Kansas defeats Texas, 69-66

  • 3 p.m., Jan. 21, 2012
  • Frank Erwin Center, Austin, TX

Sunday, January 22, 2012

Emotional rescue: KU, Thomas Robinson hold it together, edge Texas

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor, right, gets a bump from teammate Naadir Tharpe after the Jayhawks' 69-66 win over Texas on Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012 at the Frank Erwin Center.

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor, right, gets a bump from teammate Naadir Tharpe after the Jayhawks' 69-66 win over Texas on Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012 at the Frank Erwin Center.


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Tyshawn Taylor and Thomas Robinson

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— Thomas Robinson answered his wake-up call shortly after 10 a.m. Saturday in his AT&T; Executive Center hotel room, flipped on the TV and was surprised to see his picture on the screen.

Kansas University’s junior forward from Washington, D.C., had tuned into an ESPN “Game Day” feature story on Saturday’s one-year anniversary of the death of his mom, Lisa.

“Seeing his sister (Jayla) on TV ... it definitely made him smile,” said Elijah Johnson, Robinson’s roommate, who monitored the reaction of his teammate on such an important day. “I think he needed that. It started his day off right. It started his day off good.”

The 6-foot-10 Robinson once again made his loved ones proud — he tweeted the simple message “FOE” (Family Over Everything) 90 minutes before the game — by scoring 17 points, grabbing nine rebounds and coming up big in crunch time in the Jayhawks’ 69-66 victory over Texas in Erwin Center.

“Today was an emotional day for Thomas,” KU coach Bill Self said. “To go through what he has gone through and know this is the anniversary and wake up watching that ESPN special and all that stuff, to go out and perform like that ... I think that showed a lot about him.”

Self held a short meeting with all the Jayhawks except Robinson on Friday, telling them to skip the ESPN report on Lisa Robinson’s passing.

“Elijah texted me saying Thomas watched it,” Self said. “I said, ‘How’s he doing?’ He said, ‘He’s OK. He wants to break down, but he hasn’t yet.’ I’m sure he’ll lose it here pretty soon. I think our guys picked him up today pretty well.”

Self spoke with Robinson about the ESPN special prior to the game.

“I said it made me proud to watch it,” Self said. “He said, ‘Coach, it made me proud to watch it, too.’”

Robinson — his inside feed to Jeff Withey resulted in a basket and foul shot to erase a 66-65 deficit and give KU a 68-66 lead with :37 left — said he was holding up fine.

He had not only his coaches and teammates around Saturday, but also Angel Morris, mother of KU’s Morris twins. She made a special trip to the game to make sure she was there if Robinson needed her.

Angel, who supported Thomas so much in the year since Lisa’s death, said Thomas was doing so well, she didn’t even bring up the significance of the day with him.

“I wouldn’t say it was too emotional,” Robinson said of Saturday. “No disrespect or anything, but that’s something I have to live with every day. For the media, it’s the anniversary, but for me it’s every day.”

Robinson was sent to the free-throw line in a crucial situation — with 8.8 seconds left and KU still up, 68-66. Texas coach Rick Barnes called a timeout to ice Robinson.

Thomas missed the first free throw, but knocked down the second, meaning KU had a 69-66 lead with one possession to go.

Texas’ J’Covan Brown (24 points, 20 the second half), who was guarded first by Travis Releford then taken by Elijah Johnson on the switch, missed a three with two seconds left, assuring KU its 16th win against three losses (6-0 in the Big 12). Texas fell to 12-7, 2-4.

“I’m still shaking,” Robinson joked of his nerves at the free-throw line.

He had just one rebound the first half. No matter, as the Jayhawks, who had game-high leads of 15 points in both halves, still led by 12 at the break.

“I don’t think that’s happened to me all season,” Robinson said of grabbing just one board in 20 minutes. “Coach pointed that out to me. The second half I had the mind-set, ‘I need every rebound.’”

Robinson and Withey (12 points, 8-for-9 from the line) had clutch plays late to go with the all-around excellence of Tyshawn Taylor, who scored 22 points and had four assists against no turnovers.

“Let’s call it (like it is) ... it was Tyshawn Taylor. He controlled the game,” Self said. “He didn’t turn the ball over. He made shots, and when the game was on the line he got fouled and made a three-point play.”

First, KU’s Johnson hit a shot at 2:55 to slice a 64-60 deficit to one bucket. Then after a Clint Chapman miss, Taylor was fouled by Myck Kabongo on a jumper, hitting the free throw to give KU a 65-64 lead. Brown hit two free throws at 1:53 to put Texas up by one again, leading to the Withey and-one.

“We did a good job taking care of the ball,” Taylor said.

KU had just six turnovers to Texas’ nine.

Self was so happy with the lack of turnovers and poise in coming back from the four-point deficit he called it “the best win we’ve had all year. It’s what we needed. The last one or two possession game we’d played was Georgetown in early November. Our guys stepped up. Jeff showed some guts making those free throws, and we defended the last possession well.”

Still, Brown, who made seven of 26 shots (three of eight from three), had a chance to hit the game-tying three before the final horn.

“He still got a look that scared me,” Taylor said with a smile. “I thought it was going in when he shot it. To win on the road like this against a talented team like Texas is good for us. It shows toughness from us.”

KU will meet Texas A&M; at 8 p.m. Monday in Allen Fieldhouse.


JurisJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

0 Turnovers for TT. That's awesome. I know he'll turn it over, but this is huge for his confidence. He's been playing outta his mind and I love it.

Great win against UT. Rock Chalk!

John Randall 10 years, 3 months ago

Outta his mind isn't even close. He is playing within himself – and a hell of a lot better because of it.

actorman 10 years, 3 months ago

“'Seeing his sister (Jayla) on TV ... it definitely made him smile,' said Elijah Johnson, Robinson’s roommate, ..."

Gary, don't you mean Elijah Robinson? Weren't you listening to Verne Lundquist?

Great win, guys. The team is looking stronger and stronger all the time.

Joe Studebaker 10 years, 3 months ago

I heard that too and was waiting to hear him correct it but he never did. He messed up again but I don't remember what it was.

Great game... boy can that Brown stroke the three ball. Wow.. Going to be a tough game at home but I think we will hold serve.

Tim Orel 10 years, 3 months ago

They also said this is the only game between the two teams unless they meet in the post season Big 12 tourney. Sure would be nice to have announcers not say things that aren't true - research can be a good thing. Or perhaps Texas has already forfeited their game at KU on March 3rd?

John Strayer 10 years, 3 months ago

Verne also said..."Danny Manning was the career leading scorer at Texas"...I kid you not. I guess the Danny and the miracles national championship over OU never happened. And Kellog never corrected him...

BigJayhawkPhan 10 years, 3 months ago

Verne is losing it. He made a bunch of errors. Time to hang it up buddy.

JD Roth 10 years, 3 months ago

Yes Verne is losing it, there were so many errors that it was reminiscent of UCLA v KU in the 1978 NCAA's when Curt Gowdy blew his reputation with Paul Monkeski, Darrel Valentine and Clint Jones among other errors. Get a clue CBS, retire Lundquist.

JHWK 10 years, 3 months ago

Yep, you're right. CBS, as always, has only the relics to do these games. They have no concept of bringing in new talent to help their inanity. Very sad. Every year during the Tourney I long for ESPN to have the games.

actorman 10 years, 3 months ago

Look at it this way, JHWK: at least there's one good thing about the tournament not being on ESPN. Thank God we don't have to suffer through any Dick Vitale games.

It is a shame, though, that the KU championship in '08 had to be Billy Packer's last game. It would have been so nice to have someone like Clark Kellogg instead.

jakejayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

You mean have ESPN do the games with their young talent like Knight and Vitale?

Debbie Mangen 10 years, 3 months ago

Don't you sometimes wonder if the announcers are even at the same game? Ron Franklin and that White, can't remember his first name, were just as bad.

John Boyle 10 years, 3 months ago

It was Fred White and he wasn't bad at all compared to the blowhards they use on national coverage.

Chandler James 10 years, 3 months ago

it just shows how important it is to have Danny Manning as an assistant coach. I mean after all he's Texas' all time leading scorer. Oh well at least we only play Texas once this year.

ku_tailg8 10 years, 3 months ago

You guys nailed all the Lundquist blunders from yesterday. Elijah, only playing Texas once, Manning and Texas. Geez. Way too many gaffs for one game.

John Randall 10 years, 3 months ago

They ran out of gaffés and had to use fish hooks.

tis4tim 10 years, 3 months ago

This a source of real annoyance for me during telecasts. Simple research is all that is needed to avoid such fundamental blunders on air. I know these guys see a lot of teams and players and, at times, they can start to meld together, but this isn't some small, directional college we're talking about. This is Kansas, one of the blue blood programs. To not have a clue about us, our players, our history, or anything smacks of pure ignorance or just not caring, neither or which is an attractive option.

On that note, a guy who REALLY impressed me in the broadcast booth was Miles Simon, the former Arizona basketball player who I think did color during the Baylor game. He knew all of our players' names (bench guys and starters), their personal bios and even background anecdotes to dish out at appropriate times. I came away very impressed with his preparation and it made the game that much better to watch. Well, that and we won.

JD Roth 10 years, 3 months ago

Miles Simon always does an awesome job.

actorman 10 years, 3 months ago

Good call, tis4tim. I thought the same thing about Simon. He was very impressive.

I can forgive the Manning blunder because it was an obvious slip of the tongue, especially since he referred to the Jayhawks' '88 championship in the next sentence. I can even somewhat forgive the "Elijah Robinson" mistake, even though he said it twice, because it was within a short period of time, it was during game action and he didn't make the mistake again after those two times.

What I find unfathomable is his comment about only playing Texas once. He said it before the game and then repeated it during the second half. What I've always had a hard time comprehending in situations like that is why no one corrects people. Why on earth didn't Kellogg, or the producer, or SOMEONE, tell him he was wrong before he said it again? And how could he not know that KU plays everyone in the Big XII twice this year? I find that kind of mistake to be inexcusable for a seasoned pro like Lundquist.

BleedCnB 10 years, 3 months ago

Jayhawk Nation is behind you T-Rob, No doubt your mom is up above proudly proclaiming that you are her son. Whenever you need a shoulder no doubt your teammates will help you out,......and Jayhawk nation will also be there for you. God Bless you Thomas, I know how hard it is to lose mom. I had to deal with that 2 years ago and I still think about her every day.

Jeeveshawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Good for Thomas. He managed to have a game only slightly below his averages, which is not a bad thing at all, considering how high he set his bar, and doing it on such an emotional day for him. With a clutch free-throw that caused UT to shoot a three he may have won this road game for us, and he definately conquered one of his demons.

He is not the only one, as Tyshawn Taylor had an astounding 0 turnovers. I was surprised to hear he only averaged four per game (although that is alot for just 1 player). Though I would have been happier if he got his 4 to's and we also outrebounded the horns like we should have, Tyshawn showed that if he listens to HCBS that he can fix the problem that has haunted him from day 1, and this will lead to making Kansas a much more efficient team. Now we will get plenty more possesions against Missouri because we will get every single rebound, and our turnover problem is slowly being mended by the almost perfect coaching processes of Bill Self.

I would like to see Travis get back into his scoring mode (not that I was disapointed in his performance today), and I miss the days at the beginning of the season when Teahan was a sharpshooter, who when he had the ball and he was wide open you would think: "There's 3 points!," but now when he looks like he is about to shoot you think: "He may get this, if he is having a good shooting day." Other than that I think every jayhawk lived up to his full scoring potential, but the game was kept somewhat close because of our poor reboundind, the inability to hit free-throws, and the Longhorns all playing to their maximum potential. It was a good road win for KU, as we continue to dominate a conference so tough as the Big 12.

KULA 10 years, 3 months ago

OMG, could Missouri actually be #2 when the rankings come out Monday afternoon?

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 3 months ago

Good..they can be the 3rd top 5 team we beat this year.

yates33333 10 years, 3 months ago

Unfortunately, the Mizzou quitters have an excellent team. They will give Kentucky a run for its money (no joke intended) next year. Florida also, but Florida is still an unpaid college team. I hope we can beat Mizzou in Lawrence. They seem to play as well on the road as they do at home. Of course, ideally we can beat them in Columbia.

Ashwin Rao 10 years, 3 months ago

I don't believe Mizzou will do as well with Haith's recruits. Time will only tell though.

dhinkansas 10 years, 3 months ago

I agree with that. I think Mizzou quit on Mike Anderson. I don't think Haith has any kind of proven track record with recruiting.

KansasComet 10 years, 3 months ago

Let's embrace this home and home with the Missouri Tigers. After all, it is the last one. I like good rivalries. Let's send them out of the Big XII the right way!

Losing a parent at an early age is extremely difficult. The only advice I can give anyone in that situation is take time to smile about all the good times that you had with your parent. Think of all of the things that really made you appreciate them and say "Thank You". When you are alone, just take time to reflect. It is okay, the pain never goes away, but it can be managed in time. I say all these things from experience, being 10 years old when my father passed away...decades ago.

KansasComet 10 years, 3 months ago

Title: Emotional rescue: KU, Thomas Robinson hold it together, edge Texas. This article is about much more than basketball. Those of us that lost a parent at a young age can identify...that's all I am saying.

baldwinjhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

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Brianna Zaleski 10 years, 3 months ago

Jesus, what a perv. You do know this is a college sports site? Please leave your homoerotic comments for the websites you visit that end in .xxx only. Thank you

gongs4ku 10 years, 3 months ago


Michael Bratisax 10 years, 3 months ago

Good post. I agree the 4 guard line-up causes match-up difficulties but they are doing it out of necessity otherwise, more teams would go w/that line-up. Their speed does make a difference but I think Mizzou will be hurt by match-up problems more than us. We should be able to go to our bigs in the paint most of the game and hopefully control the boards. Of coarse, I'm sure Baylor thought the same.

Kye Clark 10 years, 3 months ago

You say that Misery's 1 big, 4 guards = match-up problems, and ask which of our bigs should sit. I say neither. TRob has enough quickness to not be too terribly deficient on the perimeter, and I say that you try and maximize your height advantage as opposed to taking that away to play small. Besides, there's not a lot of perimeter depth. Not sure that Connor is that much of an improvement out there defensively, and you have to have him available on the bench to spell the starters when they need a breather. Besides, Fizzou was able to beat Baylor in large part due to a monster game from Ricardo Ratliff. I don't see that happening against our defense. And inexplicably they out-rebounded the Bears. To me this was just a poor performance by Baylor, and didn't strike any fear in me regarding the Tiggers.

AsadZ 10 years, 3 months ago

I agree. I saw some highlights and was amazed at how poorly Baylor played on D. Mizzou was able to do just about anything they wanted the whole game.

actorman 10 years, 3 months ago

Good point about Withey. The good thing is that he's not committing that foul (or any fouls, for that matter) as often this year, but it's still sometimes an issue.

I agree with you about Nebraska being a good fit in the Big 10. But I disagree with you about the NU-OU rivalry. That hasn't been much of a rivalry since the beginning of the Big XII, since they've been in separate divisions and haven't played each other every year like they did before.

I also think that Colorado's move to the Pac-12 was a good fit for them. Look how competitive they are in basketball this year. They would never have been able to compete like that in the Big XII. But aside from that, they just seem to fit well with the Pac-12 schools.

Shawn Otrimble 10 years, 3 months ago

I think hearing about Angel Morris being at the game for Thomas speaks volumes of the family atmosphere at Kansas University. I believe we have the best coach in all of college sports. Just with what he has done in this season already, he deserves to be up for National Coach of the year. We truly are blessed at KU.

JHWK 10 years, 3 months ago

Thanks, Angel! You'll forever be all Jayhawks' surrogate Momma! Love you!!

brooksmd 10 years, 3 months ago

Angel Morris should have a jersey hung in the rafters of the Phog. What a blessing she has been.

Danny Hernandez 10 years, 3 months ago

About the only way a team like misery can beat anyone is to retain their players all 4 years(not talented enough to bolt early) while the other talent laden teams like Kansas & Texas lose players early to the NBA, forcing them to reload quicker than anticipated.

misery will lose 5-6 seniors this year and when they reload, I mean, rebuild, it will be ugly for them next year.

Brad Avery 10 years, 3 months ago

TRob has got to get over his "nerves" at the free throw line. This was a conference road game against a mediocre team which KU almost lost at the free throw line. It's not the tournament where every point is desperately needed.

jhkprd 10 years, 3 months ago

I missed the ESPN special on Robinson. Anyone know where I can see it?

Kent Kossoy 10 years, 3 months ago

Announcers also claimed that the Big 12 was the only conference to have 3 teams in the top 10. Who is the third team besides Baylor and KU?? Misery is in the SEC (Southern Enema Conference. )

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 3 months ago

I'm afraid we have to claim them until the end of this school year.

Bellator 10 years, 3 months ago

I wish the FOE thing would just go away. To me it was just a Morris Twin thing and it meant F the coaches, the fans, the media. The problem with it, especially with the Morris Twins, was when they really felt the chip on their shoulder they played great and without out it they were very average. I'd rather have guys like Hinrich and Collision who just "brought" their game every night because that's who they were and the didn't need to make up real and perceived slights to motivate them.

This is the first time I've heard it this year and I hope it's the last.

I'm sure there are those that disagree but FOE to you :)

Redlandsjhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Thanks Ralster, I couldn't have said it better myself.

dylans 10 years, 3 months ago

I felt like the Morris's FOE was twins over everthing and Robinson's is the Jayhawk family over everything. Just my take.

Tyler Bruce 10 years, 3 months ago

I'm one of those that couldn't disagree with you more.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


If you find FOE annoying, its okay. I sometimes wearied of it a bit myself.

But to question Marcus's and Markieff's commitment and effort seems way off base.

Marcus was a work-horse stud every season he played.

Kieff took awhile to find himself, but that is more the rule than the exception and when he came around he was an incredibly efficient, hard working player.

Both guys transformed themselves under Hudy regimes that would break many persons into good jumpers, something they definitely were not when they came to KU. Each was a player any other coach and team would have loved to have had.

Hinrich and Collison were great players.

But neither came from disadvantaged neighborhoods.

Neither came from single parent families.

Neither had to sleep in tenements, or abandoned buildings growing up.

Both had a full time, reliable Dad, as nearly as I can tell.

And while they were at KU, they never had a teammate lose several generations of his family in a very short stretch.

So: you can be annoyed with the initials they rallied around if you want. But sometimes in life it is not about how graceful and stylish you are. Sometimes it is about surviving tremendous adversity, or about helping someone else survive tremendous adversity, and you find yourself scrambling to find ways to get it done. There was no rule book for last year. Everyone had to make it up as they went. The Twins' mom seemed a godsend in all of it.

I am very, very proud of Marcus and Kieff, regardless of what set of initials they used to help themselves their teammates get through it and make their way to profitable professional ball.

They were significantly, even largely, responsible for producing two straight 30 win seasons and did what they could their freshman seasons, undeveloped though they were, to get a team to a Sweet 16.

They've earned our respect and perhaps you should look inside yourself to find out why you cannot grant them what they have earned.

Rock Chalk!

Beate Williams 10 years, 3 months ago

Exactly what needed to be said; perfect response to a very insensitive individual.

Joe Ross 10 years, 3 months ago

Jaybate, I detest a lot about you. But this post is actually one that says something. And it is well said. If only the rest of your posts lacked the unnecessary fluff and attempts to be cutesy and were filled with substance as this was, youd have a lot less detractors. No, the hatchet will not be buried, but a rare moment of agreement on a topic which is very sensitive to TRob and all of the Jayhawk family.

southwindjay 10 years, 3 months ago

Hey dub T's, no TO's!!! Keep the fire BURNING!

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

Six down...ten to go...heck, why lose any now!! "RCJHGKU!!!!!"{

Scott Lippoldt 10 years, 3 months ago

Hey, Oakville, actually it's 12 to go (play all 10 teams twice). I agree with you, though--it would be awesome to run the table from here out! RCJH!

Nick Cole 10 years, 3 months ago

Hey, skwahjayog, actually we play all 9 teams twice (since we can't really play ourselves in a game).

REHawk 10 years, 3 months ago

We can't be messin' with the FOE handle. Personal player and team psychology at work there. Any fan tampering could lead only to alienation, IMHO.

REHawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Of the ESPN T-Rob anniversary cut, Self told Thomas, "It made me proud to watch it." That one word goes far to define the character and leadership magnificence of Bill Self.

Robert Murphy 10 years, 3 months ago

And quits dribbling every time he gets the ball.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 3 months ago

After last night's game and a second review of the game: 1. Tyshawn - played his best game of the year. The zero turnovers were a big part. But he drove in the lane and did deliver important passes for scores. His three point shooting continues to really be the surprise of the season. Late, he pressed and tried to make things happen driving. He got bailed out on a foul call that probably wasn't a foul, on another that his shot hit the bottom of the backboard and TRob grabbed and slammed, and then one that was a foul. He said in the KC Star that big players make big plays, and that's what he was trying to do ... it just appeared he pressed late in the game and things just went our way. But that is nitpicking. Against Kentucky, his other 0 turnover game, he was out of control. He was perfectly in control this game. Just an outstanding performance. 2. Releford - defense was good. Self switched EJ to Brown for a while, but switched Releford back to him late thankfully. But offensively, we are back to Mr. Passive. If you re-watch the game, you'll see easily over 10 times where Releford has a clear opportunity to drive -- meaning his defender is overly committed one way or the other. It's not wide open, but obvious that he could make a penetrating move that could lead to a layup, dish, midrange jumper, or other opportunity. He takes the opportunity once. He passes on multiple shot opportunities. It is a puzzling and frustrating thing to see. It's like the guy didn't show up offensively and made a conscious decision to be a wallflower on offense. 3. Withey - Like his increased activity on the offensive end. He's getting lower, better post position. I see his butt getting into the defender, which creates space. And who can't learn from his tremendous free throw stroke? 4. TRob - Played a solid, under control game. Every team game plans for him. Passing quickly out of the double is still an issue. And it doesn't appear that we have any set plays out of the double. Is anyone seeing a set play, or us trying to create scoring out of that double? I don't. 5. EJ - Just a thought. It seems easier to shoot the three from directly in front of the rim; at a 45 degree on the wing; or the corner. EJ takes many of his 3s from just off center. I'd be interested to see his % from various spots. Seems that he's better from directly in front, or at 45, than in between. 6. Wesley - Just in over his head. Wish we had a real option as backup off the bench. Achilles' heal? He just can't hang. Just wish we had a big body that could defend a bit. Wesley and KY just don't have the beef. 7. Teahan - A bit better relatively speaking than Wesley. But a one trick pony. Most we can hope is threes go in at 50% the rest of the way, and his defense is adequate.

KULA 10 years, 3 months ago

  1. Releford--it comes from Bill Self spending a players first two years convincing him that he's not good enough (like I posted before). It instills doubt, not confidence. That's what you see with Travis and EJ. Passing on an opening because of that tiny doubt. We've seen flashes of awesomeness from Travis and EJ, but more often, we see doubt. Bill coaches to fear failure more than embrace the opportunity for success. Not good if a player has to take a big shot with the game on the line.

Kye Clark 10 years, 3 months ago

Only when they are in fact not good enough. Travis his first year (when there was an abundance of playing time to be had), was out of control, couldn't drive without dribbling off his leg half the time, his jump shot was sub-par, and he was not a good defender. But sure, he was athletic, and on the small percentage of possessions played on the fast break he was a positive. Otherwise he was not in fact good enough.

Of course there are a plethora of examples of players playing with confidence in their first two years. But why let those examples get in the way of your assault on Coach Self?

I take every one of your posts with a grain of salt, as you have clearly demonstrated time and time again that you don't respect Coach Self's ability. Not once have I ever seen you blame a player for a mistake, instead putting it on Self as if he's controlling these players from the bench like a video game.

John Randall 10 years, 3 months ago

Bill doesn't tell them THEY are not good enough. He tells them the way they are playing isn't – and he tells them why. Most of them get it fairly quickly, some take a little longer.

Travis and EJ are not awesome players, they have become very good ones. Their awesome moments are frequent enough for fans like you to greedily assume you deserve a steady diet of that. That just isn't so, but they each have another year for us to enjoy, and to help mold the upcoming bunch of youngsters.

KULA 10 years, 3 months ago

Re-read #2 from HighEliteMajor: "If you re-watch the game, you'll see easily over 10 times where Releford has a clear opportunity to drive -- meaning his defender is overly committed one way or the other. It's not wide open, but obvious that he could make a penetrating move that could lead to a layup, dish, midrange jumper, or other opportunity. He takes the opportunity once. He passes on multiple shot opportunities."

KULA 10 years, 3 months ago

btw, jhwksrock, your post is a perfect example of the thought process I described: "fear of failure." As in, "Hmm, there's a big guy in there. If I make an offensive move, he might block my shot and my offensive move could lead to points for the other team. I better not make an offensive move." Fear of failure.

As opposed to, "I might make the shot. I might get fouled and go to line and get their big guy in foul trouble. I might make the shot and get fouled and get three points. I might drive and and draw help defense and pass off to an open Jeff or TRob for an assist. I might miss a shot and have the best rebounder in the conference under the basket for a put-back.

Considering that the best shot blockers have maybe two a game, the scenario you describe is the most remote of the ones I've listed. But yes, it would be failure. Better not make that offensive move.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 3 months ago

Also, on the Big 12 -- Anyone doubting MU being for real should really check that at the door. Objectively, they are a handful. Tough to matchup with. Quick. Good shooters. Best passing team I've seen this season. Our defense is our ticket there. We need to storm Columbia and snatch their souls. They are not a deep team either. Our worry is our also advantage -- how do they matchup with Withey and TRob on the floor? How do we play defense with Withey and TRob on the floor? TRob vs. English? That could equal foul trouble.

Should make for a couple of unreal battles.

Ann Oneill 10 years, 3 months ago

Hope Tharpe is up for the challenge of playing a few minutes to spell TT and EJ. I don't think Teahan is going to get much PT because Mizzou is too quick and he is too slow.

KULA 10 years, 3 months ago

I worry about an uptempo game wearing us down. Our starting five is the best in the country, as we proved in the first halves of the Kentucky, Duke and Texas games. But with minimal help off the bench, they're liable to get a bit worn down as the game wears on, as we proved in the second halves of the Kentucky, Duke and Texas games. Hopefully Bill can steal some precious minutes here and there, but come tournament time, it'll be tough to make a deep run with a five man team, especially with two games in three days against good teams. Let's see if Mizzou tries to wear us down. Can't wait for the game--Rock Chalk!

David Robinett 10 years, 3 months ago

"storm Columbia and snatch their souls"

I like that!

actorman 10 years, 3 months ago

Doesn't work for me. How can you snatch something that's not there in the first place?

REHawk 10 years, 3 months ago

I have watched Missouri as often as possible; and am impressed with their play. To date, Haith seems to be doing a masterful job of extracting unified team play from Anderson's talented recruits. A very difficult thing to do, as Bill Self and assistants learned their first year at Kansas. In analyzing the Tigers lineup, pundits still harp on their lack of height down low, esp. after the loss of Bowers. But they proved in yesterdays matchup with Baylor that their speed and spacing is capable of giving any worthy opponents absolute fits. They are very very tough to defend, still active buzzsaws on both ends of the court. Depth-wise, they are as limited as the Jayhawks; but reserves Dixon and Moore give them more experienced and valuable minutes than does our bench. A terrific group of passers, very hard to double team at any position.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

I don't doubt MU is good.

But KU is better, and barring a 25% trey shooting performance we will beat them by 10-15.

I suspect Self will make them pay for being one big and four guards.

There are two ways to do it.

First Method: Rotate Thomas and Jeff and Justin and wear their big down with physical play, while going small elsewhere with Conner and KY at the 4.

Second Method: Go big with Thomas and Jeff and play some zone on defense. Our usual starting line up playing zone would destroy Fizzou on the defensive end, and just overpower them on offense.

Really, we're going to be these guys into the next century.

The minute I saw they barely beat Baylor, I quit gripping.

KansasComet 10 years, 3 months ago

I agree we are better than Missouri, and have played a much tougher schedule. Only way to settle it is on the court. Go Jayhawks!!

741hawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Just finished watching (for the third time) "The Street Stops Here" on ESPN Classic -- Documentary about Coach Bob Hurley, St Anthony's High School, and Tyshawn as a senior.

I've never hated on Ty. Been a fan since seeing him in a summer league game before his freshman season. He was SO fast!

I've always understood how much more difficult it would be for Tyshawn to go to college, play for the Jayhawks and be in the limelight (coming from an inner city Jersey school) than it would be for a high school graduate from Johnson County or Wichita, for example.

I'm no longer surprised by how young men mature as players and as people under Coach Self's program.

So happy for Ty's success, but even more for the TEAM's success . . . the importance of which Ty learned from Coach Hurley.

Rock Chalk.

Kye Clark 10 years, 3 months ago

Off topic, but last night I was covering the Olathe NW vs. Blue Valley NW high school game. I bring it up only because Willie Cauley, who signed with Kensucky, plays for Olathe and on some recruiting websites is ranked higher than Perry Ellis. I know these recruiting websites do this for a living and know more than me, and that they base most of their analysis on player performance during the AAU circuit, but I just don't see it. He played extremely soft, despite being 6 inches taller than anyone else on the court. He scored a paltry 9 points, and didn't get many rebounds either (I'd estimate 5 maybe). When he got the ball in the post, while being guarded by much smaller players, he often faded away as opposed to going up strong. For the 3-game tournament, he scored less than 30 points combined. In contrast, Ellis scored 87 points in a different tournament, including 31 points in the championship game (which Heights won).

Anyway, just wanted to share because I know some fans were questioning why we were never in on Cauley. While I know he's a legit 6'10" and athletically gifted, things you can't coach, I felt comfortable in knowing Self landed the best player in the state.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 3 months ago

I have seen Cauley play, too. Completely agree that Ellis was the better of the two. It really is just the fact that we lost out on Tarc .. meaning, if we went hard at Cauley, and didn't go "all in" on Tarc .. could we have had Cauley and Ellis both.

If Olathe East hadn't lost one of their big guys prior to state, though, I think they would have beaten Heights in the final.

Kye Clark 10 years, 3 months ago

I've heard rumors that Cauley's "camp" wanted nothing to do with KU, and if true maybe it wasn't worth the effort, and time & resources were better spent elsewhere.

As for your prediction about state last year...I didn't know that about Olathe East losing a big. Of course that game with Heights was in the semis, not the final. Heights went undefeated and Olathe had a few losses if I'm not mistaken, so I don't know....I still say Heights would have taken it. This year, after watching Blue Valley Northwest and Olathe Northwest last night (who were ranked #3 & #2 coming into the game, respectively), it's going to be a 4-peat for Heights.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 3 months ago

Ah, you're right about the game being the semis .. BVNW lost in the final. That Custer kid seems like the real deal this season.

I didn't know about Cauley's camp not wanting much to do with KU .. Will Shields, as you probably know, is a big part of Cauley's camp. Cauley lives with Shields I understand, in the Olathe East area. Both Cauley and Shields go to ONW out of area (as loosely permitted in Olathe).

Wondering of Tony Parker is still on the radar? Or if we're on his?

Kye Clark 10 years, 3 months ago

Yeah Custer was awesome last night, and throughout the whole tournament (he was named tourney MVP). Only a sophomore too.

I actually didn't know that about Cauley living with the Shields. And again, it's just a rumor I'd heard. I tend to believe it at least to some extent, or at least that the lack of interest was more coming from his side, just based on how we weren't in on him at all, when even if we were "all in" on Tarzcewski, with Cauley being so close it really wouldn't have been that hard to stay on his radar.

With Parker, who knows? I think he's going to be one that drags his recruitment out as long as possible. I'm actually hoping that we still have a shot at Shabazz, even though the 2 & 3 aren't positions of need next year.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

“We did a good job taking care of the ball,” Thank you TT.

FOE: TRob your hard work and dedication is paying dividends on the court. thank you.

JeffW. you are moving from an average footer to pretty darn good, it's fun to watch you play. thank you.

Angel: an answer to prayers, thanks for your big heart.

Team: enjoy every possession, get some stops, pass the rock, take good shots, fight for loose balls, celebrate the opportunity. RCJHKU.

Benjamin Piehler 10 years, 3 months ago

AFH is AFH.... however, asides from Maui, we seem to play a bit flat on the road. The only thing concerning about that to me is that none of our away games thus far have been in very intimidating venues. Its been said many times that this team isnt as deep as usual for KU; they will be out for blood in Manhattan, and surely Columbia, knowing they will get a good shot at us this year. I wouldnt write off the games in Waco or Ames either.

Bill Self said at the beginning of the year this team has to get used to "winning ugly"... and maybe thats all there is to it.

Benjamin Piehler 10 years, 3 months ago

Apparently @Ames, @Columbia, @Waco and @Manhattan are all between now and February 13th... thats a tough road stretch.

Ron Franklin 10 years, 3 months ago

I heard last night that the folks associated with KU raised 300,000 for Jayla. I wonder if Thomas will pay it forward when he makes his millions this summer. For the sake of ALL of the children in need, I sure hope so.

MrPilot 10 years, 3 months ago

So is Jesse not doing the stats recap stories anymore? I always looked forward to those after every game. :-/

Eric J. Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

He said in another thread that it was taking a lot of time and wasn't getting the response it used to. I always loved reading them, too, my favorite post-game articles.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 3 months ago

Ralster said -- "Not only is TT's fire burning, that kid is in afterburner-mode. Think of it as Sherron-like, but with bigger upside and verticality."

Can you believe we're suggesting TT has more upside than Sherron?

Unbelievable. True, but unbelievable.

Is the TT/TRob tandem better than Collins/Aldrich? Could that be possible?


KULA 10 years, 3 months ago

Believe it. Remember the buzz from the scouts after the 09 summer games that TT would go higher in the draft than Sherron? Those scouts know a little about the game.

kubiggestfan 10 years, 3 months ago

Way to go T-Rob and company.....GO JAYHAWKS

drymartinie 10 years, 3 months ago

I know it is a quibble, but can we please give up constantly referencing T-Rob as 6-10. This site mentions it EVERY opportunity they can...are they trying to inflate his size for the NBA scouts or something? When he was jawing with 6-7 Alexis Wangmene they were EXACTLY the same height.

David Howell 10 years, 3 months ago

Oh the road games to come ..........

We have no real bench. Only two guys came off the bench other then Young's TWO minutes of court time. Wesley didn't do bad, but Teahan and his 1950's Hoosiers body and quickness leave a lot to be desired. We are only one bad officiating crew on the road from being exposed to having no bench. And Coach has never shown any propensity to allowing the team to play ZONE as practice for a game when we are in serious foul trouble and have to play it to conserve fouls and effort.

Withey's not equipped to play 30 minutes with any all out effort. He works so hard to get a rebound only to miss a shot point blank several times. I know that he's improved some and he did make 8 of 9 FT's. But to only shoot 2 of 7 with only six rebounds in 30 minutes is what should be expected of a bench player. Maybe I should be satisfied with him, but to make a very deep run he has to improve in the likes of what we have seen out of Tyshawn in the past 3 weeks.

Steve Kubler 10 years, 3 months ago

Agreed on Teahan being slower than many. Beginning to disagree on his footspeed being a problem. I focused on him the last couple of games and yes his man gets a few open looks. However when I focus on any player I see their man get a couple of open looks.

What I am also noticing with CT is his positioning, awareness and anticipation. Along with his increase in minutes has came an increase in knowing how to play his position. His help defense is also improved however he still over commits on help at times leaving his guy wide open.

Basically Conner just looks to be comfortable much more of the time at this point. I am hoping this comfort level on D helps him get into the flow on O so he can get his shot percentage up where it should be.

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