Examining the impact of signing Romeo Langford for his 3 finalists


Romeo Langford (9) in action during the Jordan Brand Classic high school basketball game, Sunday, April 8, 2018, in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Romeo Langford (9) in action during the Jordan Brand Classic high school basketball game, Sunday, April 8, 2018, in Brooklyn, N.Y.

During Sunday's broadcast of the Jordan Brand Classic, featuring KU signee Quentin Grimes and Kansas target Romeo Langford, Paul Biancardi, the national director for recruiting for the ESPN 100, mentioned briefly the fact that there were still a few unsigned players in the 2018 class who could change the recruiting rankings significantly before all is said and done.

Langford is by far the biggest mover in that group and his impact on whichever program signs him between KU, Indiana and Vanderbilt could be seismic.

Let's start with Kansas, since that's why pretty much all of you are here.

The Jayhawks currently rank 6th by in the 2018 standings, with 2,770 points spread out among four players — two five-star prospects (Devon Dotson and Quentin Grimes), one four-star big man (David McCormack) and three-star guard Ochai Agbaji.

Without knowing exactly how the points are awarded, beyond the obvious fact that five-star players are worth more than four and so on down the line, it seems like a safe bet that adding Langford, who, at No. 6 overall in the class no doubt would be big points, could potentially move KU into the No. 2 spot in the 2018 team rankings.

That would give KU as many five-star players as anyone in the country other than Duke, which has four, and give Kansas as many total 2018 signees (5) as any program not named UCLA, which has six, currently in the Top 12.

Beyond that, the average star ranking for those five players in KU's 2018 class would jump slightly from 4.25 to 4.4, moving the Jayhawks ahead of UCLA (4.17) and behind only Duke (5), Kentucky (4.75), North Carolina (4.67), Vanderbilt (4.67), Oregon (4.5) and LSU (4.5).

Vanderbilt? How'd they pop in there? Well, consider that at least some of the reason why Langford is seriously considering the Commodores, who, with two five-star prospects and one four-star prospect in their 2018 class, currently rank eighth in the Rivals team rankings.

Landing Langford not only would give Vandy a player with serious star power, but it also would likely move Bryce Drew's program into the Top 4 of the 2018 team rankings and give the program arguably its best recruiting class of all time.

As is the case with KU, where Langford appears to be the missing piece for KU's stacked perimeter, adding the 6-foot-6, 190-pound New Albany, Ind., guard to a 2018 haul that includes five-star forward Simisola Shittu (6-9, 220, ranked No. 7 by Rivals), local five-star guard Darius Garland (6-1, 165, No. 18) — and four-star small forward Aaron Nesmith (6-5, 180, No. 68), would round out Vandy's 2018 class nicely.

And then there's Indiana, the local school in desperate need of a player who can put the Hoosiers back on the map and bring some of that shine back to Bloomington.

With four four-star players signed in the 2018 class, Indiana's recruiting under second-year coach Archie Miller is off to a strong start. But adding Langford, who has become a cult hero throughout the Hoosier State would be by far the biggest move Miller has made in his coaching career.

Beyond that, it also would likely send IU sky-rocketing in the 2018 team rankings, from its current spot at No. 21 potentially as high as Top 5 or 6, possibility even ahead of Kansas.

While we should know where Langford is headed in the next couple of weeks, it's clear that whichever program lands him will get a huge bump in just about every way imaginable — talent, scoring, odds of making a run during the 2018-19 season, exposure and, yes, even in the recruiting rankings.

Whether you're talking about KU jumping from No. 6 to No. 2, Vandy from No. 12 into the Top 5 or Indiana from No. 21 all the way up near Kansas, the impact of signing a player as talented as Langford is enormous no matter where you're starting or which players/program you're adding him to.


Patrick Wildman 11 months, 2 weeks ago

It appears we don't get any credit for the signing of Silvio in either the 17 or 18 rankings. Have you seen him on either list?

Jonathan Allison 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Since Silvio graduated in December 2017 and joined KU during the semester break he no longer counts as a 2018 recruit. There's really no reason for the recruiting services to go back and re-rank the 2017 class at this point, but probably none of them will leave him in consideration for the 2018 class rankings which is understandable because he will be a Sophomore next season.

If you look at this current recruiting class in light of the fact that Silvio should have been a part of it and we could land Langford, that's one heck of a class recruited by Bill Self.

Langford would be the first signs of any recruiting boost from the final four team. So we should expect some good recruiting interest in the fall for the 2019 class as well. One would expect that Bill Self's terrific coaching job last year along with the final four appearance would be good for recruiting... combine that with Bill Self's involvement with the USA U18 team this summer and we should have an advantage getting interest from some top recruits in the 2019 and 2020 classes.

Pius Waldman 11 months, 2 weeks ago

For information I read he no longer is visiting simply waiting until the end of the month to sign. That tells me he already has decided where to go. It also might mean he is waiting to see which players are going pro before a final decision. So unless he has pressure to stay in Indiana KU might be his choice.

Pius Waldman 11 months, 1 week ago

Well how about a prediction. I don't have any inside information just an idea. I believe Vanderbilt is out of the race. Pressure to stay at home is big. Going to KU is great play at Hawaii final four great TV game views. Signing at the high school probably signs Indiana. Dang hope I'm wrong.

Freddie Garza 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Frank Mason was the #76 ranked player in the class of 2013.

That should tell you all you need to know about these rankings.

11 months, 2 weeks ago

If Hagans were to reclassify, Kentucky would be the only school with five five-star recruits in 2018. He would join Keldon Johnson (No. 6), Montgomery (No. 16), Immanuel Quickley (No. 17) and Tyler Herro (No. 25) in the Wildcats' incoming group.

Matt Tait 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Right. But he hasn't reclassified yet and, therefore, can't be counted as a member of this year's class until he does.

Harlan Hobbs 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Before Silvio came in at mid-season, KU was ranked as high as #2 in recruiting classes. Therefore, if Langford were to sign with KU, that might vault them up to #2 again.

Of course, all of this just makes for good reading material. The bottom line is that KU will again be loaded next year with considerably more depth at every position. Whether that translates into more wins is anyone's guess.

We will definitely miss the leadership provided by Frank and Devonte over the past two seasons.

Matt Tait 11 months, 2 weeks ago

One might even say over the past three or four seasons, as those guys both led extremely well as underclassmen, too. But your point is taken and is right on the money.

Leadership and perimeter shooting will be question marks heading into 2018-19. Luckily for KU, they've got rock solid answers at pretty much every other spot, though.

Tony Bandle 11 months, 2 weeks ago

I guess the latest bombshell involving the possible ineligibility of De Sousa due to Adidas pay offs and thus negating Romeo's interest in KU makes all the previous posts moot. :(

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