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Tuesday, May 4, 2010

Keegan

Scandal quiet…for now

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All’s quiet on the multiple investigations front in terms of the Kansas University ticket scandal. So quiet that if you listen closely you might be able to hear a sweat bead drop.

This much did make its way to my keyboard, delivered courtesy of a guy we’ll just call Nellie the Whisper: The feds have started to ask those on both ends of ticket transactions whether they engaged in any trade-out activity. Hypothetical example: You put a new roof on my house without charging me and I’ll move you up the ladder on the Williams Fund points list, enabling you to bypass donors who give more than you do.

Nellie the Whisper didn’t tell me that sort of stuff definitely had been going on, but he did say the feds are looking into it. And when the feds ask questions they tend to get honest answers. Those answering the questions know if they don’t sing, sing, they could be headed to the equivalent of Sing Sing, as in stir, slammer, big house, pen, up the river, hoosegow, clink, iron bar motel, cooler, can, pokey, tank, can’t you tell I watched a lot of Dragnet and heard a lot of Joe Friday lectures in my youth? The mere threat of all those words pours truth serum down the throats of born liars.

Now, if someone traded tickets from his or her personal stock in exchange for services, then that’s a no harm, no foul. But let’s say it didn’t happen that way. Let’s say someone received significant value in the way of a trade-out in exchange for either moving a donor up the list or just switching envelopes to give the less deserving donor the better seats. And let’s say that someone didn’t report that on his or her income taxes. Well, in the event something like that did happen, that someone would be guilty of defrauding the government and defrauding his or her employer by using something of value for the benefit of the individual instead of the university.

It’s comforting to know those questions are being asked because that’s a sign of the thoroughness of the probe. The more in-depth the investigation, the more you know you can trust those standing at the end of the seven-figures scandal.

This is not an ideal time for KU athletic director Lew Perkins to pull daggers out of his back and there is no other way for Perkins to look at those working under him turning their access to tickets into their own little profit centers.

With the Big 12 a threat to be raided as big-time college athletics appear headed the way of super conferences, Perkins is too busy to stop and lick his wounds over the embarrassing scandal. You can bet he’s pro-actively looking at any and all possibilities to ensure Kansas doesn’t get left out of the power-conference realignment.

If he hasn’t already, expect Perkins to look into seeing whether Kansas could qualify as a fit in the Big Ten, a move that at first blush would infuriate many of the boosters with the deepest pockets. Longer road trips to cooler climates tends to make blue blood boil. Plus, the plodding style of basketball doesn’t float the boats of Kansas fans. Still, Perkins must make sure Kansas remains in a powerhouse conference. Next to tradition and a great coach, nothing aids recruiting and finances like a loaded conference, not even snazzy facilities.

Comments

lv_jhwk 12 years, 7 months ago

Once again had to read three-fourths of the article to get to anything truly pertinent. Not to say that the scandal isn't, but all Keegs is offering in the majority of the reading is innuendo and conjecture. It's the sort of stuff that's easy to dismiss if nothing comes of it, but just as convenient to point to in a later "I told you so moment".

It would have been a better article if Keegan had devoted all his words to the future that may or may not lay ahead for KU athletics (not Athletics). I myself have been wondering where KU would fit into the scheme of things if anything remotely like the current rumors would play out. So many names keep popping up from the Big 12...Missouri and Nebraska to the Big Ten; Texas, Oklahoma, Okie State, and even A&M to the SEC; and Colorado to the Pac-10. Somehow, KU has yet to be linked to any change whatsoever.

So where would any such doomsday scenario leave things? Does KU and the remnants of the Big 12 pull in a few other schools (TCU for example, or Louisville from a dismantled Big East) and become a middle-tier conference, one definitely lacking in power? Or might it better serve KU to see if it can bank its basketball credibility and become an independent, ala Notre Dame in football?

Regardless, I do agree with Tom on one important point: this is where Perkins truly shows his true worth to the athletic department and the university. The shoddy performance of the department overall doesn't make his job any easier, so now we would really get to see what kind of weight Lew has among his peers.

All this said, I admit the conference shake-ups are just as much innuendo and conjecture as the first part of the article, but I for one am more concerned about its impact than that of the Williams Fund.

Christopher Johnson 12 years, 7 months ago

The day we leave the Big XII, Big XIII or whatever it has been or will be, I will stop financially supporting the athletic department. I will love KU sports forever, but Lew has to know and respect tradition. If this could be true, out with Lew.

lv_jhwk 12 years, 7 months ago

So does KU just sit and wait for much of the Big 12 to leave it behind then? Again this is all hypothetical at this point, but why not work to protect your interests so the walls crumble around you and not on you? I understand the desire to continue tradition, but that will be all the more difficult with mid-level exposure.

Rob Keeney 12 years, 7 months ago

I would love to see the Big XII expand into one of the super conferences, but there has been nothing coming from the Southern Command. Beebe and the rest of the empty 10 gallon hats are going to circle the wagons and watch as school by school gets picked off by the Big 10 and Pac 10. This same course of action led to the demise of the SWC 15+ years ago. I would be applauding Lew if he's working to get KU into a position to join a super conference.

d_prowess 12 years, 7 months ago

It is folks like hawkandtigerfan that have their heads in the sand and don't see the big picture. The Big10, Pac-10, and SEC are all publicly positioning themselves to raid the Big 12 in expansion. KU needs to be ready to follow the tide if need be because to stay loyal to the Big12 could mean us headlining a conference that gets included in future mid-major discussions.

lv_jhwk 12 years, 7 months ago

Yeah, selling our "overall sports reputation" must sort of be like trying to push through a homely beauty contestant..."Yeah, she might have warts on her cheeks and be missing her left leg, but she's got a great set of boobs!"

Andy Tweedy 12 years, 7 months ago

Our sports reputation probably doesn't get it done, but that's not what the people in charge are looking at with this shakeup. It's all about money, and while I'm sure those conferences would welcome KU basketball, only one sport brings in the dollars they care about, and that's football. There is an effort by Perkins to pump money into the football program, so we better hope HCTG can win with that money, or none of the rest of this will ultimately matter.

5DecadeHawk 12 years, 7 months ago

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Brandon Deines 12 years, 7 months ago

Is this Keegan's Bill Mayer impersonation?

"Longer road trips to cooler climates tends to make blue blood boil. Plus, the plodding style of basketball doesn’t float the boats of Kansas fans."

integritycounts 12 years, 7 months ago

lvjhawk, "shoddy performance of the athletic department doesnt make his job any easier". He is the CEO of the department and will and should be held responsible for the "shoddy performance". He surrounded himself with people of questionable character and there was no accountability in his department. This is all on Lew and wallets will be kept in the pocket until this crook is gone.

KGphoto 12 years, 7 months ago

Could you please lose the spastic, seizure-inducing advertisement?

Enough already.

scholz 12 years, 7 months ago

F the Big 10 and all of their schools. KU will be fine if the Big 12 starts to fall apart. Mostly because we will still dominate the conference and get a ticket to the biggest conference tournament......the NCAA Tournament. Where it's a privaledge to play in. I'd hate to join an already too strong of conference like the Big East or Big 10. Why move to a different conference when we haven't been knocked off the top in the last decade? It's like Jordan at age 40 sayin he has nothing else to prove, so why would he come back a 4th time?

Tim Orel 12 years, 7 months ago

KU's BB would be fine, but football wouldn't be. There are a lot of expensive ticket items and much of those are paid for out of conference broadcast revenues. KU is more than just BB, despite what has happened to KU's teams this spring.

Chris Shaw 12 years, 7 months ago

I like the idea of moving to the Big 10. It raises the bar in some areas.

justanotherfan 12 years, 7 months ago

The reason behind the worry for KU in any conference realignment is the lack of control of a major TV market. KU splits the KC tv market with Missouri. Wichita isn't a big market. TV is where the dollars are, and frankly, KU doesn't have the same draw as MU (StL and half the KC market) Texas (Dallas-FW market) or Colorado (Denver). Nebraska is also intriguing because you take the Huskers, you get the entire state, plus the Dakotas. Small markets to be sure, but you get the whole thing because NU has a monopoly that KU doesn't enjoy because of K-State. That same rationale is why all of this expansion talk does not include Oklahoma, even though they have been traditionally strong in football, basketball, women's basketball, baseball, softball, etc. OU doesn't control enough TV sets to make them a prime catch for a conference trying to capture TV dollars.

Worst case scenario, Nebraska and MU go to the Big 10, Texas goes to the SEC, and Colorado heads to the Pac-10 along with BYU and Utah, leaving KU, K-State, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Texas A&M in the shell that was the Big 12. At that point, the best the old Big 12 could do is grab Colorado State, TCU, New Mexico and perhaps Boise State to form a solid conference. However, even as a major conference, this set-up would be weaker than an SEC that added Texas, UNC, Miami and Florida State, a Big Ten with Notre Dame, Nebraska, Missouri, Pittsburgh and Boston College (Big 10 could also grab either Syracuse or Rutgers to secure the NYC market) and a Pac-10 with Colorado, BYU, Utah and perhaps one other school (Nevada?). The remnants of the ACC and Big East (Rutgers, Syracuse, Louisville, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Connecticut, USF, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech and Maryland) could either join forces and form a super conference of their own by adding (East Carolina) a team (the smart idea) or fight it out for survival in their current leagues (the dumb idea).

Steve Brown 12 years, 7 months ago

No the worse case is that MU Neb go Big 10. Colorado Pac 10 and then Texas, ATM, OSU and OKl. go SEC, then we have nothing left and we apply begging to the Mo. Valley.

Steve Brown 12 years, 7 months ago

I have a slow mind and trying to sort this out.

cash is after tax. services are before tax.

so if a construction service company, roofs, windows, carpet, plbg. cabinets, etc. wanted to trade services with others to build a house and help them build their house or remodle addition, they could do it with trade outs for service and avoid taxes.

interesting.

so if trades or business got better fund points to improve AFH seats or promotional space on video boards or in game programs with service instead of cash, then things get sticky, especially if the service value was inflated and wasn't reported.

so if a donor was allowed to provide service coupled with a good faith document of past giving from 70-80's before the official point talley began, then one could see platinum status on donors with very little cash outlay that would pass the SEC level of audit oversight. point systems have advantages yet also allow for subjective discrimination.

what a tangled web we weave.

Steve Brown 12 years, 7 months ago

all speculation of course...................

justanotherfan 12 years, 7 months ago

That would leave us with five "power" conferences.

New "Big Ten"

West - Nebraska, Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Notre Dame East - Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Boston College.

This league would control the following markets (half of KC, StL, the entire upper plains, Twin Cities, Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Boston). That's impressive.

New SEC

West - Texas, Ole Miss, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida State East - Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Miami

That would control every major TV market in the south (and most of the minor ones, too), without exception.

New Pac-10

South - Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, USC, Utah, BYU, Colorado North - Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, Nevada

That would control every TV market west of the Rockies. They would lose a little prestige having to take on three teams from non-BCS leagues, but the benefit would be that they pick up two of the hottest non-BCS football teams in Utah and BYU.

Leftover ACC-Big East merger

North - Syracuse, Rutgers, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Connecticut, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech South - Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, USF, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Louisville, East Carolina

A decent league. They would have to add East Carolina to even things out, but they would still have all of their other current members coming from BCS conferences.

Big Twelve

Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Boise State, TCU, Colorado State and New Mexico.

No real TV power there. Still gets a slice of the Texas markets (although UT would dominate those markets) and holds strong in Kansas and Oklahoma, but doesn't have much in the way of power outside of that, since ISU and CSU are secondary schools in their home states. It's a decent league, but far more watered down than any other league would be.

Jonathan Allison 12 years, 7 months ago

Is this purely specuation on your part, or are there actually rumors of the Big XII considering New Mexico and Boise State?

I just find it hard to believe that Boise State would join the Big XII when none of the Big XII schools (except maybe Colorado State) would be near close enough to drive.

They would makea much better addition to the PAC-10 than would Nevada. Though Reno make more sense locationally to play against Arizona, ASU, and the SoCal schools.

justanotherfan 12 years, 7 months ago

I'm speculating about who would join the Big XII based on what's left if all of these proposed movements happen. I looked around and the only schools that are even reasonable to consider for the Big XII would be Boise, CSU, Nevada (who would probably prefer to end up in the Pac-10) the Utah schools and the New Mexico schools. I suppose Houston would also be an option, but the difference between Boise and Houston is pretty big in football. I don't know that Boise would join, but if you're Boise and you can't get in the Pac-10, but there is a BCS spot open in the Big XII, don't you have to take that?

John Boyle 12 years, 7 months ago

I see the future and the new Big 12(or other suitable name) will consist of:

KU, KSU, Iowa State, Baylor, Texas Tech, OSU, OU, Texas A&M, Wichita State, Tulsa, Illinois State, Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, Drake, Bradley and Creighton. With all the non-football schools adding football with the new found revenue. Maybe the new name could be THE BIG VALLEY. We could get Lee Majors and Linda Evans to be spokespersons for the league.

Jeff Seymour 12 years, 7 months ago

You should go to cbssports.com and read the recent articles written by Dennis Dodd regarding 4 super conferences. The Big 12 would lose TX,TX A&M, OU & OSU to the SEC. The new Big 12: Iowa St, NU, CU, CSU, KU, KSU, TX Tech, Baylor, New Mexico, TCU, Tulsa, SMU, Huston, Rice and Tulane. There are several very good articles regarding conference changes by Dodd.

Jeff Seymour 12 years, 7 months ago

You should go to cbssports.com and read the recent articles written by Dennis Dodd regarding 4 super conferences. The Big 12 would lose TX,TX A&M, OU & OSU to the SEC. The new Big 12: Iowa St, NU, CU, CSU, KU, KSU, TX Tech, Baylor, New Mexico, TCU, Tulsa, SMU, Huston, Rice and Tulane. There are several very good articles regarding conference changes by Dodd.

Marcia Parsons 12 years, 7 months ago

Would that also include loss of BCS status? I don't know what regulates that.

d_prowess 12 years, 7 months ago

A lot of people don't like Lew Perkins for what they believe he has done to make KU Athletics more about business than tradition, loyalty, or whatever else.
But can anyone honestly say that they don't feel a little less worried about KU's future given that we have Lew working for athletics best interests during this impending jockeying for teams by other conferences? Love him or hate him, it is in his best interests (and KUs) to make sure that KU remains part of a major conference, which a pilfered Big 12 would not be.

Dyrk Dugan 12 years, 7 months ago

all of this talk about superconferences and more money, and on and on...just makes me sick.

KU, MU, and NU have been in a league together for 103 years...that's 25 generations of college students...and one of those schools for sure, and possibly two, are hankering to leave over a few more dollars per year? and where is the guarantee, that all those extra few millions will continue?

guess what? there are no guarantees in life...(only death and taxes)...and frankly, the moneybags that are supporing both MU and NU have plenty of money to sustain these schools for years to come.

folks around here do know (or maybe you don't) that two of the richest people in the country, are the wives (the Walmart heiress Walton girls) of another couple of rich guys, who regularly support the Tiggers (Kroenke and Laurie.). ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?

the athletic budget of every school in the Big 12, has probably doubled or even tripled in the years since the league formed. do you think our facilities at KU haven't improved over that time? good grief, when i was at school there in the 80s, it wasn't even close...it's mind boggling how nice it is now.

so if you think KU's facilities are nice, just think about MU and NU. big time swanky. but yet, MU is getting screwed...look at all that money in the Big 10 and so on and so on. Good night, we're on the plains! we don't have near the population centers! we don't have near the students (Most Big 10 schools are 35, 40 thousand plus...only UT and aTm in the Big 12 have that many)!

in the grand scheme of things, it's been a pretty good run. and if MU and NU want to leave decades upon decades of tradition, over money, then so be it. if the Big 12 schools can't come up with something themselves to expand, and keep everybody together, then it wasn't worth it to begin with..and the old Missouri Valley will die.

again, death and taxes...the only two sure things.

Christopher Johnson 12 years, 7 months ago

When these Big XII teams join conferences with teams so far away, how will it affect fan attendance? Will our fans still travel to games? It seems pretty inconvenient to travel halfway across the country for conference games. I think the Big XII has some great fan loyalty because the midwest doesn't have anything else to latch onto. How will that loyalty and midwest interest change if we're in a conference with other powerhouses so far from home?

4everahawk 12 years, 7 months ago

Let's take a vote..........who on this board is naive enough to believe that Lew has KU's best interest at heart? He is concerned with what is in HIS best interests and probably won't be here long enough to be affected by what conference we're in so it's a mute issue with regard to him having any impact on this decision.

John Boyle 12 years, 7 months ago

Sorry, I meant it will be his legacy. I don't know how my secretary missed that one.

d_prowess 12 years, 7 months ago

I agree with JayhawkJohn. Even if you think Lew is only in it for himself, he getting up there in age (65?) and I think this is his last stop. So he will use all his contacts and manipulative power to make sure we are not left in a conference without UT, NU, MU, and CU. That is not the way anyone wants to go out. So I for one am really glad he is running the show with all of this going on.

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May 4, 2010 at 6:51 a.m."

5decadehawk, gettin' deep-sixed! Can't recall which part violated the usage agreement...


KGphoto ~

If you click on the "refresh" button in your browser, that will usually pull up a more aesthetically pleasing ad in its stead.

John Boyle 12 years, 7 months ago

Scandal quiet…for now

Guess what Keegan? It would be quiet, if you would shut up about it! This isn't even a legitimate article. There is not one shred of fact. You should have submitted this to the National Enquirer.

Chris1955 12 years, 7 months ago

I think Jaybate had some interesting ideas regarding mega conferences awhile back. I could see the formation of 24 team conferences.

You could merge the entire Big 12 and Big 10, add Notre Dame

Another option would be merging the Pac 10 and Big 12, plus adding BYU and Utah

I realize that money rules the roost, however, the Big 12 is good in both basketball and football, which is what will drive the TV revenue.

4everahawk 12 years, 7 months ago

His legacy at KU will be this scandal.....

E4KUJHawks 12 years, 7 months ago

"Scandal quiet for now..."

Too bad Keegan's not! It MIGHT have been quiet for now, until ol' big-mouth started flappin' his jaws about it...thus making it not quiet, despite his headline.

Sure am glad my life is not so miserable that I wake up each day and think to myself..."Gee, what negativity can I spew today via my job as a "journalist" (hahaha--NOT), and ruin people's morning coffee while they read the "news"?"

I understand the concept of stirring up interest and all that...but damn Keegan is just a great big downer!!!

justinryman 12 years, 7 months ago

The Big East cong, is on it's last leg, when Pitt, Syracuse and Rutgers leave it and possibly Cincy due to thier football teams(OK Syracuse and football not so much, but), it will only be a basketball conf. for the most part. It will lose its BCS automatic bid and so forth. I'm sure the Big 10 is looking into those teams due to geographical locations. I could see mizzu going Big 10 as well, there are lots of rumors in Nebraska about them looking into the Big 10 as well.

The Big 12 needs to act first, action is faster than reaction, so go after teams like Boisie St., TCU, Arkansas(They have never really been a good fit in the SEC), Colorado St., and see what happens. As long as the Big 12 still has Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska it will stay as a conference, but if one or two of those teams defect, the Big 12 is done. No disrespect to KU, but this "Power Conference" thing is more about football, than any other sports. Those three schools have a lot of National pull, due to thier National Titles and well Texas' money.

justinryman 12 years, 7 months ago

The big problem for the Big 12 schools is traveling logistics, long way to go to play Penn St. or Washington, all the way from Lubic. Sure for football money might not be an issue, but Softball, swimming, gymnastics, track, the non-revenue sports could belly-up a University due to travel expences. The Big 12 needs to stay in the Heartland and there are teams to add to it as listed above to name a few.

Sure the Big 10 has it's own TV network, but that won't be able to pay for everything. The Big needs to make thier own network, it will give it some nice exposure.

So if the NCAA allows all these super conference's, what would there be? 4, 6 or 8 across the country? How many non conference games would a team have in football each year? How often might you play a team in your conference if there are 16 teams in it? Once every 4 or 5 years?

What if KU goes west and Mizzu goes East, would they still play each other every year? In all sports?

The Big 12 needs to act fast and not sit on the sidelines on this one or well who know's where the Old Big 8 teams might end up????

truefan 12 years, 7 months ago

From what I've heard, the only reason that the Big Ten has any pull towards becoming a super conference is the Big Ten network. There are rumors floating that the Big XII network is in the works and if that's true then there is no reason to worry. We have a stronger and more competitive conference than the Big Ten and we will soon be making just as much money. I would be more worried if I were a Big Ten or Big East fan.

justanotherfan 12 years, 7 months ago

The Big Ten still has more big markets - Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Indianapolis - than the Big XII can boast - Kansas City, Dallas, Denver.

That's what this expansion is about - television and football. Unfortunately for KU, it's a middle of the road player on both accounts. Not enough tv's (and people) in Kansas, not enough consistent football success to make them a factor.

Oklahoma is saved by their football history even though they don't have many tv's either, and OSU is rescued by the fact that the legislature can block any OU move that leaves OSU behind.

In fact, the only thing that may save the Big XII is the fact that the Texas legislature can block a UT move. When the Big XII was formed, several powerful legislatures forced UT to insist on the inclusion of Baylor (their alma mater) in the new conference to keep Baylor in a power conference. Otherwise Rice, Houston, SMU or TCU may well have been a Big XII member while Baylor landed in Conference USA.

Mkultra 12 years, 7 months ago

Why does LJW continually use Kansas University instead of the proper University of Kansas?

Scott Smetana 12 years, 7 months ago

Hey Keegan,

The Tyshawn Taylor and football scandal has been quiet for a while too. Could you please do an article on that? Also, I'd like to hear more about D. Arthur's grades and our suspension in '89. We love re-hashing negative stories about KU.

Jarod DeLozier 12 years, 7 months ago

Does anyone really think that KU would get left out of a super conference...really?

jhox 12 years, 7 months ago

I believe the chances of us getting left out of the super-conferences is not only real, it is likely. The Big 10 has shown no interest. On one hand they talk about academics, and then they supposedly court NU, a school that has traditionally been viewed as a pretty mediocre academic institution. It's all about TV sets. Missouri has them, Nebraska doesn't, but they have a huge national following in football, and that appeals to the big 10.

If Lew is smart, he is on the phone with the SEC, trying to secure a place along with Texas, Texas A&M, OU, OSU, and maybe Texas Tech. We need the South for football recruiting. Having access to Texas recruits has been the best thing to ever happen to KU football. We could give them another premier basketball program in return. If not the SEC, then we should be lobbying the Pac 10.

If we're not careful, we're going to be left out with KSU, Iowa State, Baylor and Texas Tech. The last thing we want is to be part of a mid level conference like that. We clearly have more to offer bigger conferences than any of those schools, mainly due to our basketball program, but that doesn't guarantee we won't be left out too.

One more thing. If MU bolts for the Big 10, I'd never schedule another sporting event with them. If we meet in a tournament, so be it, but let's not let them have their cake and eat it too (by allowing them to keep their rivalry with us.) Let them try to pretend the Illinois rivaly means as much to them as the KU rivalry did. Unfortunately, the lure of the dollar will win out, and we'll continue to play them, but I wish that were not the case.

Jack Wilson 12 years, 7 months ago

I'm not sure what is less interesting to discuss .. conference realignment or the ticket scandal.

But I will toss this in .. Memphis would be a nice add. Ok football-wise, and would help from a hoops perspective.

Jeff Kilgore 12 years, 7 months ago

If super conferences come about, you can pull the curtains down on the whole athletic department at Kansas. I have no interest in joining a WAC-type league. If we find ourselves on the outside looking in, it's over for me.

Money has damaged and will continue to damage college athletics. When the SEC/BigXII South join together, it won't last. Look at the Big East. That conference is a bloodbath and schools are looking to split. Who wants to join something that big?

Andrew Moore 12 years, 7 months ago

I'd like to see us kick out ISU and bring in a Memphis, TCU or New Mexico. Memphis is a team that would surely love to join a big league. TCU has the football tradition to make a name for itself, but isn't it a private school? I don't think we need another one in our league. I'd shoot for memphis if Missouri leaves.

All this talk of super conferences and 16-team expansion is garbage. Total fantasy world! it will never happen

4everahawk 12 years, 7 months ago

"The more in-depth the investigation, the more you know you can trust those standing at the end of the seven-figures scandal."

So what if NO ONE is left standing? That would be a clean house. Time to start rebuilding a reputable athletics department and get the pride back at KU.

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