Monday, October 17, 2011

Board games: Big Bird, rappers come to KU defense’s aid

Image boards featuring NFL icons are held up from the Kansas bench during Saturday's home game against Oklahoma as what was later explained to be an attempt to simplify the play calling.

Image boards featuring NFL icons are held up from the Kansas bench during Saturday's home game against Oklahoma as what was later explained to be an attempt to simplify the play calling.



Image boards featuring NFL icons are held up from the Kansas bench during Saturday's home game against Oklahoma as what was later explained to be an attempt to simplify the play calling.

With Kansas University’s football defense ranking dead last among FBS programs heading into Saturday, KU coach Turner Gill and his defensive coaches opened their minds to any idea that may put the Jayhawks on the right path.

That even included using Big Bird, a couple of rappers and an actor or two.

Saturday night, during a 47-17 loss to No. 3 Oklahoma, KU’s defensive calls were sent to the field in a new manner. Instead of using long, drawn-out hand signals, the coaching staff utilized a couple of large image boards that featured a wide variety of visual signals.

“That was something new that we incorporated,” Gill said. “Again, (we’re) trying to get our guys information of calls that were made with signals or by showing a picture so they know what it is and so on and so forth. We’re just trying to get it in as fast as we can to get our guys to play faster and to play more confident.”

The new approach may not have changed much in terms of the final outcome. The Sooners, like two teams before them this season, cracked the 600-yard mark and nearly scored 50 points in the 30-point victory.

However, in the grand scheme of things, the change resulted in the KU defense playing a more ferocious style, something the players said they could build on heading into the final six weeks of the season.

“Once we see the sign, we just read and react,” junior safety Bradley McDougald.

Asked to share some of the specific images on the boards, McDougald spoke in vague terms.

“You’ve got everything from rappers, you’ve got cartoons, you’ve got actors,” McDougald said of the boards that also included images of NFL team logos. “It made sense (to use the boards) because Oklahoma has been known to read signs, especially defensively. And once an offense knows your signs, they’re going to dial up plays that they know are going to work.”

The big boards were not the only new element the Kansas defense tried Saturday. The coaches also changed the way they sent plays to the field during drives when OU did not push its up-tempo offense. That, too, added to the defense’s improvement. One week after giving up eight straight touchdowns to open the game in a loss at Oklahoma State, KU limited the Sooners to four field goals and five touchdowns in 10 trips to the red zone.

“We talked as a staff about trying to make things simple,” Gill said. “Coach (Buddy) Wyatt and coach (Robert) Wimberly (had both been) doing the signals, so we switched it up. Coach Wimberly was signaling for our secondary, and coach Wyatt was signaling for our defensive front. That helped our guys get the signals a lot faster. I think you just saw our players played a lot more confident and were moving around and running like you want to see a defense run.”

Hatch questionable for K-State

Senior offensive lineman Jeremiah Hatch, who left Saturday’s game on a cart and was taken to the hospital for evaluation before returning to the sideline late in the game, has been listed as questionable for Saturday’s 11 a.m. contest against Kansas State at Memorial Stadium.

Gill said Hatch suffered a neck injury against the Sooners but appeared to be in good shape when the Jayhawks reported to practice Sunday.

“It’s a day-by-day deal,” Gill said. “He probably won’t do anything on Tuesday, and we’ll see what happens on Wednesday. But he’s fine. He’s sore and all those things, but he had movement back, and that’s why he has a chance to play this week.”

Wildcats crack Top 15

With a 41-34 road victory against Texas Tech on Saturday, Kansas State improved to 6-0 overall and 3-0 in Big 12 play. The hot start has KSU ranked 12th in the latest Associated Press poll and 11th in the season’s initial BCS rankings, which were released Sunday night.

When the odds were released Sunday, K-State opened as a 15-point favorite over Kansas. By Sunday night, the line had dropped to KSU minus-12 in most places.

The Jayhawks have lost two straight to the Wildcats after winning three straight games from 2006-08.

Saturday’s kickoff is scheduled for 11 a.m. The game will be shown on FSN.


ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 3 months ago

Those signs worked so well we our defensive ranking improved, errr, nope, still ranked last!

Ben Kliewer 11 years, 3 months ago

Flawed logic. Even if we would have had the best defensive game of the season on Saturday, we'd still be ranked last because statistics are collective. Just FYI. I'm sure you'll refute it.

But just so you know, after seeing the team for half a season, I'm starting to lean more your direction.

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 3 months ago

Love it! Stats are collective which is why our offensive numbers are starting to sink like a stone. Soon our o numbers will be in the bottom half of the nation.

Here's another collective state. The two teams we beat this year are a collective 7 wins and 6 losses.

Just giving you some info so when you totally join the dark side you are prepared. I think Saturday will be a huge day for Turner. Keep it close and he'll still have some supporters. Get blown out, things may get really ugly.

Kent Wells 11 years, 3 months ago

OK, wait. Just one problem with your logic.. They went into the game giving up 553 and against OU they gave up 610. So, I'm not too up on the new fancy math, but I think their "best defensive game of the season" kinda made the bar move up (or down as it were...)

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 3 months ago

Your defensive stands are more due to ou's mistakes compared to our stopping them. I watched the game last night and essentially every trip there was a bad or dropped pass in the end zone that had nothing to do with our d. But more to due with miscommunication or player errors on theirs.

Ben Kliewer 11 years, 3 months ago

kuwells, I'd like to point out that I said "even if we would have had our best defensive game of the season" I was making a point about collective stats in general, not about our actual defensive performance against OU. Apparently, you don't know how to read and thought I wrote "KU has the best defense in the world, and your penis is totally not small like all those girls said"

gardenjay 11 years, 3 months ago

Please consider not playing Hatch. Neck injuries are serious and we care about the boys enough to not just want to win and throw our cares to the wind. Recruiting is all about taking care of your players.

Besides, I think we'll win this one without Hatch, right now KU 49 KSU 21

Steven Mathew 11 years, 3 months ago

Let's explain the definition of 'sarcasm' shall we...

5DecadeHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Credit Matt Tait with a Fumble.

That quote from Turner Gill about Hatch is not what he said.

Good thing there were other reporters from other newspapers at the press conference that could jump on that ball and recover it.

Bad Coaching of the LJW Reporters is to blame. Tait needs to stop listing to Coach Keegan. He is teaching bad habits, like not getting quotes correct.

Matt Tait 11 years, 3 months ago

The quote used above was from a phone call with coach Gill on SUNDAY NIGHT not the one that came after the game on Saturday.

Seems like you might be the one getting the bad coaching.

Thanks for reading and have a great day!

Micky Baker 11 years, 3 months ago

You're the writer here, and if you quoted what Gill said on Sunday, then maybe you could add two more words, "on Sunday", to it. That is your mistake.

5DecadeHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Except you now have edited the quote to fix you mistakes, when other media sources quoted him correctly the first time. I don't care if you got it over the phone, face to face, or from a press release. You got the quote wrong. If you had not fumbled, you wouldn't have edited it and corrected it.

Admit your mistake like a man. You Fumbled it. You know it.

Either that or continue on the path of being the next Tom Keegan clone that will butcher stories. Your choice.

If the people you write about cannot trust you to quote them accurately, why should anyone ever grant you an interview?

Matt Tait 11 years, 3 months ago

What's your beef, man? That the word "see" was accidentally left out or that Gill was, as you say, "misquoted"

Two different things, really. One is an honest mistake, which has now been fixed. The other is a malicious and lazy way of doing business, neither of which I am guilty.

I suppose I should thank you for pointing out that the word "see" was missing from the quote, but the way you went about doing it makes it hard for me to see it that way.

Hope your day wasn't ruined by this. Have a fabulous afternoon!!!

Matt Tait 11 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the tip. No one's upset here. I was just looking for clarification on if the commenter was angry because of the missing word or the quote itself.

Missing word or not, the quote still said the same thing and all of those words still came from Gill's mouth.

Just looking for clarity, that's all. Thanks for your input. Have a great night!

David Hodges 11 years, 3 months ago

I fail to see where Matt was at fault on this one? If his quote wasn't taken at the same time as the quote given on Sunday then... Newsflash, Its not the same quote. Matt continues to do excellent work and the uncalled for reactions to a small editing error is the real problem. A short and to the point note on the editing error would have been far more appropriate and mature. Of course this is the internet where only a choice few actually stand behind what they say instead of hiding behind anonymity. Way to keep it classy (Matt that statement is genuine for you and steeped in sarcasm for the others).

5DecadeHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

I'll put that down as an admission that you got the quote wrong.

John Randall 11 years, 3 months ago

Thanks 5DH, for admitting you only want to say you were right, whether or not you were right.

Jayhawk1116 11 years, 3 months ago

Get over yourself. Ridiculing a writer for an honest mistake on a message board is shallow and bush league. Grow up.

Micky Baker 11 years, 3 months ago

I'll tell what my beef is. Its okay to clarify what you meant, but then to continue telling one of the readers they might be the one getting bad coaching is not professional by any means. Especially, when you could have made it clear that it was said Sunday night instead of Saturday when you wrote the article. I wouldn't have responded to you at all had you not done that Matt. It wasn't anything to get defensive about. I think that might be why there seems to be fewer responses on some of these articles as of late. I seem to remember the Lawrence Journal World Sports department received a reward last year for being number one in a publication with at least a million hits on the website. I have to say, you guys shouldn't get number one this year. Its a lot harder to stay the best than it is to get there.

LAJayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago


5Decade has had an unhealthy, borderline obsessive need to tear into anything LJWorld for several years now. He's had some legitimate criticisms over time, but mostly it seems clear he needs an avenue in which to place a great deal of pent up anger probably stemming from some personal rejection or a lack of satisfaction in some aspect of his life (perhaps there was some event in the past where he felt he or a family member was slighted by the paper). The ability to anonymously criticize you folks -- often with a lack any legitimacy -- seems to placate this inner anger to some degree... an opiate of sorts.

Obviously I'm just guessing, but that's the vibe that seems to come from his posts when he goes into anti-LJWorld mode. My advice is to not amplify this behavior by responding to it (unless he has a legitimate criticism), as that will only make his need for the "drug" worse.

Obviously you did nothing wrong here. You were given a quote, and it is not necessary to point out in what medium or date the said quote came from. That's just ridiculous to suggest that's a mistake. While the word "see" may have been left out originally, I'm guessing that wasn't even your fault, but a mistake of the online editor. But even if it was your mistake, it's simply an innocent typo, and clearly not of whatever malicious intent that seems to be suggested in the above post.

This was a rather unfounded criticism, and one that should be ignored.

Matt Tait 11 years, 3 months ago

No worries, folks... I've become quite good at ignoring stuff like this. :-) However, this latest criticism indicated that someone was misquoted and, in this business, that's the worst of the worst.

With that in mind, I figured it was worth addressing but I certainly didn't and won't lose any sleep over it.

It's all fixed up prim and proper now. Back to football!!!

5DecadeHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

It was legit, and Matt has admitted that he got the quote wrong.

Yes, I do have issues with the LJW, but that doesn't change the fact that the quote was wrong.

actorman 11 years, 3 months ago

Okay, 5Decade, whatever you say. You're clearly right and the rest of us are just too stupid to realize it. Does that help you feel better?

Jayhawk1116 11 years, 3 months ago

Fine, will you admit you're being an ass now? Fair is fair.

Dyrk Dugan 11 years, 3 months ago

i don't like to look at it either, but please correct the "last time" stats....KSU beat us 59-7 last year....and i'm pretty sure that was the "last time" we met.

Matt Tait 11 years, 3 months ago

Good catch. Thanks. I'll make sure someone fixes that... Have a great day!!!

Bion Ostrander 11 years, 3 months ago

Congrats are in order for TG, it only took him 1.5 seasons to figure out how to get defensive plays called when a team uses a hurry up offense. Unfortunately, I think Big Bird is our defensive coordinator.

Now, please diversify and expand the offensive play calling beyond 1/2 page...

Until TG puts names back on the jerseys, his weekly talk show should remove his name, it would be called, The Show. Because no person affiliated with KU football should be calling undue attention to themselves, that is just not being a team player....

sevenyearhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

"Until TG puts names back on the jerseys, his weekly talk show should remove his name, it would be called, The Show. Because no person affiliated with KU football should be calling undue attention to themselves, that is just not being a team player...."



Bob Thompson 11 years, 3 months ago

I watched the game, and was impressed with how well we ran the ball the first half. But the second half, OU adjusted to the run, and we kept running the same play and surprise.... it didn't work. So what do we do? Adjust and run something different... no... we kept running the same play and didn't pick up a first down the entire third quarter.... What's wrong with this picture?

flyingfinn 11 years, 3 months ago

You have hit the nail on the head for the WHOLE season. Other teams adjust and keep adjusting, evidently our coaching staff does not have that capability.

okiedave 11 years, 3 months ago

Bobku -- I agree. Other teams seem to be able to adjust very nicely with what we are doing in the first half and shut us down in the second. Our inability to adjust to what they are doing seems to be a coaching issue.

actorman 11 years, 3 months ago

Please enlighten us, jhwkfan, on how exactly Jordan Webb is an idiot for running the plays that are called for him by his coach. I'm sure we would all like you to share your brilliance on the subject.

It's one thing to criticize JW for not being a great QB, but it's WAY off base to question his intelligence unless you have a legitimate reason for doing so.

Ethan Berger 11 years, 3 months ago

Your the same fan, if we passed it and webb threw picks, you say would should have ran it. Much easier to be a couch coach aye?

youowethehawks 11 years, 3 months ago

Debbie Downer and Negative Nancy are two tired hags.

I saw a defense that finally found its nuts. Unfortunately, our offense decided to disappear in the second half again and hung the D out to dry by putting them back on the field with little or no rest. You just can't expect a defense, no matter how motivated, to succeed against a #3 team when you can only get 3 downs out of your offense.

This game was within 2 possessions until the 4th quarter. If not for a dropped DJ Beshears ball that could have been a touchdown, and a couple of errant 3rd down Webb passes, this game could have been a hell of a lot closer than it already was for the majority of the game. Nobody, including myself, expected KU to even keep it close, and hats off to them for doing so.

We're seeing improvement... let's hope that we continue to see it. HCTG is moving this team in the right direction, whether you're excited about that or not is your choice.

kranny 11 years, 3 months ago

I agree. I'm not on the fire Gill bandwagon just yet. There are sparks of improvement. Saturday was on the offense. Second half there were too many 3 and outs which puts a lot pressure on the defense. I predicted 3 maybe four wins this season(it's looking like probably just 2). KU is young and I think we need a game changer QB. Webb is not the answer. I admire his moxie(hate that word)but in the Big 12 you need a guy who can make plays when the play breaks down. Webb throws too many picks when the play isn't perfect. Also need a guy who can run.

boknowssports 11 years, 3 months ago

if giving up 610 yards and 47 points is "finding your nuts" I have to think those nuts are smashed! moving in the right direction...3 wins last year....2 this year......

dylans 11 years, 3 months ago

The D was on the field far too long inflating OU's numbers. Run the ball on offense and at least kill some clock so the other teams offense has less opportunities.

youowethehawks 11 years, 3 months ago

When's the last time a KU defense has kept the #3 team in the country out of the endzone on 4 out of 5 attempts at any point of any game? Nuts the size of grapefruit.

Judging progress strictly based on number of wins is pointless. The year isn't over yet, but what you saw last Saturday... for three quarters, before the boys were tuckered out thanks, in large part, to an offense that couldn't keep the other team off the field, we saw defense that was good enough to win that game. Nuts the size of grapefruit... really wooly grapefruit.

BigBlue4KU 11 years, 3 months ago

Just saw the Jim Harbaugh handshake on ESPN. Thank God we didn't hire Harbaugh. He said a naughty word and he shook the Lion's coach's hand really roughly. Jeez, I really couldn't believe it. We are so lucky that Perkins found us a group of REALLY nice coaches. By the way, have ANY Jayhawk teams won a Big 12 game this year? Basketball has started, that's good. But we need to keep our eyes on coach Self. I think I saw his lips mouth a naughty word last year. And he REALLY yelled at one of the players. Maybe someone needs to tell him that this is Kansas. We didn't allow that from our football coach and we certainly can't allow it in a gentlemenly sport like basketball. We are so lucky the Morris twins are gone, they played REALLY roughly.

danmoore 11 years, 3 months ago

We never had a chance of landing Harbaugh. If Gill is fired our next head coach will be an OC/DC from a winning program or a head coach from the MAC or similar conference.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 3 months ago

If I offend anyone, I ask your patience but I am somewhat mystified by the "moral victory" and "signs of improvement" comments I am reading about.

The reality of this business of college football [and it is a business!!] is wins and losses.

1] We lost at home by 30 to a team who was having a bit of an off day. 2] Another 600 yard wasting of our "improving defense." 3] No offense what so ever in the entire second half.after a decent effort in the first half. 4] I want Coach Gill and the Hawks to succeed as much as anyone and certainly don't take pleasure, as some posters on this site seem to take, watching the Hawks get fried.

We have to recognize the reality that this team may not win again this year, that the future of this coaching staff is cloudy at best and that it is going to take a long time if ever to bring football back as a viable sport at the University of Kansas.

PS Kansas reference posted this way for you posters who can't sleep at night if some types Kansas University!!

Gary Wirsig 11 years, 3 months ago

As to #2, yes we gave up a lot of yards, but the pace generally slowed down as OU approached the red zone. I believe they were held to three straight field goals at one point. Against #3 OU, and compared to our performance at OSU, I would call that improvement.

I think against KSU's less explosive offense, the defensive gains (if they exist/persist) will show up on the scoreboard. If not, then your doubts are reasonable.

Ethan Berger 11 years, 3 months ago

I think stats are the most misleading bit of info at there. They are indeed facts, but we tend to twist the truth with it. Football is about a game of flow and momentum, and for 3 quarters OU never gained any of that. They were getting the numbers, but they weren't scoring. Now OU did have an off day, I would be foolish not to admit that. But I think after last week, most of us including me thought if OU had they worst game of the season they still beat us by 45. They really only beat us by 23 because of the trash time TD.

LAJayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

I definitely understand where you are coming from here, Oak, and for the most part, I do agree. I would point out, however, that your number 3 played a rather large part in your number 2. Our offense did essentially nothing the entire second half, which gave OU a ton of time with the ball. When your defense is on the field nonstop against the team ranked number 1 in the country by the coaches, you're going to give up some yards. And as was said above, we saw the D going hard, hitting, and not giving up. And the goal line stands were impressive, even if Landry Jones looked like he had the accuracy or Ray Charles throwing the football most of the game.

The defense was improved from where it has been in basically every other game this year. That being said, we are still light years away from being a good football team, and your points are valid. OU played a pretty awful game, and we still got hammered. I think whatever miniscule optimism that is out there is based on the fact that some can see they are headed in a positive direction instead of falling backward. Still forever to go, but forward is better than what we've been seeing for about the last season and a half. Don't know if Gill will get the pace of improvement picked up, but, like you, I hope he does. That not happening means the KU football program has been set back even more than it already is.....

actorman 11 years, 3 months ago

Oakville, I share what I would guess is your (and most people's) biggest concern: the complete lack of adjustments in the second half. That seems to happen game after game, to the point where I've come to dread the second half even if KU has played well in the first. As much as I'm encouraged by some signs of improvement and some decent recruiting, this seemingly total lack of ability to adjust to the game at hand is what in the end will probably be the downfall of this coaching staff. Unless we see something "change" soon, I just have to wonder if this staff is truly capable of coaching at this level.

It's a shame that Hatch was hurt, because I wonder if things might have been at least a little different in the second half with a healthy Hatch in there.

Phoghorn 11 years, 3 months ago

Concerned about no names on jerseys?

Buy a program.

Problem solved.

Micky Baker 11 years, 3 months ago

well, you know, there isn't a program for the game sold for all the fans that watch on TV. You do realize that right? The entire Jayhawk nation isn't in Lawrence. Get a grip man. Start using some intellect.

kranny 11 years, 3 months ago

You can print a roster from this website(no sarcasm intended).

Phoghorn 11 years, 3 months ago

I realize that the entire Jayhawk nation is not in Lawrence - I am in Texas as well. Here in Texas, when we have a problem, we find a solution. Let me solve your problem:

There, that was easy.

ampthatman 11 years, 3 months ago

I think you forgot to take into account the fact that some people just love to find something to whine about...

Phoghorn 11 years, 3 months ago

I think ampthatman is right. If the fall foliage on the hill is not at its peak for the Sunflower Showdown, I just might have to come on to the message boards and make random complaints about it for the next five years...

Joseph Kuebel 11 years, 3 months ago

Next time I'm at the bar (as we are rarely televised-with good reason) I'll be sure to bring a printed KU roster with me and reference #'s accordingly with the players name. (Sarcasm intended)

Let's take some accountability. Bring back names, even most high school teams have this.

Also I agree that many of the complaints on here are pretty ridiculous, but this one I tend to agree with.

LAJayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Nope, it's not sold. It shows up on my laptop completely free.

escaped_labrat 11 years, 3 months ago

So, what's wrong with just putting the names back on the uniforms? I would rather watch the game and see the names then have to memorize or lookup what number belongs to what name. If I wanted to do a puzzle, I'd just open up a newspaper and look for the puzzles...I thought this was football. Not complaining, just saying...

Cmill1221 11 years, 3 months ago

My 84 yr old grandma doesn't want to scan through her media guide to get a name. She doesn't even like it.

Put names on jerseys

Problem solved

Does Gills office door read "COACH"?

Jayhawk1116 11 years, 3 months ago

I have an idea. Why don't they let the players earn the names on their jerseys? Make 5 catches for first downs, 5 tackles for a loss, etc.

FreddyinLA 11 years, 3 months ago

Looks like some defensive players are taking angles to the ball to avoid contact.

DBs are playing 15 yards off the line of scrimmage and then backpedaling. This is way too far back. Just means there is absolutely no way they can turn and keep up with a receiver with a full head of steam. The OU receivers didn’t even bother trying to make a move it was so easy to get open against this defensive scheme.

FreddyinLA 11 years, 3 months ago

Just an additional comment. You get zero run support on the edges when your DBs start this far off the line of scrimmage.

bjejayhawk69 11 years, 3 months ago

The defensive improvement sounds more like the players chanllenged themselves after a players only team meeting. Good to see but still giving up 47 points and over 600 yards means we are no where close to where we should be.

Coaching adjustments is this staff's biggest problem. They simply don't do it and have not done it under Gill. It happened with T Tech. Great start - T tech adjusted and we didn't. Same thing with OU. How bad were we out scored in the 3rd quarter last year and this year. No half time adjustments. Some games the preparation itself is bad. This year OSU and the most disappointing game last year - KSU. 10 days to prepare - 59-7 loss to a barely bowl eligible/rival at home.

Gill has till the end of this year and if he can't " adjust" he should be replaced simply because it won't get any better at that important aspect of coaching. You can't win consistently if your coaching staff can't do it. Even good talent won't over come it.

ja3hawk 11 years, 3 months ago

We won't beat K-State next week. Our players lack talent to compete with others in the B12. Coaching won't fix this but it will magnified. Going into half-time I felt somewhat good but I don't know how to explain the offensive failure in the 2nd half... That is the only reason the score and yards ended up being what it was.

kranny 11 years, 3 months ago

I agree. Talent-wise we're getting there but still too young. We're still undersized and outmatched. Maybe need to start looking at the jucos to get some big D linemen. I don't think we have more than 2 sacks the whole season(can't find a stat anywhere).

741hawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Just how K-State got their defensive line. Four JuCo transfers!

KGphoto 11 years, 3 months ago

I wonder if being an AAU school makes it harder to land all those good JUCO transfers that Silo Tech gets. Jumping from a 2-year JUCO to a 4-year JUCO has to be much easier, than jumping to KU.

Benjamin Piehler 11 years, 3 months ago

I was similarly stumped by our lack of offense the 2nd half... however, OU has a very good defense that probably got yelled at all halftime.

741hawk 11 years, 3 months ago

For those of you with Hope . . . consider it false hope. Oklahoma gained 630 yards. KU gained one first down and 6 total yards in the second half. KU scored (or got into scoring position) on two "broken" plays.

bradynsdad 11 years, 3 months ago

Man there are turning out to be more gill and self haters on this site than ever before. I watched the whole game and I have to be honest, even though we lost OU didn't really open it up until the fourth quarter. Also I believe if our offense had scored in the third quarter it might have rattled OU a little bit more. Sure you can obviously make the case that jones was having an off night and say that's why it was so close. Wouldn't everyone as ku fans rather just live off that little hope that we might be getting better, as opposed to just hating our football team in it's entirety? Would we still want turner fired if he found a way to win two or three more games?

youowethehawks 11 years, 3 months ago

I agree... it's really sad to watch some of our fellow Jayhawks starting to acting like missourians.

kupride4u 11 years, 3 months ago

Ignore the haters Matt!

I have enjoyed your readings. You have found a way to keep me interested in this team in what is becoming an embarrassing season. Keep up the good work!

Matt Tait 11 years, 3 months ago

Thanks a bunch. Just pointing out this: Although it's been rough, KU is now past the point of having to play the No. 3 and No. 6 teams in the country. Not saying they'll win the rest of their games, but things could start looking up a lot during the next six weeks. We'll see...

kupride4u 11 years, 3 months ago

Ignore the haters Matt!

I have enjoyed your readings. You have found a way to keep me interested in this team in what is becoming an embarrassing season. Keep up the good work!

squawkhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Maybe Gill has finally figured out what is wrong with this team...could it be that they understand pictures better than words. It seems to work with my 4 year old.

Ludwig Supraphonic 11 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps his Mother or recessive genes will enable your child to attend KU.

babyjay1 11 years, 3 months ago

Nasty thing to say about a bunch of hard-working college kids... Nice job... Seems like if it's a faster, more efficient way of getting calls in, then why not?

texashawk10 11 years, 3 months ago

Not like teams that play for national championships use picture boards or anything like that, does that make all them dumb as 4 years olds as well?

Jayhawk1116 11 years, 3 months ago

It works for everybody. Icons are registered by the brain way faster than words. Do you read the menu at McDonald's or look for the Big Mac picture?

boknowssports 11 years, 3 months ago

why does one get called a "Gill Hater" when they look at our defense and understand that it is dead last out of 120 FBS teams? Is Gill no longer responsible for both sides of the ball? Is this defense worse than last year? Are we getting 2 million dollars worth out of this coach? I believe he makes more than 7 b-12 coaches, including Snyder, Gundy and the same as Pellini at Nebraska. Since he takes home 167K each week for his pay check, can't we expect a bit more?

Jeff Coffman 11 years, 3 months ago

21st highest paid FBS coach in 2010 and he received a 100k bonus last year (can't figure out why), but that puts him above Pellini.

actorman 11 years, 3 months ago

I agree with ralster that this is an excellent synopsis. But one thing that does really concern me is KU's consistent lack of adjustments at halftime. You could argue that the Hatch injury was a big factor here, but they've been having those problems all season, so I'm not sure that's the main reason, More than anything else, I'm curious to see how KU does in the second halves of games the rest of the year.

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 3 months ago

Maybe they should hold up pictures of players tackling and intercepting passes. There's a novel concept for ya.

Jeff Coffman 11 years, 3 months ago

My concern has been adjustments this entire year...that is usually a sign of a poor coach. MSU - 21-21 NIU - we outscored them by 3 TTU - 28-7 or something like that OSU - we won that battle against their 3rd string...way to go coach (sarcasm should be emphasized) OU - crushed...not to mention only 1 firstdown.

What everyone forgets is we got 3 turnovers in this game, which is what kept this game closer than what it really was.

HCTG needs to learn how to make in-game adjustments. He does a good job of preparing the team for game time, but than everything falls apart when other coaches start making adjustments.

jphog 11 years, 3 months ago

It's like you all expected to win against the #1*3 team. We did great to hang in there for a half, but with the way Webb was playing it was impossible for us to win no matter what we did. Sure it would have been nice to throw more on first down, but that would have just led to more 3rd and long's and probably INTs from Webb. He couldn't hit the 4 yard passes we needed on 3rd down all game so I don't expect he'd be able to make longer ones at any other point.

Ethan Berger 11 years, 3 months ago

These next few games are huge for Gill and our team. This is when we show who we really are.

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