Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Matt Tait’s football notebook: KU adds recruit, loses recruit


Despite its head coaching position being in limbo, KU picked up a surprise commitment from a junior-college defensive lineman on Tuesday.

According to, Ty McKinney, 6-foot-3, 310 pounds, of Trinity Valley Community College in Athens, Texas, committed to defensive line coach Buddy Wyatt during an in-home visit. McKinney was one of KU’s top targets and fills one of KU’s biggest needs. He chose the Jayhawks over offers from Arkansas State, Houston and UTEP and doesn’t appear to be concerned about KU’s future.

“(Coach Wyatt) was pretty excited when I told him,” McKinney told the website. “I really hope to play for him on the defensive line. I think I can come in there and help start building on the defensive line. We are going to build a foundation.”

DE Wilson switches commitment

Any time a school goes through a coaching change, there are always a few guys who decide to leave the program. That’s particularly true of incoming recruits, and KU already has seen some of that happen in the days since former head coach Turner Gill was fired.

Washington, D.C., defensive end De’Jon Wilson, a 6-3, 240-pound end from Woodson High recently switched his commitment from Kansas to Colorado. Wilson had committed to KU in August. He joins Florida cornerback Daniel Gray, 6-foot, 165, in bailing on the Jayhawks. Gray committed to KU in May but changed his commitment to Tennessee during the final weeks of the Jayhawks’ 2-10 season.

Their defections left the Jayhawks with six of the eight recruits they had secured commitments from in the Class of 2012. Several of them have said recently that they’ll wait and see who KU brings in before making a final decision. They include: Blue Valley West offensive lineman Brian Beckmann; Camden, Ark., athlete Derek Keaton; Hialeah, Fla., quarterback Bilal Marshall; Clarksville, Texas, cornerback H.B. Rosser; Garland, Texas, quarterback Seth Russell; and Waco, Texas, tight end Jordan Smith.


texashawk10 10 years, 7 months ago

I am cautiously optimistic about this signing. John Williams was doing a pretty good job at clogging up the middle before he injured his knee and hopefully with KU going back to a 4-3 and having two 300+ lb. DT's means KU will hopefully be able to get some push up front and allow Toben to wreck havoc as a pass rusher because he wasn't very good in pass coverage last year.

KU_Alumn_2000 10 years, 7 months ago

I'm with Gardenjay on this. We should of already had a coach in place at the end of the we can mitigate losing recruits.

I remember when Mangino was hired...he started getting pissed because KU was dragging feet and waited too many days to make the hire. That often result in losing recruits.

The final list of recruits needs to be defensive linemen. As long as our d-line sucks as bad as it does...this program goes no where.

Andy Hess 10 years, 7 months ago

"We should HAVE already had a coach in place..." You should HAVE already learned this in elementary school.

Andy Hess 10 years, 7 months ago

also, NOWHERE is one word, not two. Jeezy creezy....

KU_Alumn_2000 10 years, 7 months ago

Swishy - thanks fr the grammmar adviiice. Working the midnights shifs with 3 houurs sleep may of had something do with improper writing this morning.

We should all be thankfull that us KU fans have a poster on here to correction us in these situation.

Andy Hess 10 years, 7 months ago

well i'm happy to CORRECTION you. really? that had to be intentional. no one with an adult level of education makes that kind of mistake.

Micky Baker 10 years, 7 months ago

I have a feeling that when KU names the head coach, Wilson will change his commitment back as well as the kid from Florida, but 165 lbs? Are we losing anything if he doesn't?

There are a whole lot of recruits with KU on their list that have not committed yet. If it's Leach, Stoops(Mark), or Venables, the eyes might light up.

Though, if Leach comes, wouldn't it make since that he would call Mike Stoops for Defensive Coordinator and maybe give Mangino a call for Offensive Line coach or maybe even Offensive Coordinator?

My preference here is Mark Stoops(on a staff that recruited 5-star defensive players) in a program that had been down for awhile.

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 7 months ago

It's worth a shot. You probably won't hear about it if it doesn't come to fruition but Magino still has a lot of supporters in the Jayhawk family.

Micky Baker 10 years, 7 months ago

There are a whole lot of people that are too afraid to talk about this. So they say "pipe dream".

Joe Ross 10 years, 7 months ago

..."athlete" Derek Keaton??? Um...what position is that exactly? Waterboy?

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 7 months ago

That usually means they can't figure out where to play him. He's good at sumpin' though.

Ted Toulouse 10 years, 7 months ago

I think McDougald technically came to us as an "athlete" because most places were recruiting him as a DB but he wanted to play WR, which is one of the main reasons we pulled him away from Ohio State at the time.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 7 months ago

Pierson was also labeled ATH coming out of HS if I recall correctly.

Dyrk Dugan 10 years, 7 months ago

McKinney's commitment is big....he commits while we still don't actually have a coach. kudos to him.

i agree with the sentiments above....let's get a coach in here by the end of the week......we need to be able to secure this class and then some. much longer than that, the new guy will have to start over.

irvan moore 10 years, 7 months ago

been a while since i went fishing but it seems like i remember it takes a little longer to land a big fish than a small fish. leach is in a great position, several schools would like to have him, only one going to get him.

jayhawkryno 10 years, 7 months ago

Any chance if we go after a defensive-minded coach (Venables) that Mitchell will be the OC?

Jim Williamson 10 years, 7 months ago

I find it ironic that Turner Gill (and Mangino, for that matter) couldn't recruit a DT to save his life. Three days after he's canned, boom.

Rae Bricil 10 years, 7 months ago

Not being rude but I am missing the irony. Could you please elaborate? thanks

John Boyle 10 years, 7 months ago

+1 We signed one and lost one so no gain and certainly not that ironic.

Andy Hess 10 years, 7 months ago

technically, we lost an undersized DE who was, by all reports, slated to make the switch to OLB and possibly see spot duty as a rush end in 3rd down situations. Basically a similar position to what Opurum plays now.

KU_Alumn_2000 10 years, 7 months ago

Hey you might want to capitalize Technically. Geeze didnt you learn that in pre-school ? Also, that 2nd sentence seems to run on. It may flow better if you add a period after OLB. By the way, using abbreviations is not conducive to comprehensive reading since some folks may not understand what means. By now "introvert" !

Andy Hess 10 years, 7 months ago

1 - i don't capitalize when i don't feel like it. there's a massive difference between capitalization and grammar. if you don't know the difference then god help you, because i sure can't. 2 - the second sentence is a sentence fragment, not a run on sentence. the first sentence, though long, is not a run on. if you're going to criticize, at least do it correctly. 3- if you're on a sports web site, discussing football, and don't know that OLB means outside linebacker, you should probably be at home coloring in your coloring books.

squawkhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Give this, I'm thinking we could probably win 3 or 4 games next year without a head coach.

all_in 10 years, 7 months ago

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