Thursday, July 12, 2012


Jeff Withey working toward shot at NBA


— Google “David Stern” and “smug” and 238,000 results pop up in 0.27 seconds. That’s the price the NBA commissioner pays for all that exposure he gets announcing the first-round draft choices and for being, well, smug.

When Stern announced, “With the 11th pick in the 2012 NBA draft, the Portland Trail Blazers select Meyers Leonard from the University of Illinois,” my mind went instantly to Jeff Withey: Could he have gone in that spot had he decided to skip his final season at Kansas? I wonder if Withey’s mind went there at that instant, too, as he watched the draft from KU coach Bill Self’s house.

“No,” Withey said after working as a counselor at Cole Aldrich’s camp in the Olathe Northwest High gymnasium. “I knew he was going to go pretty high, actually. I’m happy with my decision.”

That’s appropriate. By returning to Kansas, Withey doesn’t have to wonder whether he’ll play. As long as he stays out of foul trouble, he’ll get 30 minutes a game, get showered with the worship of Allen Fieldhouse spectators, earn his degree and improve his game.

No telling where Withey would have been drafted, but it’s difficult to imagine he could have enjoyed next season as much in the NBA as he will playing for his school, a veteran on a team sporting eight newcomers.

“The draft was kind of a gamble,” Withey said. “Perry Jones went pretty late and Tyler Zeller. It was just a weird draft, and I’m happy I came back. I get to prove to everybody one more year that I deserve to be there, and I’m going to make the most of it.”

One way he’ll do that is by expanding his offensive repertoire, becoming more difficult to guard, extending the range on his jumper.

“It’s something I’ve been working on this whole summer,” Withey said. “That trail shot (on the break), last year, T-Rob hit it. The year before that, the twins. The year before that, Cole, so it’s definitely in our system.”

All four of those players became lottery picks, and all four were threats to score from the blocks and the perimeter by the time they left the program.

“If I can knock down that 15-footer, that definitely puts more pressure on the defense,” Withey said. “They can’t sag off and double-team the post. It’s just another threat.”

Withey had a .795 accuracy rate from the free-throw line last season, so it’s not a question of his shooting touch.

“It’s all about confidence,” he said. “Just catch the ball, and you’re not thinking twice, just shoot it. I’ve gotten a lot better in pick-up and practice. I’m definitely happy with that, and I’m going to keep on working to make it automatic.”

Thomas Robinson extended the range on his jumper during his third and final season of college basketball. Once defenses responded to that, he added the wrinkle of pump-faking and driving to the hoop. At 7-foot-1, Withey’s not as close to the ground, so that move won’t be as easy for him to develop, but he said he’ll try to perfect it.

Withey averaged 9 points, 6.3 rebounds and 3.6 blocks (fourth in the nation) as a junior, when Robinson and guard Tyshawn Taylor were the primary scorers.

During a three-game, six-day stretch in February against Baylor, Oklahoma State and Kansas State, an angry, motivated, ultra-aggressive Withey averaged 20.3 points, 12 rebounds and 6.3 blocks, and then returned to previous levels of production. The ball will come his way more consistently this season.

“My role is going to change dramatically,” he said, “from not having to worry about scoring to being one of the top three scorers on the team, so it’s definitely going to be a fun experience. In high school, I scored 25 a game, so just getting that confidence back will be big.”

One of the nation’s most improved college basketball players last season, Withey hasn’t come close to reaching his ceiling. He’ll get closer and closer as his final season progresses, and he’ll move higher and higher in the draft.


Andy Hess 10 years, 1 month ago

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Andy Hess 10 years, 1 month ago

Ooooh, I'm terrified. How about moron? Think that'll get removed? God forbid I mock you on your amazingly insightful comment that is totally relevant to the article. Maybe next time you can actually contribute something other than letting everyone know that you were the first to comment on a freaking article.

Andy Hess 10 years, 1 month ago

just know that regardless of whether or not the comment is posted, YOU are what is wrong with the internet today.

Andy Hess 10 years, 1 month ago

I should amend my statement to include both the "first" guy AND grown men who say "bro."

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 1 month ago

Overall, I thought Aldrich was a superior player then Withey at the same point in their careers.

Will Withey continue to improve? Even with hard work, there is no guarantee although I think he will. Still I don't see him playing at the next level.

I think he will get drafted but not nearly as high as Cole was will be lucky if he gets a second contract. And I'll be happy to be wrong.

Michael Pannacciulli 10 years, 1 month ago

Since Pollard is always hanging around the team...why not put him to work with these young post guys...

Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

If Withey makes the NBA it will be half because of a lot of hard work this off season and half because he finds and utilizes the buffet!

Withey has the height, length, defensive skills, and athletic ability to play in the NBA. It is essential that he puts on 20 or so good pounds. Maybe more? He needs to be a bit better at rebounding and some weight will help that.

Ben Kliewer 10 years, 1 month ago

Let me start by saying that I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. But at the same time, I don't think Whithey will have any trouble being drafted by an NBA team. If you're a 7 footer and you can walk and chew gum at the same time, the NBA will draft you on potential. The thing is, in order to stay on an NBA team, he'll have to do those things, and I believe that's what you meant by "If Whithey makes it in the NBA." Just throwing in my 2 cents... that's what these boards are for, right?

Michael Pannacciulli 10 years, 1 month ago

Withey is as good as his legs will allow him to be. If they hold up he is a lottery pick. He will have a pro career. His attitude is awesome. He needs more offense and girth...cuz he won't get faster or have the athleticism of a Durant.

Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

Kleave... I mostly agree but there are certainly 7 footers like Chenowith and Bennett (KSU) who couldn't make the cut. That being said, you're more than likely correct about Withey getting drafted and getting a chance. I wasn't clear about it, but I was referring to him being a decent NBA player. WIthey VS Howard right now would not be pretty!

Ben Kliewer 10 years, 1 month ago

No, of course, I got what you meant. Although, I wouldn't necessarily say Chenowith could walk and chew gum at the same time. And it seems his work ethic progressively dropped off each year at Kansas. Just from an observational standpoint, whereas Jeff's has gotten better. But, much love goes out to Eric either way.

HawkKlaw 10 years, 1 month ago

It's not a question of "if" Withey makes it to the NBA. He's going to be a first-rounder, probably even a top 10 pick. Yes, he needs to add weight and work on his scoring, but that won't keep him from getting drafted. As a big man that can defend really well, there are already GM's in the NBA salivating over the chance to draft him.

nuleafjhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

I am a huge fan of Jeff Withey and I was so impressed with him last year. There is no way we go to the NC game without his shot-blocking and free throw efficiency last year. Now if he can just figure out how to "thunder-dunk". lol

As well as he played, and as much as he surprised people last year, I think he's going to surprise us even more this year. Temporarily disregarding some of the other "watches" regarding other players - we might want to be on "Withey Watch" this year.


jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Jeff will be lucky to come out of the Cheegan State game out of the infirmary, unless...

a) Jeff has put on some muscle; b) Jamari Traylor is as tough as his rep; c) Ellis and Peters understand D1 violence in a way most freshman don't; d) Self shows them videos of the contracts Don Ratso put out on Cole and the twins; or e) all of the above.

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Its official. Keegs is not looking for a job with the NBA. :-)

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Regarding Meyers Leonard, any footer that can play well in D1 without a coach has got a good shot in the L.

Meyers Leonard played for Bruce Webber.

That means he played with out a coach.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 1 month ago

So this is my concern with Withey and the 2012-2013 squad (BTW-I am as excited about this squad and the next two or three squads as I have ever been for KU hoops). Look, last year there was a handful of posters including myself that thought Jeff Withey would be just fine last season. Despite many of the doubters I kept saying that increased responsbility, increased playing time, playing alongside T-Rob and a sense of ownership to continue the KU excellence would allow Jeff Withey to thrive in Self's system.

Now, even with more of the scoring responsibility, I don't see Jeff Withey having the same type of season as he did last year. I think that if Withey takes on the extra scoring load that 1) His offensive exploits will be shown even more (hurt his stock in the eyes of the NBA) and 2) take away from his defensive presence (Which is the reason he is going to have a long NBA career in the first place).

I think Perry Ellis, Traylor, and Peters will be great compliments, but they aren't T-Rob! For some reason I just feel that Withey's weaknesses will be shown more this year and thus hurt his stock for the NBA next year. I would be shocked if Jeff Withey was a Top 5 pick, but much in the same manner that Jared Sullinger went from a #1 or #2 (Top 5 pick) and fell into the low 20's the next year...................I think Jeff Withey may be in that same category. I hope I am wrong, but just my opinion and two cents. I just think that if Withey takes on more responsbility in the scoring department...............that that hinders his success going forward. I still think he needs to be a plan C or D on offense and roam around defensively doing his thing.

yovoy 10 years, 1 month ago

I'll play...Do you take The Twins (a la '10-'11) and T-Rob ('10-'11) OR D-Jack, D-Arthur, and Cha-Cha Kaun (all '08)? You must take the compliment of guards that played with those guys during those years too.

I don't know the answer, but it seems that the time between The Champs and the emergence of The Twins, we were pretty "thin" at most positions. Makes it all the more incredible that we kept winning the conference if you think about it. I guess that as far as guard play we (sort of) had Sherron and some other dudes, but nothing like we had in '08 or what we should have this and next year.

KD, I guess I'm saying that I agree with your final paragraph. OurSelf will mold his team to get what the team needs from where he feels he can get it. I DO think that if we can get consistent guard play that the floor might be a bit more "open" for Withey in the half-court. He'll have to be able to hit from the short corner in face-up situations, and I imagine that he'll hone some of the post moves he's worked on up to this point, and I'm guessing that he'll develop a couple of new ones.

I didn't think that Withey was that big of a project; I just thought he had durability issues. Hard to show your stuff when you're not 100%. I think we saw out of him what we'd missed when he'd been injured. Even if he's more "exposed" due to the absence of T-Rob, I think he's capable of putting up the kind of numbers the team needs from him for the team to be successful. I'd guess he can get 6-8 from "bunnies", another 6-10 from FT, and maybe 2-6 from off the block, facing up. So he should be able to get us 12-20 nightly without having to "blow up", and I'd guess that he might only do that once or twice next season. The team lost double-digit rebounds in T-Rob, and I'd think that Withey should be able to have close to 10 a game, so if we can get some points from the rest of the cast Withey/U.K.U. might be okay. I've got a football season to watch until hoops starts anyway.

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

We have gotten so used to Self pulling rabbits out of the hat that we forget how fraught with uncertainty each season is at the beginning.

Last year seemed a potential disaster due to lack of depth.

This year seems a potential disaster due to lack of experienced muscle inside.

Such is life in the fast lane of D1.

Bill gets the bucks for finding ways to make use of guys like the Twins, Thomas and TRob.

Sometimes he makes them carry the load.

Sometimes he spreads it around.

I am not ready to say about Jeff until I see how much,if any, weight he has put on.

I know only this: No big man can be effective, if he does not have another big man good enough to make the other team guard them both.

Thomas very likely would not have been a lottery pick at all, had Jeff not developed as much as he did.

Jeff needs someone to develop as much as Jeff developed last season.

And Jeff needs to develop as much as Thomas developed last season.

If we intend to go far.

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Note: no big man outside of Wilt grad big men.

HawkKlaw 10 years, 1 month ago

"Thomas very likely would not have been a lottery pick at all, had Jeff not developed as much as he did."

I get your point, but TRob probably would have been a lottery pick regardless of what Withey did (or, at the very least, a first-rounder). You could tell from his Sophomore season that he was basically a more explosive version of Jared Sullinger (without all the minutes). I expected him to be one of the best PF's in the country, regardless of what Withey did. In fact, I didn't expect much from Jeff at all, other than him being a big body in the paint. I know he made TRob's job easier, but I bet there are a few GM's that expected the same out of TRob as I did, regardless of how well Jeff Withey played. Even if his stats weren't as gaudy as they ended up being, he would've been drafted very high on "potential" (pretty common thing for NBA teams to do).

Displayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

My question is whether Withey can continue to improve without having the best big man coach in the world (Danny Manning) coaching him???

Chris Shaw 10 years, 1 month ago

I think the question is whether or not Withey has the motor to do it offensively and defensively with the second best player in the country (T-Rob) gone?

REHawk 10 years, 1 month ago

Well, my preseason stance last year was, "If Jeff Withey develops to the point that he can start and play major minutes, this team is going to be really good." His progress made for a super season, his blocks thwarting the offense of the #1 player in the country by the April NCAA Final. My hope his senior season is for him to add 3 or 4 points per game to his scoring, and continue on the upward path toward establishing alltime NCAA block records. It stands to reason that we should get double digit scoring most games from BenMac, Perry, EJ and Travis. Toss in a steady 12-13 pts. from Jeff, and this squad should be difficult to defend. Any one of these players could contribute 20+ pts. on a given night. McLemore might do it often. With chances for more efficient midrange and outside shooting this season, Jeff probably will not get the defensive heat that our bigs received a year ago. When doubled, he's going to have to learn to draw fouls, to punish opponents from the stripe. I should think that mastering the talent to get to the line might be his best offensive focus this season.

KemDooKU 10 years, 1 month ago

Meyers was a beast in the middle - a serious banger so that's why he went so high. The NBA is not for the soft if you have not been watching - Jeff is a little more finess but that being said the guy has length which can't be coached. If he wants the NBA then he needs to get nasty and his teammates should not have to fire him up to get there.....he needs to do it all by himself. As the ex Chiefs coach said to Larry - "it's time to take the diapers off".

Tony Bandle 10 years, 1 month ago

Respectfully, have any of you seen what passes for basketball at the NBA level lately??

It makes the Michigan State Rizzo Riot look like The Little Sisters of the Poor taking in homeless orphans.

It makes WWF Wrestling look like recess at the Day Care Center complete with milk, cookies and a nap.

It makes NASCAR look like a Cub Scout Soap Box Derby whereby no one gets hurt and everybody gets a trophy.

It makes NFL Football look like....well,...NFL Football without pads

It is a harsh, brutal, physical grind where the contact rule for a foul is no broken bones poking through skin, no foul!! Jeff needs to gear up for nightly gladiator warfare with very large, powerful men who are also very, very mean!! He needs to train and be prepared to be attacked.

Jeff's Doctor Jeykl will need to turn into Mr. Hyde!!!!!

Sam Constance 10 years, 1 month ago

"It is a harsh, brutal, physical grind where the contact rule for a foul is no broken bones poking through skin, no foul!!"

Unless your name is Lebron James or Dwyane Wade, in which case, the slightest breath of air from a defender's movement is grounds for a foul.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 1 month ago

I know that Jeff Withey improved a lot last year, but he wasn't even the most improved player on KU's team last year. TRob was. Don't forget TRob went from being a bench player that probably averaged a foul every 2 mins with limited scoring and known only for rebounding to the only concensus All-American and according to all major reports the second best player in college last year.

Jeff Withey will need to continue to improve, but his success is dependent on the entire team stepping up as well. We have some gaps to fill (e.g. PG and PF) are clearly the top two.

Freedman Moor 10 years, 1 month ago

So Withey is 7'1" now?

Its hilarious how heights change so much in basketball. When I saw the '12 Olympic basketball team picuture, a few things hit me: Kevin Love is a lot shorter than I realized; Blake Griffin is a lot taller than I realized; and I have no clue of how tall KD and Lebron really are. Lebron and Carmello are both listed as 6'8" and KD is listed as 6'9", but Carmello looks taller than both of them.

I saw a site listing Elijah Johnson (who is clearly taller than Tyshawn Taylor) as 6'2". Tyshawn Taylor, who measured 6'2" (and some change) without shoes at the predraft workouts (and 6"4" with shoes) is taller than Bradley Beal who was listed as 6'5" prior to the draft. WTF knows!

Beate Williams 10 years, 1 month ago

My personal opinion is that Coach Self establishes the foundation for all the players, be they PG, SG, PF or Centers. I believe that with that foundation the assistant coaches can then do their speacialty, e.g., Danny with the big man can develop the moves, the techniques the position requires to be successful. I say this in an effort to dismiss any idea that because Danny is gone the big men will not get the teaching they need to be vicious in the middle. Everyone who has watched Self for any period of time realizes that he teaches toughness, that is not going to change now that Danny is gone. A great deal of the execution of that toughness come from within the player and if the player does not have the desire to go to the next level, that player will not execute.

I believe Jeff has seen what it takes and I believe Jeff wants it, therefore, I look for a very good year from Jeff and it will probably be more impressive than a great many people think because of all the weapons he will have around him. This team has weapons, including; speed, shooters, bangers, leepers, defenders, experience, youth, Self and we must not forget how significant Hudy is to all of this.

I'm sort of rambling here, but I really believe Jeff will have an outstanding season and will have folks talking about him throughout the year and I expect many references to last year's championship game. I, again my personal opinion, believe that Sullinger sank because of questions regarding his health and because his season did not meet expectations because he did not have the coaching necessary to improve on his natural abilities.

Can't wait for the season to get here. BTW, the Houston Chronicle had an article on Marcus the other day, hopefully this will let you access it:

actorman 10 years, 1 month ago

"Google 'David Stern' and 'smug' and 238,000 results pop up in 0.27 seconds."

Does anyone else find it strange that Keegan would misspell his own name as "David Stern?"

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

"Looking at REHawk's Critical Assumptions, or Seanie Would You Gas Up the Ranger for Eddie and Bill to Go Trolling?"

Part 1

REHawk, your take above seems the clearest, most distilled forecast of how Self might use his first five.

So: I decided to dig in and analyse your critical assumptions.

Two seem paramount:

a) this year's perimeter scoring, especially outside shooting percentage, will improve significantly over last year and so reduce the wing doubling of Jeff that Thomas endured; and

b) Perry ( some combination of Perry and someone) can deliver at the 4 at a level of a 12/6 guy, while guarding his position at Self grade, so as to keep guys from doubling Jeff full time with a big, and making them pay when they do.

dtdjayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

Perhaps EJ took the amount of time off to rehab because he has had the time to do need to rush

dtdjayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

^ the above comment was meant to be under part 2

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Part 2

Regarding Assumption A: BenMac should make us way better on the drive and from 3 than EJ was at the 2 last season, because of EJ's knee injury. Travis should be better at the 3 on the drive and from trey, because he was badly injured last season. So far so good for Assumption A. Now to EJ. EJ has to outperform Tyshawn from the 1 for us to be better there. Much of this depends on whether EJ recovers from his injury. EJ has taken a full three months to rehab from a reputed scope. Tyshawn took a week to recover and he played immediately.

EJ Knee Inference 1: EJ had a much, more complicated and potentially more serious knee injury than Tyshawn had.

EJ Knee Inference 2: They didn't operate on it last season, because the doctor's knew it was going to take the kind of cuts that would require a couple of months to recover from.

EJ Knee Inference 3: EJ's knee injury was serious, even though he could and did play on it. Conclusion:

EJ Knee Inference Conclusion: There is significant possibility that he may not ever be 100%, in which case he cannot hope to match Tyshawn's spectacular season last year either on the drive, or from Trey. But there is a significant possibility, maybe even a probability, that he will recover 100 percent. If he recovers fully, is it reasonable to expect that he will have a better season than Tyshawn had?

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Part 3

IMHO Tyshawn had one of the greatest seasons a KU PG has ever had. The entire season he was able to get to the rim, or the FT line, almost at will. For a large part of the season, he was probably the best trey shooting PG in the country (i.e., he was shooting 45-50% from trey for about two months at one stretch). The only reason his season is not referred to as unparalleled is that he finally had a long deep slump from trey down the stretch. This is what EJ has to exceed, or at least equal for your critical assumption about KU's perimeter scoring to be valid.

I want to believe EJ can have that kind of a season. EJ healthy is likely to be the first, or second, most extraordinarily athletic tall PG KU has ever had. He is, like Tyrell Reed, such a good natural shooter that he can even shoot in the mid 30s percentage range on a bad wheel. If he were healthy, he could easily shoot 40%m from trey as a PG and so smoke even Tyshawn's great shooting season last year. But will he be healthy? If he were 100%, then I think there would be a reasonable chance he could uncork a great season, as Tyshawn did. But there is a difference between EJ and Tyshawn. Tyshawn was good enough to start for four seasons. EJ has been a late bloomer. It is a lot to ask, even of a great natural athlete, as EJ obviously is, to equal, or exceed, what Tyshawn did last season, when EJ is only starting his first season as a full time, starting D1 PG. If anyone could pull it off, it would be EJ, but I just don't think it would be fair to him to expect him to uncork something like that from the first game. Whatever, it will be one of the great and exciting challenges to watch a great KU athlete try to rise to meet. Go, EJ, go!!!!

Next, let's consider your critical assumption about Perry Ellis.

Perry has to become a credible Bill Self Ball power forward capable of 12/6 plus defense, and be able to take enough heat off Withey to let Jeff continue to focus on defense, even as Jeff amps his scoring up to 12-15 ppg as a senior.

This is a taaaaaaaall order.

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Part 4

Marcus Morris is the only guy that was put in this position as a freshman. And if you recall, Marcus, though he showed signs of being able to guard his position from early on, struggled mightily until mid season. And even then he got smoked frequently. By the end of the freshman season, Marcus had transformed into a credible garbage man 4 who could get his 6-8 boards and scavenge 8-9 ppg. This was okay, because Self decided to play through Sherron outside (15 FTAs per game) and Cole inside for the rest, while Brady shot open look treys at 40 percent.

Is it realistic to think that Perry is good enough to exceed what Marcus did as a freshman? Is it realistic to expect Perry to become a go to guy from the start, so that Jeff can focus on defense and swatting, and only have to ramp up his scoring a little? Based on recruiting reputation, I suppose it is. Perry was considered one of the very best players in the country his last season in high school, probably significantly higher ranked than Marcus. I don't know. Freshman like Perry at UK jump in and move mountains. But they seem to have a lot less to learn in Cal's system. Self's play book is a thousand pages. Cal's seem to be skip, skip, dribble drive, dunk.

So regarding Perry, as regarding EJ outside, I see some serious risks about the feasibility of your forecast for how Self will try to play his first five chess pieces and the likely results.

On the other hand, your approach seems the most logical way, and so the most probable way for Self to try to fit the pieces together.

My guess is that Bill Self and Joe, Kurtis and Doc are skulling big time to figure out a way to play the High-Low that lets BenMac and Travis become frequent scoring threats without clogging things up inside for the two bigs. This has for the last several seasons been the only enduring, pesky to solve problem with Self's high-low. Its great for playing a down the middle game with a PG and a post as first and second options. Its also great if you want to turn the game over to the perimeter guys and spread scoring around among them, and let the bigs just focus on put backs. But so far, anyway, Self has not been able to find out how to have his cake and eat it, too, with the high-low. He has not been able to figure a way to get the wings penetrating without clogging up the middle for the two bigs.

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Part 5

This, Mr. Phelps, and your Impossible Missions force, is what has to happen for Self Ball to take the next nonlinear leap in "getting better."

It may be time for Bill to go down and go fishing with Eddie on Grand Lake of the Cherokees.

There are still bigger fish to fry, more getting better to do, with the Tumble Weed Buddhism approach to college basketball on offense, anyway.


Could you have Seanie scoot the Ranger over to the marina and gas it up. This may take a full day of trolling to work out.

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

Post Script: Those that have grown up with Tom Cruise's Ethan, can substitute accordingly for the Jim Phelps allusion from the old Bruce Geller TV classic intro.

REHawk 10 years, 1 month ago

So many huge IFS seem always to rear their puzzling heads during this stage of the offseason. The state of EJ's knee might be the biggest concern of all, as this squad goes through the gelling process prior to January league play. That along with questions regarding the 4 position seem to be the two major areas for best hopes. I feel confident that BenMac will lunge from the gate as a ready bigtime contributor. Though less confident about the quick development of Perry Ellis, I foresee enough of a supporting cast at the 4 to relieve him from the level of expectations with which Marcus was faced during his freshman campaign. Perry has arrrived at Kansas with a stronger h.s. resumee than either of the twins. He will have earned the opportunity to travel to Europe with his team, gleaning benefit of summer play for which the twins were ineligible. And I would like to think that he left his airsoft armament in the closet of his home in Wichita, or perhaps donated it to adolescent cousins before he packed necessary equipment for life in Jayhawk Towers. If the likes of Ratzo Izzo don't lure us into banging and thumping battles this season, I look forward to a very different style of play than we have seen on previous Bill Self squads at KU. Outside of occasional quick slashing, I really really hope to see high percentage shooting from 13' and beyond by March.

OSUjayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

I am very excited about Withey coming back. I think we'd all agree that his talents have yet to be fully developed and tapped, but I really believe that by the end of this year Withey will not only be ready for the NBA, but will be have T. Rob type discussions about tournament MVP should our young 'hawks mature enough over the course of the season to make a solid run.

One of my favorite things about KU - we ALWAYS have a shot!

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

REHawk, thanks for your response. You get my juices flowing and its still July!!!!

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago

And how the devil did I forget to mention Norm Roberts in the skulling sessions?

Norm Roberts is a smart cookie. We lost alot with Danny leaving, but we got alot with Norm.

Norm Roberts and Bill put together some smart, innovative teams at Tulsa and Illinois and Norm was around when Simien turned from great potential to solid gold and money in the paint. And if Jeff Withey were open to Norm's NYC street smarts, Jeff could get alot better just from that. A player can learn a lot from any good coach, if he will listen. If Norm can coach Wayne Simien over the hump, he can coach Jeff Withey over it too.

Thad Daugherty 10 years, 1 month ago

I was happy to hear Withey say while he was at one of the camps he realized he needed to speed up his game and get to the hole faster for his dunks.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 1 month ago

Most blocks in an NCAA tourney, that is something. Damn he was good.

yovoy 10 years, 1 month ago

I've been thinking about the MSU game: anyone think that we might be able to just "run" past them? I know it's not 'characteristic' of OurSelf (esp at that time of the season), but something odd like that could be the ticket.

If we are getting up and down, getting points in transition, it won't be as easy for them to smashmouth us. The BabyHawks could get a little cushion that way, and make Izzo's boys play a bit out of their comfort zone.

Steve Brown 10 years, 1 month ago

This time last year I predicted 19 w before post season KC tournament. Wrong! If you had said we will win the conference and make final four, I would have asked what two new player transfers arrived. Wrong again.

What I too often forget; talent + experience + coaching + rock chalk chant = the right to earn championships, not once in a while but every season.

West Virgina, TCU take a number get in line, welcome to Kansas basketball.

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