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Originally published December 11, 2009 at 04:45p.m., updated December 12, 2009 at 12:00a.m.

Perkins: Coach search ongoing

Amid Harbaugh reports, KU A.D. says he has not offered the job to anyone

Kansas University athletic director Lew Perkins talks with media members outside the Anderson Family Football Complex on Thursday as he answers questions regarding the resignation of head coach Mark Mangino.

Kansas University athletic director Lew Perkins talks with media members outside the Anderson Family Football Complex on Thursday as he answers questions regarding the resignation of head coach Mark Mangino.

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By mid-day Friday, the word around town (and Internet sites and radio and multiple news stations) was that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh had pretty much been signed, sealed and delivered as the new coach of the Kansas University football team.

The only problem was, according to the man leading KU’s ongoing search for a new coach, none of it was backed by any kind of truth.

In response to the numerous reports that surfaced throughout the day, KU athletic director Lew Perkins issued a short statement late Friday afternoon indicating that he had not made a contract offer to any potential head football coach.

“As we have said in the past, we will not comment on rumors about any potential candidates for the position of head football coach at the University of Kansas,” he said. “Having said that, I will reiterate at this time that the process is ongoing. We have not offered the head coaching position to anyone.”

Perkins’ comments seemed to slow — at least temporarily — speculation that a Harbaugh-to-Kansas move is on the immediate horizon, though they likely did nothing to squelch fans’ intrigue of Harbaugh, a former NFL quarterback and the third-year coach at Stanford.

Since former KU coach Mark Mangino was ushered out last week amid allegations that he’d physically and verbally abused players, Harbaugh seems to have topped many a wish-list as Perkins has gone about the task of replacing the second-winningest coach in Kansas football history.

In just three years at Stanford, Harbaugh, who comes from a family of coaches, has made the Cardinal relevant in the Pac-10, leading the team to an 8-4 record this season and its first bowl berth since 2001.

Stanford has been trying to negotiate a new deal with the 45-year-old coach, whose wife is from the Kansas City area.

Earlier this week, KU über-booster Dana Anderson — whose name adorns the football team’s new $31 million complex — said he hopes the search is handled quickly in an effort to get things settled, and based on at least one recent development, his concern seems to be warranted.

Kansas University football commitment Jacoby Walker, a quarterback from Houston, de-committed from KU this week and will instead play at Utah, according to the Salt Lake (Utah) Tribune.

A three-star recruit according to Rivals.com, Walker committed to the Jayhawks in June, but reportedly began looking elsewhere after Mangino resigned.

Walker, who is set to graduate this winter, had planned to enroll at KU for the spring semester.

But with the uncertainty surrounding the head coaching position, doing so would have represented a significant gamble.

The effect of the recent coaching change on what has been a particularly strong 2010 commitment list — already, the team has landed three players rated as four-star recruits by Rivals.com —has been a concern since Mangino’s departure last Thursday

As the program’s remaining coaches have continued to try to keep the class intact, it has proven a difficult venture, at times.

“We’re just trying to make them at ease and point out the things that haven’t changed,“ defensive coordinator and interim coach Clint Bowen said last week. “Kansas is still a great university, a great community. They’re still committed to football and being successful in football. And none of those things have changed.”

Several names of candidates for the vacant Kansas job — aside from Harbaugh’s — also have been mentioned of late.

They are:

Buffalo coach Turner Gill, who reportedly has interviewed with Perkins.

East Carolina coach Skip Holtz.

Houston coach Kevin Sumlin.

Central Michigan coach Butch Jones.

Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema and Wisconsin defensive coordinator Dave Doeren.

Comments

jgoodvin 12 years, 8 months ago

Lew is trying to verify if Harbaugh is, in fact, as attractive as everyone says he is.

minipman 12 years, 8 months ago

lew needs to stop lying.. nobody likes secrets.. we all know that there is an offer on the table right now to a certain coach out west..

William James 12 years, 8 months ago

Why would Lew offer the job to a sub .500 coach when there is a living legend that has said he wants to come here. Our next coach will be Tommy Tuberville. That's reality Nebraska, deal with it.

actorman 12 years, 8 months ago

Clearly you have inside knowledge, minipman. I'd love to know where you got it. I also certainly hope you're right, and hope Harbaugh accepts it. And as far a Lew's "lying," I think that's much better than if he said something like, "Well, you're right, we've offered the position to Harbaugh. We certainly hope he accepts, because we'd hate to have to go with our second or third choice."

Hawk1969 12 years, 8 months ago

So tell me, why are people reporting that KU has offered Harbaugh a contract?

actorman 12 years, 8 months ago

To refer to Harbaugh as simply a "sub .500" coach is remarkably unfair. Stanford was a complete disaster when he got there and he practically took them to the Rose Bowl this year. It would have been virtually impossible to NOT be sub .500 after only three years, given what he inherited.

Hawk1969 12 years, 8 months ago

.....................and who are these people?

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

it's called plausible denial, lew doesn't want k.u. to look like the jilted lover. and or kansas fans to feel like we settled for second best. wait for it. where there is smoke there is fire. as in one firey head coach in jim harbaugh. i'm cool with this hire...rock chalk!

12 years, 8 months ago

LOL, actorman.

I am with fabio in hoping our man is Tuberville. However, I will be happy if Harbaugh is offered and accepts.

William James 12 years, 8 months ago

It is what it is. What Harbaugh has done is not as impressive as the coach we just fired. Thats reality. Tuberville is an undisputed legend.

Kyle Helmer 12 years, 8 months ago

Get a haircut, Fabio. I think it's affecting your judgment.

William James 12 years, 8 months ago

Harbaugh wouldnt come here anyway since he is taking the Michigan job next year.

sdoyel 12 years, 8 months ago

This article is pointless.

Lew already said he wasn't going to say anything....

Layne Pierce 12 years, 8 months ago

One interesting thing is that Tuberville actually came out on his own, and said he wanted the job. Do we all realize what a step that was for him to take? Maybe Lew is not too happy that he did.

Right now, let's face it, we know, I say know, of two candidates who really want the job, Turner Gill and Tommy Tuberville.

Everything else is pure speculation.

My gut feeling is still that Harbaugh is the guy, but I have to say Tuberville would really add something. Turner Gill could probably do the job, but he does not provide the zing that we need at this time. I do think,however, that he is likely to get the Cincinatti job.

Maybe Tuberville is really looking for the Cincy job, but talking about KU would not be the way to do it.

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

dodd is a tool. say harbaugh stays at standford, then rodriguez has a great year at mich. harbaugh signs a new contract and he's stuck, waiting, and hoping he's still the "it" girl ( coach)

rcjh22 12 years, 8 months ago

fabio you can just shove that negativity up your..

sdoyel 12 years, 8 months ago

I see a domino effect: Sumlin to Cincy. Gill to Houston. Harbaugh to KU.... Stanford will get?

Ron_Kellogg 12 years, 8 months ago

I still say the next coach will be our own David Lawrence

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

tupperville seems like a man with a plan and a fine coach, problem to me is i'm not a big fan of coach's lobbing for a job and it would feel a little like getting retread tires for my 07 truck.

William James 12 years, 8 months ago

Everyone needs to calm down. Since Mangino was fired I've said we're gonna get Tuberville. Up until yesterday everyone was telling me I was dreaming, now someone is saying I'm too negative. I'm just telling everyone, Lew is not going to pass on Tommy Tuberville, no matter what the media or anyone on the blogs says.

Andy Tweedy 12 years, 8 months ago

Tommy Tuberville? No way! Him and his agent, Fabio, will work well somewhere, but his public cry for the KU job is just another out of work coach who needs work.

troutsee 12 years, 8 months ago

Getting Harbaugh would/will be huge. WHB is saying he has been offered 2.7 by KU and that Stanford has countered with 2.1 (supposedly coming from someone close to Harbaugh). I think Lew will go up a little. Getting Harbaugh would be a home run. He has connections to the NFL; he played in the NFL; his first coaching venue at unknown San Diego U was very impressive; in three years he has raised Stanford from the ashes. Personally, I think he will accept our offer.

Tuberville would also be huge, especially since he is defense oriented, but Harbaugh would be a grand slam.

Andy Tweedy 12 years, 8 months ago

Dennis Dodd asks why Harbaugh would come to KU, a lateral move. Well, an extra $1.25 million in pay might be a good reason. Stanford balked at the amount on his extension, which is one of the reasons he didn't sign the extension that is HALF of what KU is reportedly offering. Additionally, Harbaugh had a falling out with Michigan boosters when he criticized the academics in the Michigan athletic department. Not sure if he'll be the coach, but there are reasons to believe it's a possibility.

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

true that troutsee. i like our ol' troll....er lew, i trust him to do the best for the program...also as a long time k.u. football fan i fired up that the fan base cares! rock chalk!

colohawk2814 12 years, 8 months ago

My concern with Mr. Perkins' approach is the real possibility we lose committed recruits on the front end and the next coach does not impress those that are left on the board to pick anything up on the back end.

I sometimes get the feeling this enitre process is more about stroking Lew's ego than it is about the end result -- getting a great coach. Tuberville? I don't know enough to say one way or another but it appears the guy understood his weakensses well enough to make signifincant steps to improve his performance. In business you can't ask for much more, self awareness and the willingess to improve, not to mention a pretty good track record.

justinryman 12 years, 8 months ago

Oh so its OK for Harbough to take an OK Stanford team to a sub .500 team and make them an OK team for one season, but for Gill to take a bad team and get them better each and every year til this year, its not OK?? Whats that all about????

Tubberville sounds like he took a page out of the Houston Nutt playbook by putting his own name in the mix, nice move, way to make yourself available.

Im not sure who we get, I just hopw he's a stand-up person, a good coach and someone who will be here in 5 to 8 years running a good winning program that is winning the Big 12.

qrex 12 years, 8 months ago

Has Harbaugh been successful as a coach? I am not sure why making it to the Sun Bowl in his most successful season makes him so desirable. I am trying to understand Lew logic. He knows the choice will be compared to Mangino. I understand forgetting KU's bad football history, looking past the fear of regression, and wanting to move up to the next level, but what does Harbaugh bring to the table?

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

again, dodd is a tool and a m.u. grad. he'll muddy the waters at any given chance to try to make us ( free-staters) look bad. rock chalk!

William James 12 years, 8 months ago

It's smarter to let this guy get away now then next year when Michigan comes calling. If you really think Michigan wont hire him because of a quote a few years ago your living in a fantasy. The only way Michigan wont hire him is if he is struggling so much that he convinces Michigan he is not a good coach. Lew wont put us in a Bob Huggins type situation for a 17-19 coach. We arent desperate.

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

forever? geeezz that sounds like a long time. michy won't do a one and done coach. and if they do it will cost em' win, win.

actorman 12 years, 8 months ago

Qrex, if you had seen the shape Stanford was in when Harbaugh got there and how quickly Harbaugh has turned things around, you wouldn't be asking. The year before Harbaugh got there they were 1-11! They were in even worse shape than KU was under TA. And it's not just that they've gone 8-4 this year, it's that they've been competitive practically since his first day on campus. Add in the connections he has in the NFL and it would be a no-brainer. But if you want to go by a winning record, how about the fact that in three years at that football powerhouse San Diego University, he went 29-6, including 11-1 in each of his last two years. Believe me, if KU got Harbaugh you would end up being thrilled with the choice.

Of course, all the rest aside, when you talk about him being compared to Mangino, I think it's safe to say that he probably wouldn't be screaming obscenities at any parking officers or secretaries. And if you want to just talk about on-the-field decisions, he probably wouldn't be going for two with a 30-5 lead and then blowing the game, or blasting the ball out of the end zone with a 4th-quarter 7-point-lead when kicking off at the other team's 40-yard-line.

qrex 12 years, 8 months ago

If Harbaugh doesn't have an extreme temper, why are the Ravens expecting a penalty because of his actions at Monday night's game?

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/12/harbaugh_expects_penalty_for_brothers_actions.html

Brett Marsteller 12 years, 8 months ago

Well said actorman! Hit the nail on the head!

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

temper shmemper, mangino was fired because he refused to glad hand the alumni, and raise support. + the fact that there was a real possiblity he could croak at any given moment on the side-line, and nobody would want to see that... well almost nobody.

justinryman 12 years, 8 months ago

Actorman, Sounds like the same argumetn could be made for Gill and what he did for a Buffalo team that was a Div-2 ragdoll and a team that teams used as a beatdown beofre he got there. I know your arguement, MAC vs PAC 10. But wit hthe talent level and what he had to work with they did the same thing in about the same amount of time. Either would be a good choice. The real question is who will be here longer on thier own accord? By that I mean who would use the job as a stepping stone?

Chris Weaver 12 years, 8 months ago

I've thought all along that harbaugh would make a great HCJH on the hill - i just didn't know if he would take it - after convincing myself that he would - i am waiting anxiously for the result -

meanwhile http://www.kmbc.com/sports/21936583/detail.html says that the offer is on the table

and AM610 has reported that they are "negotiating the contract" thought to be in the 2.5 - 2.7 million dollar range.

i hope they close this!

Eurekahwk 12 years, 8 months ago

Stanford just smacked USC this year. So they are down right? Well, Oklahoma was down, and they kicked our #ss. I believe Toby Gerhart will run all over OU. You may see Stanford beat OU as well. Either way, if we come away with neither Harbaugh or Tuberville, Lew really screwed this one up.

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

Hope that Harbaugh is hired--that would be sweet. He is a fun coach to watch on the sidelines. He'll win at KU, if he gets the job.

By the way, nijayhawk, I wonder if Bo Pelini gets an extra $20,000 for chewing BIG RED chewing gum!

justinryman 12 years, 8 months ago

"http://easyuri.com57.c1b" further reports that the offer is on the table and just needs to be signed.

Marcia Parsons 12 years, 8 months ago

Lew says no offer has been made. Unless he is honoring his word to the prospective coach that he will say nothing in advance, the radio stations are just reporting the same baseless rumors we get here. It's also possible that a bowl-bound coach will ask that the announcement be delayed until his bowl game is over. In Stanford's case that's 12/31. It will be a strain on our recruits, but they aren't signing letters now, are they? There's a chance we might get some back. In any case, the right coach is more important than a couple recruits who may or may not pan out.

Seth Peattie 12 years, 8 months ago

david lawrence as head coach? you're an idiot. the majority of you are small-minded clowns. look at this. IGNORANT IDIOT. ridiculous that i have to share being a Jayahwk with this jackass.

qrex (anonymous) says... Has Harbaugh been successful as a coach? I am not sure why making it to the Sun Bowl in his most successful season makes him so desirable. I am trying to understand Lew logic. He knows the choice will be compared to Mangino. I understand forgetting KU's bad football history, looking past the fear of regression, and wanting to move up to the next level, but what does Harbaugh bring to the table?

what do you bring to the table, clown?

justinryman 12 years, 8 months ago

Im guessing that Harbaugh dosent want an announcement made until after the Heisman announcemtent is made therefore not overshadowing Gerhart, but thats just my opinion, that is if Lew offered Harbaugh the position. There are other candidates still out there.

For recruiting sakes Lew needs to make the announcement this Sunday.

eddiesuttonschoolofdriving 12 years, 8 months ago

Stanford was so horrible before Harbaugh that UC Davis beat them, a team new to division one. He has done a great job - smoking USC is no small feat - carries a wow factor for recruits and donors, which begets even better facilities. He would be a great hire to raise the bar even if he is only here three years. Gill or Tuberville would be quality hires, but lack the glitz Perkins wants for the program. Hard to lose out with any of these three.

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

Sunday would be good! If Harbaugh is hired, he could be re-introduced during the Michigan @ KU BB game, Dec. 19th, which is an 11 am (CST) start, on ESPN. That would be a little bit of irony.

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

forget recruitting, what we lose will be gained back x2 with the right hire. rock chalk!

actorman 12 years, 8 months ago

justinryman, you make some good points about Turner Gill, and unilke some of the others here I think Gill would be a good hire as well. I also think it would be good that he's African-American. I realize that the un-PC crowd will be up in arms at the thought of me saying that, but it's criminal that there are virtually no African-American coaches in Division I, and I would be proud of KU if they took that step -- without sacrificing the quality of the program, of course.

jayhawkox 12 years, 8 months ago

I think if we come into next week with either Harbaugh or Tuberville it's safe to say that Lew has done his job and taken us miles ahead of where any of the talking heads were saying KU football could be when this all went down. Either coach, in my opinion, would be a home run. I also don't believe that a coach will up and leave a good thing for his alma mater just 'cuz, there's no basis for that, and Lew's smart enough to not lock up a coach to a contract that he has significant fears of having to struggle to keep just one year down the line. If the Harbaugh rumors are true, Lew hit it out of the park with this coaching search. That said, if the Harbaugh rumors aren't true and he doesn't come, if Lew can get Tommy Tuberville to the Hill, he still hit a home run, but maybe it's a tape-measure homer, to continue the metaphor, just because Tuberville's been out of coaching for a year and has put his own name in the ring so it doesn't have that "drew a coach away from another fairly big program" allure to it. However, Tuberville is one helluva coach, and we should all be impressed with the job that Lew has done the last few years from a facilities and positioning standpoint that we would even have the attention of someone of his esteem. Hire either guy, and any alum, booster, or fan who isn't satisfied would have to have the last name 'Mangino' to make any sense in their arguments. Both coaches are esteemed, excellent coaches and both are substantial upgrades from anything KU's ever seen on the sidelines of the gridiron.

qrex 12 years, 8 months ago

LAJayhawk5, was I talking about your dad or something?

I still fail to see what is so appealing about Harbaugh other than he is skinnier than Mangino. Honestly, I am surprised that Tuberville expressed any interest, but his coaching resume (5 SEC Division Titles) is head and shoulders above Harbaugh's.

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

Harbaugh is young--Tuberville is old--but don't tell that to Papa Paterno.

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

why is gill the bridesmaid and never the bride? 1. not ready? 2. giving him an interview gets the black coaches association off your back? 3. born again christain who wears is faith on his sleeve? if 1. or 2. thats bull-s. if 3. well i got a little sick of tebows bilble verse eye black thing.( frickn' mormoron )

jayhawkintx73 12 years, 8 months ago

Lets see, what did Mangino do in his third season? We know that the record over 7 years was barely higher than .500. His third season I believe was the 6-6 year when they rallied to beat Iowa State to become Bowl Eligible and then beat Houston at the Ft. Worth Bowl. Sun Bowl vs Ft. Worth Bowl? Stanford beating USC and Kansas never beat OU or Texas under Mangino. Harbaugh's resume actually looks better than Mangino's if you compare apples to apples.

justinryman 12 years, 8 months ago

gratefulhawl, there is a HUGE difference between Gill and Tebow. Tebow spouts it off, Gill lives by it. He teaches by it but never throws it in your face. If Tebow makes you mad by it, liek he does most of us, then Gill will not bother you, perhaps its something else. Heck I thought Kansas was a Free state, it seems pretty closed to me with all the post lately. Open up.

truefan 12 years, 8 months ago

I am very pleased with all of the remaining candidates.

  1. Harbaugh - good record, proven program builder, giant killer
  2. Tuberville - 5 time SEC champ, says that he's been studying the game since he resigned.
  3. Holtz - proven program builder, say hello to ESPN exposure every week as his dad (Lou) talks up the Hawks.
  4. Gill - program builder, fierce recruiter, ties to the Big XII (especially Texas), class-act

Bring any of these guys to Kansas and we will be celebrating bowl victories again very soon.

truefan 12 years, 8 months ago

P.S. - we should be staying positive. I know we all have our favorites, but these are all great coaches.

troutsee 12 years, 8 months ago

To me it's a slam dunk. Hiring Harbaugh will be a giant coup. He has star status. He's the hottest thing out there right now. His hire would literally change the face of Kansas football.

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

truefan--

I agree--all good coaches. Both Harbaugh and Tuberville would grab attention all across the USA. Holtz and Gill may not be the glittery names on the marquee but I trust that Lew knows what he is doing if any of those two are hired. The suspense is killing me!

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

i believe in the first amendment, what a don't believe in is any person that uses a bully pulpit ( national television, celebrity or office) to advance his or her spritual beliefs. my question was why is Gill always mentioned (runner-up to auburn last year) for a job but never hired?

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

gratefulhawk--

Good point--now, that you ask that last question you made, that is something to think about.

Brad Avery 12 years, 8 months ago

NBC sports is reporting that if Harbaugh turns the job down, the 2nd choice will be Bret Bielema, the Wisconsin head coach. The interest is said to be mutual.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/source-bielema-an-option-for-kansas/

Dillon Davis 12 years, 8 months ago

Check this out boys (and girls).

http://sportsradiokc.com/breakingnews_Harbaugh_121109.html

We got him!!! Doesn't want to announce it because he wants the weekend to be focused on his RB Gerhart. Lew is probably obliging him by not releasing anything either. This will be a great couple years for KU football.

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

bielema? i've got em' in the number 65 slot on my short list....

Andy Tweedy 12 years, 8 months ago

Dang, grateful. What are the other 64? Just curious, since it all the rumors do, at times, seem to be getting that deep into the list of candidates. But I don't agree with your assessment...that's way too high for Bielema!

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

I can't believe it!!!!! Wow!!!!! If this is true, is this a grand slam by Lew?

gratefulhawk 12 years, 8 months ago

i say, i say, that wuz a joke son.... as is sportsradiokc... out.

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

KAKE-TV, in Wichita, is reporting that Stanford's Jim Harbaugh, will be flying into Lawrence this weekend to make an announcement--the deal is worth 2.7 million.

KUBlue0809 12 years, 8 months ago

ROCK..........CHALK...........JAY.......HAWK..............KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Harbaugh and Self will light Lawrence, The Big XII, and the country on fire! IN LEW WE TRUST! Damn he is good!

Mike Kendall 12 years, 8 months ago

If Jim is the man, hope it is more than two years!!!! First order of business--settle some scores with K-State and Mizzou. Second order of business--take us to a bowl game. Lastly, make us forget Mangino's last season.

Dirk Medema 12 years, 8 months ago

Lew is blowing a legalese smoke screen. What exactly does "offer" mean? If you are negotiating a contract, is that different than offering a job? My guess is that Lew would answer yes, and that is fine with me. He doesn't need to answer to me or anyone else out here. Say as little as possible publicly, and maintain your position of strength.

The great news is that there are many great options for Lew to negotiate with, and each has plenty of strengths (check out www.rockchalktalk.com for a great series of article discussing the various options).

Anybody will have warts according to the naysayers, whiners, interlopers, but Lew will do us right. It is good to be a Jayhawk, and that is even without remembering that we have the top ranked BB team.

Rock Chalk

djhawk75 12 years, 8 months ago

Justinryman, you made a good point to compare Harbaugh's record w/ Gill's. The concern I've had with Gill as a candidate was his lack of experience and, consequently, his lack of success. But Harbaugh has the same issue.

I would interview Tuberville since he has expressed interest in the job. He has had much more success than either Harbaugh or Gill. I'd be happy w/ Nolan Cromwell also, with is long NFL experience. The only rumored candidacy that made no sense to me was Randy Edsall's. It would be as lateral a move as head coach could take.

Dan Harris 12 years, 8 months ago

In the short run I think Harbaugh would be a slam dunk. For long term success however I think Tuberville would be a better choice because I can see him staying for the long term and not bolting for a better school in 2or 3 years like Harbough will.

Dave Coen 12 years, 8 months ago

While my personal favorites are Larry Fedora, Holtz or Harbaugh, I have complete confidence in Lew Perkins, the best Athletic Director in the nation. He will get us the best coach available.

floridajayhawks 12 years, 8 months ago

I agree with some that if Rich fails next year at Michigan, Lew will be throwing money away. MU will come after JH, so there better be something in the contract.

troutsee 12 years, 8 months ago

"MU will come after JH." What the heck does that mean? Like he would even consider MU after becoming headcoach at KU! Come on! Where is your logic?

Also, if Harbaugh has designs on Michigan, he will most likely insist that such a clause be built into his contract (just like Lou Holtz did with his Minnesota contract....Lou had a Notre Dame clause in his Minnesota contract). If Harbaugh insists on a "Michigan" clause, that would be a huge red flag and would probably make Lew back off and consider other options, like having a buyout in his contract for early departure, Tuberville, etc.

troutsee 12 years, 8 months ago

Whoops by MU you meant Michigan and not Missouri. My bad.

KU 12 years, 8 months ago

If Lew is really onto Harbaugh, it's not because Lew thinks Harbaugh is the best COACH available. Lew looks at things a little differently than we do.

Remember when Lew paid Mangino $2.3 million after one Orange Bowl season? Did Mangino deserve that kind of money? No. Hell no! Lew paid him to send a message to the college football world that KU is ready to buy a top tier football program. Every college coach in America was put on notice that KU is now a player.

Lew knew then that Mangino probably wasn't capable of taking KU to the next level. So now comes the next stage in Lew's grand scheme. He looks around the nation and identifies the Hottest Coach In America and makes a run at him to send the message to college football that KU can get "the man"....not "KU's man". That is a huge shift from the days of hiring Terry Allen and Mark Mangino!

Well, there is one more reason Lew is attracted by Harbaugh, and it may be the most important in Lew's eyes. Lew needs more money to keep fueling his dream of a top tier football program so he came up with the Gridiron Club to funnel more donor money into KU football. He brought in Gale Sayers to sell it. The problem is, Lew overestimated Sayers' cache and didn't foresee a 7 game losing streak, so the Gridiron Club is on life support. Lew knows the head football coach is the face that sells the Gridiron Club, so Harbaugh is a perfect fit: he's handsome, energetic, articulate and has a glitzy PLAYING resume that will turn on the donors....and the donors' wives.

If Harbaugh is successful at selling the Gridiron Club for 2 years and then moves on to Michigan (and let's face it, Harbaugh ain't movin' up unless he has some success on the field at KU), Lew will have accomplished his objectives. At that time, Lew will just go back to the drawing board and make another run at the new Hottest Coach In America.

ack 12 years, 8 months ago

Ditka , Gale Sayers, and John Riggins good PR for KU and recruiting... They love football and would love to support a growing program..Sayers is already on-board.

Harbaugh/HC-- Gill /OC????? Osborne/HC-- Gill/OC????? Tuber/HC--- Gill/OC ??????

Lew P. is a smart guy --hopefully we will see him make the right decision-- -Rock Chalk Jayhawk KU...

Larry Ewart 12 years, 8 months ago

Do you think that Jim Harbaugh considers the KU fb job a destination job? Hell, no! He has ties to Michigan, NFL, etc. We have an opportunity to land a proven coach who will consider this a destination job, Phillip Fulmer. Let's see, name the coaches we are considering who have won a national title? Most of the people on this blog consider age as a factor. That is because most of you are under 40 and you think life is over at 60. Div I fb is about having a charismatic coach who can make good decisions, has recruiting contacts nationwide, and can deal with the media in a positive manner. Fulmer has the right qualities plus will bring a staff from the SEC who will raise our level of play immensely. The staff are the ones who coach up the players, will most of you ever get that! With Fulmer we can rest assured that this will be his final job and therefore will mentor our next coach. Think long term here! Please!

Randy Eakin 12 years, 8 months ago

Harbaugh is not coming to KU...not even for $2.7M. Perkins will not get his guy.

Phoggin_Loud 12 years, 8 months ago

First of all, it seems like multiple media sources are reporting the same source on Harbaugh. Just because many outlets scream the same rumor doesn't always make it true. Second, Stanford was not a horrible program before Harbaugh. Does anyone remember Ty Willingham? He had a similar run at Stanford and was hired by Notre Dame. Ty was the "hottest name" going at the time. He was run out of ND. The hot coach with huge upside doesn't always pan out. (see also: Hawkins @ Colorado) Tuberville is a slam-dunk. Third point, it is December and KU b-ball is 8-0 and #1 in the country. Here we are talking football. Wow!! Finally, We are "Hawk fans. There is no need for name-calling other posters. You don't have to agree, but we are better than that. RCJH

KU 12 years, 8 months ago

buckys1.......This isn't about the best coach, in Lew's eyes. I would much prefer Tuberville to Harbaugh if this were about coaching ability. And of course, your man Fulmer has a better track record as a coach than Harbaugh, too.

This is about "star power" (I don't get why Harbaugh is a rock star, but 'they' say he is) and the ability to raise money for the Gridiron Club. Once the Gridiron Club is up and running, I figure that project will single-handedly be able to fund the huge salary for KU's football coaches into the future.

If you can afford pay Top 10 money, your program will ALWAYS be relevant for some of the top coaching talent in the country.

Larry Ewart 12 years, 8 months ago

Harbaugh has no clue to raising money for a project such as the Gridiron Club. Fulmer has been there and done that. This university deserves more than an up and coming coach who will move on when the right job comes along. Tommy T. is an outstanding coach but I would rather take my chances with Fulmer. He already has a staff pretty much put together when someone offers a job to him.

KU 12 years, 8 months ago

buckys1.......I agree it shouldn't be "style over substance", but that's probably what Lew is banking on, literally.

Of course, we're all assuming these rumors about Harbaugh are true. Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Time will tell. We should know tonight or tomorrow at the latest if it's Harbaugh.

I'm still holding out for Tuberville. I haven't heard anything about Fulmer linked to KU. I'm not sure if you'll get any traction there.

areyouserious 12 years, 8 months ago

Fulmer interviewed with Lew this week. There is plenty of traction. He is a great fit and like buckys1 said, he is proven at the highest college football level and has a staff ready to rock.....oh and he does have ties to some KU donors....as well as familiarity with the state from his time at Wichita St. Harbaugh is the sexy pick, Fulmer is the smart pick.........lets not make the same mistake that Mizzou made when they hired Quinn Snyder over Bill Self!!!! Age does not matter unless the guy is like 80 years old......look at Penn st. and Kst.

areyouserious 12 years, 8 months ago

Fulmer does not require a buyout either!!!!

KU 12 years, 8 months ago

Where did you see that Fulmer interviewed with Lew? Not saying it didn't happen, but I haven't seen anything on that. Give me some backup, please.

babyjay1 12 years, 8 months ago

Stanford message board is really hating their AD right now for possibly letting Harbaugh get away...

Kyle Helmer 12 years, 8 months ago

Harbaugh released a statement that he is not going to KU and the Stanford AD said he has signed his extension. On to the next false rumor....

Hawkrock11 12 years, 8 months ago

http://810whb.com/article/2351

810 is about as reliable as my Grandma telling me this so take it with a grain of salt.

areyouserious 12 years, 8 months ago

KU, Fulmer was interviewed in NY on Monday....this is coming from a very reliable source in the Fulmer Camp, no need to reveal the source......and I know you have no reason to believe me, but I know for fact he was interviewed. Take it for what its worth. Looks like he will be the next option if the Harbaugh thing doesnt go through!

KU 12 years, 8 months ago

Here's the Harbaugh press release from the AP:

http://www.seattlepi.com/cfootball/2060ap_fbc_t25_stanford_harbaugh.html

That could mean: 1) He's really committed to Stanford, or 2) He's just trying to leverage his position to get more money out of KU.

Until KU has a coach signed, we have to take all these press releases with a grain of salt.

KU 12 years, 8 months ago

areyouserious......I wouldn't be opposed to Fulmer. He's got a great track record. I just hadn't really considered him because I haven't heard anything linking him to the job.

areyouserious 12 years, 8 months ago

Personally I think Fulmer or Tubberville would be GREAT hires. Harbaugh would be ok, but i still think he is the sexy pick and not the smart pick!

Hawk1969 12 years, 8 months ago

Ok, Harbaugh has reportedly pulled his name out of the hat....NEXT!

Larry Ewart 12 years, 8 months ago

I can assure you that Fulmer is being considered. Whether he actually was intereviewed while in NY, well, I was not there but I bet it happened. Why do you think all the Coaches attend that conference and award ceremony? We have just got to do the right thing here. You do not have that many chances for two coaches such as Fulmer and Tuberville to be waiting in the wings to take on a job such as this one. I have been told that they are down to two individuals Harbaugh and an unnamed individual whose name has not been out there that much in the blogs. This is better than a Robert Ludlum spy novel!

Jeff Coffman 12 years, 8 months ago

When I heard all of the names, I was really scared we were backtracking with names like Gill, Davis, and Brewster.

Than things started to spring a little with names like Sumlin and Edsall (same guy rumored to have turned down the ND job).

Finally real candidates started taking note with Holtz and Nutt.

I'm estatic to see that they weren't even the ones seriously considered. We are talking Fulmer, Tubberville, and Harbough. Most thing Harbough is offered, but most think he will stay at Stanford.

I actually think we will end up with Tubberville or Fulmer, which were my favorite two anyways. Tubberville has been defensive minded, which is big. We definitely have seen a shortage in defense. Fulmer has a resume bigger than all of our coaches combined in KU History. Either one of these would get people talking about KU Football.

As a side note, with Holtz at least Lou Holtz on national TV would never pick against KU ever again (similar to what he does for ND).

Hawk1969 12 years, 8 months ago

KU, I agree about taking these press releases with a grain of salt. While the ongoing coaching search at KU is like a rollorcoaster ride, I'm not going to get too wrapped up in a process that I have absolutely no control over.

It would be nice to have a coach named by Monday, but let the process play out. Until I hear Perkins say "so and so is the new football coach of the University of Kansas" I'm going to enjoy a very promising basketball season. There are more than a few quality candidates for the job at KU, so let's all be patient and let the chips fall where they will.

Rock Chalk Jayhawks, Go KU!

troutsee 12 years, 8 months ago

Agree with many of the posters above. What Lew is trying to demonstrate here is that KU will be a major player in college FB. We finally have the support all the way from the top.

Thus, Gill fades while Harbaugh, Fulmer, and Tuberville rise. Of those 3, Harbaugh seems to be the hottest. I am not worried about his coaching ability. He took a nothing program at San Diego U and turned it into an instant winner. He brought Stanford from the ashes in a span of just 3 years. He would be my number 1 pick. Several days ago I thought the Harbaugh rumor was far fetched. Now I think it could become a reality. In fact, I'll be surprised if he says "no." On the other hand, if he does say no and if we can land Fulmer or Tuberville, we would all be smiling.

mahkmood 12 years, 8 months ago

Think about it... would YOU want to coach under an AD that will settle for nothing but greatness at a school that is not traditionally a football powerhouse, in one of the toughest conferences, knowing that the AD will do anything in his power to force you out - even publicly ruin your reputation instead of handling matters in private - if you have a bad year despite going 12-1 two years prior?

If I was a great coach I wouldn't want to work for Lew in the situation at KU. I don't like Lew. I don't believe in the philosophy of getting things done at any cost because that is "just business". What he did to Mangino was wrong. It's not so much the firing of Mangino - although I do still question that - but it is the way Perkins did it. He totally ruined Mangino's reputation nationally. Coaching is Mangino's career. He severely damaged a man's career and name. He didn't have to do that. He could have handled the matter privately and still fired Mangino w/o ruining his reputation (and I KNOW Mangino was not innocent - that's not the issue), but that brings me to my point.

Lew is probably going to have a more difficult time getting what he wants because of the way he treats people. His only hope is to buy people. Buy them out. Buy them in. Tom Osborne is what a great AD looks like because Osborne is a great man with great character. Perkins is a shady character and I guarantee the coaching network knows that. I still want Perkins gone from KU because of how he treats people. If people seem to think it is ok to boot Mangino because "he did what needed to be done, but now we need something better" then I say the same should apply to Lew. He helped us improve our facilities. Now we need something better. KU deserves better than Lew Perkins.

We'll see if I'm wrong, but I don't think Lew will hire Turner Gill because Gill is a man of good character and ethics. Gill knows there is more to life than 'the bottom line' and pushing people around to get what you want. I saw a video clip someone posted about Gill. In that clip Gill says, "Hiring someone is deeper than just wins and losses." and, "I'm not in it for money, I'm not in it for fame, I'm in it to teach." I have a hard time believing Lew would hire a man like Gill. We'll see. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4530699

jhokfan 12 years, 8 months ago

mahkmood:

Osborne was a great coach but not a man of great character. Way too many players in jail during his tenure. Both Osborne and Paterno were given too much credit during the 90’s as the ideal coaches but when push comes to shove, both did what they had to do in order to win. Give him credit for being a good coach but let’s not deify him.

troutsee 12 years, 8 months ago

Mahkmood get over it. We're tired of hearing your rants against Lew and your pessimism. Most of your posts are full of emotion and short on logic.

areyouserious 12 years, 8 months ago

Mahkmood-
are you related to mangino? i 2nd troutsee.....get over it. lew did the right thing here. mangino brought this on himself by not handling things the way you suggest.....with character. why are we still talking about mangino???

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