Saturday, November 28, 2009

Mangino ‘optimistic’ he’ll return next season

Kansas head coach Mark Mangino scans his offense during a timeout in the Jayhawks’ game against Oklahoma on Oct. 24 at Memorial Stadium. Mangino is under investigation for allegedly poking a player.

Kansas head coach Mark Mangino scans his offense during a timeout in the Jayhawks’ game against Oklahoma on Oct. 24 at Memorial Stadium. Mangino is under investigation for allegedly poking a player.


Embattled Kansas University football coach Mark Mangino said before Saturday's Border War matchup with Missouri that he was optimistic he'd return to coach the team next season.

"I'm optimistic; it's full speed ahead," Mangino said during a pregame interview with ESPN. "We've worked hard to prepare for this game. We'll get on the road and recruit. I'm very optimistic."

Mangino, whose contract runs through 2012, is currently the source of an internal university investigation into his treatment of players, and his future with the program has been the source of much speculation in recent days.

The investigation was launched after an incident in which Mangino allegedly poked senior linebacker Arist Wright in the chest. Since then, multiple former players have come forward with similar allegations against the coach.


escaped_labrat 12 years, 7 months ago

We believe in you Coach Mangino. Keep sawin' wood!

drewdun 12 years, 7 months ago

After that last offensive series he's dead in the water. Dude is so, so gone. He deserves to be fired for that series alone.

It's been a nice run but this game was the final straw. Seven (7) straight losses to finish the season and LAST place in the worst division in a BCS conference is absolutely inexcusable. I couldn't care less about the mental abuse garbage. The coaching....the coaching is what will cost him his job, just like it cost us this game. Heartbreaking.

Currahee 12 years, 7 months ago

Don't ever forget. This man led us to the orange bowl and gave us something we could actually call a football program.

Mistakes were made, yes. Despite our misgivings if you take a look the only problem we've had was defense and our offense was perfectly fine.

If Mangino gets fired it will just show how desperate KU is.

Steve Brown 12 years, 7 months ago

Mangino is an idiot. he threw the game on purpose at the end to get back at a program he wont' have for another day.... he should be released on the spot and denied access to the locker room made to walk home, I have NEVER used weight which I think is off limits but after this last series let the tub of lard go now, don't wait for investigation. that abusing idiot.

beakem_in_LA 12 years, 7 months ago

If we had won or lost almost any other way, even a blowout, I think he might have had a chance to redeem himself. But after those three calls in the last 3 minutes, he's gotta go. Look, I appreciate the Orange Bowl win, but we've gotten worse in the last two seasons, and we still had Reesing, Sharp, Meier... there's no excuse. Here's hoping Boise St. gets dikt out of a deserving bowl game and we can some how lure Chris Petersen to Lawrence.

jayhawkboogeyman 12 years, 7 months ago

We have gotten worse the last 2 seasons, worse by the week all season. This game was a perfect microcosm of how the season and his tenure the last 3 years have gone; great talent, hot start, lots of promise, but utterly incompetent and foolish management of talent when it counted most. Goodbye MM

Scott Lippoldt 12 years, 7 months ago

Currahee, Are you kidding?! If we DON'T fire Mangino, it will show how desparate KU is. We have the facilities and $$ to have a top-notch program--it will never happen with Mangino. Have you looked at his conference record? Do you not realize our big season came against an easy schedule with a defensive coordinator that made the difference? Do you understand we just finished LAST in the Big 12 North when we were projected to win the division?!!! What a JOKE! Now then there's his totally inexcusable tirades at players... Fire him quickly and move on!!!!!

Robert Brock 12 years, 7 months ago

"Mistakes were made." How passive. How perfect.

MrPilot 12 years, 7 months ago

How quickly we turn on someone when things don't go perfectly. Shame on all of you.

Ted Adams 12 years, 7 months ago

Currahee, I was with Mangino until the last 3:00 of the game. It just proves that sometimes this coaching staff has complete lack of fundamental football brains. You just don't throw the ball in that situation UNTIL 3rd down. Rell Lewis was playing awesome. He had a burst that MU couldn't deal with, and if you are going to have him out there, you have to give him the ball. You get a first down, it's over. You don't. You just used 1:30 off the clock minimum and made MU use their last TO. I was talking about that during the stoppage of play after the punt, and I had that figured out in 30 seconds.

This staff has to go. They blew too many games this year with entirely too much talent. they should be 8-4 and maybe as good as 10-2. You just can't overlook the most disappointing season in KU football history.

Scott Lippoldt 12 years, 7 months ago

This hasn't been quick, MrPilot. Last year was not good, and this year was horrendous. The accusations that have surfaced about Mark Mangino along with his incompetent coaching the last two seasons have not happened overnight. I support KU, but I am embarrassed to have him as our head coach. It's time to move on--quickly!

Ted Adams 12 years, 7 months ago

By the way, we just finished DEAD LAST in the Big 12 overall. THAT will NEVER be acceptable!

lovemyhawks 12 years, 7 months ago

i was also a supporter until the final 3 minutes but that was the most pathetic ending to a game and a season that i have ever ever seen. i was LIVID and SHOCKED that we could be so stupid. the entire world knew we needed to RUN THE BALL....... oh my gosh.... that was unbelievable and certainly the final straw. he's done some great things but he is definitely toast now and deservingly so.

GoBigRed1 12 years, 7 months ago

The sad thing, to me, is that you (KU Fans) would not be blinking an eye at the FatMan had the winning ways continued. Ya'll remind me of sharks circling their kill. Had KU not gone through a 7 game losing streak, Mangino's tirades would still be swept under the Athletic Director's carpet. Ya'll have NO shame.

One more thing.


David Wanamaker 12 years, 7 months ago

Fire him. And Warriner and Bowen too. Before they even get back to Lawrence.

Jason Bailey 12 years, 7 months ago

Typical Nebraska fan. Were you also drunk when you wrote that, GoBigRed1? I sat next to most of your colleagues a few weeks ago in Memorial Stadium and had to leave before half with my 6 y/o daughter due to their foul mouthed drunkeness. True class there.

jhokfan 12 years, 7 months ago

You're right gobigred1.

Look at all the criminals Osborn recruited. No one in Nebraska gave a s### as long as he won. If he had lost the corn people would have developed a moral conscience and booted his sorry a$$. Winning justifies anything.

Christopher Johnson 12 years, 7 months ago

Last year wasn't good? We won 8 games . . . WTF

GoBigRed1 12 years, 7 months ago

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blondejuan 12 years, 7 months ago

Lew Perkins is the one that should go! I admit he has done his job. He has raised alot of money. KU sports is becoming a "corporate event". The fun and tradition that KU has been known for is over! Fire Lew.

jhokfan 12 years, 7 months ago

Somebody had a hissy fit!.

Don't mention criminal and Osborn to corn fans.

nelson 12 years, 7 months ago

hey little red remember Frank Solage????

lv_jhwk 12 years, 7 months ago

And just where were you, GoBigRed, when Solich was getting pushed out of Lincoln? I highly doubt a belligerent such as yourself was on the support side!

As for Mangino...your opposite-gender doppelganger is finished warming up her vocal cords and is about to start her concerto. Thanks for all you did getting the program to this point, but it has to "keep sawing wood" and your blade has gotten too dull.

Mike Gammill 12 years, 7 months ago

If Mangino is fired, we'll get a D-1A coach with no track record, and be 1-11 or 0-12 next year. And, it won't get much better afterwards. He'll struggle to get to a 4-8 mark, (if he lasts that long), be fired, and the whole cycle start over again. Been that way since the '50s.

KU never learns, nor can they stand prosperity in football. As long as we have a good team once in a while, and even a dime a dozen bowl game once in a while, we're all happy. 52 wins the school record? That's very sad.

Let this happen in b-ball and watch the s*** hit the fan!

TenaciousD 12 years, 7 months ago

Lew Perkins has every right to be PISSED OFF. He has worked his butt off to build those football facilities and to go 1 and 7 in conference (and almost 0 and 8) ? There's no excuse for that, especially with this senior class.

The game today was the first game all year the team showed the effort of the 2007 team. Perkins set the team up with cupcakes in the pre-season and probably paid good money to have them come to Lawrence. Mangino didn't hold up his part of the bargain. He has to go.

Jeff Hargate 12 years, 7 months ago

Briscoe=2 fumbles trying to get extra yards Reesing=before halftime pick very costly Mangino=pass,pass,safety in last 3 min

Too many errors to overcome. How about the TO before MU took a snap on our 10 yd line under 2 min? This was AFTER the injury TO. Have our players or staff learned anything in the last 6 weeks?

Complete clusterbum. If I was a player...??????

Lew better hit a homeun or we are completely screwed for the forseeable future.

Currahee 12 years, 7 months ago

And may I ask WHO would we replace Mangino with? KU had a nonexistant football program until he came. So I ask you WHO will come to KU? The unproven coaches? do you think KU will be better off with them than Mangino?

Think about it. He was probably under a lot of pressure during the last 3 minutes. Who the hell wouldn't be? You got the athletic director on you with significant pressure from fans to win the game. Do you think you can perform well in under such circumstances?

Don't be all pissy just because we lost a lot of games in a row. It's a lot better than what KU started out with which was almost nothing.

Geekinout 12 years, 7 months ago

Hey Nebraska dude, didn't you all fire Solich with a 7-3 season? One of your thug running backs is also about to do life for murder. You guys are a joke!

gratefulhawk 12 years, 7 months ago

charlie strong, turner gill, nolan cromwell. ditka.

Steve Brown 12 years, 7 months ago

got a nice bonfire in the backyard with all my orange bowl memorbilia, don't want anything around here to remind me of that stupid coach.

Love the seniors and what they gave us, can't believe we kept the coach during the investigation, should have been suspended during investigation.

I'm so worried we'll get a no name coach and end up in the cellar next year, ooops that was this year.

run three plays even if you get 2 yards each, by the way use all the available clock kick it to the 45 yard line and give them less than minute left is that so very hard to do.....what a clusterbumble.

Carolyn Hunzicker 12 years, 7 months ago

Coach...If you do survive...And keep the defensive coach and that bunch...they will take you down....Very poor prep from your D team all season

bradh 12 years, 7 months ago

Seems to me that we lost most of the last 7 games because of turnovers, not because of anything Mangino did. Most people had written us out of this game, yet we led for most of the game.

I for one appreciate Mangino and his staff. It's a sad end to a sad season to see all the anger directed at someone who has done so much for the program. I remember decades when we would have lauded a coach who got 5 victories. His success raised our expectations and now we want him out of town because our expectations weren't met? We're a tough group and in my experience have about an 80% chance of being even more disappointed next year if we fire Mangino.

troutsee 12 years, 7 months ago

While driving home from the game, I listened to Mangino's post-game comments. He was very articulate, diplomatic, and seemed to say all the "right things," but it is too late. A last place finish in the conference after many picked us to be playing for the championship is unacceptable (forget about the player "abuse"). His conference record over 8 years and this horrendous year should be enough to get him fired. If he is our coach next year, KU is going to lose a lot of fan support. I think Lew knows this and will act accordingly. It's over for MM and his staff.

Bill Kackley 12 years, 7 months ago

There are a whole lot of idiots on this sight. The last 3 plays were far from terrible. We have no power running game with the big O out. They first pass could have easily have caught them by suprise and gone for long yardage. The second pass was incomplete only because of the poor condition of the field and if it had of been completed with his moves could have had either close to or had a first down and the 3 play was designed to try to get out a couple of yards to have a better opportunity to punt. Not Manginos fault the line didn't get the block. If they had of run it up the middle probably would have had the safety on that play and you all would have been complaining. If any coach made a dumb decision it was the Missouri coach in not going for it on 4th and 5 with under 3 minutes. He was plain lucky. If the coaches had run it up the middle, which I am sure Missouri was expecting them to do, they would have stopped us and you naysayers would have been screaming at that.or tried a sweep and been tackled for a loss again blame the coach. You guys are really great with your twenty-twenty hindsight vision. Lighthawk you are the stupid one. Go cheer for Missouri, we don't need your kind. You also are appropriately named LIGHThawk, very light.

Lance Hobson 12 years, 7 months ago

Hope Perkins doesn't let his personal issues with Mangino make him do something we all regret.

jhokfan 12 years, 7 months ago

I agree bradh. Our inability to protect the ball this season has been the biggest reason why we are 5-7. As good as Briscoe has been it was sloppy the way he carried the ball. For some inexplicable reason this team has been careless when it comes to ball protection.

troutsee 12 years, 7 months ago

Kackley, good points, but given the circumstances (we couldn't stop them, especially their running game), I think I would have at least tested the waters on first down with a run. It looked to me that Lewis sees the field better than Sharp and is more capable of finding the holes up the middle. One run would have been appropriate. The long pass was especially a troublesome call because as a QB in that situation, you have to throw the ball long, as you don't want a pick. Thus, the liklihood of a completion is very small. It was the first down call that put the pressure on the next two calls. The QB draw was also an iffy call in that circumstance because as a defensive linemen are going to be pinching to protect the middle of the field since a wide play is also unlikely from your own end zone. A QB draw in that situation is a high risk gamble when running it out of the end zone.

As usual, our KO coverage was horrible, even when Branstetter had higher and deeper kicks. Of course, our defense against the run was horrible but their offense is really difficult to defend. I really like their offense, as it creates so many possibilities. You wonder how Baylor was able to absolutely stuff it in the second half of their game. Apparently, any adjustments that we made at half time were the wrong ones, another indictment of this coaching staff.

Reesing was awesome tonight. You could tell from the opening snap that that kid was tuned in.

I am beyond the point of anger. Lew, get us out of this mess before it is too late.

LAJayhawk 12 years, 7 months ago


I understand your anger. However, those fans you are calling out are absolutely correct. When you say the following:

"If the coaches had run it up the middle, which I am sure Missouri was expecting them to do, they would have stopped us and you naysayers would have been screaming at that.or tried a sweep and been tackled for a loss again blame the coach."

You are kind of missing the point. Say we run it up the middle and gain nothing. Or lose half a yard. Then do it again with the same result. Then a sweep or option and pick up 1 or 2. Then punt. That doesn't sound great does it? Yet there are 3 reasons why that is the ABSOLUTE correct thing to do in that situation and everybody on the planet knew it. 1) The clock runs. 2) MU is forced to use their timeout. 3) We don't give up the safety and probably at worst are forced into overtime. Hell, we ran a QB sneek to pick up a couple yards earlier in the game with the ball at the 1 foot line and picked up 5 yards. Our offensive line was stellar today. Regardless, if we run the ball THE CLOCK RUNS AND MU USES IT'S TIMOUT.

Let me repeat that. THE CLOCK RUNS AND MU USES IT'S TIMEOUT. They get the ball back with about a minute to a minute and a half to ONLY TIE THE GAME with a field goal. It simply was the worst use of possession and clock management possible in a season of terrible possessions. The worst I've ever seen.


I hear what you are saying about that first play. I actually understood the call -- we audibled into it. They saw MU coming with pressure and decided to take a shot. From my above statements, I'm sure you can sense that I don't think that's the smartest move, but at least I understood it. Audible and catch them off guard. Don't agree with the pass over the top, but whatever. It's the 2nd down throw after the audible that makes no sense. WTF?? You HAVE to run clock. HAVE TO!!

I'm still so angry right now, that I feel like my head has already exploded and I'm experiencing some sort of chicken-with-it's-head-cut-off syndrome. I should probably step back from KU football for the rest of the night.....

Annette Lee 12 years, 7 months ago

why not fair catch the ball and not be on the 1 foot line..

grandpa 12 years, 7 months ago

I agree. Why not fair catch the ball.?Throwing the long pass to Briscoe stood no more than 25%completion. This is something you would do at the first of the game testing the water.Not at this time. The clock was very important and the coaches made bad calls.If we did the fair catch, we would have started on the 7 or 5 and had a little room. The first play is a short pass to the tight end who has not dropped over one pass all year. Second play was run by Lewis and we have a first down. Now run the clock out. Poor play calling !!!

GoBigRed1 12 years, 7 months ago

Rock Chalk Chicken Hawk.

FatMan is going down. Never was a Solichista.

Osborne was all about trying to save LP which in hindsight was a mistake. It would play out the same way again because Osborne cared about his kids. Honestly not like Fat Man.

Rock Chalk Chicken Hawk squaks cuz they are going DOWN

Blake Post 12 years, 7 months ago

right on the money geekinout.
nu are bugeaters and will get killed again. they stink. and we will dunk on their puny heads too

I have a connection with Texas, and so I have no trouble owning them while they become nebraska's next daddy

Steve Brown 12 years, 7 months ago

MM hey 4 of 7 losses this year you had the lead in 4th quarter ...still blaming the parents for unprepared kids?

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