Sunday, September 27, 2009

How Keegan voted


The following is Tom Keegan's Sept. 27 ballot for the Associated Press college football poll.

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Boise State
5. Oklahoma
6. LSU
7. Iowa
8. Southern Cal
9. Ohio State
10. Virginia Tech
11. Houston
12. Oregon
13. TCU
14. Auburn
15. Cincinnati
16. Penn State
17. Oklahoma State
18. Kansas
19. Nebraska
20. UCLA
21. Georgia
22. South Florida
23. South Carolina
24. Mississippi
25. BYU


Jason Bailey 12 years, 7 months ago

Keegan: Seriously? Oregon goes from not in the top 25 to #12 after getting lucky against California who didn't show up to play on Saturday? This sort of thing happens from time to time where a team just isn't in the game mentally and commits big mistakes. That does not mean the opposing team is worthy of moving up 20 spots (or whatever) in the polls.

I'm growing more disenchanted with the whole system. BCS -- AP Polls. It's all a bunch of subjective nonsense. At least when I see a team ranked #25 in Basketball, I think to myself, "Doesn't matter a hill of beans...all that matters is who shows up to play in March in the 65 team bracket." Unfortunately, college FB doesn't have that luxury so polls matter.

This is a load of crap.

KUSmurf 12 years, 7 months ago

After watching the AP polls so far this year, I've seen a lot of unranked teams that beat a top 10 team jump up into the low teens. Pretty stupid.

hometownhawk 12 years, 7 months ago

Keegan is an idiot. Sad that he runs this sports dept.

suttonku 12 years, 7 months ago

Iowa to number 7????????? what has the world come to? thats awful.

that_guy 12 years, 7 months ago

The AP poll has no bearing on the BCS.

okiedave 12 years, 7 months ago

ESPN fan poll has put Boise State as the No. 1 team in the nation. Idaho fans are voting with unabandoned ferocity. How many potato farmers do they have in that state?

tdub 12 years, 7 months ago

Just curious, did anybody see Iowa play before yesterday??? Keegan included? Didn't think so.

rasta_meta 12 years, 7 months ago

jason2007, I couldn't agree with you more.

The AP is such a joke.

Keegan voted Washington #11 last week because they got luck in one game against USC. Oregon has looked terrible all year until yesterday. I have seen all of their games. The problem is that Cal was overrated as well. Since Cal was 6 and Oregon beat them, then that means Oregon must be a top 15 or top 10 team. The logic these guys use is amazingly stupid.

Come on Keegan, how about learning from past mistakes.

In todays game, any given saturday just about any decent team can beat any other team if everything goes right for them, that does mean they are top team. You have to look at all of their games and their body of work and Oregon is very, very lucky that they don't have 3 losses already. How that makes them a top 15 team is beyond me.

Some of these voters show their total lack for understanding the game of college football every time they vote.

The coaches poll is far more accurate this week than the AP.

rasta_meta 12 years, 7 months ago

Iowa is not the #7 team in the country either. Again, Penn State was overrated to begin with. Also, Penn State seems to always lose to Iowa. Many people predicted Iowa would win that game. Iowa is barely a top 25 team at this point. They haven't proven anything, just like Oregon.

Also, Boise State is at #4 because of their beat down on Oregon in the first game. If you watched Boise State after that game, they have looked very average against some bad teams. They are at best a top 15 school, not a top 5. I think both Houston and TCU are better than they are at this point.

Eric Williams 12 years, 7 months ago

Based on Keegan's ratings last week, here a few eye-popping observations.

OU jumps 3 spots to number 5 while on a bye, jumping LSU who won a conference road game. Iowa jumps to #7 cause they play good defense. BTW they were unranked last week by Keegan. Oregon jumps to #12 cause they throttled #6 Cal. Once again, unranked last week. Underranked teams: Cincinnati at #15 and Kansas at #19 Auburn beats pitiful Ball State and jumps Cincinnati? Oklahoma State jumps 6 spots for beating Grambling State? Miami (FL) dropped out of the top 25? The same team that has played 3 ranked opponents so far.

I have no problem with South Florida and South Carolina creeping in in the bottom of the polls, but this week's rankings are horrible.

Eric Williams 12 years, 7 months ago

how did i not catch my error. KU is #18. I apologize.

Christopher Johnson 12 years, 7 months ago

How does USC lose a bad game every year and still have an argument for the national title? It's going to happen again this year. Ridiculous.

prairie_rattler 12 years, 7 months ago

Didn't Iowa just squeak by (less than a field goal) Northern Iowa at home earlier this season? Keegan.... posting the ballot isn't enough... give us some insight (commentary) on the rationale you used.

100 12 years, 7 months ago

Because they play Ohio State & Notre Dame in addition to nine other BCS schools during the regular season. Plus so much of voting is sheer talent -- they are stocked & truly it was quite a surprise that they lost to UW.

Still, that said, even though they lost that game without their starting QB, they fell to #11, which I know would've made us mad if we fell that far after losing to Missouri when we were #2 in the nation a couple years ago (we fell to #7 in one poll).

In short, early season polls are always ridiculous because there are so many teams to choose from with good records -- in a couple weeks things should settle down into more of a rhythm.

Which is good for us -- we are already slowly creeping towards that top 10 status, which is much farther along than we were in late September during the 2007-2008 Orange Bowl season.

My point is... if we keep winning, even though we're not loaded with 3 strings of talent like USC, we will snag that top spot, and if we keep winning, past the Missouri & Big 12 championship game, we will play for the national championship.

It's simply a matter of winning one game at a time -- and, even though we have a couple holes to fix, each & every game is winnable for us this year if Coach Mangino chooses the right gameplan & the guys are playing with fire.

Each & every game.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk

Ben Kane 12 years, 7 months ago

you guys need to all come down. It's too early still to get worried about this stuff. This is why I don't believe there should be any polls until week 6. If we keep winning we will keep climbing.

gongs4ku 12 years, 7 months ago

Iowa almost lost to Northern Iowa, this season...

That said, they're undefeated with a marquee win, so I can see putting them top 15, but 7 does seem a little high...

Jarod Kilgore 12 years, 7 months ago

Polls should be a measuring stick, and they should be based upon what the team has accomplished up to this point in the season. If Iowa is #7 and Oregon in in the low teens or something, it should not be taken as a prediction of how good these teams are, or are going to be at the end of the year, it should be based on what they've done the first 4 weeks of the season.

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