Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Gary Bedore’s KU hoops notebook: KU hurt by cramps a decade ago

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor winces in pain as he lies on the ground with cramps during the second half on Monday, Nov. 21, 2011 at the Lahaina Civic Center.

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor winces in pain as he lies on the ground with cramps during the second half on Monday, Nov. 21, 2011 at the Lahaina Civic Center.


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KU coach Bill Self, Tyshawn Taylor, Elijah Johnson and Travis Releford talk to reporters following the Jayhawks' 67-63 victory over Georgetown on Nov. 22, 2011.

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Jayhawks' Taylor out due to cramps

Kansas University's basketball team seemed to have figured out how to avoid cramps after three Jayhawks were plagued with them during the 2001 Maui Invitational ... then Tyshawn Taylor went down with cramps early in the second half of the Jayhawks' 2011 Maui debut early Tuesday morning.

With 14:21 left, Taylor hit the deck complaining of pain in his legs and immediately came out of the game. He returned at 9:42 and played the rest of the way.

— It has been 10 long years since Kansas University’s basketball team suffered a painful 93-91 loss to Ball State in the first round of the 2001 Maui Invitational.

The anguish came not only from an upset defeat to a Mid-American Conference school, but from crippling cramps suffered by KU’s Nick Collison, Drew Gooden and Aaron Miles during the contest.

“That was back when there was no air conditioning in the gym,” KU coach Bill Self recalled of muggy Lahaina Civic Center.

Partly because of what happened in ’01 — other teams also had cramp issues — central air was added to the small, 2,400-seat gym a few years later, and incidents have been at a minimum since.

Still, the Jayhawks were wary of possibly cramping up in the 2011 Invitational, which kicked off against Georgetown on Monday night.

“I’ve heard it’s humid. We’ve just got to make sure to drink a lot of water,” KU sophomore guard Elijah Johnson said leading up to the game.

Former KU forward Scot Pollard did not suffer cramps during the 1996 Maui Invitational, in which KU beat LSU, Cal and Virginia en route to the title.

He and his Jayhawk teammates had other problems, though.

“I just remember the floor was always wet. We had to stop the game and wipe it up,” Pollard said. “It got to where you were more worried about injury than messing up in the game. The floor was so slick you were thinking, ‘OK, I am going down for a dunk, here’s what I have to do.’ That’s not something you normally think about, but if guys are going up for dunks and are slipping and falling on their butts and sliding into the backstand ... that was a factor.

“It was hot in the gym and very humid. It’s a little pressure cooker in there, a little box. The game took way longer than it should of because they had to keep stopping it to wipe the floor over and over again.”

KU coach Self’s 2005-06 KU team didn’t have cramping issues in Maui.

“Our problems were getting the ball across halfcourt against Arizona, not cramping,” joked Self, whose Jayhawks lost to Arizona and Arkansas and beat Chaminade that year.


The Jayhawks, who already have made trips to New York (Nov. 14-15) and Maui this season, didn’t forget about classwork on this trip. KU officials indicated the players brought their books. Senior Jordan Juenemann is working on an important paper on the trip.


kusportsdotcom 10 years, 6 months ago

Come on now, we all know these guys don't go to class anyways... Well, OK, maybe the walk-ons do, since they have to pay for it.

manginorh00lz 10 years, 6 months ago

Josh Selby was able to do an entire semester's work in only a month. Hooray KU tutors!


ok, we cheat too

Rob Wempe 10 years, 6 months ago

Do you own any other color hat besides black? It doesn't matter the subject, that is your position.

Alex Staley 10 years, 6 months ago

That couldn't be more incorrect. As long as they aren't traveling, they are in class. I had a class with several athletes a few years ago (including B Rush, Jake Sharpe, Kerry Meier) and they were always there, barring roadtrips. There is actually an enforcer that stands outside the classroom and waits for them to come out so they can initial a piece of paper proving they were actually there. They are definitely held accountable.

Jim Jackson 10 years, 6 months ago

Precisely, there was a dude watching over these guys constantly, making sure they were in class.

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 6 months ago

That was the case when I was in school back in the Glen Mason days. Not sure why that would have changed.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

It's absolutely ridiculous that they could have a major tournament in that gym for years without having air conditioning in it. I can't believe it wasn't put in many years earlier, and I can't believe it wasn't more common knowledge. For example, could that have been one of the reasons that Chaminade pulled that all-time shocker over number 1 Virginia?

On another note, Gary, you guys need to be consistent with your capacity listings for the gym. You list it here as 2,400, but in another one of tonight's articles (I forget which one) it refers to the capacity as being 3,500. So which is it?

Steve Gantz 10 years, 6 months ago

If that caused the Chaminade all-time shocker then I'm glad for it. That was memorable indeed!

kupride4u 10 years, 6 months ago

It's called home-court advantage. Their players were used to the humidity and no AC

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

BTW, if I recall correctly, one of the broadcasters referred to yet another number for the capacity: 2,500.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 6 months ago

3500 when Duke plays, 2500 when everybody else plays!

crshook 10 years, 6 months ago

Yea... but think if we play duke later in this tourney

JayDocMD 10 years, 6 months ago

"Senior Jordan Juenemann is working on an important paper on the trip."

Suggestions for the "Super Committee" to balance the budget? Perhaps a list of football HC candidates for SZ to choose from? Perhaps the ultimate hair gel guide?

Don't leave us hanging like that - I must know the essence of young Juenemann's essay...

Kyle Schneweis 10 years, 6 months ago

Come on LJW, don't leave me hanging! What subject is Juenemann's paper in? How long does it have to be?

Lance Hobson 10 years, 6 months ago

Oh man, I remember that 2005 game against Arizona, those awesome rookies we had were so out of control. It's funny to think about.

Martin Shupert 10 years, 6 months ago

I'm amazed at how easy it is for someone who knows nothing about a subject can sound so sure of himself. For a while in grad school, I did research on the tutoring programs for athletes at KU. Later, I attended a few basketball practices and saw, first hand, how hard Bill Self came down on players who either failed to attend a class or missed an appointment with a professor. I saw one player lose his status as a starter and he never got that back... mostly because he failed to show up for a meeting with a professor. At every practice I attended, I heard Coach Self ask the assistants if there was anyone who had missed class that week. My advisor told me that Hinrich would always attend class except when they were out of town and sometimes, he would fall asleep in class, obviously exhausted from a trip, but he had to be there. In other words, kusportsdotcom, you're full of you konw what (or maybe you don't know what).

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

I must be missing something, martyks. What's in kusportsdotcom that would lead you to believe they don't take Self's academic focus seriously?

Gregor Southard 10 years, 6 months ago

What team was it that won for best academics in college BB, again? Oh yeah, Kansas

lee3022 10 years, 6 months ago

Not only is KU the ranking basketball school for academics (ACT) but we have consistently turned out All-Big XII and All-American academic players. Most get their degrees.

Any attempt to disparage or label the program as cheaters is insulting to the coach, the AD, the players and the fans. If you feel you must do so I request you go away - mizzou's web site will love you and you will feel right at home there with other negativists and you accusations there might actually have a kernel of truth.

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