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Saturday, December 17, 2011

Decorated QB Jake Heaps to visit KU

Charlie Weis laughs at the podium as he addresses media members during a news conference in which Weis was announced as the new football coach for KU on Friday, Dec. 9, 2011 at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

Charlie Weis laughs at the podium as he addresses media members during a news conference in which Weis was announced as the new football coach for KU on Friday, Dec. 9, 2011 at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

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Jake Heaps, the No. 1-ranked pro-style quarterback in Rivals.com’s class of 2010, will visit Kansas University this weekend, Jayhawkslant.com is reporting.

The 6-foot-1, 200-pound quarterback from Issaquah, Wash., spent the last two seasons at BYU before requesting a transfer. He will have to sit out a year if he transfers to another FBS school.

Out of high school, Heaps was pursued by Notre Dame, which at the time was led by current KU coach Charlie Weis.

Comments

willie_fu_fu 10 years, 7 months ago

So will he be a soph or Jr whe he becomes eligble to play?

kellerman411 10 years, 7 months ago

He will be a Junior. I'm as optimistic as they come but we really shouldn't get our hopes up. It really sounds like he wants to go to the west coast. His short list includes USC, Cal, Washington and Washington State. It would be sweet though.

okiedave 10 years, 7 months ago

Regardless, this is progress having a former 5 star QB visiting.

baldwinjhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

We need to go to pittsburg state and get their stud sophomore linebacker Nate Dreiling from hutch. He's a huge monster. We should have got him earlier!

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 7 months ago

Gorillas won the Div. II Championship today.

kellerman411 10 years, 7 months ago

Has anyone heard anything about Dayne Crist's decision. It's 3 in the morning and I'm scouring the web to see if he made his decision (It's dedication people). He said he was going to decide before the weekend.

If we can land Dayne Crist it will be a big as@ stamp of approval on KU football and we will be able to compete for the best O-lineman and receivers who are looking for a talented quarterback to make them look good.

Because so many people know how good of a relationship Dayne and CW have, it will really not look good if Dayne doesn't come to Kansas. It will likely cause others to steer clear as well.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

From what I read from an NBC article last night, his decision comes early this weekend. As far as his playmaking this throw late in the fourth quarter with his team down shows why he was so highly ranked. Nice flick of a throw here. Looks like he barely even throws it, but it's right on target. Listen to the announcers discuss Crist making this play happen by staying in the pocket. Heaps and Crist and Dieter fit perfect for what Weis will do at Kansas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2UBEBcOnw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

kellerman411 10 years, 7 months ago

Yeah dude, his ball velocity is so flipping deceptive. It looks like he is barely throwing it and it's a 50 yard lazer. This guy will be on a Sunday roster no doubt about it.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

Kellerman, totally agree. Also note the way the fans are on top of the field practically. If Weis brings to Kansas Crist, Heaps and Dieter I suspect Zenger will start digging a spot for the field to be 10 feet lower all by himself. Surely there's a firm in KC with nice KU connections that can do this as a gift or a much better deal than what UW is paying. 10 more rows into the earth, not for the sake of 10,000 extra KU fans---although that's a great added part of this----but 10 more rows of fans practically on top of the field just like ND has here in the clip to give Kansas a true pit!

RCJ Weis and Zenger!

Andy Hess 10 years, 7 months ago

How many times does it need to be said before you guys realize that they will NEVER lower the field to add seats. They would have to redo all the angles in the stadium rows in order to get natural sight lines again. It's way too much work and way too expensive for something that will likely never be necessary. It will not happen. Ever. Stop talking about it.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

Not true about redoing the rest of the stadium but I do respect your opinion. The naysayers on this are fine because you're on the side of the University saving money, which most all of us are for too. Also keep in mind the naysayer crowd arrived after an anonymous poster on this site put the project at between $50 and $250 million. Personally I appreciate that post because it got us talking. From a scholastic and business standpoint I'd like to see a firm from KC come in and show us the real cost. Lowering the field can be done, that's a fact. Sump pumps can be used, that's a fact.

Shouldn't we see a real report from the university before we jump on the naysayer bandwagon instead of relying on a poster who posted an estimate from a -complete- stadium renovation?

Why not get a KC firm involved, it would be another way to get our footprint attached even more firmly to KC?

Lower it and make it a pit. At the very least we should get a reliable estimate and not base it on a complete stadium renovation!

If Kansas decides they can't do it because it's too expensive right now then I'd like to see who they're talking to about loans because colleges build $500 million stadiums nowadays.

Let's put it this way, there is no way it's $250 million much less $50 million. No way unless you're renovating everything in Memorial.

But even if it is $50 million, it's a renovation 10-20 year low low interest loan and an investment that's well worth it from a marketing standpoint. In short the money that comes out of this after 10 years greatly surpasses the money put in, especially when considering the TV contracts.

It can be done before next fall's kickoff.

Lower the field Zenger!

Dan Harris 10 years, 7 months ago

Not to mention the drainage nightmare, they will have to blow it up and start over and I just don't see that happening.

741hawk 10 years, 7 months ago

You must not be a regular poster. I've communicated on a number of occasions that three months after bringing this to the attention of Dolph Simons, Jr., Dolph copied me on the three page letter from the engineering firm that did a study. It CAN be done. And it HAS been done in many stadiums built in the 20s - 40s. Oklahoma took out their track, for example, in 1948. We are WAY behind the times in having a first-class football facility.

If you can't support the removal of the track, start supporting a new stadium!

jhawk2325 10 years, 7 months ago

What are you, an architectural engineer? Chill.

lifetimeJay 10 years, 7 months ago

Wow!, he throws it 50 yards on that play like it was one of those footballs that whistle and has a tail fin on it. I can't imagine having a quarterback like that at KU. Go Weis!

Bob Forer 10 years, 7 months ago

The throw was especially amazing in its trajectory. I know Reesing had a longer throw for a touchdown, but if I recall, he really had to sky it and heaved it while running forward. Heaps' arm strength is amazing.

Dan Pawlowski 10 years, 7 months ago

Not exactly a glass half full kind of guy are you.

Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Crist for a year then Heaps for 2... I like it.

Billy Derringer 10 years, 7 months ago

even if they dont come, just getting there here will slowly start a percepstion an reputation that kansas is worth checkin out, its all about numbers have enough top tier guys come visit an you should get a few commits. i just never understood why top basketbal always seems to love this place , nice place to be before i turn pro they say. we are totally capable of being a real program on the rise. i wonder some times if recruting in the winter is good ideal? some hate the cold. im pretty stoked, lets do this..

scarletbhound 10 years, 7 months ago

Derringer29: Why don't you make some effort to proofread your comments. While you make some good points, your misspellings suggest you are not well educated so you lose credibility among the largely college-educated people who follow KU sports. Moreover, your carelessness is actually an insult to the rest of us -- you don't care enough about your audience to write in clear English. Sorry if you take umbrage at this, but your poor grammar and spelling lowers the quality of discussion.

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Why don't you join the grammar police somewhere else? While you are there....try getting over yourself.

beebe1 10 years, 7 months ago

Scarlet::: Hey, maybe he had a stroke, as I did, and his hands don't work! Give us all a break. Yes some of our stuff could be improved, like using 'lose' for loose. Figure it out -- and we're all entitled to have opinions.

KCHawk81 10 years, 7 months ago

Scarlet, don't forget to punctuate those questions with a question mark. Like this:

"Why don't you make some effort to proofread your comments?"

And don't forget that you need to use the third-person plural form of a verb if you have a compound subject. Like this:

"Your poor grammar and spelling lower the quality of discussion."

Other than that, you make some good points.

All that said, Heaps would be a great addition. His playing time at BYU suggests he needs some polishing, but he has the capability to make throws and he gets rid of the ball quick. I think he'd benefit greatly from working with Weis and Powlus for a year.

lurkerhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Scarletbhound: Why don't you make some effort to proofread your comments? Question Mark. While you make some good points, your lack of conscience suggests you are not well educated in the humanities so you lose credibility among the largely college-educated people who follow KU sports. Moreover, your pretentiousness is actually an insult to the rest of us -- you don't care enough about your fellow man to write in clear propriety. Sorry if you take umbrage at this, but your poor character and altruism lowers the quality of discussion.

ManginoRevenge 10 years, 7 months ago

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flyingfinn 10 years, 7 months ago

"Holy cow", as a well known baseball brodacaster would have said; I thought this was a blog session on KU sports not an English 401 class. Give us all a break and get off of yor high horse, this is suppose to be fun and we are not writing for pencil heads like you. And oh my goodness I did forget to spell check and check my punctuation!!!

JJHAWK 10 years, 7 months ago

Getting 5* quarterback prospects to 'visit' is certainly a big step for Kansas football. Sure makes it more exciting. RCJH

Chris Bruning 10 years, 7 months ago

Something tells me he would have 3 years of eligibility at his next school? correct me if im wrong but 1 of his 2 years at BYU was a redshirt, again, correct me if im wrong.

Seth Nesmith 10 years, 7 months ago

Only 2 years. He would have to sit out one season and then have 2 seasons left to play.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 7 months ago

He had a really good year as a True Freshman...last year he was a sophmore and was benched halfway through the season.

He will transfer which would ends up being a red-shirt.

Than he will have two years of elgibility left to actually play.

Chris Bailey 10 years, 7 months ago

I'll correct you. If you transfer to an FBS school you blow your redshirt year or waste a year of eligibility. That is the rule.

John Mueller 10 years, 7 months ago

Agree with all of the above. Certainly exciting to think about.

I don't know anything about Heaps, but i am almost certain that Crist is going to Wisconsin.

Why in the world would he come to Kansas?

It would be different if he had 4 years, but 1?

I would think his chances of playing meaningful football (Rose Bowl) are much, much better at Wisconsin (unless he doesn't think he can win the job?)

NJHAWK 10 years, 7 months ago

Wisconsin will not go to Rose Bowl next year. OSU, Michigan, and Nebraska will be stronger next year than Wisconsin.

Steven Mathew 10 years, 7 months ago

I think with only one year left, it's not so much about winning, but trying to look good for pro NFL scouts. And I certainly think Charlie Weis will make him look better than he is rather than the Wisconsin coach (Bret Bielema, I think). But that's my opinion.

kellerman411 10 years, 7 months ago

Rumors are coming out that he has already verbally committed to Charlie but is waiting until later today to come out with an "official" verbal committ out of respect for Wisconsin and his visit with them. I don't get it either but, keep the faith man we need this guy.

kellerman411 10 years, 7 months ago

I read this on a few message boards early this morning, mostly from South Bend locals.

Chris Bailey 10 years, 7 months ago

Wisconsin is a run first team. I'm pretty sure Crist is a pocket passer. Sure Wisconsin sounds like a great fit but when you look at him coming to Kansas he will be the best player on the field and throwing the ball in the pass happy Big12 could do nothing but make him look good with Wies as his coach.

Eric Bernauer 10 years, 7 months ago

It is because he only has one year that I expect Kansas to be a strong contender. Crist is already familiar with Weis's offense and terminology so he won't have to learn a new offense from the ground up. He also has a coach in Weis who doesn't have to learn Crist's strengths and weaknesses from ground zero. Each knows the other and can hit the ground running (passing!). If you only have one year to audition for the NFL, you want to show your whole package, not start off with limited, basic throws as your coach learns to trust you.

Ron Franklin 10 years, 7 months ago

It really is crazy. This guy has the name--he can just walk in to nearly every household in America. It's like he's a celebrity or something :)

jhox 10 years, 7 months ago

I'm anxious to find out if Weis has ran off Brock Berglund yet. I still believe he's a guy who can help this program if we can just get him on campus. I went back on youtube yesterday an looked at some of his highlight films again, and I'm amazed that a 6'5" prototype big arm QB can run as well as he runs. I'm not saying he would necessarily beat out Crist or Heaps, if either of them end up at KU, but he is a kid I'd definitely like to have in the fold. HIs court case is apparently January 10th. If he can put those issues behind him, and be on campus second semester, he can get a fresh start at KU and be eligible immediately.

Jayhawker111 10 years, 7 months ago

SALT LAKE CITY -- There is no doubt that Jake Heaps rates as one of the most disappointing quarterback prospects to play in the state of Utah, as evidenced by his decision to transfer after just two years at BYU.

With two years of eligibility remaining, there is plenty of time for the book on Heaps' college career to close with a fairytale ending. Which is good, because those chapters certainly couldn't be any more ghoulish than what Heaps has already had to endure.

Just like Heaps can play his way off or even down this ignomious list of quarterbacks, he stands atop it because no one did more to aid Heaps' transformation from hotshot prospect into collosal bust than Jake Heaps himself.

His press conference at a local restaurant to announce his impending signing with BYU — even if it included a couple of highly touted recruits — immediately gave Heaps an image of a grandstander. He talked of winning national championships, but couldn't beat Utah State. It's hard to imagine that Heaps' laissez-faire attitude toward his own turnovers endeared himself to his teammates. And even if Heaps does go on to a successful collegiate career, he'll always carry the foul odor of a 54-10 loss to Utah like the stink on a skunk.

With less fanfare and more humility, Heaps' fall might be viewed in a more sympathetic light. Instead, he will forever undergo the harsh glare and scrutiny afforded one who fails to deliver the goods.

okiedave 10 years, 7 months ago

Sounds like it was the BYU Defense that failed to deliver the goods in the Utah game. Do not believe Heaps could do much about that. Perhaps we need a high profile QB with some swagger and who publicly commit to winning national championships.

actorman 10 years, 7 months ago

You mean like the way that Turner Gill committed to winning national championships?

Dajoga 10 years, 7 months ago

Did you see the game? Honest question because if you did you would know that the BYU OFFENSE GAVE the ball to Utah 7 times....SEVEN TIMES!! Many times in great field position.. BYU's defense wasn't the problem..BYU's defense is good this year, look at the stats. Jake can be good I think..But he Struggled at BYU. I wish the best for him..

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Forever is a long time. If he comes here and succeeds, it would be more like 3 years.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 7 months ago

If I recall right, he had a terrific True Freshman year and performed well. BYU had hopes of performing great this year and the offense and defense didn't click. Heaps was throwing some pretty bad passes, but kept them in games against Texas and actually beat Ole Miss at Ole Miss; however, as with any team the favorite person on the team when things aren't going well is the backup QB. The coach seemed to cave and benched Heaps...than Heaps knew the writing on the wall and announced his transfer.

If announcing your decision at a local restaurant is grand standing, I'm surprised. I've seen people get the three hats, I've seen people get ESPN to follow them for a week. I've even seen people pull out puppies.

Long and short of it, this guy has talent and a red-shirt under HCCW would do anyone good.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 7 months ago

Meachem like Hyple (sp?) came from Snow Junior College. A big Junior College.

Heaps actually is from a Division 1 Team. Last time I checked BYU has a National Championship (1984) and a Heisman Trophy Winner (Ty Detmer - 1990). It use to be known as the QB Factory producing the following QBs. Steve Young, Jim McMahon, Robbie Boscoe (injured early in career), Gifford Nielson (going back), Steve sarkisian, John Beck (currently not doing well with Washington), you could add Ty Detmer to that list. I'm sure there are a few others that I forgot. my point is that a Jr College Transfer is way different than a D1 transfer that was a 5-Star Recruit that chose BYU over USC, Washington and Oregon. If I remember right he was the #1 QB out of his class and was like a top 5 recruit.

Dajoga 10 years, 7 months ago

I wish Heaps all the luck in the world as a huge BYU fan. I was very disappointed to see him go..But for us its not hard to move on because Jake really didn't get the job done...He didn't develop his reads and progressions very well and failed time after time to get the ball to open receivers..but I was very hopeful he could fix that and become the next great QB at BYU.. didn't happen..I am very hopeful he will be good for you guys..I'll be cheering for Kansas at some point in the future..

VaJay 10 years, 7 months ago

What is so great is that our new coach is showing us that he can get into about just any living room and get just about any kid to come see us! That is refreshing to see and bodes well for our recruiting. Can't wait to see who our DC will be!

Chris Bruning 10 years, 7 months ago

I would love to get Heaps, but i look at it this way: If Ole Charlie is getting these high profile transfers to check us out, and we miss on them, then i would think he could get some real good high school talent to come as well..Either way KU football seems to be on the rise!

phi4life940 10 years, 7 months ago

He went to Longhorn Steakhouse on Iowa last night. In case anyone was curious. Rock Chalk.

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

For those who live out of town, it's 50-degrees, sunny and beautiful here today. Downtown and the campus are sparkling....

hawksince51 10 years, 7 months ago

As several have said, it is impressive that Weis can get these OB's to consider KU even if they go somewhere else. He probably still has the ability to recruit QB's but I hope he is also working hard on the other side of the ball. I would love to hear about some 4 or 5 star D linemen, linebackers, or backs considering KU. QB's alone only fill my glass 1/4th full.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

Interesting that not only the Lawrence Journal World, but the Washington Post, the NY times, the NY Daily, the Ohio State paper, the Wisconsin paper, the South Bend paper, the Chicago Tribune continue to outscoop the Topeka Capital Journal and the KC Star the last couple days on the Weis stories.

I thought these two papers were competing for local readers!

RCJ Zenger!

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 7 months ago

Hahahahahahaha, so true! The best is the ljw let their football beat writer go on vacation during the first week of Weis' employment. Smack dab in the middle of recruiting. All of that copy and pasting of other people's articles during the coaching search must have worn him out.

actorman 10 years, 7 months ago

Blackhawk is right about your statement being harsh, but using the word "true" is quite a stretch.

The amount of work that Tait put into the "copying and pasting of other people's articles" far surpassed what most reporters do to write their articles themselves, and it gave us a tremendous amount of information.

To denigrate it with such a condescending comment is incredibly unfair.

jaybate 10 years, 7 months ago

"KU Football Dunciad Continuous?"

Don't recall so many articles on football out of season, when so little was actually happening.

Did you notice some transfer that couldn't cut it at BYU visited and was billed as the top football story? Gee, I don't know. It seems like a major player quitting the team might be considered a wee bit bigger deal.

Did you notice that we are supposed to care that Jake was recruited to ND once. Like if he was good enough for Notre Dame, wow, he must be good enough for KU! Heaps was once recruited by Notre Dame? Memo to LJW: Notre Dame is not Texas, or OU, or half a dozen top SEC schools. Its a one time great program that Charles Weis recently coached to 35-27 before being shown the exit ramp out of South Bend.

Did you notice the headline on Jake Heaps read "decorated" but then we never learned what medals in what war he was decorated for fighting in? Decorations? Decorations in the headline? We don't need to mention no stinking decorations in the body of the story!"

Oh, and some nice linking of an irrelevant, untimely story called something like "Scandals and Realignment Ruin 2011" to dilute the impact of the real news: KU lost another football player not enchanted by Charles Weis.

And so it goes.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

From what I understand Kansas football has never had a five star recruit before. Not even one. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In two weekends, we have a shot at three different five star players. Heaps, Crist, Deiter.

I'll take it. Important for KU basketball to stay in a good conference, so this is very good for the -cradle- as you call it!

Much more money down the road for the University, the basketball program and all if Weis continues bringing in five stars!

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 7 months ago

I don't know but I saw someone post that Dana Stubblefield and a couple of others were 5-Star recruits. However, I would back you sentiment, generally speaking 4-Star recruits are rare, let alone 5 Star. The fact that HCCW got 2 of them to mention KU in one weekend is a pretty good feat in and in itself.

Both would be huge wins for KU.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

Thanks for the information. I saw on youtube his highlight game where he broke the national record for receiving. Somehow I thought he was a five star, he did play a lot like the walk-on from KSU whose on the Packers now. Oregon wants him too so there's at least some evidence that he must be pretty good at running routes!

RCJ

hawksince51 10 years, 7 months ago

When did the star rankings start? Certainly Mike McCormick, Galen Fisk, Hadl, McClinton, Coan, Pappy Hageman, Sayers, John Riggins, David Jaynes, and Nolan Cromwell deserved 4 star or better.

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

ND is one of the all-time winningest football programs in history - both in total wins and in national championships. They have their own television network, land 5-star recruits on a regular basis and are headed to a bowl game. I see your point: KU and ND are just about even in football.

Dirk Medema 10 years, 7 months ago

Are you going to be Ahperse v.12?

The annoyingly ignorant rants are so out of character from the rest of your writing that at least attempts to be intelligent or humorous.

The significance of Heaps being recruited to ND is that there is an existing relationship with Weis.

dino5540 10 years, 7 months ago

And you're a Tool if you think Weis is going to come in here and turn this around!

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 7 months ago

Jaybate is done. He realizes people have stopped reading his daily 53 paragraph manifesto on basketball links and has now moved onto look-at-me-look-at-me post on the football side of things. Just keep ignoring him and it will stop. But I must warn you that things will get much worse before they get better. Look for him to post crotch shots and personal sex tapes in the fan blog section. Anything for attention!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

"Mister Andy Kaufman's gone wrestling, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now Andy, did you hear about this one? Tell me are you locked in the punch? Hey, Andy are you goofing on Elvis, hey baby, Are you having fun?"

Dan Harris 10 years, 7 months ago

You need to rename yourself Dr Jeykle and Mr Hyde!

dino5540 10 years, 7 months ago

99% of the posters on here are in for a RUDE jolt back to reality this Fall. Enjoy your little party now.

Bville Hawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Do you wear purple and white or black and gold panties?

actorman 10 years, 7 months ago

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance that dino will be right. Everyone's excited about a few recruits. Weiss had great recruits at ND and couldn't win there (after his first couple of years with someone else's players), so why is everyone so convinced that his results will be different at KU? Have people forgotten that his recruiting classes at ND were ranked in the top 10 in the county and his record after the first 2 years was pretty dismal?

Maybe he's learned from that experience and will be better this time, but I'll believe it when I see it. As much as I would love to be excited about CW being at KU, I'm mystified that people are so thrilled about him.

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Okay.....I'll enjoy it now. So what happens with this JOLT Nostradamus? We get beat by 50-points on a regular basis? Was that supposed to be the "good times"? The team will be better, this really isn't a question - the stadium will largely be filled and Jayhawks everywhere will rejoice! Beak That!

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Okay.....I'll enjoy it now. So what happens with this JOLT Nostradamus? We get beat by 50-points on a regular basis? Was that supposed to be the "good times"? The team will be better, this really isn't a question - the stadium will largely be filled and Jayhawks everywhere will rejoice! Beak That!

johnnyphoton 10 years, 7 months ago

I'd really like to read some analysis that has teeth. Why not? Why the negativity? I'm not sold on bringing in 5 star recruits that won't be protected, or have a defense good enough to give the 5 start recruit the ball. I'm no football guy, so which comes first? A stud quarterback or the offensive linemen? If I assume the quarterback comes first, then bravo Coach Weis. Either way, I'd like to see some big ol' offensive linemen prospects.

Bob Forer 10 years, 7 months ago

Proof positive why Zenger pulled the trigger on Charlie Weis.

Micky Baker 10 years, 7 months ago

I'm not sure that it's possible that he comes here, but to have the top rated QB in the class of 2010 to come to Kansas to make a visit is a step in the right direction for this program. He might just like the beauty of the campus, it's proximity to Kansas City, and of course, Allen Field House.

It isn't just that but the Kansas Family is so close. Thomas Robinson is a fine example of that and other former players. I would not be surprised if he does or doesn't accept an offer at Kansas. Obviously, Weis is a better fit at Kansas than he was at Notre Dame, because the Big 12 is the best offensive league in college football.

By the way, ND is the all time winningest program in college football history. For those that say, "It was a one time deal", is a complete embarrassment for the fan base at Kansas. Remember, Alabama was not so good in the 1990s, nor was the Oklahoma.

I also remember the respect that Kansas was getting when Glen Mason was here. Kansas played in the kick off classic at Notre Dame, and they didn't beat us by 50. They beat us something like 27-13 at Notre Dame. Kansas played Michigan State, California, Florida State, etc.

Weis will get this program back to that, and maybe even over the hump to a Conference Championship and a place in the Title Game. I'm not going to say that it will happen next year, but we will certainly win 5 or 6 next year under Weis, especially if Crist or Heaps comes to Kansas. We have plenty of offensive weapons to use.

I think that the defensive backfield will be better as well and Weis is one of them "little things" kind of guys that Gill didn't embrace. Those little things, like the one play against Kansas State just before the end of the half when the nickel back went to cover the guy in the flat while the other cb and safety doubled the guy on the vertical route down the left side, leaving the middle wide open. Just tip that ball and Kansas State doesn't get that field goal and they didn't get the momentum.

Gill made bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.

dino5540 10 years, 7 months ago

I suspect you'll still be blaming Gill when Weis doesn't get his "5 or 6 next year." Why keep kicking Gill, he's gone? Go pick on your dog or kids or grandkids, etc.

shelleysue 10 years, 7 months ago

We paid Gill 10 million dollars and we haven't quite got that out of him yet.

shelleysue 10 years, 7 months ago

Yes we. Where do you think the money comes from? Taxes. Tickets. KU merchandise. Tuition. Donations . You know. Stuff like that.

Micky Baker 10 years, 7 months ago

dino, Where in there did I say Gill would be blamed if Weis doesn't get his 5 or 6 wins next year? Ever heard of the word "Demagogue"?

The last two seasons were clearly GILL'S FAULT! He darn near destroyed this program for a decade or longer!

Tim Orel 10 years, 7 months ago

From http://collegefootball.about.com/od/schools/a/schools-wins.htm:

  1. Michigan: 877-304-38
  2. Texas: 845-321-34
  3. Notre Dame: 837-291-42
  4. Nebraska: 827-341-41
  5. Ohio State: 819-308-53
  6. Alabama: 813-316-43
  7. Penn State 812-351-43
  8. Oklahoma: 796-305-53
  9. Tennessee: 783-333-55
  10. USC: 774-307-54

A little googling can solve so many questions.

Micky Baker 10 years, 7 months ago

Oh, my bad. 837-291-42 is a "one time deal" right? Can you stick with the context? Seriously. BTW, 3rd best all time, .715 winning percentage, 2nd all time in winning percentage, and only as of recent years were they "2nd all time". So, can we be real for once? We're talking 5, 6 games at the most, from being the top in winning percentage. That won't take long for them to get back, if Michigan has just one bad season. See how that works?

I'm just saying, that was the point of my post. So you can nit pick or maybe tell the other person how wrong they are.

actorman 10 years, 7 months ago

And what exactly in Weis's history makes you so confident that he'll have KU competing for, much less winning, a conference title??? You might be right about the 5 or 6 wins in his first year, which would of course be tremendous after what we've experienced the last couple of years. But there is nothing from his history at ND that makes it obvious that he'll be able to take KU past that.

actorman 10 years, 7 months ago

And BTW, before you point to the obvious example of Weis's first two years at ND, I would say that he inherited slightly better talent there than he's inheriting at KU. The question is why he did so poorly after those first two years, when he was supposedly bringing in his own great talent.

Micky Baker 10 years, 7 months ago

I'd suggest that you watch his introduction press conference. He answered that question. I'm not going to do your leg work for you. I think that since he blamed himself for it and didn't make excuses for it is indicative of someone that learned from a mistake. But, be my guest to come up with your own original thought.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

CBS sports and NBC sports are now reporting on Heaps, Crist and Weis.

Hello Topeka Capital Journal and KC Star---you're missing a bunch of clicks!

johnnyhrdwd 10 years, 7 months ago

Our media sucks, our local media should be outdoing the national media on our program.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 7 months ago

Don't agree..The LJW is a well respected award winning news outlet dating back to the 1860's

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt----Could the Topeka Capital Journal and KC Star just be in shock? They sure are missing out on a bunch of clicks. Big rule for local newspapers when you have national sites like ESPN, CBS, NBC, the Washington Post, the New York Times, the NY Post, etc, reporting your local news and you are not----You better be reporting it too down the road, because you now have a chance to gain readership and bigger future advertising money from South Bend, Florida, Wisconsin, Washington, Utah, Illinois, New York, New England, Missouri and all the other states that seem to be really interested in every move Weis makes.

I have faith they'll catch up with Weis at some point. But if I'm editor of either the Topeka Capital Journal or the KC Star, talk about getting outscooped by the national media!

All you have to do is post a quick recruiting story about three five star kids considering playing for Weis, the man with four super bowl rings, it can't be that hard!

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

Incredibly even Michigan State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Florida, Indiana among many other college football sites are reporting on Weis and his recruiting as of this week.

Local papers outscooped by other colleges all over the US?

Wow!

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 7 months ago

Okay..not the right place but...How Bout Those GORILLAS!

hawksince51 10 years, 7 months ago

I enjoyed the game and it was great to see KS have an NCAA FB NC. Why wasn't their coach (Tim Beck) on Zenger's prospect list? Both are Western KS Germans. The annoncers rattled off numerous successful NFL and BCS coaches that have passed thru Pitt. State.

texashawk10 10 years, 7 months ago

I heard 3 names. One has flopped at his last two BCS jobs, one is likely going to be pursued heavily by KSU when Snyder steps down, and the other has major health concerns that will scare quite a few schools away even if he ends up being successful at Minnesota.

shelleysue 10 years, 7 months ago

Given what Weis did with Brady you'd think just about any qb wouldwant to take a good look at him.

treed14ku 10 years, 7 months ago

How did they "outscoop" the local papers? All the SN said was that Crist was deciding between KU and Wisconsin. We already knew that.

JayHok 10 years, 7 months ago

We did thanks to the Lawrence Journal.

The relatively local papers of Topeka and KC are the ones missing out on clicks.

BillSelf4Prez 10 years, 7 months ago

I'm sorry but we have one of the MOST boring stadiums and uniforms in college football. I know this has no effect on the game, but if Weis is gonna turn us into a winning program we will need more seats. Lower the stadium and build the gidiron club. Get us a decent stadium and some decent uniforms and talent and i might want to play with them on NCAA Football.

hawksince51 10 years, 7 months ago

Agree about the stadium, boring and too small. But, to fill it Weis needs to turn the program around and then the money to expand will follow. Put the names back on the jerseys but I'm happy to stick with tradition as opposed to Oregon/Nike style glitz.

BillSelf4Prez 10 years, 7 months ago

Yes! Get the stripe and names back! And for our stadium it seems pretty hard on how to expand without starting over.. We would have to lower the seats for sure and i don't think too many people will be happy with closing it up and blocking the hill. Also i am not sure if we could even put an overhang anywhere but we can for sure buid up on the family zone and probaby on the studentt section if not the gridiron club which will only add 3,000+ seats.

Clarence Glasse 10 years, 7 months ago

Our uniforms are some of the classiest in college football. Our guys look good! They'd have more visual punch if they bring back the red helmet stripe. Names on jerseys again is a good idea, too. Red jerseys on occasion - nice. Revive the Mangino style uniform system!

All the other construction stuff mentioned won't turn anything around for the better and maybe will ruin what's left of the landscape beauty our stadium once had.

Got to have bigger score totals than our opponents at games' ends to turn the program into a winning one.

RCJH!

BillSelf4Prez 10 years, 7 months ago

For some reason i just really dislike our blue pants. I'm not really sure why. I'm sure that Nike will gives us some good uniforms. I'm good as long as we have the names on the back and the stripe on tthe helmet would be nice. But i don't think Nike is going to treat us like Oregon and give us a different jersey for every single game but i'm not for that. And under armour is the one that comes out with the crazy designs.

As for the stadium i would llove to at least 60,000 seats. I think they need to lower the seats and get that gidiron club built. If not the gridiorn club then build up. Add more seats on the family zone and the student section. We shouldn't close it up though because of the great view of the hill and bell tower and everything else up there.

Overall, i won't really care if about the jerseys and stadium if we are winning games!! But then we will need a bigger stadium! ROCK CHALK!

BillSelf4Prez 10 years, 7 months ago

Or go with the numbers? Those blue.bonnet bowl jerseys were sick!

BillSelf4Prez 10 years, 7 months ago

Or go with the numbers? Those blue.bonnet bowl jerseys were sick!

GraniteHawk 10 years, 7 months ago

For the first time in a long time, we agree completely. We have a unique mascot, and it seems we have tried our hardest to remove it from the football team. I would even like to see someone come up with a Jayhawk profile design that could be used. It would also help market the team. I am always amazed at hats and clothes from other schools that highlight several different designs and logos. I know we are tied to Addias, but maybe if we give them something to work with.....

bjejayhawk69 10 years, 7 months ago

put the old mean looking Jayhawk on it. I wish KU would go back to that one any way. But either way but the Jayhawk on it - it most likely the most recognized mascot in college sports.

And put the names on the back. I know a lot of players but I can't always figure it out in a split second during the game. If we had some tradition of not having them on there that would be one thing but we don't and not having them will only remind me of the 2 painful years with Gill

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 7 months ago

What is going on with the DC? Matt, can't we have a decent rumor?

JJHAWK 10 years, 7 months ago

My guess - the DC is with a program involved in the playoffs of a bowl game and they are waiting until that is completed.

But I know nothing - only guessing.

hawksince51 10 years, 7 months ago

Right about Michigan being the winningest fb program, Shelly Sue. But, Texas is 2nd, ND 3rd and Nebraska 4th. However, Weis' contribution to ND does not seem significant given his last season and demise. Just sayin'

JayDocMD 10 years, 7 months ago

Been checking throughout the day and still no Crist news - he was supposedly going to make his decision today...

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 7 months ago

You got to give credit where credit is due. The LJW has done a good job of following the worst coach ever in KU History since he was fired. I think there has been like 4-6 articles about it. I betcha Liberty hasn't even written that many about him.

I do think that LJW did a great job with CoachSearch 2011 and has done some good articles, but clearly the fans on here want some more.

dino5540 10 years, 7 months ago

I hate Gill, I hate Gill, he sucks, he's no good, he's a loser, waa waa waa waa!!!!! This is what every one of you a-holes sounded like all last Fall.

DevilHawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Which "a-holes" are you referring to?

I'm sure that you can go back to the comments that were posted between 21 September 2010 and 21 December 2010 and find the individuals that you are attempting to talk to.

Then again, the majority of posters on this section of the website (www2.kuports.com) happen to post in an intelligent manner.

dino5540 10 years, 7 months ago

No apherse. I'm not talking to you. You're on my mother-of-all-$hit lists.

gardenjay 10 years, 7 months ago

I agree, dino5540. They're still on here....

Also, Crist seems a lot shorter than what they've been telling us:

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-tough-call-between-animal-kingdom-calebs-posse

blackhawkjayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Congratulations on breaking the code, now you know our secret plan to intimidate our opponents by lying about player heights.......ooops, everybody else does that too?

JayDocMD 10 years, 7 months ago

In the last hour, D.Patterson retweeted that Dayne Crist told his ND teammates he's transferring to KU.

Bville Hawk 10 years, 7 months ago

It will be just awesome, incredible news when / if it becomes official. Here's hoping!!!

Bville Hawk 10 years, 7 months ago

Is D. Patterson Daymond Patterson the KU wide receiver who was injured early this year?

milehighhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

@bville - yes that is the same Daymond Patterson.

Hate to rain on the parade, but the original tweet came from a fictional Bo Ryan account, and everyone has been retweeting it. It's not even a rumor - it's just fabricated.

JayDocMD 10 years, 7 months ago

Afraid you might be right Milehigh - the tweet referenced TheGoldHelmets.com but can't find anything there to verify. Other sites seem to indicate he's delaying his decision until later in the week.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 7 months ago

I finally caved and got the Jayhawkslant subscription. A reporter posted yesterday that he got a text message directly from Crist saying he wouldn't be announcing until next week. Here's the quote from Rivals:

"One last thing I wanted to add. I know there are reports that Dayne Crist would be announcing his decision as early as today. He did send a text message saying he did not expect to announce anything until next week. I wanted to pass that along. I know there are a lot of rumors out there but this is coming straight from him and may help to set the record straight."

Don't know if that's good or bad news for us, but one thing I do know... it's that much more time that I have be impatiently checking and rechecking for an announcement....

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