KU men’s basketball team lacks depth

By Gary Bedore     Nov 1, 2002

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Kansas basketball coach Roy Williams responds to a question. Williams and KU seniors Nick Collison and Kirk Hinrich attended the annual Big 12 Men's Basketball Media Day on Thursday in Dallas.

? Neither ghosts nor goblins, ax murderers nor bumps in the night scare Roy Williams.

A lack of depth on his 15th Kansas University men’s basketball team, however, does.

“I will say we will play more zone this year more than my entire career to stay out of foul trouble and I despise it,” Williams said Thursday, giving a sometimes spooky assessment of his 2002-03 Jayhawks during the Big 12 Men’s Basketball Media Day on Halloween.

“Probably more than any time in my entire career unless something strange happens between now and Monday I’ll know who will be out there at the start of the game. There’s such a gap between those (starting) five and anyone else.”

Barring injuries in the next couple of days, Williams is sure to start his fab fivesome of Nick Collison, Kirk Hinrich, Aaron Miles, Wayne Simien and Keith Langford in a 7 p.m. Monday home battle against the EA Sports All-Stars. After that he has the unproven Jeff Hawkins, Michael Lee, Bryant Nash, Moulaye Niang and Jeff Graves to turn to.

You can bet the opening five will be running and gunning as they did last year in averaging a nation-best 90.9 points per game. But if KU gets in foul trouble, all bets are off.

“I really don’t know. I am hoping we can play the same way as last year. I still want to play fast,” Williams said.

“One hundred years ago when I played with Wilt it’s the way I wanted to play,” he quipped, making light of the fact one of his basketball campers this summer thought Williams coached the late Wilt Chamberlain. “Fans enjoy that style of play and players enjoy that. Can we do it with five guys only until we get somebody to step up? That is a good question.”

The substitutes have been inconsistent at practice.

“The crazy thing in practice one day we coaches will say, ‘Boy Jeff Hawkins had a nice practice today.’ The next day it’s Michael Lee; the next day, Bryant Nash,”’ Williams said.

“Jeff Hawkins one day really does a nice job putting pressure on the ball defensively. He can push it well and the next day he’ll make bad decisions. Bryant Nash will get to the offensive board and have a tremendous slam dunk follow and you’ll say, ‘Wow.’ Then the next two times he will not get to the board and he’ll turn it over.

“Michael Lee shows quickness in blocking a shot and you’ll say Michael is having a good practice then he’ll go the opposite way he is supposed to on a set play. Just the consistency of doing it on an everyday basis is what we’re looking for.”

Juco transfer Jeff Graves, meanwhile, still “is not officially a member of our team,” Williams said, indicating he’d talk about Graves when he “does become a member.”

Williams says the first 16 practices have lasted a bit longer than they will in coming weeks.

“We’re starting to (cut back) now,” Williams said. “We’re still trying to find that sixth or seventh person so we’ve probably gone a little longer and yet we’re still doing a great deal of teaching because four or five of the other guys are sophomores. We’re trying to build habits.”

And find players to contribute.

“Right now, I’d give it a tie to be honest,” senior guard Hinrich said of who’ll be the first off the bench Monday night. “I’d say probably a three-way tie between Michael, Bryant and Jeff Hawkins. They’ve all been impressive at times. I think Bryant has really improved since last year. He’s showing a better sense of how to play and play in our system.”

As for the new big men frosh Niang and junior Graves senior power forward Collison assessed, “They both have good days and bad days. Jeff will be able to play, I think, but it’ll take him a while to be able to go up and down a lot. Moulaye has been playing very hard. He’s really young, a little on the skinny side. He’s struggling with banging sometimes. They’ll both do a good job eventually.

“It’ll take a while for them (reserves) to get ready. There’s probably two or three of them who will step up, play a lot and do a good job. Hopefully we’ll be able to win some of those games early with guys who came back from last year and those guys will eventually improve. I think it’s just a matter of them getting comfortable with what we’re trying to do.”

Collison said Williams has been patient in trying to turn KU’s question marks into exclamation points.

“He’s trying to be patient with them. He knows we need them out there,” Collison said of the reserves. “He can’t get on them too much and have them scared to death to be out there. He’s doing a good job of bringing them along, giving them some confidence.”

KU Men’s Basketball Media Day: Graves in Williams’ doghouse

By Gary Bedore     Oct 11, 2002

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Jeff Graves, right, conducts a mock interview with Moulaye Niang, left, as Stephen Vinson looks on. The KU newcomers were off-limits to the press during Thursday's media day at Naismith Lounge.

Wearing Kansas University basketball jersey No. 42, big Jeff Graves posed for pictures at Thursday’s hoops media day at Allen Fieldhouse.

But, according to coach Roy Williams, Graves did so as an individual, not as a full-fledged player on the team.

“He is not officially a member of our team yet,” Williams said of the 6-foot-9, 280-pound junior college transfer, noting Graves would not play during tonight’s Late Night With Roy Williams midnight scrimmage.

Junior forward Bryant Nash, who is recovering from a broken thumb and will be evaluated by doctors today, also may not play. Senior guard Kirk Hinrich, who has a hip pointer, also may sit out.

“He (Graves) has not passed either of the running tests yet. Probably too much has been said about him. I’ll just leave it at that,” said Williams, who criticized Graves earlier this semester for reporting to campus at a mammoth 293 pounds.

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Nick Collison (4) answers questions during KU's media day.

“I don’t like to talk about guys that aren’t on our team. You know Max Falkenstien is not our on team and I don’t like to talk about him, either,” the coach quipped of KU’s radio announcer. “When Jeff officially becomes a member of our team, we’ll talk more about him.”

Graves drew the ire of Williams for reporting out of shape. Graves completed just over five laps in the preseason 12-minute conditioning run at Memorial Stadium; players must complete 61â2 laps to pass.

Then in early September, the Lee’s Summit, Mo., native suffered a concussion in a car accident and has been cleared by doctors only to ride the stationary bike since.

“I don’t know,” senior forward Nick Collison said, asked how much he thought Graves could contribute this year if he passes the running tests. “He’s had a tough time since he got here with the car accident, not being able to play (pickup games).

“As of right now, he hasn’t really done anything with our team. Right now he’s done about as much as any other student. He hasn’t been able to, according to the doctors.”

Nobody was happy with Graves reporting to school at 293.

“Coming in the way he came in, it doesn’t make you as encouraged as you could be, is the way I’ll put it,” Collison said. “He’s definitely got a chance to do some things, but he’s going to have to start acting like he wants to do it. It’s kind of hard because the doctors are telling him he can’t do anything for now. It’s like there’s not much you can do.

“He’s got the biggest opportunity in the world. He’s got a chance to come into a team trying to win a national championship, minutes just waiting for him. He’s a big key that we need. To not do everything you could is disappointing. So hopefully he’ll be able to turn it around.

“He played at 255 last year. He came in at 293. Just looking at that, it’s kind of like, ‘How bad do you want it?’ That’s the question. I don’t know. It’s up to him, I guess.”

The Jayhawks are hoping for the best.

“I know he’s hungry,” sophomore forward Wayne Simien said. “I know he’s hurt and he’s been out. He’s taken a lot of abuse from people about not playing and they say he’s out of shape. I know he’s definitely hungry, and I hope he steps up to the challenge.”

“He’s been injured and stuff. Basically we’re waiting until he’s ready,” senior Kirk Hinrich said. “Hopefully it’s soon. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.”

Williams bemoaned the Jayhawks’ lack of depth.

KU has experienced players in seniors Hinrich and Collison, plus the sophomore group of Simien, Aaron Miles and Keith Langford. The other scholarship players are Nash, Graves, Michael Lee, Jeff Hawkins and Moulaye Niang. Christian Moody and Stephen Vinson are walk-ons. The coach said the team could add a walk-on or two following tryouts, which start Sunday.

Williams said the 6-10 Niang would not red-shirt.

“Moulaye is not a red-shirt candidate. If I red-shirt him, I’ve got to find a way to get C.B. eligible and make him 6-10,” Williams joked about administrative assistant C.B. McGrath, a former 6-foot point guard. “You don’t have to be a nuclear physicist to figure out Moulaye has got to play.”

Williams believes not only is KU not worthy of No. 1 preseason ratings, but believes Texas and Oklahoma, with more returning players, should be ranked ahead of KU in the league.

“I’m just shocked at that,” he said of top billings. “This is not some poor-mouthing by the coach. Usually when we are going to be pretty good I say, ‘Yeah, we are going to be pretty good.’ I never shied away from saying it. Hopefully Bryant Nash, Jeff Hawkins, Michael Lee some guys will be able to step up there and do some things for us.”

KU men’s basketball back from Hawaii

By J-W Staff Reports     Nov 25, 2001

A tired batch of Kansas University men’s basketball players and coaches made it back safely from Hawaii on Saturday.

The Jayhawks left Maui at 11 a.m., Hawaii time, Friday, (3 p.m., Central time), then headed to Honolulu for tourist stops at Pearl Harbor and Waikiki Beach.

After several hours in Honolulu, the team boarded a flight to Dallas at 7:45 p.m., Hawaii time, arriving in Dallas at 9:15 a.m., Saturday.

The Jayhawks, 2-1 after beating Houston and Seton Hall and losing to Ball State, made it to Kansas City International by 11 a.m., then bused to Lawrence. KU will resume practice tonight for the resumption of the schedule. KU will meet Pittsburg State at 7:05 p.m., Wednesday, at Allen Fieldhouse.

KU men’s basketball to hold walk-on tryouts

By Staff     Oct 5, 2000

Kansas University’s men’s basketball team will conduct walk-on try-outs in Allen Fieldhouse beginning at 10 p.m. on Sunday, Oct. 15.

Any KU student interested in participating should stop by the men’s basketball office (250 Wagnon Student Athletics Center) between Oct. 9-12 to fill out preliminary paperwork. They should also bring proof of health insurance and proof of a physical exam taken within the past year. Both items are needed in order to participate.

Students can receive physical exams at Watkins on campus.

Any questions should be directed to Ben Miller, Jerod Haase or C.B. McGrath in the basketball office (864-3056).

KU Men’s Basketball

By Staff     Aug 12, 2000

November

1 EA Sports California All Stars, 8:05 p.m (Jayhawk TV).

4 Emporia State, 8:05 p.m. (Jayhawk TV)

9-10 Coaches v. Cancer Classic, New York, v. UCLA, Kentucky or St. John’s.

17 North Dakota, 7:05 p.m. (Jayhawk TV).

20 Boise State, 7:05 p.m. (Jayhawk TV).

25 Washburn, 7:05 p.m. (Jayhawk TV).

27 Middle Tennessee State, 7:05 p.m. (Jayhawk TV).

30 Illinois State, 7 p.m. (Jayhawk TV).

DECEMBER

7 at Wake Forest, 6 p.m. (ESPN).

12 at DePaul, 8 p.m., Chicago United Center (ESPN).

16 Tulsa, 8:05 p.m. (ESPN).

23 at Ohio State, 3 p.m. (CBS).

30 Southwest Missouri State, 8 p.m., Kemper Arena (Jayhawk TV).

JANUARY

6 at Texas Tech, 8 p.m. (ESPN Regional).

13 at Oklahoma, Noon (ABC).

17 Nebraska, 8 p.m. (ESPN Regional).

20 Texas A&M, 3 p.m. (ESPN Regional).

22 at Colorado, 8 p.m. (ESPN).

27 Kansas State, 3 p.m. (ESPN Regional).

29 at Missouri, 8 p.m. (ESPN).

FEBRUARY

3 Texas, Noon (CBS).

5 Iowa State, 8 p.m. (ESPN).

10 Oklahoma State, 3 p.m. (ESPN Regional).

12 at Baylor, 8 p.m. (ESPN2).

17 at Iowa State, Noon (CBS).

21 Colorado, 7 p.m. (Jayhawk TV).

25 at Nebraska, 3 p.m. (ABC).

28 at Kansas State, 8 p.m. (ESPN Regional).

MARCH

4 Missouri, 1 p.m. (CBS).

8-11 Big 12 Tournament, Kansas City, Mo.

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