Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Jayhawks follow bad practice with good cause

Senior Elijah Johnson, (15) has a photograph taken with women attending Ladies Night Out with Bill Self in Allen Fieldhouse Wednesday evening, Oct. 24, 2012. Women got a chance to run drills, get their photographs taken with and receive one-on-one instruction in basketball from members of the Kansas University men's basketball team and staff.

Senior Elijah Johnson, (15) has a photograph taken with women attending Ladies Night Out with Bill Self in Allen Fieldhouse Wednesday evening, Oct. 24, 2012. Women got a chance to run drills, get their photographs taken with and receive one-on-one instruction in basketball from members of the Kansas University men's basketball team and staff.


Kansas University’s basketball team had its worst practice of the young 2012-13 season Wednesday afternoon in Allen Fieldhouse.

“We had a bad day today, but something positive came out of it. I think we got in better shape today,” KU coach Bill Self told 450 women who attended Wednesday’s “Ladies Night Out” cancer benefit in the fieldhouse.

Suffice it to say, KU’s 10th-year coach made the Jayhawks run a batch of penalty sprints during their two-hour workout.

“I’m not trying to be funny, but the way we practiced today, I think they (players) should be paying us,” Self added, answering one of the attendee’s questions about the play-for-pay issue in college athletics during a Q-and-A session.

So what was so disturbing about Wednesday’s pre-“Ladies Night Out” practice?

“It was beyond bad,” Self said. “We had bad play, bad effort, no energy, a combination of things. They don’t like me, and I don’t like them right now. What’s great about something like this is it brings everybody back to the real-life aspect of helping others. Our guys get a chance to do that tonight.”

Besides ... “Everybody has some bad practices now and then. If anything, I hope it gets our attention for a great day tomorrow,” Self said.

Following the Q and A, the attendees broke into individual stations, where the Jayhawks directed dribbling, passing, shooting and post-move drills. There also was a tour of the weight facility and opportunities for pictures and autographs from all the players and coaches.

“This does change the mood. We come out of the locker room and see all these smiling faces, it brings a lighter mood to the situation,” freshman forward Landen Lucas said. “This is awesome. It’s been a fun experience seeing how excited they are for basketball season. I think we appeal to all ages and everything. It’s definitely nice to know we have support from everyone.”

There was a light moment in the picture-taking portion of the evening when a woman hopped on senior Travis Releford’s back for a piggyback ride.

“That doesn’t surprise me. He’s a senior,” freshman forward Andrew White III said of the popular senior guard from Kansas City, Mo. “This is a lot of fun. I think it’s a good opportunity just for these women to have a good time, learn some things about our team. I never get tired of the support. It’s good for everybody.”

Proceeds were donated to Lawrence Memorial Hospital and the KU Cancer Center in an effort to fund cancer research.

“It’s a great night,” Self said. “So many people come because breast cancer has touched them in some form or fashion. We have many cancer survivors here tonight. We’re proud to be part of this.”

Injury update: KU freshman guard Evan Manning continues to wear a boot on his right foot. He has been unable to practice in preparation for Tuesday’s exhibition opener versus Emporia State.

“Evan had a setback. He was out six weeks with a high ankle sprain, now it’s moved into a different location,” Self said of a hot spot in Manning’s foot. “We’re hopeful he’ll be back relatively soon. He hasn’t shown great progress in the last week. It still may be another week or two.”

Freshman Zach Peters has yet to practice this season because of a rotator cuff injury in his left shoulder and is not expected back soon. On Oct. 11, it was announced he’d be out four to six weeks because of the injury. There’s been no decision made on possibly red-shirting the power forward from Plano, Texas.

Upcoming show: About 100 tickets have been sold for the Nov. 1 Courtside View panel discussion at Crown Toyota Pavilion in Lawrence. It will feature Self, Jay Bilas and other national college basketball writers/broadcasters. Information is available at


Jeremy Bolinger 9 years, 6 months ago

Coach Self is a class act. This team, this group of guys, has the potential to build something very special. Thank God it's finally back!

Joe Satterwhite 9 years, 6 months ago

Had to know this was coming...been hearing so many good things about the team, that this was bound to happen...

chriz 9 years, 6 months ago

Oh, but it hurts so good. Beat 'em down, coach.

AndOne 9 years, 6 months ago

Just wondering - did Zach Peters' injury come from playing football his senior year?

Jack Wilson 9 years, 6 months ago

A couple things on Peters -

  1. Curious how notabandwagonfan knows it wasn't related to football. A link or something you saw? Not that it matters, I guess.

  2. From late night, there was this quote from the article: "The number ended with Perry Ellis and Zach Peters picking up walk-on Tyler Self and throwing him into the air in a gymnastics-like dismount." Obviously curious how/why a guy with a rotator cuff injury is participating. I just don't know.

  3. Redshirting Peters is an interesting possibility. Would rather do that than have a season where he is slowed, not able to fully perform, etc. But if our other options aren't showing much and he is able to play effectively, we can't redshirt him. Jamari Traylor and Landen Lucas must feel blessed with opportunity, given this injury and lack of bigs in this recruiting class thusfar. Huge opportunity.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 6 months ago

Things like #2 and Zach's play during the Europe trip would seem to be sufficient evidence that it was a more recent injury.

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 6 months ago

In the press conference on October 11/12, Bill Self referenced a nagging injury. So the start of it possibly could have occurred during the football season, but it'd be difficult to find out for sure. They hold some of those medical records so close now.

My guess is it got banged up in football, and now he keeps irritating it.

I'm hoping that Bill analyzed his team and thought this might be the best excuse to get Peters to Red-Shirt and get an extra solid year out of him.

702Hawk 9 years, 6 months ago

It doesn't seem like it would be given he made it through football then high school basketball to win state then through summer pick up games and then through all of the Europe trip. HCBS has stated the Zach has a particular style of play that uses it and if not there he wouldn't have been as effective across the pond.

There is a chance that there was an injury that he got during football that that heeled but something brought it back, kind of like Sam Bradford. But until we are told more information we should assume it was a recent injury. It doesn't have to be from sports or doing something dumb. My pops tore his from a bone spur that slowly cut his ligaments every time he moved his arm.

I know that a lot of people want these kids to focus in on a single sport but give a break and let them have fun.

Chris Shaw 9 years, 6 months ago

Let's hope that piggyback ride didn't end in epic failure by running into a wall.

Michael Pannacciulli 9 years, 6 months ago

He is so blunt. In a age of double talk I find his comments refreshing.

REHawk 9 years, 6 months ago

Speaking of Bill's gift for doubletalk, I think if he had run as a popular 3rd party presidential candidate, he might have put both the current candidates to shame in this year's series of televised debates. No question that his disarming smile would have captured 80% of the female vote.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 6 months ago

i would think yes to at least to keep his cardio up and legs toned while listening to all the coaching.

Ryan Knuth 9 years, 6 months ago

Well I would have imagine that if his injury had come when he was playing football that he would not have been able to play basketball that following winter... and then play again in the Summer during the tour. Unless he has become a giant wuss in the last few months I would have to think that the injury is quite fresh.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 6 months ago

The explanation for the bad practice is simple...our boys were looking forward to an evening in Allen filled with Kansas hottie cougars!!

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 6 months ago

Why is Indiana rated so high this year?

KGphoto 9 years, 6 months ago

Because Cody Zeller is related to Tyler Zeller and Tyler gets non-stop face time on ESPN because he played at North Carolina. :/

They also have a 5 star PG Kevin Ferrell coming in, and two other 4 star guys, to go with their pre-season overrated POY. The Zeller feller.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 6 months ago

I follow the Big 10 and I'm perplexed by it too. My fellow Badger friends are writing the same thing on their message boards.

Jeff Kilgore 9 years, 6 months ago

Did you see either UK-Indiana game last year? IU returns that squad. They should be a great team.

Curtis Stutz 9 years, 6 months ago

Ya, as much as I don't care for UNC and the hype around their Zeller last year, Cody Zeller kind of outplayed AD twice last season. I feel like there's a bit of a double standard on them losing to UK in the tourney just 'cause it was earlier, but you did see how many points they put up on them right? They took a few too many jump shots last year for my taste (of course they shot it well) but bringing in Ferrell to distribute could make a huge difference and Zeller will have another season to bulk up a little. They lost one guy, and he was streaky, they are going to be good. There's no doubt the B1G is gonna be tough this year, 'cause of OSU, Michigan, and IU. Also factor in that Crean is a solid coach. Not sure there's a team out there that wouldn't trade their front line for Watford/Zeller honestly. Obviously we're all attached to Withey and have huge aspirations for Ellis, but as far as this season goes, they've got the best frontcourt starters in the country.

KGphoto 9 years, 6 months ago

Considering the mention of Evan Manning's injury, I suppose this is as good a place as any. I'm trying to keep an eye on Tulsa this year. They have a ton of freshmen (probably having bad practices too.) and are being picked near last in Conference USA. They play Emporia State this Saturday at the very cool Reynolds Center in Tulsa. Should be interesting to see how they do. We play ESU 3 days later for a little comparison.

Go Danny! Go Golden Hurricane!

JayHok 9 years, 6 months ago

The Kansas city star online version is blowing up with funny comments back and forth between KU and MIZ-ZerO fans. MIZ-ZerO fans aren't too excited about one of their employees getting caught spending $7,000 at a strip club on a MIZ-ZerO credit card.

The $2,000 tip is comical. This says more about MIZ-ZerO than anything else MIZ-ZerO has done since joining the SEC. There's only one thing he was paying for with a $2,000 tip and it wasn't for the stripper to come to his hotel room to blow dry her hair.

I'm sure the MIZ-ZerO taxpayers are excited to see they paid for a MIZ-ZerO employee to do some special things in a hotel room with a special person. It has to be lovely for them to realize this has probably happened several times, and bittersweet to know as MIZ-ZerO taxpayers it's only the first time for a MIZ-ZerO employee to be caught. Several are questioning if Haith or Drinkel or any recruits were in on this adventure. Of course as expected MIZ-ZerO damage control was out quickly, claiming this man traveled alone.

Highly doubtful (possibly unheard of?) to fly to Vegas all alone for a university function without at least one or two other employees. One thing can be confirmed. He had his own hotel room but not this night.

702Hawk 9 years, 6 months ago

Being born and raised in Las Vegas I feel the need to inform or remind everyone of Nevada law. Prostitution is illegal in any county with a population over 400,000. Clark County, were Las Vegas is, is well over that number.

But this is fitting for Mizzou fan. Spending all their time and money but at the end of the night they don't get any satisfaction, eg. Northfolk State. Or the year we won the Orange bowl.

Oh how thinking of all their short comings makes me laugh.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 6 months ago

Prostitution illegal Can't get paid for sex. But the same woman can walk down the street into a movie "studio" and get paid for .. guess what .. sex. Hmmm.

JayHok 9 years, 6 months ago

Yes. There is something unique about a MIZ-ZerO employee hoping the taxpayers of the state would cover his intercourse bill without them ever finding out about it.

How incredible that he didn't get terminated from MIZ-ZerO. Or is it?

I'm sure Drinkel's wife and Haith's wife are really excited to know they are part of this university structure.

Mick Allen 9 years, 6 months ago

Drinkel's wife jumped ship. I believe their divorce is final.

JayHok 9 years, 6 months ago

This MIZ-ZerO credit card bill could explain what happened to Drinkel's wife.

Curtis Stutz 9 years, 6 months ago

So Wiggins reclassification is apparently official. Can only be good news for KU as far as I'm concerned, unless he somehow manages to steal every other KU recruiting target and convince them to go to FSU or something crazy. I've expressed my lower expectations for '13-14 so the '13 class may as well be stacked with talent. Plus then there's a little better chance of guys like Selden coming back for another year.

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