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Memorial Stadium attendance dipping but not as bad as reported last Saturday

Kansas running back Tony Pierson tears up the sideline on a long carry against Texas Tech during the third quarter on Saturday, Oct. 5, 2013 at Memorial Stadium. Pierson was injured on the play and left the game following. He was later seen on the sidelines in street clothes.

Kansas running back Tony Pierson tears up the sideline on a long carry against Texas Tech during the third quarter on Saturday, Oct. 5, 2013 at Memorial Stadium. Pierson was injured on the play and left the game following. He was later seen on the sidelines in street clothes. by Nick Krug

Just a quick and important update in case you missed it on Monday evening.

The official game book following Saturday's 54-16 loss to Texas Tech at Memorial Stadium, listed the game's attendance as 25,648. Monday, that number officially was changed to 35,648 and a KU spokesperson said a clerical error was the reason for the wrong number being used.

The attendance number provided on Saturday was hand-written and the first digit was misread before the total was entered into the game management system.

Obviously, fixing this hiccup did not change the outcome of the game nor the tough spot the Jayhawks find themselves in currently, but it's important to point out because of the negative connotation that comes with such a poor attendance number. There's a big difference between the idea of playing in a stadium of nearly 40,000 and one that's barely half full.

In many ways, the damage already has been done, as the attendance figures were reported by dozens of media outlets following the game and the low number made its way around message boards, Twitter and into the jokes of rival fans.

If the Jayhawks don't show improvement on the field soon, it's entirely possible that the attendance of future games could be closer to that 25,000 number (if not less) than anyone in the KU athletic department would like. But they're not there yet.

Memorial Stadium has a listed capacity of 50,071 and, in its three home games this season, KU has averaged a crowd of 39,130. The official attendance has dipped by a couple thousand each game, however.

Through the first three home games of the season, the student section has been pretty strong, with last Saturday's loss representing the worst of the three games for student support. For the most part, though, the students have showed up and have stayed to the end.

Last Saturday, hardly anyone stayed to the end and KU coach Charlie Weis said those who did deserved combat pay for suffering through it.

We'll see where things go from here.

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Comments

hawkdds 6 months, 1 week ago

I agree with everything you said , wats 211, but must admit being steamrolled lets the air out of the balloon awfully fast. On the other hand if you can see improvement each week you look forward to the next encounter instead of dreading it.RCJH

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Janet Scott 6 months, 1 week ago

Dipping attendence? Didn't notice (because I wasn't there).

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wats211 6 months, 1 week ago

it is sickening to see all these negative comments.....we need to get behind this team....there are only 6 saturdays a year...it should be an event....who cares how good we are that particular year....embrace the team and in doing so...you are supporting the university....don't leave at halftime...no matter how bad it is...enjoy the experience...leaving early only deflates the players...and they deserve better...quit thinking about yourself and get invested in the team...let them know ...you care and that they are trying their best...and they will get better..leaving early makes you a loser...don't give up on these guys...you spend good money ..don't blame the product on the field..they aren't pros...they are kids who are trying hard....we need fans that try hard also...by staying no matter how bad it is...the good money we spend is for the enjoyment of a college football saturday...get your moneys worth....look for the positives...college football is the best ..be happy with that...

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hawkshot 6 months, 1 week ago

Did my two empty seats count. Had other commitment and couldn't go [Praise the lord]. Couldn't even give the tickets away. My last year as a season ticket holder.

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Jack Jones 6 months, 1 week ago

Suggestion ~ Save your 60 bucks, stay at home, pick up some bottled water/powerades and some nachos at Wal-Mart and then whine at a much lower cost ~~ the other upside is that we don't have bandwagon fans/AKA people like you ~ sitting next to me.

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lawupsman 6 months, 1 week ago

Paid 60 dollars for 4 tickets...4 dollars a piece for 4 bottled water/powerades and 10 bucks for 2 orders of nachos. Sat through 3 quarters of some of the most boring offense I've ever seen (La Tech game). Maybe KU should consider charging prices in closer relation to their play? Might be able to fill the stadium but wouldn't make much money.

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Hammertoe 6 months, 1 week ago

The Legend of Mangino.... He only had one winning season in conference play in 8 years as head coach. The bar is rather low...

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Robert Brown 6 months, 1 week ago

In the era of realignment, football attendance and revenue generation has become more critical.

I guess the good news is that the football program is an untapped source of future revenue if you can get the team to become more competitive. Getting an extra 10,000 people per game adds to the bottom line.

Basketball is tapped out. You can get more people to the game; you can only raise ticket prices.

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Pbbut 6 months, 1 week ago

The game against OU may not be reflective of how KU fans see the program. It's not that far to travel from Norman/OKC/Tulsa and there are a good number of OU fans in the KC area that will "help" the attendance. The real number will be the Baylor crowd, especially if we continue to look like it will be an ugly game.

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CharlieHawk 6 months, 1 week ago

Was the final score accurate?

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Rivethead 6 months, 1 week ago

Ah the old "clerical error" excuse. Those used to happen a lot during the Terry Allen years too.

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gorilla10 6 months, 1 week ago

In the eyes of a college student:

Weak atmosphere, hangover from late night or friday in general, Big12 game (we all know how those end), track around the field still, too early, and just the general fact that as of lately nothing exciting whatsoever has been going on in or around memorial stadium. Now, I'm in the stands every week and stay the entire game but it's easy to understand why these college students (who have little pride in KU football) would want to stick around. I can't stand it, but the only way I see students showing up and filling their section is if we win. Games like Saturday don't help the cause.....

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Stephan123 6 months, 1 week ago

Football as we know it may be a fading fancy as more and more negative repercussions crop up from on field, life long injuries. The only future profits in the sport will be earned by attorneys attached to successful class action, personal injury lawsuits that will decimate the sport as we know it.

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Dickless Head 6 months, 1 week ago

Whoever misread that "3" and entered it as a "2" without double-checking to confrm should be FIRED on the spot.

Anyone with ANY knowledge of Kansas athletics knows that an attendance of 25K is absolutely terrible, even by our standards. To enter that without confirming and/or double-checking to make sure before releasing it to the WHOLE COUNTRY....well that's Turner Gill-type inexcusable. Fire their a$$.

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jay_cheese 6 months, 1 week ago

Talent potential is only half the battle. Look no further than USC for a extremely talented (from the star based recruiting agency's perspective) roster that struggles to win. JUCO's, depending on the situation, can help to fill roster voids but are generally considered a very unsuccessful long term strategy.

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AzHawk97 6 months, 1 week ago

Attendance for the OU game may somewhat be saved by Sooner fans, and the KSU game will still be well attended even if KU football remains in its current state. The more interesting games will be Baylor and WVU. Some could turnout to see the juggernaut that is the Baylor offense, but that Mountaineer game has the potential to be the nadir of Kansas football attendance for recent years.

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Joe Ross 6 months, 1 week ago

Lots of Mangino talk around the boards lately.

I have a theory. It's full of holes, but only because I'm still working it out. Here it is. The mentality at a "football school" is vastly different than one at a "basketball school". Few programs, if any, perform at the highest level in both. That fact alone started me to thinking that the difference in outcome was due to a difference in process, which must be rooted in a difference in ideology. Specifically, I think basketball schools are much more concerned with compliance than football schools. They go for the squeaky clean image. Why? Because you get fewer players, making each one count more. To violate a rule and have one player benched means a lot more than if a single player is ruled ineligible on a football team. Besides that, football generates so much more revenue that the temptation to violate a rule here or there is much greater.

So here we are at a basketball school, having been steeped in the culture of cleanness that is all things Kansas. That mindset consumes the whole of the AD and filters down to other programs, including football. At Kansas we are very concerned with academics, for example. You think Alabama puts that kind of emphasis on books? You'd be crazy to think it. Basically, we are competing with other programs who know how to bend rules here and there to get ahead. You've heard it before: "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'". Mark Mangino came along a few years ago and was willing to get down and dirty, with personality since his hands are tied with violating a code of ethics in other ways (especially recruiting). He had a temper, yes. But he got the utmost out of second-hand recruits by imprinting his personality on their style of play. It took a while to get the program up, granted. But in his second year he was already 6-7 (Im not sure but I think he was 2-and-something his first season).

Now here comes the politically incorrect part. Who gives a damn if a FOOTBALL coach pushes his players around and knocks them to the ground every now and then? I endured worse in junior high for a team that ultimately went on to win State (Atchison Redmen, 4A State title, 1989). Point being there is something about that kind of discipline that you live in fear of, yet you recognize that without it you would not have progressed to the point you have. Football can not be coached without fire. In second-tier programs (and perhaps third tier, in the case of Kansas) you need more of it. When it comes to a drill sergeant mentality of a coach, it's like Christopher Walken said once in a SNL skit, "Trust me, fellas...you're gonna WANT that COWBELL...".

Only at Kansas we don't.

Exit Mangino.

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Jim Jackson 6 months, 1 week ago

I am digressing from the article here but I have noticed quit a few posters bashing Charlie's strategy to recruit the JUCO's.

Does anybody think we have much of a chance with 4 star players if we end up 3-9 this year? Heck, if you look at our current commit list for 2014, we don't have much by way of 3 star commits either.

People love to bring up Talib and Charles Gordon (2 star guys); they were 2 out of approximately 200 players Mangino had suit up in his 8 years as head coach.

We need immediate impact 20, 21 year old guys who can come in right away, not 2 star 18 year olds who will take 3 years to develop and are inferior in ability to our confrence foes.

We have the Jayhawk JUCO conference in our backyard, let's use it.

Worked very well for Mangino and Bill Snyder.

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6 months, 1 week ago

Thanks for the update, Matt. Attendance looked a lot closer to 40K on TV than the reported 25K. You would think someone would have logically caught the error prior to moving forward with the incorrect figure. Oh well. To your point Matt, if the team doesn't start playing better, 25K per game is a strong possibility.

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Robert Brown 6 months, 1 week ago

Matt- Thanks for the update. I was shocked by the attendance number and quite honestly find 35,000 to also be very low for a homecoming game against a conference opponent who we took to overtime last year. This is 4000 less than attended the La Tech game.

Do you have any ideas why the attendance was so low? It sounds like the weather was decent. Going into the game, we were 2-1 and were playing a team we were competitive with last year. I don't think I was in the minority in thinking this could have been a competitive and entertaining game.

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Keith Richards 6 months, 1 week ago

Might want to delay the stadium renovation with attendance dipping. If Charlie Weis can't pull something, anything together soon, next season's attendance and revenue will be disastrous.

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