criticizing the coaching staff and hold the players accountable.

Micky Baker 9 years, 9 months ago

That one right near the start at the second half swung field position too. He should have let it go, even if it was downed inside the 10. Our defense held. That was nice, but we needed Field Position. Field Position could have been the difference. It's really a game of inches.

With that said, there is noone more disappointed than they players themselves. We shouldn't pretend like we're the ones that did all that hard work to improve as much as they have. What they need, and I think we only have one more home game, is a sold out stadium and 110 decibels every time our defense is on the field. That's what the students need to do.

BayPark 9 years, 9 months ago

Can we please finally give Charlie Weis and his coaching staff the props they deserve? To be able to compete nose-to-nose with Texas, whose talent and recruiting success far exceeds ours, is a remarkable achievement. Hopefully it will silence the critics, who show how little they understand about college football.

KU_Loyal 9 years, 9 months ago

Anyone who complains doesn't know college football? You must be kidding...below is a direct quote from your post on September 22nd.

"I'm pissed! We had a lead in the fourth quarter and then laid down like a dog and let NIU have its way. O-line got whipped. D-line got manhandled. Arm tackling. Moping in and out of the huddle. No pride. No toughness. No fight. Just waitin' for the game to end so we can shuffle off with our tail between our legs. I'm sick of it."

BayPark 9 years, 9 months ago

I didn't say "anyone who complains." Read it again. I complain a lot. I just don't blame the current woes on a coach who inherited a mess.

Jim Roth 9 years, 9 months ago

Obama 2012! (sorry, the analogy was just right there)

KU_Loyal 9 years, 9 months ago

I was specifically commenting on clock management which has nothing to do with what he inherited.

Being critical and complaining are exactly the same. You indicted yourself.

Micky Baker 9 years, 9 months ago

For all those students with season tickets that didn't show up today, here's a thought. Take their basketball season tickets and then sell them to the students that did show up today. Those there today are the true fans. The others, well, check their GPAs.

actorman 9 years, 9 months ago

So let me see if I understand you correctly, '73: if someone doesn't support a team that has been truly wretched for the last few years and is only now beginning to barely show signs of life, that makes them stupid?

Okay, as long as I understand you correctly.

Rivethead 9 years, 9 months ago

Not stupid. Just not a fan. Fans support the name on the jersey, not the record.

actorman 9 years, 9 months ago

Actually, what's truly stupid is berating people for not showing up to games.

No one is OBLIGATED to give their time and energy (and money, for the non-students) and show up at games. If someone chooses to support a team, that's great. But it is a choice that everyone is entitled to make for themselves.

Jack Jones 9 years, 9 months ago

Only one thing worse actorman - calling us STUPID for pointing out the obvious - a more full house> means a much higher vocal level of support = increased positive feed-back during the game for the coaches and players who are busting their butts everyday and, I might add, are more than doing their part in the effort to restore KU football as REAL KU FANS are wanting. By the way, have you any clue as to what the effect of a full stadium, or a full field house has on the performance by the athletes? No, I guessed not!

Ethan Berger 9 years, 9 months ago

Question. If our Basketball team started going through tough times, would KU students still show to the game? If so, then why are these same students not going to the football games or baling at half time? Or is it that out of the whole campus, are there only 2000 students who attend both through thick and thin?

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

Never understood what was so unappealing for the students about spending a Saturday tailgating and making Memorial Stadium a raucous, loud place on game day for a few hours. If they can't support the team as they turn this around, then continue to eat the verbal crap your KSU friends throw at you during football season.

Zstegs 9 years, 9 months ago

Honestly, we do have some of the most fickle fans in all of sports. We are spoiled rotten by our awesome basketball team and subsequently expect a winner in everything. But there were lots of people who came in planning to leave at half, that stayed the entire way and will be there Nov. 17th. As for me, well I still have no voice. At all.

John Mueller 9 years, 9 months ago

Hang on folks...

Were u people at the game?

It was a loud, supportive crowd. I have no voice.

Were you there for the deafening East side: "rock chalk" West side "Jayhawk" in the 2nd half?

Granted, the physical structure "very open" makes it difficult to create the noise of a done, but folks, that was a pretty damn good crowd for Kansas football....

Proud of the kids effort, I really am.

I sure wish they could have been rewarded with a win.

Out kids are much less gifted, size and speed, and, frankly, they outplayed Texas...

But, no moral victories.

Just some sad kids who deserve our respect , support and continued encouragement.


texashawk10 9 years, 9 months ago

Attendance was only 40,000 thousand today and there were definitely plenty of open seats on the east side of the stadium every time TV cameras showed the stands.

Jack Jones 9 years, 9 months ago

neworleans - Your post was accurate up until the word SO.

texashawk10 9 years, 9 months ago

KU has looked very competitive at home this year and not very competitive away from home. Next week we get to see how much of KU's road woes this year have been because of the quality of opponent or just KU's inability to play well away from home. Baylor's defense is atrocious, but they do have an offense capable of blowing KU away so we'll see if KU's defense can put up the performance against Baylor's offense that they have against OSU and UT's offenses.

lv_jhwk 9 years, 9 months ago

And not to be overly optimistic... but the UT offense did outscore Baylor's last week.

90sHawk 9 years, 9 months ago

We've got to get the ball in the endzone next week if we want to win that game. It's going to take touchdowns, and more than 1 or 2. Hope we are ready for a break out day on offense.

Code_2008 9 years, 9 months ago

If we didn't have a defense, then Texas should of scored 50 on us easily.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 9 months ago

How many red zone stops were there?

That's D, and KUhad it in the red-zone as well as elsewhere in shutting out UT for half the game.

actorman 9 years, 9 months ago

This proves once and for all that neworleans is a troll.

No one who saw that incredible goal line stand after KU turned the ball over in the red zone could possibly say that the KU defense was "not existent." (And nice command of the English language there, neworleans.)

overseasjhawk 9 years, 9 months ago

Points scored by UT this year: vs Wyoming - 37 vs UNM - 45 @ Ole Miss - 66 @ OSU - 41 vs WVU - 45 vs OU - 21 vs Baylor - 56 @ KU - 21

We held them to their lowest output of the year (in a tie with OU's defensive performance).

Move along.

johninkc1 9 years, 9 months ago

Our defense played great considering the differential in talent levels on KU and TU. Campo should know who he needs to replace and recruit accordingly. We have been competitive with 3 good teams this year-TCU, OSU and TU. How many teams were we competive with last year? Not many or any. All the games were like OU and KSU.

tical523 9 years, 9 months ago

I am seeing serious progress week by week, we are in good shape with this coaching staff as a whole and the coaches are figuring out which guys need to be on the field (except Patmon in my small opinion). Even with the prospect of one win I am excited for the rest of the season to see development and glimpses of the future, the next few years we may have a top LB core with the emergence of J Love. If anyone sees players, coaches or even managers out in about in Lawrence tell them you are proud of their effort and for building the base for the future. Rock chalk optimistic hawk!!!

John Mueller 9 years, 9 months ago

New Orleans is about right....

Were u at the game?

What game did u see?

There were 2 picks a goal line stand and the same team that scored 50 something last week scored 21 and had to convert a 4th and 6 to do it.

Dude- u have no clue.

And, we are talking about a team that was outweighed by prob 40 lbs o. The line of scrimmage on both sides .

The Texas players are HUGE.

Kansas kids played with a ton of heart. It wasn't good enough, but the athletic mismatch is clear. Kansas did outplay Texas from my vantage point considering the mismatch.

I don't believe in moral victories, but these kids have my total respect.

Mack Brown and his 6 star Houston Chronicle Top 100 pick of the litter talent were in a damn dogfight today against some undersized football players

troutsee 9 years, 9 months ago

We are getting better. We are getting tougher, mentally and physically.

I hate Texas.

But, I have 50 yd line tickets on the east side of the stadium and there were plenty of Texas fans sitting all around me and that really pisses me off. That means that Williams Fund fans sold there tickets to this game and they were snatched up by TU fans so I had to listen to hook 'em horns throughout the game. I had one extran ticket but I'll be damned if I am ever going to sell it. The last thing I want is for an opposing team fan to be sitting next to me. Yet, there were plenty of you Williams Fund fans that did not have consideration for your fellow Jayhawk fans and whored you tickets. Shame on you.

Over all, we played great and have made lots of progress. My only criticism is to the coach. If you have a QB than use him, don't turn him into a hand-off machine. Texas was on to us in the second half. A pass on first down might have been interesting. If you don't have confidence that you QB can complete a pass, then don't play him.

Nick Cole 9 years, 9 months ago

I'm sick of all these atta boys from all of you. No, you either win or you lose. If you win, atta boy, now go prep for next week. If you lose, shame on you. You made mistakes that gave the game away. You have had the lead in the 4th quarter how many times this year? And only won 1 of those games? Really? Not a good job. Yeay, we didn't get blown out. That isn't something to be proud of people. I know playing a close game is less embarrassing than getting hit for 70-7, but you have to win a game. Then another. Then some more after that. I support this team, I'll be there no matter what, but I'm also not gonna sit here and say good job fellas, you'll get em next time. No, we need to be pissed that we aren't winning these games. I'm pissed, and you should be too. If you aren't, you are the reason KU football is going to finish with only one win this season. Get MAD! VOICE YOUR OPINION!! I WON'T STAND FOR THIS CRAPPY FOOTBALL ANYMORE!!! WIN A FREAKING GAME FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. WIN A GOSH DARN CONFERENCE GAME. I'M TIRED OF WATCHING CRAPPY FOOTBALL IN KANSAS.

Rock Chalk

Jack Jones 9 years, 9 months ago

Now, Bleed, calm down - don't get your panties in a knot. "I WONT STAND FOR THIS CRAPPY.....etc,etc" And, pray tell me just what you will do in "NOT STANDING....."? Oh, I know, you will just continue whine, cry and be miserable.

Rivethead 9 years, 9 months ago

God I wish I could rec your reply more than once......

Dirk Medema 9 years, 9 months ago

If you won't "stand for it", does that mean you're going to sit down (and shut up)?

actorman 9 years, 9 months ago

Wouldn't it be great if fans had as much control over the outcome of a football game as Bleed apparently thinks we do?

Travis Shinkle 9 years, 9 months ago

Dude. Do you have any memory of the last few years?!? Do you know why winning this year is so tough? Look what the current coaching staff inherited: talent that probably wouldn't win much in the MAC let alone the Big XII.

What most of us are happy about is simply this: realistic expectations and this team is making strides each week and competing. Not a one of us expected to be 7-0 like our neighbors to the west; however, most of us DID hope is that this team would show improvement week in week out. So far it is. Are they winning? Not as much as we'd hope. But like others have said, KU has lost 4 games by 18...and some of those games were teams that put a 50, 60, or even a 70 spot on us last year. Again are we winning? No. Are we on the path? Absolutely.

Do you remember last year?!? Or 2010? or 2009?

railer20 9 years, 9 months ago

KSU is in Kansas and they don't play crappy football...why don't you go watch them!

Sayers44 9 years, 9 months ago

To be able to stay close to a high powered Texas with no passing game was because of the offensive line.

The Kansas offensive line was excellent. Blocking was incredible.

It is tough to win without passing but the O-Line almost pulled it off.

Good Work!

flyingfinn 9 years, 9 months ago

I agree with all that say we have to find a QB (hopefully Heaps) for next year and a consistant kicker. but I am encouraged that this team is making progress. I also remember sitting in the stands a few years back when Mangino played a Texas team very close with Young as their QB when we had trouble winning in his first years and then started to turn things around the following year. Charlie Weis knows what he is doing and will bring the Hawks back to better days. It started in the classroom and the weight room and has continue with a much better attitude on the field. There are better days ahead and I still believe a victory or two will happen this year.

Fototherapist 9 years, 9 months ago

Campo has done some incredible work this season. KU has definitely made some progress, and the one thing I'm starting to see is confidence. Just look at the faces of the players at the end of the game. They fully expected to win that game (and they really outplayed Texas for most of the game). Those looks of anger and disappointment will fuel the fire for next season. They now appear hungry. That is the right attitude to have to build a winning program.

rockchalknation 9 years, 9 months ago

This loss hurt....we outplayed a team with more talent for about 50 out of 60 minutes. The drivel I attached above makes not winning hurt a little more. It's really a shame not everyone gets to live in congested, hot, flat, and over-hyped Austin.

JakeBarnes 9 years, 9 months ago

The only thing worse than a Texas fan is a Texas A&M fan and the only thing worse than that is a sportswriter on a Texas newspaper. They all suffer from sports-ego elephantiasis with knowing what either term means. How would you like to be Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech stuck in a state with them????

Mike Barnhart 9 years, 9 months ago

The radio and tv talking heads (I'm talking to you WHB) can trash us all the want but if you actually WATCH THE GAMES it's obvious to see this team GETTING BETTER EVERY WEEK!

Keep your heads up boys, the wins are coming soon!

Jo Ann Ortgies Stork 9 years, 9 months ago

Yes, we are getting better every week. Even the student section who applauded the team's efforts on the field is something we didn't experience during the last two seasons. Most fans stayed until the end. It's too bad that a good many students didn't show up.

DB Ashton 9 years, 9 months ago

Considering Texas eternally has the pick of the litter and Mack Brown is the state's highest-paid public employee, this year's edition is just aweful. Mack should be backing up to the pay window for his $5 million. They were a grim bunch last year, as well, but embarrassed KU in Austin. I was there. Simply give-up dreadful. Yesterday's effort, in contrast, was real football. That's all I'm lookin' for. Well done, 'Hawks...

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