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WKU transfer Mitchell Robinson to visit KU

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Kansas University basketball recruiting

Kansas University basketball recruiting

Kansas basketball coach Bill Self won't have much time to shake off whatever jet lag hits from his return from Italy to the United States this week, and it appears it will be important that he do so.

According to Matt Scott of 247 Sports site TheShiver.com, five-star Class of 2017 prospect Mitchell Robinson plans to make an unofficial visit Lawrence this weekend.

Robinson, a McDonald's All-American who recently left Western Kentucky after his godfather, a member of the WKU coaching staff, resigned and now the No. 8 player in the 2017 Class according to Rivals.com is looking for a new school.

Robinson, who is from Chalmette (La.) High, reportedly made an unofficial visit to LSU last weekend but did not commit, as some reports had indicated. Robinson told Shay Wildeboor of JayhawkSlant.com that the rumors of his commitment to LSU were not true and confirmed that he would visit KU this weekend.

At 7 feet tall, 220 pounds and with a ton of skill and athleticism, the opportunity to land a player of Robinson's caliber this late in the game is quite rare. However, landing him is only half of the battle for whichever program is fortunate enough to get him to town.

Because Robinson signed with and was enrolled at WKU this summer, he likely would have to sit out the 2017-18 season in accordance with NCAA transfer rules. There are some who believe he is exploring his options that might make him eligible to play immediately via some form of an NCAA waiver but the prospects of that, at least as of today, appear murky at best.

Still, getting Robinson to visit is a big step for the KU program, which could use help inside and has one scholarship available thanks to the unexpected departure of former William & Mary transfer Jack Whitman.

The Jayhawks still have a great deal of interest in Class of 2018 No. 1 prospect Marvin Bagley III, who may be trying to reclassify into the 2017 class, but how likely that outcome is also unclear.

Comments

Steve Jacob 2 months, 2 weeks ago

He took classes at WKU, so if he is eligible to play this season that opens up a whole Pandora's Box for the NCAA and basketball coaches that they do not want. And I have to bring up the guy just left the state and went home without telling anyone.

John Fitzgerald 2 months, 2 weeks ago

I agree. I guess it doesn't hurt to at least hear him out but I'd rather put all my time on a guy that hasn't had any issues or concerns. And I know our chances at getting Bagley are slim to none, but the dude is beyond impressive. Get him on campus and give him the biggest pitch that can be pitched. Self is a guru so he'll figure something out.

Craig Carson 2 months, 1 week ago

id like KU to land Bagley as well, but there is no sense in putting all the focus just on him..Robinson would be a great addition as well

John Fitzgerald 2 months, 1 week ago

I can understand that but Robinson was also suspended for disciplinary reasons. It could be as simple as him just leaving campus without telling anyone but I'm assuming we don't know the entire story. Anyways, does KU really want to deal with those issues with such short notice? I mean can they really get to know and trust this guy in a few short weeks? After last years issues I'd be very careful in pulling the trigger too quickly. At the end of the day it's not just about getting guys who can play the game, it's about getting guys who will represent the program in the right manner. Having said that though, and as I stated above, I'd at least hear him out.

Dirk Medema 2 months, 2 weeks ago

"the guy just left the state and went home without telling anyone"?

Are you sure? He might not have had a sit down chat with the HC like the one where he got talked into staying with WKU after the coaching change, but it was very much public knowledge.

"Took classes" translates to was on campus long enough to get a syllabus.

Jonathan Allison 2 months, 1 week ago

took classes translates into "was a student and on basketball scholarship"

Dirk Medema 2 months, 1 week ago

True. He definitely has to clear things up with the NCAA before he would be eligible. Took classes could also mean a lot more than he enrolled and left, not to mention the other ignorant smearing of his name.

Brett McCabe 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Well, he can take solace in the fact that Tom Herrman has to sit out a year before being allowed to coach at Texas, and the Misery bball coach has to sit out a year before coaching at that sh*thole, so at least he won't be alone in his frustration.

I think it's a good lesson to teenagers to allow the 30 and 40 and 50 and 60 year-old millionaires to do whatever they want, but have a different set of rules for the young, non-paid athletes. After all, calamity would ensue if we allowed 17 and 18-year-olds to change their minds. In fact, everyone should be required to sit out a year before they do anything different in their professional or academic lives. It'll build character.

John Fitzgerald 2 months, 2 weeks ago

I agree with this too, Brett. How can anyone see it's logical that a coach who leaves a school to coach another school gets to coach right away but a student transferring has to sit out a year? I'm assuming it has to do with the NCAA trying to avoid other schools constantly recruiting guys that are already on a team. All they need to do is slap a recruiting violation on a team if they are trying to recruit guys from other schools and they'll stop that. But if a guy wants to change schools before the season starts he should be allowed to play right away, simple as that. Only reason they should be forced to sit out is for academic or disciplinary reasons.

Titus Canby 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Great point Brett. I can't imagine a rule like that in the real world. And John's idea of slapping a recruiting violation on schools trying to recruit guys away is a good one. I wish there was a way to penalize agents and their runners for their tampering too.

Rob Chestnut 2 months, 2 weeks ago

These cases are sad for the kid. Coaches make choices or violate NCAA rules. Kids are tied to those choices and violations. I hope it does open a pandora's box on a system that is very flawed. Maybe some athlete empowerment will balance a system that offers 4 one-year deals in exchange for a loss of eligibility if the athlete decides it is a bad fit.

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Thanks Matt. When I read the initial reports I was hopeful he could join this year's team. Sounds like that is unlikely. Regardless, he would be a good get - his scouting report reminds me a lot of Joel Embiid.

Pius Waldman 2 months, 2 weeks ago

It looks like the player is a one and done player so if he shouldn't be allowed to play he will be eligible to go pro anyway. Remember Kanter from Kentucky no play but goes pro anyway. Maybe the NCAA should allow him to play if he meets qualifications and hasn't violated any rules

Craig Carson 2 months, 1 week ago

personally, Id love for KU to land him and for him to be available to play this year. Azibuike is going to be a monster, but the idea of him being the ONLY true inside big is frightening..if he is ever in foul trouble or just fatigued, KU is screwed....it isnt like KU has any other options at center. With Robinson, KU would have 2 quality bigs..that'd be the first time since Withey/TRob. But I think most likely he either wont commit or wont be able to play. Id love Bagley to come to KU, but the Hawks arent favored to land him. So we will see what happens

Mike Greer 2 months, 1 week ago

This is all so confusing, the "Stach" was on campus and worked out with the team, then decided he really wasn't going to see much playing time as there were already a line of players in front of him, so he can transfer and play without waiting a year. But Robinson, who was also on the WKU campus has to sit out a year even though the teams haven't had their season start? The NCAA really takes care of the athletes don't they?

I would think that if the NCAA lets him play he would commit to some school rather than AAU ball which I guess would be his other option.

Tim Orel 2 months, 1 week ago

True, but Whitman is not being penalized for changing his mind (after starting his graduate studies, I'd think), but Robinson is. If anything, Whitman, being the older player who has years of experience as a player, should be more penalized because he should have known better. Robinson had a change in coaches (yes, his father resigned/forced out) and usually if that happens the player can go play someplace else immediately. I guess not if they've taken classes on scholarship, but this, imo, stinks for Robinson.

RJ King 2 months, 1 week ago

Yes - I thought maybe MG was literally confused. I agree entirely with your points.

Mike Greer 2 months, 1 week ago

I understand the graduate transfer, well maybe I don't. Does that make him totally free from the NCAA rules? I thought it meant he could move to another school without sitting out, I guess I didn't know it meant he could change schools as often as he pleased with no penalty. Is there a point at which he can no longer change his mind? It would seem that up to some point either should have opportunity to change their mind and at some other point both should be committed to the one year rule. I suppose for me that would be prior to the first official practice or first NCAA colligate game of the season.

RJ King 2 months, 1 week ago

I thought you were literally confused. All very good questions - even if slightly rhetorical in nature.

Jonathan Allison 2 months, 1 week ago

It does seem like an abuse of the Grad transfer rule.

the rule is designed to be used by students seeking to enroll in a Grad program that isn't offered at their original school.

Whitman enrolled in a Grad program at KU that must not have been offered at William and Mary. So now if he wants to transfer to a new school does it have to be a school that offers a Grad program not offered at KU or W&M? Can he just transfer and play as many times as he wants all year until his eligibility is up? Can he transfer again in March to a team that is invited to the NCAA tourney?

Dillon Davis 2 months, 1 week ago

Even if he can't play this year and leaves for the 2018 Draft, he could still challenge everyone in practice. Just like Charlie Moore and the Lawsons will be doing. And there is still an outside chance we can get him eligible for this year and that would absolutely put us over the edge and help secure us that elusive Final Four trip and 2nd title under Self. Either way, he helps this year whether it's in practice or on the court. And with the news that LSU is no longer recruiting him, should mean we will secure a commitment by Monday.

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