Nebraska defeats Kansas, 20-3

  • 6 p.m., Nov. 13, 2010
  • Nebraska Memorial Stadium, Lincoln, NE

Sunday, November 14, 2010

Going nowhere: Kansas offense sputters

Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David stops Kansas running back James Sims during the third quarter, Saturday, Nov. 13, 2010 at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.

Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David stops Kansas running back James Sims during the third quarter, Saturday, Nov. 13, 2010 at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.


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Press Conferences & Post-Game Interviews

KU coach Turner Gill

Kansas coach Turner Gill talks to reporters following the Jayhawks' 20-3 loss to Nebraska on Nov. 13, 2010.

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— In the press box at Nebraska University’s Memorial Stadium, there’s a poster from 1983 that features Kansas University coach Turner Gill in his Nebraska gear and the headline “The Scoring Explosion.”

Watching from the opposite sideline for the first time in his life Saturday, Gill’s Jayhawks were anything but explosive during a 20-3 loss to their coach’s alma mater.

Offensively, this game was historically bad. In 47 plays from scrimmage, Kansas managed just 87 yards, marking its lowest total since tallying 67 in a loss to Texas in 2001. What’s more, the five first downs were the fewest in a game since KU moved the chains just four times against Cincinnati in 1997. In his third start at quarterback, junior Quinn Mecham was just 3-of-13 for 15 yards and one interception.

“It’s not just a Quinn thing,” Gill said. “I think it’s our whole offense. Our offensive line, they gotta do better. Our running backs, our receivers, everybody’s gotta play better. Some of it’s the quarterback, and some of it was just Nebraska. They’re a good football team, and they’re very good on the defensive side of the ball.”

So, too, was Kansas (3-7 overall, 1-5 in Big 12), which held the Cornhuskers’ high-powered attack to its third-lowest point total this season.

If this would’ve been a scrimmage between the two defenses, KU might have come away with a victory. Instead, both offenses took the field, too, and that greatly benefited Nebraska.

“I feel like we let the defense down a little bit,” KU sophomore receiver Bradley McDougald said.

Added red-shirt freshman Tyler Patmon, who recorded an interception for the second straight game: “I’m proud of my defense. But at the end of the day, we didn’t get the win, so it means nothing. We played good, but not good enough.”

The Kansas defense was up to the task early. After the offense stalled in Nebraska territory on the game’s opening drive, KU forced the Huskers into a three-and-out.

Two possessions later, the defense did it again.

In fact, Nebraska (9-1, 5-1) didn’t gain a first down until the 3:24 mark of the first quarter. Seven plays later, NU took the lead when running back Rex Burkhead raced in from four yards out with 33 seconds to play in the first.

While KU’s offense continued to struggle — Mecham sacks halted KU’s first four drives, and Kansas converted just two of 13 third downs — the Cornhuskers were content to pound away. With 3:05 to play in the first half, NU pushed its lead to 14-0 with a nine-play, 75-yard drive that was capped by a highlight-reel, 20-yard TD run from Roy Helu Jr. The drive featured a crucial third-down conversion pass from Taylor Martinez to Niles Paul, something the Jayhawks struggled with all night.

Asked why NU had so much success on third down (9 of 17), Patmon said it was just a matter of the guys in red making more plays.

“We have to get off the field and give our offense better field position,” Patmon said.

The second half was an even better indication of how well KU’s defense played. Despite being outgained 204-40 in total yards, KU gave up just six points. Remember, this is the same defense that surrendered 55 points to Baylor, 59 to Kansas State and 45 to Texas A&M; in consecutive games earlier this season.

A well timed blitz on a third-down play inside KU territory early in the fourth kept KU’s hopes alive. The Jayhawks also forced three fumbles (Jake Laptad and Patrick Dorsey both were credited) and recovered one (Steven Johnson). In addition to Patmon’s interception, KU nearly had two others.

“They did a great job tonight,” McDougald said. When you’re supposed to get blown out and you hold ’em to 20 points, I’d say the defense did a great job.”

The Kansas offense, however, scored just three points and never truly threatened. Despite that fact, Gill was somewhat upbeat about his team’s effort.

“I’m proud of our football team,” he said. “Our guys played well, played tough and played hard throughout the football game.”


HawkfromHays 11 years, 10 months ago

Throw the frickin ball downfield! We have nothing to lose!!!!

Dirk Medema 11 years, 10 months ago

Like interceptions or were you referring to yardage on sacks?

Ashwin Rao 11 years, 10 months ago

Bring back "street ball". As soon as we go back to the playbook we do badly!

Marc Frey 11 years, 10 months ago

There is a reason Keegan predicted a 4-10 season. And that was probably based on a victory over ND State. Simply put, if we could throw the ball we would. I do believe that HCTG knows what to do. There was a reason Meachem was the third string QB and a reason why the other two QBs had to fight it out for #1. KU was not going to be a good team this year. But, as we saw over the last two weeks, thay can beat the #11 team in the Big 12, and keep NU from scoring 50 points when their starting QB is coming off an injury.

Bottom line: Lack of talent.

panalytic 11 years, 10 months ago

Seems like we played well and competed hard against a highly ranked team at their stadium. We played a lot better than most people expected. The team has improved.

jhox 11 years, 10 months ago

At least we didn't get embarrassed, thanks to the defense. I really like Torbush. The best teams are built on solid defense, and we have some good young players on that side of the ball. They've come a long way since the Baylor and KSU games. They're bringing in a lot of new offensive linemen next year and speedy running backs. I believe the future could be pretty bright if we give Gill a chance to recruit better athletes. The move of Opurum (I probably speed it wrong) is looking pretty good right now. We finally have a pass rushing lineman.

How about NU's trying to add a touchdown in the final seconds last night? I'm glad to see they're leaving the Big 12 with the same strong sense of sportsmanship they had under Osborne (like the time classless Tom went for 2 ahead 33-0 going into half time of a game in Lawrence.) I only heard last nights game on the radio, but I believe the NU fans actually booed the NU coaching staff over that lack of class at the end of the game last night. At least their fans showed some class in letting the coaching staff know that the passing plays and the late time out call were not appreciated. No wonder Osborne picked Polini over Gill a few years back. He knew Gill had too much class to ever try to pull something like that, and "Run it up Tom" wouldn't like someone coaching his team who was unwilling to run up the score late on an already beaten team.

Bob Zielinski 11 years, 10 months ago

Do you have some reasoning behind your statement? I think you are way off base on this one.

Rick Arnoldy 11 years, 10 months ago

Did you miss the post about going for two when up 33-0? That's typical Osborne.

Bob Zielinski 11 years, 10 months ago

That was some quality whining about Tom Osborne running up scores. A team can only travel with so many players to road games. At home, Nebraska would have in their 2nd, 3rd and 4th team players and they would consistently be running the ball. The other team was always afforded the chance to actually stop Nebraska if they desired.

Taking shots at Tom Osborne comes off very petty and reflects a childish understanding of college football.

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Why do you feel the need to be on our site. This is our place to discuss, whine, bitch and moan and do it in the fashion we want. There is no need whatsoever for you to be here. Please play on your own website.

Bob Zielinski 11 years, 10 months ago

I am a Jayhawk. I graduated from KU. Go ahead and discuss, bitch, whine, moan, etc. to your heart's content. I'm just pointing out that making those comments about Tom Osborne make you sound petty and like you can't handle losing very well. If destroying KU on the football field makes Tom Osborne a bad guy then there are a number of other coaches, current and retired, who are also bad guys in your book.

Osborne was probably 25-0 against KU in his career. Many of those years Nebraska was a dominant team and KU was a very bad team. Games are going to get out of hand most years when those teams play. Is Nebraska supposed to just kneel on the ball once they get up 35 points on KU? Isn't that even more insulting? Guys want to compete, T.O. was getting his backups time, Nebraska probably never passed more than 12 times a game. Is there some other option for NU to do other than run the football or punt on 1st down?

I'm sorry you are taking this so harshly but it is something you are going to have to work through and then move on.

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

I consider myself "told". Sorry for mistaking you for a NU fan.

jhox 11 years, 10 months ago

I was at one of those games where he supposedly was playing his second team. At the end of the game he had the second team running back in the game, and the second team receivers, and maybe the second team QB (ironically, it was Turner Gill who was the starter on that team, if I recall correctly.) It was something like 69 to 7 at the time. He had his starting offensive line in including Dave Remington and Dean Steinkuhler and they were opening holes big enough to drive Mack trucks through. A high school running back could have ripped off 10 or 15 yards a run with those guys blocking for him. As for the receivers, that team didn't pass any anyway. Bottom line, offensive line was the strength of that team and he had the starting offensive line in at the conclusion of the game. Anothe sign of real class.

I have great respect for Osborne's coaching, and how he maintained a very high level of success all of those years, but I have zero respect for his sense of sportsmanship. He had absolutely no sense of that. It's funny that Barry Switzer was always viewed as the rogue coach, while Osborne was seen as the distinguished coach, but Switzer was the much better sportsman, hands down.

Bob Zielinski 11 years, 10 months ago

I am sorry to do this to you but you are remembering the game you speak of with Turner Gill still playing late in the game incorrectly.

Here is what happened in the 2nd half:

Rozier had 285 yards on the ground (230 at the half). So, Osborne only got Rozier enough touches to gain 55 yards in the 2nd half (keep in mind it was Rozier's final game at home for his career). Rozier did not score in the 2nd half.

Nebraska scored 6 points in the 3rd quarter off of a punt return.

Nebraska scored 20 points in the 4th quarter. A 9 yard TD run by Craig Sundberg who was the back up QB. A punt return for a TD. Paul Miles, on his only carry of the game, ran in a 78 yard TD.

So 26 points were scored in the 2nd half. Two TD's on punt returns. A TD by the backup QB and another TD by Paul Miles who was used infrequently all season and was a 5'9 sophomore.

You guys who want to complain about Tom Osborne running up the score need to realize what you are talking about.

Lance Cheney 11 years, 10 months ago

"A team can only travel with so many players to road games. At home, Nebraska would have in their 2nd, 3rd and 4th team players and they would consistently be running the ball"

I'm not sure what you're talking about, because the 2nd and 3rd string players also get to travel to away games. It's not just the 22 starters that get to go on the road.

Bob Zielinski 11 years, 10 months ago

Really? Teams don't load up their starters on two vans and play road games?

By the time you take 65 players to a road game and account for the back up kicker, punter, 3rd string QB, back up receivers which only play if a starter is injured, multiple defensive backs and linebackers for different defensive packages, long snapper, etc. you don't have anywhere close to 3-deep at each position.

You are only going to have so many linemen on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. If they are blowing up the defense and creating holes and NU is trying to run the ball and is playing their 2nd and 3rd team running backs I don't know what else you can ask them to do.

Turner Gill must have gotten to some of you. You are going soft and not making much sense.

Jim Pendleton 11 years, 10 months ago

jhox - I made this exact comment earlier in the week about Osborne going for two in that game. It was bush league then, and things haven't changed in 30 years. They apparently thought they would get some style points for the BCS this week. Sorry Bo/Tom's puppet, it didn't work.

bobsarobot - You are way off base. I think everyone had the desire to stop Nebraska all those years when TO was coach, but no one was good enough. 99 times out of 100, there was no need for them to pull that crap, but TO would always do it anyway. Fact is, that game he went for two was a road game and the starters were still in, and we hadn't scored that many points on them the past several years combined, so get real, he did what he always did - run it up against a much inferior opponent just to make himself look good.

There isn't any point for teams like them to run up scores, or give the appearance of doing so late in a game like yesterday. There is no longer a margin of victory component in the BCS, so why bother. They got the ball back with three minutes left in the game, one first down (which they got) would be sufficient to keep us from getting the ball back, and run out the clock by taking a couple knees. Heck, their own crowd didn't like what they were doing.

They will get theirs in the Big 10/11/12, whatever they are. Do they really think the quality programs in that league will roll over for them? There will be people in that program/fan base wishing they were back in the Big 12 in a few years, or less. Rock Chalk!!

RossChalk 11 years, 10 months ago

Are you serious jhox? Our D has been getting torched all season. Granted, I was happy with the effort on Sat. night - but look at the whole season - not too good.

KU_FanSince75 11 years, 10 months ago

Man, if we could have last year's offense with this year's defense, that would be interesting. Nice job defense. Keep working hard.

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 10 months ago

In 1997 we had 4 first downs against cincy. People used phrase like "give him time" "his players" "two or three years" and the coached rewarded us with 60some yards of offense 5 years later. . . See where I'm headed with this?!?!?!?!?

Andy Tweedy 11 years, 10 months ago

No. Are you comparing Terry Allen's teams to some of Magino's early teams? People said give him time, too, and that worked out alright.

kupopp 11 years, 10 months ago

There are only two times that "Dr. Tom" would even consider running up the score: when they were at home and when they were on the road.

notigers4me 11 years, 10 months ago

The O-line issue started two years ago the # 1 quarterback in KU history with two NFL type receivers had trouble scoring. Now take the fact that we don't even have those guys around anymore you can pin this years losses onto Mangino's butt. Gill is playing with the cards given to him and it's a pretty lousy hand. We need to give Gill some time to really see if he is a decent coach or not. I think he is but who can really tell with this team. The old addage "Wait till next year" is going to have to apply to Kansas, even them it may take at least two years for Kansas to field a winning team. Let's only hope that Gill is really up to the challenge.

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 10 months ago

Yeah we can get off that excuse too. Todd got cut by a cfl team and his NFL receivers are on scout teams (I know km injury). So were those guys really skilled or just really well coached?

kureignman 11 years, 10 months ago

It's not uncommon for players drafted in the 6th round to play on the practice squad for a year or two and eventually make a team. Much like it is not uncommon for a coach that only gets 3 wins his first year to have success later on. I was going to mention Mangino as an example, but since you know enough about him to be a family member, then you already know his win total from his first year.

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 10 months ago

Gill has the worst record of all first year division coaches this season.

kureignman 11 years, 10 months ago

Not sure what you mean by division. Buffalo only has 2 wins and they have a new coach. I'm pretty sure Akron has a new coach and they are winless. Tuberville is the only other new coach in our conference and he took over a team that had 9 wins last year and only has 5 right now. Even if TT wins 2 more that would leave them with 2 less wins than the previous year. Very similar situation to KU with Mangino only having 5 wins last year.

Jack Brooks 11 years, 10 months ago

Agree with notigers. For the last 2 years our "experienced" O-line has been projected to be a strength but has been a liability. They play soft. They lack pride in themselves and their teammates. Hopefully Gill's O-line recruits come in and take over soon. These nancies we have up front now don't deserve to wear the uniform.

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

Nebraska has more class then any KU fan, team or graduate will EVER have!!! The only good thing in KU is Gill, only because he was raised by Dr. Tom!!

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

I did. Hope your mom made it home ok!!

ahpersecoachingexperience 11 years, 10 months ago

he worked so hard to keep his last tooth. and to lose it that way. . .sad

stuck88 11 years, 10 months ago

Yeah its really classy to call timeout with 10 seconds left in the game up by 17. Thats real classy! Dont you have anything better to shoving a corn pipe up your ass?!?

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Define "class" and how you have it and we don't.

jhox 11 years, 10 months ago

I couldn't agree more, Notigers4me. I believe we need to give the guy at least 3 seasons before we can begin to judge him as a coach. My early complaint was that his team wasn't playing hard for him. That seems to have been corrected in recent weeks. This is a work in progress.

Bee Bee 11 years, 10 months ago

I could get 10 guys off my block to join me and we could produce more offense than KU! 86 yards???? Really??? What a joke!

Benjamin Piehler 11 years, 10 months ago

i gotta wonder why you guys were unable to score more than south dakota against us. if you didnt notice, you dropped in the rankings after your performance at home yesterday.

jhox 11 years, 10 months ago

Even the writer for the Lincoln newspaper found it curious that the Bugeaters were trying to pass as the clock ran down...he stopped short of calling it classless, I'm sure because he needs to maintain access to the locker room, but here's the excerpt from that article:

...(the offense) "" was frustrating enough that the Huskers were still throwing the football in the final minute, even calling a timeout with 10 seconds left before taking a knee.

What was that about?

"We always try to score," Bo said.

And, no, he said he didn't care about any BCS style points or anything like that."

Like I said before, classless. The one and only defense he could use for this sort of thing would be to contend he did it for BCS style points, and he denied doing it for that reason.

I wish Mangino hadn't called off the dogs in 2007 when we could have hung 100 on them. We clearly quit trying to score in the final quarter, or it very easily could have been 100. I remember NU fans up in arms over that game, and a Nebraska writer coming to KU's defense, saying if Mangino would have really wanted to run up the score, it would have been a lot worse than it was.

You know last night's actions (passing and calling the timeout) had to be classless when their own fans booed the decision.

troutsee 11 years, 10 months ago

Overall, I was encouraged by our play. The defense looked the best it has all year and seemed to be working together and staying within their rush lanes. The offense was pretty vanilla but still made no major blunders and received only one penalty that I can recall. I thought we would be able to run the ball against them like ISU and Texas did. That was a disappointment, but overall we played like a team and looked like a team and that was very encouraging. Consider also that it was a hostile environment. I think the team is improving. We'll see this week when we will face an entirely different style of offense, one like Baylor, which gave us a lot of trouble.

I thought Opurum looked very good last night in his new position and that our linebackers were flowing to the ball well. And this Patman kid, looks like a player, maybe the next Talib.

Mark Lindrud 11 years, 10 months ago

When you start a program with someone else's players it can take time to put the right ingredients to put the program on track. Yes, we have been beaten like a rag doll a few teams and that has left a bad taste in our mouths.

We have had some ups such as upsetting then ranked Georgia Tech and yes they may not look that good now, but it was still a great feeling. We also had the amazing comeback against Colorado. We can say CU stinks and they collapsed against us, but it was an amazing feeling once again.

We have watched this team grow and show signs of improvement in some areas so we can say that there are things to look forward to. Could we be a bowl team next year? Too early to tell because we need to improve in other areas still. Gill is learning about his players and realizing what he has. If you look at his recruiting he has been addressing areas of concern so he is no fool. We can bag on him all we want at the moment, but slowly but surely he is showing he knows what he is doing so we need to be patient this year.

I maybe critical at times of the team like the rest of us because I want to win. I for one am going to support him until he truly gives me a reason otherwise and this year I will watch with the intention of seeing a team grow and get better even if it does not show in the win column.

huxley 11 years, 10 months ago

I was at the game yesterday as a life-long Nebraska fan. KU played tough, and smart. I thought my "favorite" team in the Texas League was going to be either Mizzou or Oklahoma, but after seeing that, and knowing Mangino left a pretty bare cupboard for Turner, I think I'll go with KU. I've read a couple of "experts" here and elsewhere that gave the coaching in this game a "B" or "B-". They're idiots. Stick with Turner. He'll have "us" walking in the tall grass with the big dogs in no time.

lama 11 years, 10 months ago

The teams played for the 105th straight year. The nation's longest continuous series ends with Nebraska heading to the Big Ten next year, and Pelini was anything but sentimental about it.

"I don't care," the third-year coach said. "It's part of the deal. We're moving on. I haven't been around the series very long, so it doesn't bother me much."

You stay classy, Bo.

Brian Leiker 11 years, 10 months ago

This defense will be embarrassed next week, just like everyone else that plays OSU. NU is a run oriented offense and it plays into Torbush and our defense's strengths. Torbush is awful against the spread and is why he was canned at aTm. 800 yards is the over under on next weekend's game.

huxley 11 years, 10 months ago

So, Bo is classless,like Osborne, Devaney and every other NU coach going back to D.X. Bible. OK. Bo went from nothin' to a top ten team in his third year. Enough said. Stick with Turner and you might see the same thing.

Michael Lindsey 11 years, 10 months ago

NU fans classy? Don't be so stupid. They were booing the last second time-out because they were in freeezing cold weather and wanted the game to end so they could go home.

BIGREDTIME 11 years, 10 months ago

Ku played pretty well especially the defensive line. But if Martinez was hundred percent and his throws were crisper that could have been very ugly

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

"If" ? Does NU not have a website? I guess "if" you had one you wouldn't be on ours.

100 11 years, 10 months ago

What a great memory we will always have regarding our last two snaps against Nebraska....

Leading 20-3 with 30 seconds to go & a kneel down away from running out the clock, with NU's players' bodies needing to be protected for a BCS run, Bo Pelini decides to throw not one but two deep balls against the already defeated Jayhawks.

First his QB got drilled in the backfield. Then, throwing again, the surprised KU defense viciously but cleanly tackles NU's receiver. Then with 5 seconds left he calls timeout. After talking about it for 30 seconds on the sideline, Bo decided to kneel down because he wouldn't want to be seen as classless.

What could have possibly been the reason for all this?

Perhaps because the final score of the 2nd half was:

NU 6 KU 3

.... Did Bo have a bet in Vegas? Did their QB's dad have a bet in Vegas & was going against coach's orders?

Unfortunately we lost, but we can always remember the spirit of their fans as NU's team walked off the field, getting booed by their own fans.

For what it's hard to know.

Maybe all 85,000 of them had money on the 2nd half in Vegas. Judging from the ESPN boards during the game, the over-under & how much they "put down" is about all they talked about.

Was Bo running desperation plays with a 17 point lead to win the 2nd half over-under in Vegas for his 85,000 followers?

Is that why he got booed leaving the Stadium last night?

And is that why Nebraska's fans left early? (pretty much unheard of no matter the score in Lincoln)

What the he'll was Bo doing?

jhox 11 years, 10 months ago

I believe the booing started when NU took the timeout after throwing the long pass. I believe they were booing their coach for trying to run up the score. Not booing the fact that they didn't score enough. I think they respect Gill and didn't like seeing Bo be such an Ass#hole to a fellow Husker alum.

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

Has any coaches from KU ever ran up a score??????

dahawk40 11 years, 10 months ago

Martinez and Watson were the ones that made that call. Bo called the timeout because he wanted to run out the clock instead. You have to remember, Bo and Turner are great friends and have been on the same coaching staffs.

BIGREDTIME 11 years, 10 months ago

because the state of kansas doesnt have farmers either. but that was really clever

Bob Zielinski 11 years, 10 months ago

Two plays stick out in the game in terms of the KU players 'playing hard'. Nebraska was allowed to convert a 3rd and 25. Niles Paul makes the catch over the middle by jumping up and snagging the ball out of the air. KU's player barely tapped him with his forearms. A real hit would have given Paul the incentive to drop that pass. Paul drops balls left and right game in and game out.

As Helu was tightroping the sideline about to score a TD, a KU player pushed him into the endzone. He could have easily pushed him out of bounds or even tried to tackle Helu but instead he shoved Helu in for a TD.

Just sloppy plays. Plays where it sure didn't look like KU was 'playing hard'.

Also, who cares if Nebraska was passing with 30 seconds left in the game? It is part of football and Nebraska does have a tough game against Texas A&M next Saturday to prepare for with a QB who missed last week and was not exactly crisp in the passing game against KU.

100 11 years, 10 months ago

This is how you end a series against a team you've played 105 years straight?

By airing it out, not once, but twice?

You do realize Gill will be pulling NU's Texas offensive recruits away for years to come don't you?

Why give him further reason to?

Is it because Bo was mad that he's losing to Gill in head to head recruiting?

Head to Head recruiting:

Bo - 0 Gill - 2

It's only gonna get worse for your recruiting when your players won't be able to play in front of their Texas families a couple times a year.

Is that why Bo did it?

Is he mad because there's a picture of Kansas' head coach in the Nebraska press box & no picture of himself?

BIGREDTIME 11 years, 10 months ago

go to rivals and look at our recruting class. we have this guy thats a 5-star recruit something u guys never get

100 11 years, 10 months ago

You are right there. You have 5 star recruits, obviously your class is better than ours next year.

We'll be getting them soon enough with Turner's Texas connections.

Back to the original point:

Do you think Bo has something against TG? Why the bad spirit at the end?

Is it because TG has beaten Bo head to head in recruiting? I know they weren't five stars, but I wonder with a competitive guy like Bo if he's still ticked off what he sees in his future against TG recruiting.

Bottom line, he should have shown some class; TG as you know is not a mean spirited person, but there was no reason to conduct business that way in the last 30 seconds.

If anything I think that probably gets TG more fired up to snag recruits that wouldve played for NU during Big 12 times.

Just a bad overall move by Bo last night. Twice. And almost three times in 30 seconds.

The boos told me everything I need to know; many of us respected your program under Tom. Very hard to respect under Bo, especially after that ending to our 117 year friendly battle on the gridiron (yes there was a time where we even beat you guys 5 straight!)

huxley 11 years, 10 months ago

I've changed my mind. I like Turner, think he's a great coach, and heck, my spouse is from Hays. But, given the crankiness here I'd like to be in better company. In the Texas League, I think I'll be rooting for Boomer Sooner (at least until Bevo decides to fold it in 2015). Really a better class of fans.

Benjamin Piehler 11 years, 10 months ago

we'll forever mourn the loss of you and your husbands fan-dom.

huxley 11 years, 10 months ago

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rockemchalkemrobots 11 years, 10 months ago

I saw someone call him (or her) a towel once. It was not pretty. Seriously, though, no one cares about your support.

You forgot to criticize the lack of capitalization in the post. I bet you are kicking yourself. Grammar/spelling corrections are awesome, right? Am I right?

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

My kids have teacher that are from KU, KSU and MU. KU teachers have less on the ball then those who have degrees from KSU and MU. KU educations bites. Rock Chaulk JH--WTF>>>

kupopp 11 years, 10 months ago

Oh, I'm so upset. You hurt my little feelings, you big bad meany.

Nebraska--- Where even the corn gets bored.

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

Corn, grass, beans.....are plants. They have no ability to get bored. Oh, earth humor?

kupopp 11 years, 10 months ago

Oops, thank you for demonstrating your lake of education.

If your mommy lets you, Google "corn borer".

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Let me take a stab at this, but I'm guessing you're parents were closely related prior to marriage.

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

"your" not "you're". I bet you didn't catch that did you Likilroybob?

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

Yes! Good night Grandpa, see ya next at Thanksgiving dinner. Don't forget your teeth this time!

Benjamin Piehler 11 years, 10 months ago

several studies would show the contrary. actually Nebraska is exactly one position BEHIND KU in the USA today Tier 1 rankings. Thank you for playing, try again.

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

You're absolutely correct, hawkinator, and it's not just the USA Today report either. Face it, the Nebraska fans have drank the kool-aid and have convinced themselves that they're something they're not. Denial is a wonderful alibi.

BIGREDTIME 11 years, 10 months ago

lol because USA today is the final authority. these KU fans are so damn bitter

gchawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Also ranked by ARWU and U S News and World Report. You have a decent University, but it is not ranked as high as KU in academics.

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

Sorry, I know little about Nebraska's education system. I said that the Teachers that come out KSU and MU are better then those that get a teaching degree from KU/PU.

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

I said that KSU and MU had students that made better teachers then KU students. The KU Dept., of ED is a joke!

Lance Cheney 11 years, 10 months ago

I'm guessing the MU teachers try to lure the kids back to their minivans with promises of candy and puppies.

babyjay1 11 years, 10 months ago

Ok, I am going to miss the ridiculous posts from husker fans who are obviously such intelligent life forms that they cannot find their own message boards. And Likilroy is such as intelligent man that he can accurately judge the quality of his children's teachers, or not.... I'm sure that you have hurt the feelings of all KU fans :( Those of us that are actually in the education field might actually know more about this topic than you do but of course, you and the rest of your little husker group are just mad because we actually competed, even with NO offense on our part - you still couldn't cover the spread and really, didn't play all that well. Enjoy the Big 10 - adios!!!!

LiKilroy 11 years, 10 months ago

KU fans have no feelings to hurt. They have no brainstem.

actorman 11 years, 10 months ago

For all of you NU trolls who keep defending Osborne, explain to me why NU was ahead of KU 33-0 late in the second quarter in Lawrence one year and he went for two. His explanation afterwards was something ridiculous like KU had an explosive offense and was always capable of coming back. Of course NU was its usual 45 or 50-point favorite in that game.

And that doesn't even get into all the defending of players like Lawrence Phillips, Christian Peters, etc., etc. Yep, that Tom Osborne was one helluva classy guy ...

Go Huskers ... and don't let the Big XII door hit your sorry a**es on the way out.

OneManJury 11 years, 10 months ago

to HawkFromHays"Throw the frickin ball downfield! We have nothing to lose!!!!" Dennard and Amukamara, NU's corners, are probably the best cornerbacks in college football. It is generally a very bad idea to throw against either of those two. That's why they call them "lockdown corners" and why Amukamara is Mel Kiper's #3 NFL draft pick for this year's class. Find a different reason to criticize the QB. Short passes and a run game are a team's best chance to beat NU. Passing downfield is a high-percentage risk for a turnover. The interception Dennard got against KU was well-thrown and should have been a completion, but Dennard is an exceptional cornerback.

Andy Tweedy 11 years, 10 months ago

Absolutely, both are projected first round picks! There would have been a lot to lose...

100 11 years, 10 months ago

Great point one man jury.

Hard to be critical of anything KU did.

We certainly are playing some solid ball.

The only thing I would have liked to see more of, since they were keying on our runs & receivers, was play actions over the middle to Biere, away from the cornerbacks; their defensive scheme was only weak in the in between spots & only for a brief moment, so we indeed had our work cut out.

5 yard play action passes to big thick tight ends while sucking in their line & linebackers might have worked.

Andy Tweedy 11 years, 10 months ago

Off the topic of NU, but on the topic of football. Anybody hear if Bourbon is still a RB? One thing we most certainly will have next year is an abundance of running backs, with Sims, Sands, Bourbon, Smith and Miller. I know it's necessary to have a lot of backs, but these guys are all young as well. Just curious if anybody has heard anything.

100 11 years, 10 months ago

NU fans: thanks for the 117 years.

Curious why the NU fans booed as the teams & coaches walked off the field?

grandpa 11 years, 10 months ago

I was more impressed with our defense than in any other game this year. We made some mistakes but there was some good tackline. Our defensive backs are still poor but I was impressed with #30 and #33. They played with some energy and looked sharp. I really do not know what to say about all three of our quarterbacks. They struggle and all three of them would be sitting on the bench if playing for other teams. We had some poor play calling by the coaches. Our quarterback had a very poor night with his passing as he just does not have the arm. Nebraska did a good job covering our receivers abut our QB kept the ball too long . When he finds the receivers covered, he tucks the ball for a run and never looks up again ato try and find an open receiver. He does this time and time again and then maybe makes 3 yards on his run. 87yds offense is very poor. We should have been throwing the ball a lot more.

100 11 years, 10 months ago

Agree Grandpa.... I think the play action was open.

Might have needed to go shotgun-play action against a defense as stout as NU (they studied our tapes they knew we were running the ball well, perfect time for quick hitting play action passes across the middle).

Other than that, I must say we are improving & all due credit to NU's defense.

KSseahawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Why doesn't TG make those adjustments - in game? I've heard people asking for the option, 100 suggests going shotgun, using play-action, going back to schoolyard ball.

NU would have been the perfect opponent against which to introduce something new...but instead we were treated to the same brand of garbage we've been exposed to all year (offensively). Sure credit the Blackshirts, but 4 first downs and 1 by way of penalty is pathetic.

Perhaps the players are improving, but please explain how TG and CL are doing anything to get this offense excited? The status quo ain't working and we all know what defines insanity.

Layne Pierce 11 years, 10 months ago

Maybe Bo called the timeout to tell Martinez not to throw into the end zone. Fact is, Bo is not happy that the Nebraska fans are still crazy about TG.

Biggest thing in the game was our offensive line. They stink. Tom Brady couldn't have passed behind our line. We have the worst line I have seen. If we are going to improve every lineman has to go back under the gun. Improve or move.

100 11 years, 10 months ago

Good points. Controlling the line of scrimmage is everything in college football.

We didn't do it Saturday on Offense.

For the future however, I really get the feeling that TG knows that up & down. I think the playcalling we saw Saturday that didn't work reflects the style that will be our future; Run opposing defenses down with big lines & great speed.

Still pretty incredible that we were in the game pretty much all 4 quarters even without a line; huge props to the D.

100 11 years, 10 months ago

FYi Nebraska, in the hunt for a top notch BCS game, threw two bombs with a 17 point lead and under 30 seconds to go, nearly injuring two of their key players. Pretty much unheard of.

If you want proof, ask any Nebraska fan who stayed for the whole game; they booed as the players & coaches walked off the field.

100 11 years, 10 months ago


Or maybe Bo is PO'ed because the head coach of Kansas is glorified in the Nebraska press box to go with no picture of Bo.

Really get the feeling it was personal. How did Bo feel about the pregame video glorification of Gill? (that was classy by the way).

In interviews, has Bo ever spoken about Gill? Just trying to figure this out because honestly I've never seen such a ridiculous coaching move in my life...

What if with 30 seconds left, KU intercepts that first pass, runs it back to the house, kicks an onside kick, scores again & converts the 2 point conversion?

Well, you're left with a 2 point game & 10 seconds left. What if KU successfully gets the onside kick again with 7 seconds left on the clock & 2 points down with a chance to win it at the gun, then would you question Bo's intentions?

dahawk40 11 years, 10 months ago

What's up with all this talk about Nebraska being a classless program? I was at the game last night decked out in Jayhawk blue and I can't even count the number of people that came up to me and wished KU a good game and thanked me for visiting. Also, not a single fan booed when KU took the field last night. That's a lot more than our student section can boast. Nebraska is a class act and KU should be happy that Turner was mentored by such a great coach (Dr. Tom)

jhox 11 years, 10 months ago

My problem was not with the NU fans. They understand and appreciate the game. My problem is with classless coaches who try to throw bombs up 2+ TD's with 17 seconds left on the clock, then call time out with 10 seconds to try to add another score. To the fan's credit they booed, and I'm sure that's why Bo backed off and didn't pass on the last play. Had they remained silent, you can bet Bo would have aired it out on the last play too.

Coaches simply don't do what he tried to do with a big lead late in the game, just like coaches don't go for 2 up 33 to zip at the end of the first half, as Osborne once did to us.

dahawk40 11 years, 10 months ago

That wasn't Bo making that call..that was Tom Watson, the offensive coordinator. Bo called a timeout and chewed out Watson because he did not want to run up the score on Turner (a good friend from their coaching days at Nebraska).

OneManJury 11 years, 10 months ago

I replayed the final minute of the game. I have no problem with a pass from the 50 yard line that brought the ball to the 32 with almost one minute to go. Shawn Watson calls the offensive plays for NU, not Bo, and offense was on Kansas' side of the field with almost 1 minute left and Kansas still had two timeouts. After that pass, with a first down in hand and about 32 seconds on the clock, I expected Martinez to handoff or take a knee. He didn't. He attempted a pass to the 10 yard line--that was a bad call by Watson. Martinez then went back into a formation and was obviously in "I want to score now" mode. Bo called the timeout to stop him from scoring and tell him to take a knee. There was no malice in that last timeout; Bo saw that Martinez was trying to score and he stopped him. The NU fans got pissed because they thought someone was calling a timeout to run up the score; thankfully, that did not happen.

KSseahawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Conference season scoreboard: 252-95 (35 points scored in 11 minutes of 1 game...that's nearly 37% of the entire scoring output in 6 games). That's an average of 42-16 per game.

Take that anamoly out of the equation and you get 252 - 60 for an average score of 42-10. But that wouldn't be fair since they did demonstrate what they're capable of.

True the margin has been smaller in the recent games (and we get to throw in an unlikely win), but look for that margin to grow against OSU.

1.9 yards per play 3 total points 1.2 yards per pass play - isn't that tough to do?

Defense played well, but the offense couldn't do anything to sustain a drive to get the defense usual. Progress???...if you believe in moral victories and see only what you want to see. Look at the whole package and they're back on TV...interesting they've played their poorest when the cameras are rolling.

All that said...Turner and the team need to learn from the KSU game, where they were wildly underprepared and less than exuberant, and get up for the MU game like it's our BCS game. How awesome would it be to say that we beat a quality MU team on a neutral field, during a miserable year. They could forget the disaster this year has been and actually have something positive to build on next year.

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