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Mark Mangino back in the Big 12

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According to a report from Bobby LaGesse, of the Ames Tribune, Iowa State is poised to announce the hiring of former Kansas coach Mark Mangino as its new offensive coordinator under head coach Paul Rhoads.

A press conference is set for 4:30 p.m. today.

“I am beyond thrilled to welcome Coach Mangino to the Cyclone football family,” Rhoads said in a press release. “He has an imaginative offensive mind, an ability to play to his players’ strengths, a track record of winning and a tremendous familiarity with the Big 12 Conference. In terms of calling plays and executing a game plan, he is top shelf. He has learned from a ‘Who’s Who’ of college coaches, effectively led his own championship program and is respected throughout the coaching ranks.”

Mangino, who was the head coach at Kansas from 2002-09 and led the Jayhawks to a 12-1 record and Orange Bowl victory in 2007 while being named national coach of the year, spent the past year working at Youngstown State and has long been rumored to want back into coaching.

His Jayhawk teams were 50-48 overall, played in four bowls and won three. He is the only coach in KU history to win bowls in consecutive seasons (2007 and 2008). Kansas was ranked a school-record 19 straight weeks between 2007-08, set home attendance records five years in a row and produced the top three total offenses in school history.

He left Kansas as the result of an internal investigation into improper treatment of players carried out by former KU athletic director Lew Perkins. He spent three years out of coaching before returning to YSU, his alma mater, for the 2013 season.

Before coaching at KU, Mangino worked on Bob Stoops' staff in Oklahoma and also on the staff of Bill Snyder at Kansas State.

Mangino's first year back in the Big 12 also will signal a return to Lawrence as the Cyclones are schedule to play at KU on Nov. 8.

Stay right here for more on the move to bring Mangino back to the Big 12.

The following link takes you back to August, when Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan caught up with Mangino at Youngstown State.

Comments

Casey Osburn 5 years, 10 months ago

Congrats to the Fat Man. Always liked him, even if he had a bit of a temper. Next season's ISU/KU game will be interesting with Mangino back on the sidelines and our new (hopefully improved) offense on the field.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 10 months ago

I'm sure he'd love to stick it to the school that turned on him after all he did for it.

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

VERY interesting. Weis has three years left on his contract. Mangino will likely spend at least two seasons at ISU. Hmm...

Len Shaffer 5 years, 10 months ago

Completely disagree. Thank God it won't happen. Now if someone wanted to bring him back as an offensive coordinator, great, but not as a head coach.

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

This may come as no surprise, but I completely agree with myself. Cheerio!

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

IF MM can show some stability at ISU, that may give Kansas the out of saying he's been "reformed", having demonstrated no issues that were related to his firing.

Len Shaffer 5 years, 10 months ago

He never had any issues as an offensive coordinator before either, because he wasn't in charge. Better to leave it that way.

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

If MM demonstrates no issues during his stint at ISU that were similar to ones that led to his firing here, that may be just the excuse Kansas needs to bring him back at the end of Weis' tenure.

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

Sorry about the double comment. The first one didn't appear to post.

Michael Wattai 5 years, 10 months ago

It's happened before (i.e. Coach Fambrough)

Lance Cheney 5 years, 10 months ago

I asked this on another post, but I feel it's relevant here. When hiring Mangino's replacement, did KU pass on Charlie Strong, or did Strong pass on KU?

Matt Tait 5 years, 10 months ago

Strong was one of the hot candidates at the time but I don't think he or KU ever got too far down the road of mutual interest.

Now, when KU fired Terry Allen and hired Mangino, Strong actually interviewed for the KU job then but, obviously, Kansas went with Mangino.

Lance Cheney 5 years, 10 months ago

Didn't ISU hire Terry Allen after we fired him too? Sloppy seconds!

Cole Hogan 5 years, 10 months ago

Oh god, we are going to get absolutely slaughtered next year by ISU, Mangino is going to have a vengeance...

Brian Zachary 5 years, 10 months ago

We got slaughtered this year without him...

Ralph Gage 5 years, 10 months ago

Gotta hand it to Lew. He sure knew how to turn a program around.

John Randall 5 years, 10 months ago

I think you are both making the same point. both Roy and Mark had ADs they couldn't stomach &or vice versa. Thank heaven Lew only handled one of the transitions.

Robert Brown 5 years, 10 months ago

Good for Mark Mangino. Because of the missteps on coach selection after his firing, Mangino has been elevated to legendary status during his KU tenure. Finding a position in the Big 12 is interesting. I am sure he will be greeted warmly next year in Lawrence.

I guess it really shows the sad state of KU football over the last 45 years that a coach who has a conference record of 23-41 is so highly regarded. In retrospect, given that since he left our conference record is 2-33, his record doesn't look that bad!!

Kevin Randell 5 years, 10 months ago

Robert, thank you for pointing that out! Many people forget that there was word on the hill about him getting fired. Especially the year before the Orange Bowl season when he blew a 35-3 lead at Baylor and lost the game. Don't get me wrong. I am greatly appreciative for what he did for the program and wish him the best. Yes, did he get a raw deal on how he was let go?....yes. But like John mentioned in the next post. It is time to move on. There is NO reason why a team like DUKE, oh by the way is known for a "basketball school" can turn things around in a conference in ACC with teams like Florida State, Clemson, Miami, Virgina Tech, can't be successful? I am excited to see what the future holds for KU Football.

John Waszak 5 years, 10 months ago

Once again people, let's move on from Mangino. There's nothing to see here! Please go back and look at the year to year results. Specifically conference. One unbelievable year (with a great OC and DC). Otherwise, mediocre at best. And, while I'm at it, I'm tired of those that say give up on the football program, that Kansas won't ever be a football school. Tell that to Duke, K-State, BAYLOR?, there is a huge list of schools with traditionally far worse programs than ours and they seem to be doing something about it.

John Waszak 5 years, 10 months ago

True True. Anything would be amazingly better than the record since the big guy left. But, here are some numbers to look at the program objectively. If this was the resume on your desk would you really want to bring this person to build your program? The Hawks under Mangino were 50-48 overall in 8 seasons. ONLY 3 winning seasons. (don't go crazy about 4 bowls - really? most 6-6 teams get a bowl) Worse, they were 23-41 in conference with ONLY 7 conference road wins (4 during the magical Orange Bowl season). There was ONLY 1 +.500 conference season (again O Bowl season). And finally, 4 conference seasons with 0 conference wins. Just sayin...

Bryce Landon 5 years, 10 months ago

At this point I'll take "mediocre" over what we've had the last four or five seasons! Gladly! And the bowl game appearances that came with being "mediocre"!

John Waszak 5 years, 10 months ago

And that is the problem with Kansas football. The low bar that is set. Only wanting to be mediocre. Wow if only we set that goal for basketball. (sarcasm for those that can't hear my voice)

Justin Lindsley 5 years, 10 months ago

Mangino is not coming back to KU but he just might come back to the state of Kansas. Bill Snyder is no spring chicken. MM has ties to K-state. He may be biding time until the K-state job opens up and it will soon.

The question is...Can K-state swallow pride and hire a ex-jayhawk coach? They hired that train wreck Ron Prince, so anything is possible. However, I think that MM would be much better than Prince ever thought about being. How awful would that be to sit in Memorial and watch MM come in and pound us every other year?

Jack Jones 5 years, 10 months ago

Your first sentence is correct ~ unfortunately, your second is (unintentionally) a joke.

John Waszak 5 years, 10 months ago

I hate being a broken record...

If this was the resume on your desk would you really want to bring this person to build your program? The Hawks under Mangino were 50-48 overall in 8 seasons. ONLY 3 winning seasons. (don't go crazy about 4 bowls - really? most 6-6 teams get a bowl) Worse, they were 23-41 in conference with ONLY 7 conference road wins (4 during the magical Orange Bowl season). There was ONLY 1 +.500 conference season (again O Bowl season). And finally, 4 conference seasons with 0 conference wins. Just sayin...

John Waszak 5 years, 10 months ago

Ah, Brett, someone who makes sense. Keith, take away the 12-1 season, again more to do with a great OC and DC than MMagino, and you have a 7 year 38-47 record (a worse winning percentage than Mason, 44.7 % for Mark - 46.5% for Glen). Only 16-40 conference. During the Orange Bowl run did not play Oklahoma or Texas and only K-St and Missou were ranked. 16-40 conference! Yes, yes, I know you will say "but the 12-1 season was real and counts." And, you are so right! I still have all my Orange Bowl swag and wear it proudly. But, come on... give it up already with Mangino.

Jack Jones 5 years, 10 months ago

Glad to hear that Coach Mangino is returning to big time D-1 coaching ~ although wish it weren't a Big 12 school. Given the negative progression of D-1 coaches and player's transgressions, his reasons for getting let go by KU, don't seem quite as troubling now. In any case, he deserves (obviously) the chance to coach at a high level again.

As for his coaching at Kansas ~ while, I would have no problem with that ~ a few years down the road, perhaps ~ forgetaboutit ~ ain't going to happen.

Kevin Randell 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't think we are disputing Mangino's record in comparison to previous KU coaches. I think the general sentiment is "why not us"? I think many in the Jayhawk Nation enjoyed the taste of the Orange Bowl season, and naturally want to be competitive enough to have a chance of those seasons again down the road.

Now, I am going to say something that is going to make a lot of people mad. BUT, until we quit being a University divided. You know who you are. The ones who jump on these boards and say "How many days till basketball season?" after our first loss, and actually put the support into the football program as we do our basketball program, we are going to just be spinning our wheels and keep making excuses that we are "a basketball school". Funny....Duke is a basketball school and they made it to a conference championship game AND almost beat Johnny Football. If it can be done there.....it can be done here.

Patrick Leiker 5 years, 10 months ago

As with all other college football coaches, Mangino was only as good as the assistants he had working for him. When KU was good with Mangino, we had excellent assistant coaches. He wasn't as good with lesser assistants.

Mangino's offenses were terrible until his buddy Nick Quartaro stepped down and Ed Warinner came in and installed an offense that was ahead of its time. Our defenses were good under Mangino...until Bill Young stepped down and Mangino decided to let Clint Bowen learn on the job. Our recruiting was great, until Tim Beck left (Beck brought in a lot of good players).

You give him credit for assembling the good coaches, but also realize that he wasn't able to keep restock with similar quality coaches when they left. His last two years, things were on a downward trend and teams around the league were already starting to lap us in terms of building their programs.

I will always appreciate his years at KU, because they were a lot of fun for me. I enjoyed watching him build the program. It is a tough job at KU, especially when he started, before we starting allocating football the substantial resources they have today.

I think it was time for him to go after 2009. That year was a dumpster fire. We went on a 7 game losing streak with some of the best players in program history. He completely blew the Missouri game, a game that we had won, with poor coaching decisions. And most importantly, he lost control of his players, or at least a good number of them.

He'll do well at Iowa State as an OC.

John Waszak 5 years, 10 months ago

You are not serious? Do you actually now what you are talking about? Or, just talking?

Ron Prichard 5 years, 10 months ago

But you have no idea how to analyze any of that info. Thanks for playing, now go back to your own boards and leave the discussion on here to the grownups.

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

The reason Kansas has not performed to expectations has nothing to do with the assistant coaches. It's three other things: 1. Kansas has the toughest schedule in the country, 2. It has the second youngest team in the country, and 3., given one and two, expectations were surely unreasonable from the beginning. Especially with the frenzy that Wiggins caused.

Doug Cramer 5 years, 10 months ago

Biggest mistake KU has ever made was hiring Lew Perkins (makes me sick to my stomach). Second biggest mistake was hiring Zenger. We win 2 games next season.

Scott Morgan 5 years, 10 months ago

I enjoyed watching Mangino build a decent program here. Not a huge fan of KU, I do enjoy watching good coaches build programs. This of course includes Mr. Self. Not from the area, but love to follow local programs with coaches I admire.

Can not say the same for the current head KU football coach now.

  1. In my opinion under Mangino KU's program had the feel of an above average team which could and did rise for a "true" upset or occasional bowl run. It was fun to watch his game day team normally play good fundamental football.

2, Mangino had/has a great ability to see football talent in both high school and JUCO players. Then more importantly bring them into his program. This coupled with coaching 2-3-4 star recruits up made Mangino a great hire at a KU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Duke type school.

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