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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Five freshmen could forego red shirts

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Of the 26 true freshmen listed on the Jayhawks' preseason roster, at least five could forego a red-shirt season, Kansas football coach Mark Mangino said Monday.

In addition to Daymond Patterson, Mangino mentioned Corrigan Powell (listed No. 2 at the right cornerback spot behind Chris Harris), Darius Parish (No. 2 at right defensive tackle) and tight end Tim Biere as true freshmen who have the potential to play immediately this season.

The coach reserved his highest praise, however, for Ben Lueken, a 6-foot-6, 300-pound offensive lineman out of St. Louis' Chaminade High.

"We haven't decided exactly (what to do with him yet)," said Mangino. "If we have a need to play Ben, we'll play him. If not, we'll red-shirt him. But what he's done in training camp is hard to overlook, and he may be ready to contribute now."

Comments

Dirk Medema 13 years, 11 months ago

"If there is a need" a 4th yr Sr going to the NFL sounds better than a 4th yr Jr leaving early (ala AC).

jayhawk1996 13 years, 11 months ago

One freshman = "freshman"More than one freshman, as in "Five freshman could forego red shirts," = freshmenYour copy editing bill is in the mail, boys.

hometownhawk 13 years, 11 months ago

He means assuming the other 2 freshmen redshirt, there would only be one remaining TE not redshirting (2-1=1), if Dedeaux or Steward gets injured. I'm sure that if there are no injuries and the 2 "upperclassmen" perform, they will keep the redshirt on, but you can always take it off if necessary.

KU 13 years, 11 months ago

Not sure what you mean when you say we'd be down to 1 tight end if Biere redshirts. If you will recall, KU stole him out of Nebraska's backyard even though we had a Kansas kid--Tanner Hawkinson--who was highly regarded already signed. Then you also have another freshman in Nick Plato.

okjhok 13 years, 11 months ago

With Dedeaux and Steward, why would we need Biere to do anything this year?

justanotherfan 13 years, 11 months ago

Don't we use a three tight set on some goalline formations? Or have we done away with that since going to the spread? If we have a three tight formation, I could see Biere getting some time, since we don't have many other TE's. Also, if anything happens to either Dedeaux or Steward, we would be down to only 1 TE if we redshirt Biere.I am glad to see that we have at least a handful of recruits talented enough to come in and contribute immediately. That's a testament to the upgrade in recruiting that we have experienced.

justanotherfan 13 years, 11 months ago

I understand the wait and see approach, but I'd hate to burn a redshirt because of midseason injuries (and only get half a season out of a guy) when you could just play him from the start if he has the ability, giving him the full season of game action to develop.Besides, I'd rather have a true freshman's first action be at home in a blowout against Florida International than on the road in a tight game against Oklahoma due to injuries.

rhino11 13 years, 11 months ago

Don't we use a three tight set on some goalline formations? Or have we done away with that since going to the spread? If we have a three tight formation, I could see Biere getting some time, since we don't have many other TE's. Also, if anything happens to either Dedeaux or Steward, we would be down to only 1 TE if we redshirt Biere.I am glad to see that we have at least a handful of recruits talented enough to come in and contribute immediately. That's a testament to the upgrade in recruiting that we have experienced.-------We use three tackles, not three tight ends. Most teams go with three TEs though. I think they'll play wait and see, same with Leuken. If a TE or OT goes down, expect the redshirt to be burned.

Billy Derringer 13 years, 11 months ago

save him whats better 1st year freshman or 5th year senior ?

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